Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?

2006-10-27 Thread Michael Kostrzewa
You might want to keep the X layer and replace everything above (gtk,
hildon, desktop) with other components. Perhaps the biggest challange
is getting tablet-specific input methods to support those components. 

MDK

On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 08:44:48AM +0300, ext Tapani P?lli wrote:
 ext Ng, Cheon-woei wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I am new to Maemo and Linux programming in general.  I have scanned
  through the archived developer mailing list but I did not see similar
  subject.  
 
  I am wondering if I could adjust Maemo to boot to a different look like
  the picture link below:
 
  http://news.yahoo.com/photo/061026/480/f26319e8ffdb4d90b1c5b50cc077bc13#
 
 
  How difficult would it be to adjust Maemo to boot to a blank screen that
  filled with just application's icon buttons?  Would it involve source
  code adjustment?  Would booting to an application like a web browser
  with buttons solves my problem?  Or may be I should not even use Maemo?
 

 
 Not that difficult. All you need is to modify the bootup scripts to
 start only what's needed (check scripts in /etc/osso-af-init directory)
 and make your own program that shows the icons. No source code changes
 should be needed, just editing the shellscripts. I think there might
 come some problems of not having maemo-af-desktop there but they are all
 solvable.
 
  Thanks in advance for any pointers/suggestions.  
 
  Sincerely,
  Cheon-Woei Ng  
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: usb mouse

2006-10-27 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:17:22PM -0400, ext Bob Herrmann wrote:
 Ok, so If I change the cursor to be visible, does the 770 work with any 
 usb mouse?   Or is there a configuration change I need to make to the X 
 server?

Unfortunately it needs non-trivial configuration changes to the X
server.  In IT2005/2006, this actually requires _code_ changes (sorry,
not my fault).  But this has been rectified, and future relase etc.

 This is for the use case I'm traveling and have 3 hours to tinker in a 
 hotel and want to use a travel mouse and keyboard to hack a python/ruby 
 ditty to tabulate my expenses - which is a pretty hard sell to anyone 
 other than the developer crowd.  

Understood.  My ADSL line was down for a good fortnight, and all I had
was that and a Bluetooth keyboard.  'Twas good fun.

Cheers,
Daniel
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Avoiding loopback local IP address mode in WIFI connections using Internet Tablet OS 2006

2006-10-27 Thread Sebastian Spaeth

Patrik Flykt wrote:

Yes, it is supposed to do that. As tcpdump shows, requests are sent but
no replies are heard. Does anyone know where the Powerbook might store
its DHCP server log files?


No clue and a quick search did not provide any info. Sorry I can't help 
here.



Is the Powerbook the one setting up the WLAN network or is there an AP
in between? If the Powerbook created the WLAN, does it run in ad-hoc or
managed (access point) mode (e.g. the WLAN icon in the 770 is set
according to the WLAN mode)?


The Powerbook is setting up the WLAN (via Internet sharing-ON), no AP 
involved here. It does not create an ad-hoc mode WLAN but provides an AP 
that others connect to in managed mode.


HTH, good luck, let me know if you need some more testing.
Sebastian
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Re: [maemo-developers] Remote debugger

2006-10-27 Thread Lionel Besson

Hi,

you can use gdbserver and the laika eclipse plugin for remote debugging

Lionel

On 26/10/06, Malix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, did a remote debugging facilities is available for Nokia 770.
If not is this planned?


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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: usb mouse (aiding laptop replacement)

2006-10-27 Thread Bob Herrmann

Daniel Stone wrote:

On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 06:25:39AM -0500, ext Larry Battraw wrote:
  

On 10/27/06, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:17:22PM -0400, ext Bob Herrmann wrote:
  

Ok, so If I change the cursor to be visible, does the 770 work with any
usb mouse?   Or is there a configuration change I need to make to the X
server?


Unfortunately it needs non-trivial configuration changes to the X
server.  In IT2005/2006, this actually requires _code_ changes (sorry,
not my fault).  But this has been rectified, and future relase etc.
  

Any idea if this will hit Sardine soon, or is Carlos a better person to ask?



I don't have any immediate plans, sorry.  I'll let the list know if it's
planned to hit Sardine, since it's a pretty major change.
  


I recently noticed that I'm not the only to use the 770 in place of a 
laptop.  


   http://blog.russnelson.com/images/kif_4011.jpg

At conferences it can be handy to use as a laptop replacement.Also 
when on vacation, it is useful to move photos off a digital camera and 
up to an Internet site.   For these medium length tasks a mouse/keyboard 
is more productive (along with something to lift the 770 up to eye 
level, but thats a relatively simple problem to solve. )


Cheers
-bob


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RE: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?

2006-10-27 Thread Ng, Cheon-woei
Thanks for all the suggestions.  Yesterday, I was working on exactly what 
Tapani suggested.  I am glad that I am going to the right direction.  

I adjusted the bootup script yesterday and was able to boot to any program I 
want.  Now I will try making my own program that shows the icons.  

There is one issue that I encountered without the maemo-af-desktop.  For 
example, once I minimized a program, I could not get the program back anymore 
without restart af-sb-init.sh.  I may have to make all programs not minimized 
able and only exit able.   

I might also follow Michael's suggestion as an alternative solution if I am 
stuck.  

Thanks again!

Woei

-Original Message-
From: Michael Kostrzewa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:23 AM
To: ext Tapani Pälli
Cc: Ng, Cheon-woei; maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?

You might want to keep the X layer and replace everything above (gtk,
hildon, desktop) with other components. Perhaps the biggest challange
is getting tablet-specific input methods to support those components. 

MDK

On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 08:44:48AM +0300, ext Tapani Pälli wrote:
 ext Ng, Cheon-woei wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I am new to Maemo and Linux programming in general.  I have scanned
  through the archived developer mailing list but I did not see similar
  subject.  
 
  I am wondering if I could adjust Maemo to boot to a different look like
  the picture link below:
 
  http://news.yahoo.com/photo/061026/480/f26319e8ffdb4d90b1c5b50cc077bc13#
 
 
  How difficult would it be to adjust Maemo to boot to a blank screen that
  filled with just application's icon buttons?  Would it involve source
  code adjustment?  Would booting to an application like a web browser
  with buttons solves my problem?  Or may be I should not even use Maemo?
 

 
 Not that difficult. All you need is to modify the bootup scripts to
 start only what's needed (check scripts in /etc/osso-af-init directory)
 and make your own program that shows the icons. No source code changes
 should be needed, just editing the shellscripts. I think there might
 come some problems of not having maemo-af-desktop there but they are all
 solvable.
 
  Thanks in advance for any pointers/suggestions.  
 
  Sincerely,
  Cheon-Woei Ng  
  ___
  maemo-developers mailing list
  maemo-developers@maemo.org
  https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
 

 
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[maemo-developers] Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 18, Issue 43

2006-10-27 Thread paolo delbene
today i was in the underground, i was working with nokia 770 and doing a little more pression lcd gone broken.

now i can't use more, i go searching the display of nokia 770, if anyone can help me, 

awaiting your reply,

paolo del bene
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