Re: [maemo-developers] SDHC Flash Support...

2007-01-20 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:05:45PM -0900, John P. Mitchell wrote:
 Any motion on SDHC Flash Support? I hope it is on someone's radar
 someplace.

http://intr.overt.org/blog/?p=42

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Re: [maemo-developers] Questions aftering flashing n800...where is opera?

2007-01-20 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 03:19:34PM -0800, Mike Klein wrote:
 Can I still use SDK to build/test/deploy apps without developer rootfs?

Absolutely.

 What features specifically do I get with developer rootfs...low level
 kernel control?

I'm not entirely sure.  I think you used to get sbrsh CPU transparency
support and NFS support, but I heard something about those not working
any more in recent devfs images.

QEMU CPU emulation is enough for building packages on your desktop, and
it does not need the developer rootfs on your 770.

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[maemo-developers] Re: Contacts Application...

2007-01-20 Thread Ross Burton
On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 14:14 -0900, John P. Mitchell wrote:
 Anyone know how/if custom fields can be added to the contacts app? I
 wish to store comments/birthdays/physical addresses as well as the defaults.

It's can't.

One solution would be to install Contacts
(http://projects.o-hand.com/contacts) which uses the same backend.  This
way you can use your addressbook in Contacts and set addresses,
comments, etc, and still have it automatically sync with remote rosters,
usable in chat/voip, etc.

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[maemo-developers] Pressing two hardware buttons at the same time: possible to detect?

2007-01-20 Thread Detlef Schmicker
Hello,

I tried to use the plus-hardware button together with cursor up
(GDK_Up).

I wanted to hold plus button while pressing GDK_Up.

In this case, I only receive the key_press for plus_button.

It seems, that while one button is pressed, no other press event
is
send.

Is this correct, or is there a way, I can detect a second key
pressed,
while one key is holded down.

Thanks a lot,

Detlef




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Re: [maemo-developers] Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?

2007-01-20 Thread Antonio Gomes

Yes it can. Some needed jobs to get epiphany ported :

* mozilla engine would require some changes/optimizations to build/run on armel.
ps: making it fast in a suitable end-user way requires even more hackings.
* epiphany currently is so  tied to gnome that such port would also
require lots dependencies to be removed from the source base, and some
features to be commented out, so on ...
* a hildonized ui - the easiest part

... a good project, anyways

On 1/19/07, Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Out of curiosity, I will love to know if Epiphany can be ported to
Maemo platform for Nokia 770  N800 devices. I certainly don't wanna miss
my favorite browser on N800.

http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/

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[maemo-developers] Network connection in the mameo SDK

2007-01-20 Thread David

Hi
I'm writting python scripts which need access to internet.
But the urlretrieve function fails :
Temporary failure in name resolution

The scripts works fine on the my PC and on the n800.

On the wiki, I read this :
For you to be able to do this when developing on the i386 rootstrap you 
need to do apt-get install osso-ic-oss to have the connectivity script 
included in the target.


The package osso-ic-oss does not exist.
The package osso-ic exists.
So, I tried to install it :

[sbox-SDK_X86: ~/python]  apt-get install osso-ic
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 osso-ic
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/57.1kB of archives.
After unpacking 266kB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously deselected package osso-ic.
(Reading database ... 14865 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking osso-ic (from .../pool/osso-ic_1.1.22_i386.deb) ...
Setting up osso-wlan (1.1.12) ...
update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/wlancond exists during rc.d purge (continuing)
Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/wlancond ...
  /etc/rc0.d/K20wlancond
  /etc/rc1.d/K20wlancond
  /etc/rc2.d/S30wlancond
  /etc/rc3.d/S30wlancond
  /etc/rc4.d/S30wlancond
  /etc/rc5.d/K20wlancond
  /etc/rc6.d/K20wlancond
Starting WLAN Connection Daemon: dsmesock_connect: No such file or directory
invoke-rc.d: initscript wlancond, action start failed.
dpkg: error processing osso-wlan (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of osso-ic:
osso-ic depends on osso-wlan (= 1.1.12); however:
 Package osso-wlan is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing osso-ic (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
osso-wlan
osso-ic
E: Sub-process /scratchbox/devkits/debian/bin/dpkg returned an error 
code (1)


The wiki seems to not be up to date...
How to get network in the SDK environnement ?

Thanks.

David.
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Re: [maemo-developers] Network connection in the mameo SDK

2007-01-20 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:18:24PM +0100, David wrote:
 I'm writting python scripts which need access to internet.
 But the urlretrieve function fails :
 Temporary failure in name resolution
 
 The scripts works fine on the my PC and on the n800.
...
 How to get network in the SDK environnement ?

Fix the /etc/resolv.conf file inside scratchbox.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Python for Maemo -- new version released

2007-01-20 Thread Igor Tkach

Osvaldo,
the problem was indeed python2.5 2.5.0-1osso6 I got from mistral
repository. After changing repository to 'scirocco' I got 0.4-3
version of python2.5-runtime instead of 0.4-2, and that fixed it.

Now SDict Viewer seems to run fine on 2.5, except of one thing:

gtk.set_application_name() is no longer there, I had to remove the
line from the source code that used it, and now the app comes with
incorrect title (defaults to the name of the executable file).

gtk.set_application_name() was a problem before too: it was never
documented and was not present in scratchbox version of runtime, but
worked on the actual device...

On 1/19/07, Osvaldo Santana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 1/19/07, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 After removing python 2.4, libpang problem has disappeared!

 I have now:
 python2.5 2.5.0-1osso6


This package has a bug with the module traceback (missing).

Are you sure that you have added the *scirocco* or *bora* repository?
I think that the 1osso6 package is in *mistral* repository.

Thanks,
Osvaldo

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Re: [maemo-developers] Questions aftering flashing n800...where is opera?

2007-01-20 Thread Mike Klein
Marius Gedminas wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 03:19:34PM -0800, Mike Klein wrote:
   
 Can I still use SDK to build/test/deploy apps without developer rootfs?
 

 Absolutely.

   
 What features specifically do I get with developer rootfs...low level
 kernel control?
 

   
One thing about dev rootfs is it flashes correct libraries on N800
(libbluetooth, etc.) so you can download Python runtime, etc. I'm not
sure how to solve these deps without dev rootfs.


 I'm not entirely sure.  I think you used to get sbrsh CPU transparency
 support and NFS support, but I heard something about those not working
 any more in recent devfs images.

 QEMU CPU emulation is enough for building packages on your desktop, and
 it does not need the developer rootfs on your 770.

 Marius Gedminas
   
 

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[maemo-developers] Python2.5 in maemo 3.0 SDK

2007-01-20 Thread David

Hi
The first time I installed the SDK with python2.5, all works fine.

But after a problem with some deb packages, I install the SDK one more 
time ( Yes, It is not a solution)


Now, I can't import gtk module :

[sbox-SDK_X86: /]  python2.5
Python 2.5 (r25:9103, Jan 15 2007, 16:50:56)
[GCC 3.4.4 (release) (CodeSourcery ARM 2005q3-2)] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import gtk
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File stdin, line 1, in module
 File 
debian/python2.5-gtk2/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init 
__.py, line 83, in module
 File 
debian/python2.5-gtk2/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init 
__.py, line 70, in _init

NameError: global name '_gtk' is not defined

google don't help me :-(

Any suggestion ?

Thanks.

David.
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Re: [maemo-developers] Improving Cairo performance on the N800

2007-01-20 Thread Daniel Amelang

(resending this now that the mailing list is back up)

On 1/16/07, Fernando Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

El mar, 16-01-2007 a las 12:20 +0200, ext Daniel Stone escribió:
 We don't currently use the MBX block at all: there's no driver or
 anything to hook into.

There was a linux driver for PowerVR from Imagination Technologies for
2.4 kernels, but I think is not open source :(


Yea, it's not. While I was in the Linux driver section of the PowerVR
website, I also saw this:

We have currently no plans of providing drivers supporting updated kernels.

Where updated kernels refers to  2.4. Ouch. Too bad there isn't a
large enough developer community to make an open-source driver
feasible.

Maybe if Nokia pressured TI who then pressured PowerVR...I know, I
know, not gonna happen.

Dan Amelang
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Re: [maemo-developers] Improving Cairo performance on the N800

2007-01-20 Thread Daniel Amelang

(resending this now that the mailing list is back up)

On 1/16/07, Zeeshan Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello!

 Now, the recently announced Nokia N800 is different from the 770 in
 various ways that are interesting for Cairo performance. I've got my
 eye on the ARMv6 SIMD instructions and the PowerVR MBX accelerator.

   Yeah! me too. The combined power of these two can make it possible
to optimize a lot of nice free software out there for the N800 device.
 However! while former is fully documented and the documentation is
available for general public, it doesn't have a lot to offer. ARMv6
SIMD only operate on 32-bit words and hence i find it unlikely that it
can be used to optimize double fp emulation in contrast to the intel
wirelesss MMX, which provides a big bunch of 128-bit (CORRECTME: or
was it 64- bit?) SIMD instructions. OTOH, these few SIMD instructions
can still be used to optimize a lot of code but would it be a good
idea for cairo if you need to convert the operand values to ints and
the result(s) back to float?


No int - float conversion necessary. At this level, cairo uses ints
exclusively. To clarify, the part of cairo I'm thinking could use the
ARM SIMD is the pixman library which is almost an exact client-side
mirror (copy, really) of the fb section of the X server. It's the part
that implements the Porter-Duff operators in software. Floats are long
out of the picture at this point.

This misunderstanding is common due to wide-spread confusion regarding
what role floating-point plays in cairo's internals. Most floats that
arrive via an API call are converted into an integer type (e.g.
fixed-point) early on. Cairo uses integer arithmetic for most of its
internal computation. With that clarification, it should be no
surprise that much of the recent FP optimizations in cairo was just a
matter of speeding up conversions from floating point to an integer
type.

Anyway, I think the 32-bit ARM SIMD could possibly get us some speedup
similar to how the existing MMX/SSE code has helped for x86 (for the
curious ones, see fbmmx.c in cairo or xserver). And since the MMX/SSE
code hasn't needed to drop down to raw assembly for to get a nice
speedup (it uses intrinsics), your ARM SIMD intrinsics code is much
appreciated.

Dan Amelang
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[maemo-developers] Re: Suggesting applications: Revelation - password manager Pan - NNTP client

2007-01-20 Thread Anuj Verma (Kevin)
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:57:31 +0100, klaus wrote:

 Well, I think both will be worth porting them, but I would prefer Pan.
 
 -Klaus

I am glad for your follow up, Just to share across, below is a snip of
response from, Erik Grinaker to my curious query on revelation-list. I
will be looking forward to see how can we finally have Revelation working
on N800.

--snip--
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 17:52 +0530, Anuj Verma (Kevin) wrote:
 This is just to know if there is any work in progress or planing for a
 Revelation port to Nokia 770  N800 devices ?
 
 Please refer:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_770_Internet_Tablet
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800

Not really, no - but it should run on anything that can run Python and
GNOME.


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