Re: [maemo-developers] OGG support

2005-11-01 Thread Paul Mundt
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 11:09:34PM +, Tom S. wrote:
> > Concerning the 770 the DSP based solution should improve device
> > performance since the MPU would be left for applications instead of
> > decoding.
> 
> I'm nit picking here, though, generally the arithmetic unit is called an 
> ALU.
> 
The DSP isn't implemented as a simple co-processor, OMAP contains more
than one physical processor in the package. (Including the ARM MPU and
the c55x DSP). MPU in this case refers to Micro-Processing Unit, which
refers to the primary ARM in the OMAP. Anyone even vaguely familiar with
TI and OMAP literature should be aware of this, hopefully this should
clear things up. Calling it ALU-based decoding would be misleading, as
vendors have a tendency to implement barrel shifters in hardware outside
of the scope of the ALU. ;-)
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Re: [maemo-developers] OGG support

2005-11-01 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Martin Grimme wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I have written a little program which can fluently play OGG Vorbis
>files on the device. This shows that OGG support is technically
>possible and, by utilizing the DSP, it could even be implemented more
>efficient. My CPU-only implementation causes about 20% CPU load for
>playing in CD quality.
>
>I'm going to add a little GUI and provide an installer package
>for my OGG player soon.
>
>
>Regards, Martin
>
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I am trying to get a How-To which should describe the multimedia
architecture explained and how to write custom codec and how to
integrate and install them.

could you post your code ???  this could be quite useful or even start a
How-To page on the Wiki

Br,
Devesh

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[maemo-developers] 770 bug!

2005-11-01 Thread Ahmad



Hi,
 
i dont know if this is a bug with the 770 browser 
or something else,
while using my friends nokia 770 device i browsed 
to www.pakmusic.com and tried to log in, 
the browser window
dissappeared unexpectedly, numerous attempts 
resulted in similar results, may be some one can verify this ?
 
-ahmad
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Re: [maemo-developers] 770 bug!

2005-11-01 Thread Zeeshan Ali
On 11/1/05, Ahmad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,

  Hey there!

> i dont know if this is a bug with the 770 browser or something else,
> while using my friends nokia 770 device i browsed to www.pakmusic.com and
> tried to log in, the browser window
> dissappeared unexpectedly, numerous attempts resulted in similar results,
> may be some one can verify this ?

   That sight seems to be one of those 'made for MS windows' 
websites, as it not only crashes my browser (firefox) on this ubuntu
breezy box but the internet radio stream from that website also hangs
my rythmbox. Having said that, this still is a bug but not actually in
the device but the browser-engine.

--
Regards,

Zeeshan Ali
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[maemo-developers] Compiling own kernels and using the wlan module

2005-11-01 Thread Thomas Glanzmann
Hello,
Michael Gernoth and I just managed to compile a new kernel with ipv6
enabled using the wlan module(s) of the new Software version. So here
you go. It is now possible to compile own kernels. :-) We are going to
build a kernel with ipsec, and nfs server and client capabilities and so
on and will shortly publish it with instructions.

Thomas
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Re: [maemo-developers] Compiling own kernels and using the wlan module

2005-11-01 Thread Thomas Glanzmann
Hello,

> Michael Gernoth and I just managed to compile a new kernel with ipv6
> enabled using the wlan module(s) of the new Software version. So here
> you go. It is now possible to compile own kernels. :-) We are going to
> build a kernel with ipsec, and nfs server and client capabilities and so
> on and will shortly publish it with instructions.

the opera version shipped with n770 does supprt IPv6 ... btw.

Thomas
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Re: [maemo-developers] OGG support

2005-11-01 Thread Riku Voipio
On Monday 31 October 2005 14:36, Paul Mundt wrote:
> Some versions of the ARM9 support VFP, which allows for partial hardware
> FP support for some basic single and double precision opcodes, and traps
> for the rest (it however does not offer a IEEE754 compliant interface in
> hardware, and requires quite a bit of help from software to do so). OMAP
> 2420 supports this, OMAP 1710 does not. As such, we presently use
> in-kernel NWFPE.

As I understand, trapping happens if you want the VFP to signal if it's 
results are inaccurate or non-IEEE. The logic appears to be, that for most 
users it is more important to have a fast fpu than high quality math results.  

It would need some more investigating to find out how bad the inaccuracies 
are, and if you can use it as the fpu for off-the-shelf software expecting 
IEEE semantics, or if it's usefullness is limited to code written 
specifically for it. From Debian/Alpha experiences, I would bet for the 
latter. Especially considering that pre-EV6 alpha fpu did not suck - it was 
just not perfectly IEEE compatible..

> This is not necessarily true either, and is one of the bigger reasons for
> pushing EABI. It makes sense to use VFP for what it supports natively,
> most of the rest of it is better left to something like soft-float.
> Kernel FP emulation is slow by definition.

Agreed. Even if VFP turns out to be really fast and usefull, most arm cpu's 
will still be fpuless for a long time from now. 
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Re: [maemo-developers] OGG support

2005-11-01 Thread Martin Grimme
Hello Devesh,

Am Dienstag, den 01.11.2005, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Devesh Kothari:
> I am trying to get a How-To which should describe the multimedia
> architecture explained and how to write custom codec and how to
> integrate and install them.
> 
> could you post your code ???  this could be quite useful or even start a
> How-To page on the Wiki

I am going to post my code soon, once it has been cleaned up a bit.
It's still in a highly experimental state, but now that playback is
fluent, I can get the code in good shape. :)

My program is not a codec but a player on its own, as it was originally
just a proof-of-concept. I'm currently using libao for audio output,
instead of the maemo multimedia architecture.


Regards, Martin


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[maemo-developers] (no subject)

2005-11-01 Thread d
Test
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[maemo-developers] Starting application from task navigator menu won't work

2005-11-01 Thread sami.ronkainen
Hi all,

I created a small helloworld application and created the .deb package
pretty much by copying stuff from Jarkko Oikarinen's Mammasnake package
(by the way, a million thanks to Jarkko for not using autotools - for a
newbie like me the shell script is way, way, WAY easier to understand
than autotools scripts)

Anyway - I manage to install the package to a real N770 device and it
shows under "Extras" in the menu - but selecting it doesn't do anything.
In fact, the only thing that happens that I no longer can start anything
(like file manager or anything under Games etc) from the task bar menu
anymore. Otherwise the device works fine - I can e.g. adjust volume
settings from the top right corner.

Any ideas for what could be wrong? I checked with "ps -aux | grep user"
in XTerm on the device and apparently my application does not even
start, so the problem is likely to be somehow with the installation
package, not the actual application.

As I said, I pretty much copied the package.sh script, the .service
file, the .desktop file, and the control file from the Mammasnake
package by replacing all 'mammasnake' references with the name of my own
application. So the links etc should work fine.

Oh, and I did the whole compile under ARM target and checked (with
'file') that the executable really is an ARM executable.

-Sami-
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[maemo-developers] WLAN problem with FritzBox

2005-11-01 Thread Tim Johann




Hi all,

Lucky me I am one of the nokia770 owners.  I am quite impressed by this
piece of hardware - only I have a real bad problem:

As some others (first
and second),
I have problems connecting to the Internet via my FritzBoxFon WLAN (a
DSLmodem/router).  I.e., after connection to the router the nokia 770
will not send any packets to the router (while obviously receiving
packets).  Pinging the router will not succeed (no packs sent), though
i can ping a notebook connected to the same WLAN.

one lead i have, though, is, that dmesg says
sm_drv_transmit: sm_frame_tx returned error -10


After searching the web for the code in question (obviously part of the
prism wlan drivers, see XH8196--devo--0--patch-10/module/sm_drv.c).

The value -10 is returned by a call to 
prism_softmac_frame_tx()

and seems to be the #define of SM_EDSTUNKN (destination unknown??! See (XH8196--devo--0--patch-10/umac/softmac2.h).

I don't know where i can find the definition of
prism_softmac_frame_tx(), maybe only available as part of the firmware
(in umac/).

has anybody a clue what could be the problem with the connection if
such an error occurs?


   greets,

    t1m


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[maemo-developers] Test

2005-11-01 Thread d

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Re: [maemo-developers] 770 bug!

2005-11-01 Thread Raphael Jacquot

Zeeshan Ali wrote:

On 11/1/05, Ahmad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,



  Hey there!



i dont know if this is a bug with the 770 browser or something else,
while using my friends nokia 770 device i browsed to www.pakmusic.com and
tried to log in, the browser window
dissappeared unexpectedly, numerous attempts resulted in similar results,
may be some one can verify this ?



   That sight seems to be one of those 'made for MS windows' 
websites, as it not only crashes my browser (firefox) on this ubuntu

breezy box but the internet radio stream from that website also hangs
my rythmbox. Having said that, this still is a bug but not actually in
the device but the browser-engine.


It's also a bug in the crappy website, if you ask me...
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[maemo-developers] Maemo 1.1RC5 localisation issues. C instead of en_GB

2005-11-01 Thread Tom Rathbone
Hi,

Just upgraded to 1.1 and all menu entries, buttons and dialogs seem to
be showing their C string values rather than their locale versions.  I
have LANG and LANGUAGE set to en_GB.  Am I missing something?

Tom.
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RE: [maemo-developers] Maemo 1.1RC5 localisation issues. C instead ofen_GB

2005-11-01 Thread Peter.Hagg
Hi, 

this is a known issue in 1.1 rc5. Please see bugzilla bug #58, comment #12 for 
a workaround [1].

Regards, 

- Pete -

[1] https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58#c12


-Original Message-
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To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: [maemo-developers] Maemo 1.1RC5 localisation issues. C instead ofen_GB
 
Hi,

Just upgraded to 1.1 and all menu entries, buttons and dialogs seem to
be showing their C string values rather than their locale versions.  I
have LANG and LANGUAGE set to en_GB.  Am I missing something?

Tom.
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Re: [maemo-developers] Starting application from task navigator menuwon't work

2005-11-01 Thread Devesh Kothari
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I created a small helloworld application and created the .deb package
>pretty much by copying stuff from Jarkko Oikarinen's Mammasnake package
>(by the way, a million thanks to Jarkko for not using autotools - for a
>newbie like me the shell script is way, way, WAY easier to understand
>than autotools scripts)
>
>Anyway - I manage to install the package to a real N770 device and it
>shows under "Extras" in the menu - but selecting it doesn't do anything.
>In fact, the only thing that happens that I no longer can start anything
>(like file manager or anything under Games etc) from the task bar menu
>anymore. Otherwise the device works fine - I can e.g. adjust volume
>settings from the top right corner.
>
>Any ideas for what could be wrong? I checked with "ps -aux | grep user"
>in XTerm on the device and apparently my application does not even
>start, so the problem is likely to be somehow with the installation
>package, not the actual application.
>
>As I said, I pretty much copied the package.sh script, the .service
>file, the .desktop file, and the control file from the Mammasnake
>package by replacing all 'mammasnake' references with the name of my own
>application. So the links etc should work fine.
>
>  
>
be careful with the .desktop file as it contains the Exec="xxx"
where xxx is the executable to launch.

check that it contains the right executable i.e your executable

>Oh, and I did the whole compile under ARM target and checked (with
>'file') that the executable really is an ARM executable.
>
>   -Sami-
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