Re: [maemo-developers] cx3110x source code is for the nokia800?

2007-02-01 Thread Partanen Jukka.T (Nokia-M/Helsinki)

Hi,

On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:34, ext Komal Shah wrote:

Well, what I have understood is, Nokia has internally developed the
code for that wireless driver, which does many things including
loading that binary blob from "cx3110x" chip guys.  This time
communication goes through SPI in case of N800.



> because
> of chip manufacturer and many other things.

Where "chip manufacturer and many other things" read "complete and  
utter bullshit"




Well, you are free to interpret as you like, until we get some inputs
from Nokia and its original developers. I hope you know that why
openmoko doesn't include wi-fi option, isn't it?


We are in the process of cleaning up the GPL part of the driver (i.e.  
the cx3110x module) and will make it available ASAP. We'll release  
the 770 version corresponding to the latest ITOS2006 version first  
and then the N800 version. Due to license restrictions we cannot make  
all of it available (i.e. the umac module and the firmware) and I  
know it's been long overdue, but please bear with us.


Best regards,
Jukka



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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-01 Thread sebastian maemo

Please Jon, expand it a bit, por favor. I've just bricked my device and
reflahed it again trying to symlink "anyway I need".

Maybe it's not a question for developers-list, but Nokia didn't thought that
128M wouldn't suffice me enough to install all apps I'd like for my device.

When I bought N80 phone, I found a very useful and logic feature: when you
install a new app, the application manager asks you whether you want it
installed over your tiny phone memory, or over your large GB memory card.

For don't-know-what-reason Nokia failed to make this feature available on
his 770. They just let me create a 64M swap file that helps, but not that
much.

So here I am, trying to make things work. I've learned how to create
partitions with sfdisk (not so friendly as fdisk), format them with
mkfs.ext2 (that was easy), and mount and unmount them at startup and
shutdown via init.d scripts (that was the worst one).

And now that I've learned all that much, I created the wrong symlinks: I
cp'ed /usr to the MMC, and then made the wrong link: ln -s /media/mmc2/usr
/usr. Yes, now I know it should be the reverse way, but do not understand
why.

My device is just now reflashed. Before reflashing it again and again, could
somebody tell me what should I do right now, before installing any apps,
what to do to be able to install them on the MMC instead of on the 770's
internal memory.

Does anybody know what I'm talking about? Am I the first guy who dares such
a naive question? Don't you get pretty soon the no-more-free-memory
advertisement after installing octave and abiword? Wouldn't you like to
install anything you like and more?

Why should it be so difficult?

Salut.
Sebas.

2007/2/2, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


If you don't have to have files that are larger than a single volume,


you can just use a symlink to logically merge them any way you want.


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RE: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-01 Thread quim.gil
Do you like the this idea, then?

- platform (current maemo-developers)
- applications (new list)
- power users (current maemo-users)

Pure end users are currently out of our scope, although we wouldn't stop
them in the power users list if they find it and are brave to ask.
Otherwise there is InternetTabletTalk today, let's see if other
interactive spaces around the Nokia's Internet Tablets are created.

>The ruleset might be, then:
>- If what you're trying to do involves the platform, it's 
>maemo-developers@
>- If what you're trying to do involves scratchbox, it's maemo-appdev@
>- If what you're trying to do involves hacks on the device 
>(such as using xterm), it's maemo-users@
>- Otherwise, it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-01 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/1/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jon Smirl wrote:
> The ability already exists in Linux. You need to turn on device mapper
> in your kernel and then use LVM2 or  EVMS.
>

Great! :) Unfortunately that's way over my head :)

When you say "turn on" device mapper in the kernel, do you mean compile the 
kernel with device mapper enabled (or can it already be turned on somehow)? And is LVM2 
or EVMS already available on the N800? And just what is device mapper?


My N800 isn't here yet. But you will probably need to build a new
kernel and turn on the config for device mapper. Or just look at the
modules on your current system, I think it is called dm.ko, it may
already be there. I haven't noticed any one building LVM2 or EVMS for
the Nokia.

Once you merge the cards with device mapper you will always have to
use them together. They will be useless individually.

Most people won't bother with all this work and limitations and just
buy 2GB or 4GB cards.

If you don't have to have files that are larger than a single volume,
you can just use a symlink to logically merge them any way you want.

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[maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-01 Thread Neil MacLeod

Jon Smirl wrote:

The ability already exists in Linux. You need to turn on device mapper
in your kernel and then use LVM2 or  EVMS.



Great! :) Unfortunately that's way over my head :)

When you say "turn on" device mapper in the kernel, do you mean compile the 
kernel with device mapper enabled (or can it already be turned on somehow)? And is LVM2 
or EVMS already available on the N800? And just what is device mapper?

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Re: [maemo-developers] Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-01 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/1/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This may be a crazy idea, but what possibilities exist to span a single 
filesystem across the two SD cards, thus presenting a single filesystem to the 
N800?

I can imagine one day wanting to put a 500Mb media file onto the N800, and 
having 300Mb free on each SD card would mean the N800 doesn't have enough 
contiguous space to store the file.

Would it be possible to mount partitions on the SD-card in such a way that the 
N800 could make the space available as one single filesystem partition?


The ability already exists in Linux. You need to turn on device mapper
in your kernel and then use LVM2 or  EVMS.

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[maemo-developers] Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-01 Thread Neil MacLeod

This may be a crazy idea, but what possibilities exist to span a single 
filesystem across the two SD cards, thus presenting a single filesystem to the 
N800?

I can imagine one day wanting to put a 500Mb media file onto the N800, and 
having 300Mb free on each SD card would mean the N800 doesn't have enough 
contiguous space to store the file.

Would it be possible to mount partitions on the SD-card in such a way that the 
N800 could make the space available as one single filesystem partition?

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Re: [maemo-developers] Fake IAP connection or how to use local web applications

2007-02-01 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri

On 2/1/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 03:22:11PM +0100, william maddler wrote:
> Marius Gedminas wrote:
> >
> > Write an alternative configuration tool that doesn't require networking.
> >
> > You do store configuration values in gconf, right?
>
> Yep, the point is that looks like Dummy is not accepted as connection
> type. So you are supposed to enable wi-fi if you wish to connect to
> 127.0.0.1.

Which is why I suggested writing a configuration tool that does not try
to connect to 127.0.0.1. ;)


Ouch, this is insane... in order to support at least MacOSX, Windows
and Linux (Qt and Gtk) you need 4 different GUI toolkits, if you want
to support 3 platforms (PPC, x86, ARM) you need 4 x 3 = 12  binaries
to test. Ok, you could have python or other platform independent core,
but GUI would still be the same trouble, so 4 binaries to test.

And all of this is local access.. but how to let you configure
770/n800 from PC? plug usb and you loose mmc, wifi would still require
a daemon...

As willian said, the problem still remain... we're fixing the problem
in the wrong area.

Maemo is broken: it traps "socket()" calls instead of "connect()", why?

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Re: [maemo-developers] QT4 devkit for maemo

2007-02-01 Thread George Farris
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 15:09 -0500, Amy Sockanathan wrote:
> Has anyone created a /scratcbox/devkit for QT4? I need to install qt4
> for building my application which needs qt4. If anyone already has
> made one I could just reuse it.

Are you building this strictly for the 770/N800?  If so then please
consider using the existing framework otherwise you use valuable memory
resources by having additional libraries loaded.  Lets try to avoid
having all manor of libraries in small devices like this.


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Re: [maemo-developers] cx3110x source code is for the nokia800?

2007-02-01 Thread marvin

Hi,

Le Wednesday 31 January 2007 06:19, Komal Shah a écrit :
> On 1/30/07, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is the cx3110x source code is for the nokia800 available somewhere?
>
> I don't think that it is available. It is binary only module because
> of chip manufacturer and many other things. Samuel Ortiz is better
> person to answer this.

did someone tried the softmac driver (for N770) from 
http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/data/code/debs/ allready? I remember a 
posting some month ago, but I don't know the subject anymore.

Greetings

Marvin
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RE: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-01 Thread Michael P. Lococo
> - Maemo is a community of developers, if end users end up here is
> because they don't have another mailing list where to get support. Nokia
> is not providing that space nowadays. The InternetTabletTalk web forum
> is doing a great work in this sense, though. We need to decide what we
> want to do with the end users among us as well. Until now we are getting
> mostly power users, who anyway enjoy discussing near to developers. But
> as the Internet Tablets are sold, more pure users are joining this
> community and surely many of them will want basic support and only basic
> support. What is the approach of the maemo community towards them?

In spite of its original intent, maemo-users has become the area for this
kind of thing and should be allowed to continue in that role.  Providing a
proper place for "regular folks" interested in learning more about maemo
to congregate encourages them to go through their early learning curve off
the weightier lists and provides a growth path for them to be able to
contribute at a higher level.

The ITT forums do that to a certain extent, but the mailing list format
does a better job of encouraging sustained lurking and listening, even
when you're not posting your own problems.

Thanks,
Mike

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[maemo-developers] Webshortcut home applet released under the LGPL

2007-02-01 Thread Johan Bilien
Today we released the webshortcut home applet for the Hildon Desktop
under the LGPL.

Sources are available at
https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/hildon-home-webshortcut/

It gives an example of how to use the new Hildon Desktop GTypeModule
based API Lucas recently announced. But keep in mind that the API and
implementations are still under heavy development and are still likely
to change a lot!

BR,
Johan.

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[maemo-developers] QT4 for maemo

2007-02-01 Thread Amy Sockanathan

Has anyone built QT4 for maemo. I am building an application that
requires QT4 and would like to know if anyone has the QT4 for maemo.

Thanks
- Amy
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Re: [maemo-developers] QT4 devkit for maemo

2007-02-01 Thread Amy Sockanathan

Has anyone created a /scratcbox/devkit for QT4? I need to install qt4
for building my application which needs qt4. If anyone already has
made one I could just reuse it.

Thanks
- Amy
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Re: [maemo-developers] n800 LED interface

2007-02-01 Thread Larry Battraw

On 2/1/07, Amit Kucheria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   My question is this: for the default trigger source (timer), is the
> blinking just a hardware PWM built into the CPU or is the CPU involved
> in counting timer interrupts to handle on/off periods and toggling the
> LED?  I ask because there was some discussion on ITT about how someone

Unfortunately, the CPU is involved because the built in PWM prevents the
CPU from sleeping and there is not a lot we can do about it. So the SW
solution wakes up device with a period "delay_on".

> had their n800 run down overnight with the LED left on.  It seemed
> unlikely but I wanted to make sure a bunch of CPU cycles weren't being
> burned to run it.

That is why they are disabled by default.

Regards,
Amit


 So would it be accurate to say using the blinking functionality goes
through the following steps?

CPU sets timer to interrupt after delay_off period
timer interrupt occurs
CPU sets hardware PWM/LED to specified brightness
CPU sets timer to interrupt after delay_on period
timer interrupt occurs
CPU turns off hardware PWM/LED
repeat ->

 I'm trying to determine what's consuming the power.  If what I've
described above is accurate, then it sounds like the CPU can't sleep
during the ON portion of the cycle due to hardware PWM for brightness
control.

Thanks-
Larry
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RE: [maemo-developers] libcst sources?

2007-02-01 Thread Alutoin Mikko
Hello Jakub and all,

Thanks for the clarification. I am really after the low level routines, not the 
GUI. I could not find the sources in the repositories, even though the header 
file (cst.h) states that the library is released by Nokia under LGPL. Can 
anyone help, please?

Cheers,

Mikko


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 2/1/2007 3:43 PM
To: Alutoin Mikko; maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: RE: [maemo-developers] libcst sources?
 
Hi,
 
Let me create a bit of confusion here ;)
 
There are tutorials here:
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/certman.html
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/certman-api.html
 
but those are *not* for the certificate manager (I know, thats not what
the web pages say, but trust me). Those are for the libcst, which is a
low-level library that interfaces the certificate database, not the
certificate manager. 
 
Libcst should be available somewhere (at least in Bora's repository).
The real certificate manager is close-sourced yet we have the -dev
package with headers available in Bora's repository (AFAIK).
 
Br,
 
--jakub
 
 




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Sent: 01 February, 2007 14:33
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: [maemo-developers] libcst sources?



Hello all,

Where can I download the sources of libcst, please?

Cheers,

Mikko



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Re: [maemo-developers] libcst sources?

2007-02-01 Thread Jari Tenhunen
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 03:43:56PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Let me create a bit of confusion here ;)
>  
> There are tutorials here:
> http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/certman.html
> http://maemo.org/platform/docs/certman-api.html
>  
> but those are *not* for the certificate manager (I know, thats not what
> the web pages say, but trust me). Those are for the libcst, which is a
> low-level library that interfaces the certificate database, not the
> certificate manager. 
>  
> Libcst should be available somewhere (at least in Bora's repository).
> The real certificate manager is close-sourced yet we have the -dev
> package with headers available in Bora's repository (AFAIK).

To cause even more confusion, the source package for libcst seems be ...
`certman' (as `apt-get source libcst' would've told you):

http://repository.maemo.org/pool/bora/free/source/certman_1.7.9.tar.gz


Cheers,
Jari

>  
> Br,
>  
> --jakub
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Alutoin
> Mikko
>   Sent: 01 February, 2007 14:33
>   To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
>   Subject: [maemo-developers] libcst sources?
>   
>   
> 
>   Hello all,
>   
>   Where can I download the sources of libcst, please?
>   
>   Cheers,
>   
>   Mikko
>   
> 

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Re: [maemo-developers] Creating themes for Maemo

2007-02-01 Thread Michael Dominic Kostrzewa
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:29:02PM +0200, ext Michael Dominic Kostrzewa wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 07:18:01PM +0200, Salminen Karoliina.T 
> (Nokia-M/Helsinki) wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > >1) Install the hildon-theme-tools
> > >2) Install the hildon-theme-layout-3 (that's the bora layout)
> > >3) Copy the hlidon-theme-plankton-3 to your own dir, replace 
> > >some names 
> > >   in configure.ac (they're documented in the file)
> > >4) Replace the template.png with your own. 
> > 
> > Well, I tried to modify the plankton theme.
> > I tried to compile the package, but the new plankton theme depends on
> > hildon-theme-layout-4.
> > I didn't find it from the repositories.
> > 
> > I have both bora and sardine repositories in my scratchbox's
> > sources.list.
> > Where can I find hildon-theme-layout-4?
> > 
> > Best Wishes,
> > Karoliina

Actually, to be more precise. Hildon-theme-plankton 3.x.y depends on
hildon-theme-layout-3 (both in sardine unstable). hildon-theme-plankton 4.x.y
depends on hildon-theme-layout-4 (both in sardine experimental).

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> 
> Hey, 
> 
> there have been some changes recently. I'm forwarding you an explanatory
> e-mali in another thread.
> 
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Re: [maemo-developers] Fake IAP connection or how to use local web applications

2007-02-01 Thread william maddler
Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 03:22:11PM +0100, william maddler wrote:
>> Marius Gedminas wrote:
>>> Write an alternative configuration tool that doesn't require networking.
>>>
>>> You do store configuration values in gconf, right?
>> Yep, the point is that looks like Dummy is not accepted as connection
>> type. So you are supposed to enable wi-fi if you wish to connect to
>> 127.0.0.1.
> 
> Which is why I suggested writing a configuration tool that does not try
> to connect to 127.0.0.1. ;)

That would be a solution for Canola (beside that means to write a new
application as well, instead of using browser), but the problem would
still exist for other applications/needings. IMHO


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Re: [maemo-developers] Fake IAP connection or how to use local web applications

2007-02-01 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 03:22:11PM +0100, william maddler wrote:
> Marius Gedminas wrote:
> > 
> > Write an alternative configuration tool that doesn't require networking.
> > 
> > You do store configuration values in gconf, right?
> 
> Yep, the point is that looks like Dummy is not accepted as connection
> type. So you are supposed to enable wi-fi if you wish to connect to
> 127.0.0.1.

Which is why I suggested writing a configuration tool that does not try
to connect to 127.0.0.1. ;)

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Re: [maemo-developers] Fake IAP connection or how to use local web applications

2007-02-01 Thread william maddler
Marius Gedminas wrote:
> 
> Write an alternative configuration tool that doesn't require networking.
> 
> You do store configuration values in gconf, right?

Yep, the point is that looks like Dummy is not accepted as connection
type. So you are supposed to enable wi-fi if you wish to connect to
127.0.0.1.


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Re: [maemo-developers] Fake IAP connection or how to use local web applications

2007-02-01 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:40:32AM -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On 2/1/07, william maddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I know, and as I said already could not be usable in some environments
> >wher you are not allowed to have wi-fi (beside you can ifconfig down
> >your wlan0).
> >
> >But as of now, I cant't find a better way to have my
> >browser/talk/whatever whork while on usb network.
> 
> While I don't like canola-conf to provide the dummy localhost the old
> way, it's doable. But this new hack for n800 is too intrusive :-(
> 
> Any other way?

Write an alternative configuration tool that doesn't require networking.

You do store configuration values in gconf, right?

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Re: [maemo-developers] Fake IAP connection or how to use local web applications

2007-02-01 Thread william maddler
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On 2/1/07, william maddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> While I don't like canola-conf to provide the dummy localhost the old
> way, it's doable. But this new hack for n800 is too intrusive :-(
> 
> Any other way?

I'm working on it. I'll keep you updated...




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RE: [maemo-developers] libcst sources?

2007-02-01 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
Hi,
 
Let me create a bit of confusion here ;)
 
There are tutorials here:
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/certman.html
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/certman-api.html
 
but those are *not* for the certificate manager (I know, thats not what
the web pages say, but trust me). Those are for the libcst, which is a
low-level library that interfaces the certificate database, not the
certificate manager. 
 
Libcst should be available somewhere (at least in Bora's repository).
The real certificate manager is close-sourced yet we have the -dev
package with headers available in Bora's repository (AFAIK).
 
Br,
 
--jakub
 
 




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Subject: [maemo-developers] libcst sources?



Hello all,

Where can I download the sources of libcst, please?

Cheers,

Mikko


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Re: [maemo-developers] Fake IAP connection or how to use local web applications

2007-02-01 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri

On 2/1/07, william maddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I know, and as I said already could not be usable in some environments
wher you are not allowed to have wi-fi (beside you can ifconfig down
your wlan0).

But as of now, I cant't find a better way to have my
browser/talk/whatever whork while on usb network.


While I don't like canola-conf to provide the dummy localhost the old
way, it's doable. But this new hack for n800 is too intrusive :-(

Any other way?

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Re: [maemo-developers] Scanning WLAN problem

2007-02-01 Thread kalle ahokangas

Ok, I figured out what the problem was. I noticed that when you are scanning
as root user the behaviour is like decribed in prevous posts.
So to get the scanning work simultaneously with internet connection do not
become as root.

- Kalle

2007/1/31, kalle ahokangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi,
Thanks for responses.
The exact scenario is to collect only the rssi information from APs and
send that information to server. This procedure is repeated in a loop
and it doesnt work like it should. I can collect all the information I
need but you can not scan APs if your internet connection is up?!
I'm not trying to do any penetratin tests or anything similar.

Are you Mathias saying that there is no way to scan APs while the internet
connection is up and running?

I'll repeat my questions so you can understand my problem:

My questions are:
1. Is there a way to get scanning to work while the network connection is
on?
2. If not what is the best solution to implement requested functionality
(scan network -> send information to server)?
3. How does N800 work in this scenario?

- Kalle

2007/1/31, Nicolas FR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Depending on what kind of information you need, you might also use the
> python wireless tools bindings (pyiw
> http://www.emperorlinux.com/etc/contrib/?page=pyiw ). I have
> successfully compiled and used them on the Sharp Zaurus
> (http://geek-fr.com/blog/python_qt_wifi_and_the_zaurus).
>
> In 15 minutes with Python you can make your Wifi network scanner and
> post the results to a server.
>
> Nicolas.
>
> On 1/31/07, kalle ahokangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm developing an application to Nokia 770 which scans available
> network
> > infomation and then sends collected infomation to server.
> >
> > I'm using modifed wireless tools (
> > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html )
> > wlist source which works fine and
> > I can get all WLAN netwok information I need, but I can't send them to
> > server because in order to get the scanning to work the current
> > working network connection must be disconnected.
> >
> > If I use script to connect to network automatically the problem still
> > exists:
> >
> >  #!/bin/sh
> > source /usr/bin/connectivity_preload
> > .sh
> > ./wifiscan
> >
> >  If I have network setup I cant perform scanning iwlist
> prints'Interface
> > doesn't support scanning'. This is because function iw_get_range_info
> in
> > iwlib.c
> > returns !=1.
> >
> > My questions are:
> > 1. Is there a way to get scanning to work while the network connection
> is
> > on?
> > 2. If not what is the best solution to implement requested
> functionality
> > (scan network -> send information to server)?
> > 3. How does N800 work in this scenario?
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > - Kalle
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[maemo-developers] invoking method get_ipinfo

2007-02-01 Thread Raul Fernandes Herbster

I need to obtain the current ip address. The doc which explains maemo
connectivity architecture describes the method get_ipinfo (service
com.nokia.icd, interfaces com.nokia.icd,  object paths /com/nokia/icd).
Whenever the method is called (using osso_rpc_run), the following error
occurs <>. Can anyone help me?

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Re: [maemo-developers] n800 LED interface

2007-02-01 Thread Amit Kucheria
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 12:33 +0100, ext Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Larry Battraw wrote:
> >   First off, kudos to the maemo team for making such a nifty and
> > easy-to-use interface for the keypad LED.  I spent a inordinate amount
> > of time just tinkering with the brightness, blinking period, and so
> > forth :-)  For those interested, the relevant sys entries are here:
> > /sys/class/leds/keypad
> 
> For the records, the LED class interface was first designed by John
> Lenz (Zaurus Kernel 2.6 developer) and then redesigned and implemented
> by Richard Purdie (O-Hand), who is also the upstream maintainer.
> 

Yes, we use the LED framework that was integrated into the kernel
sometime ago.

Regards,
Amit
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[maemo-developers] libcst sources?

2007-02-01 Thread Alutoin Mikko
Hello all,

Where can I download the sources of libcst, please?

Cheers,

Mikko
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[maemo-developers] Closing the N800 developer device program

2007-02-01 Thread quim.gil
fyi

We will close the N800 developer device program in 24h. We will be still
reading and processing requests until then. "The less we know you the
more you should explain" has proven to be a useful principle. There are
still few codes available, specially for the US.

>From that point we will just keep the channel open to support those of
you having trouble, although at this point the online shops seem to be
dealing with the issues case by case.

Yes, there is still one open question at
https://maemo.org/maemowiki/N800DeveloperDeviceProgram - we will answer
that one, give us some time.

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Re: [maemo-developers] n800 LED interface

2007-02-01 Thread David Weinehall
On ons, 2007-01-31 at 20:48 -0500, ext Larry Battraw wrote:
>   First off, kudos to the maemo team for making such a nifty and
> easy-to-use interface for the keypad LED.  I spent a inordinate amount
> of time just tinkering with the brightness, blinking period, and so
> forth :-)  For those interested, the relevant sys entries are here:
> /sys/class/leds/keypad
> Should be self explanatory, particularly if you turn on the blinking
> from the control panel so you can cat out the values it uses for
> delay_off and delay_on, etc.
>   My question is this: for the default trigger source (timer), is the
> blinking just a hardware PWM built into the CPU or is the CPU involved
> in counting timer interrupts to handle on/off periods and toggling the
> LED?  I ask because there was some discussion on ITT about how someone
> had their n800 run down overnight with the LED left on.  It seemed
> unlikely but I wanted to make sure a bunch of CPU cycles weren't being
> burned to run it.

To avoid conflicts with the LED-patterns already in use on the device,
I'd suggest using the LED-framework.  Simply add your pattern
to /etc/mce/mce.ini, and use the D-Bus interface to enable/disable the
pattern.  That way you'll get full control over priorities between
different patterns, the possibility to disable certain patterns when the
display is on, etc.


Regards: David
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Re: [maemo-developers] n800 LED interface

2007-02-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Larry Battraw wrote:
>   First off, kudos to the maemo team for making such a nifty and
> easy-to-use interface for the keypad LED.  I spent a inordinate amount
> of time just tinkering with the brightness, blinking period, and so
> forth :-)  For those interested, the relevant sys entries are here:
> /sys/class/leds/keypad

For the records, the LED class interface was first designed by John
Lenz (Zaurus Kernel 2.6 developer) and then redesigned and implemented
by Richard Purdie (O-Hand), who is also the upstream maintainer.

Regards,

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Re: [maemo-developers] Creating themes for Maemo

2007-02-01 Thread Michael Dominic Kostrzewa
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 07:18:01PM +0200, Salminen Karoliina.T 
(Nokia-M/Helsinki) wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> >1) Install the hildon-theme-tools
> >2) Install the hildon-theme-layout-3 (that's the bora layout)
> >3) Copy the hlidon-theme-plankton-3 to your own dir, replace 
> >some names 
> >   in configure.ac (they're documented in the file)
> >4) Replace the template.png with your own. 
> 
> Well, I tried to modify the plankton theme.
> I tried to compile the package, but the new plankton theme depends on
> hildon-theme-layout-4.
> I didn't find it from the repositories.
> 
> I have both bora and sardine repositories in my scratchbox's
> sources.list.
> Where can I find hildon-theme-layout-4?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> Karoliina

Hey, 

there have been some changes recently. I'm forwarding you an explanatory
e-mali in another thread.

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Re: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-01 Thread Ian

Hi,



> The ruleset might be, then:
> - If what you're trying to do involves the platform, it's
> maemo-developers@
> - If what you're trying to do involves scratchbox, it's maemo-appdev@
> - If what you're trying to do involves hacks on the device (such as
> using xterm), it's maemo-users@
> - Otherwise, it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever.

I have said this before but I think it might work to have a community mailing 
list...
something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if what you are trying to do is brainstrorm new ideas or ramble on about what 
cool things you can
do with your 770/N800
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: GLIBC_2.4

2007-02-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi,

On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 10:27:33 -0500, Amy Sockanathan wrote:
> On 1/30/07, Amy Sockanathan wrote:
> > I am having a problem where it says "GLIBC_2.4" not defined and I saw
> > that the scratchbox compilers in maemo are 2.3.6 and I need 2.4. Is
> > there anyway to upgrade libc. Any help is much appreciated.

Given the lack of more detail I'll assume that with GLIBC_2.4 your error
is referring to a versioned symbol. If so, glibc should be providing that
already.

> Can someone please let me know how I cna upgrade libc in the maemo
> scratchbox from 2.3.6 to 2.4. This is a road-block for me.

,
[sbox-armel: ~] > objdump -p /lib/libc.so.6 | sed -ne '/^Version/,/^priv/p'
Version definitions:
1 0x01 0x0865f4e6 libc.so.6
2 0x00 0x0d696914 GLIBC_2.4
3 0x00 0x0963cf85 GLIBC_PRIVATE
GLIBC_2.4

Version References:
  required from ld-linux.so.3:
0x0963cf85 0x00 05 GLIBC_PRIVATE
0x0d696914 0x00 04 GLIBC_2.4
private flags = 402: [Version4 EABI] [has entry point]
[sbox-armel: ~] >
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Without more information it's difficult to help you, please provide the
complete error message.

regards,
guillem
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Re: [maemo-developers] New list spin-off?

2007-02-01 Thread Dave Cridland

On Wed Jan 31 21:04:27 2007, Dave Neuer wrote:

On 1/31/07, Mike Lococo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Mainly, I think people need to be "meaner" on maemo-developers 
about

pushing non-development discussion over to the users list.


Tommi explained that maemo-users was for application developers 
(which

makes sense to me, very analogous to the way other framework mailing
lists work). The real end-user list would be something like
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or users of particular applications (presumably
hosted separately). So "development" discussions not pertaining to
framework/platform development should be pushed to the "users" list;
non-development issues should probably go to yet another list.


Except that maemo-users@ has become the "power-users" mailing list, 
and it's hard to change the flow of a mailing list.


Why not create a maemo-appdev@ for application development and 
discussion, and I think Nokia might consider a more end-user 
orientated mailing list as well.


The ruleset might be, then:
- If what you're trying to do involves the platform, it's 
maemo-developers@

- If what you're trying to do involves scratchbox, it's maemo-appdev@
- If what you're trying to do involves hacks on the device (such as 
using xterm), it's maemo-users@

- Otherwise, it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Fake IAP connection or how to use local web applications

2007-02-01 Thread william maddler
I know, and as I said already could not be usable in some environments
wher you are not allowed to have wi-fi (beside you can ifconfig down
your wlan0).

But as of now, I cant't find a better way to have my
browser/talk/whatever whork while on usb network.

Collin R. Mulliner wrote:
> I don't like this solution, it is far to complicated for everyday usage.
> 
> Collin
[...]

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Re: [maemo-developers] Fake IAP connection or how to use local web applications

2007-02-01 Thread william maddler
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
[...]>
>   gconftool -s -t string /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/Localhost/type DUMMY
> 
> but this doesn't work with N800.
> 
> I wonder:
> - how to overcome this problem in N800.
> - is there a better approach to this problem?
> - why do you request IAP connection for localhost?

Give a look at my blog on maemopeople.org:

http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/maddraves/2007/01/30/p41

Bye



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