Re: Garage project news (was RE: Plugins available for MaemoClaws-mail 2.9.2-1)
Hi, ext Kevin T. Neely wrote: I agree with Jean-Luc. Daily e-mail from the list rarely tops 20 (which includes notices of new releases), I don't see a problem. I learned about MaemoClaws here and when the notice came out (just using this as an example) I decided to give it a try. I would not have checked Maybe brand-new projects and very major releases make sense to be on the list, but minor updates, an additional plug-in, etc. would not be sent to the list. This seems like a pretty good compromise, but I am just a user of the great projects on garage and not a developer of any of them. IMHO all the fixes to crashes and leaks could also announced here, at least if the components is a Desktop applet or otherwise always running. They can have major effect to device stability even if the fix would be one-liner (i.e. not really a major feature :-)). - Eero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS
Mikhail, the version that I am running is 0.9.1 and I am pretty sure that I used the application manager to install it. If you would like a screenshot or something like that I can send it to you off list. Just let me know what you need. In the scale of annoyances, this is not, for me a biggie since there is a simple workaround. Interestingly, and contrary to my understanding of X11vnc, X11vnc seems to stop running after a period of inactivity (i.e. no connection) and then it must be restarted. I would have thought that, since it runs as a daemon/service, that it would remain running/listening once it is started. In fact, it would be nice if the load-applet could be enhanced to include stop and restart as options for those processes that are installed as daemons and, furthermore, to somehow distinguish them in the process list from those processes that are not daemons/services. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Mikhail Sobolev wrote: Hi John On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:19:42PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: I have been unable to get the x11vnc and free42 apps to show up in the simple launcher menu. Unfortunately when I attempt to select either of these two apps the checkbox does not check. These are the only 2 apps on the simple launcher apps list, in fact, that do not check when the checkbox is selected. Could you please advise where you took the applications from? I'm _slowly_ working on SimplLauncher now, but I'd like to make a release soon and this kind of issues I'd like to address as much as possible. -- Misha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Garage project news (was RE: Plugins available for MaemoClaws-mail 2.9.2-1)
Quim/Jean-Luc/Nick, I too like the idea of announcing the releases here. I check my email much more often than I do www pages and with inbound email autofiltering the email volume is no problem on this list. In fact I am on one topic specific list that has ~100 messages/day. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks *would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike? you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com*** * *** Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: I agree with Jean-Luc. Daily e-mail from the list rarely tops 20 (which includes notices of new releases), I don't see a problem. I learned about MaemoClaws here and when the notice came out (just using this as an example) I decided to give it a try. I would not have checked the garage project news for this before then. Perhaps the forecast for new sales is very high and you're preparing for an onslaught of new users? :-) Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean-Luc Biord Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 5:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: Garage project news (was RE: Plugins available for MaemoClaws-mail 2.9.2-1) Hi, As you have seen now the http://maemo.org homepage features the news coming from http://garage.maemo.org, that are written directly by the project maintainers. Users can subscribe to feeds and be the first ones to know. Garage project maintainers, please make sure all your relevant updates are reflected there with as much detail as possible. The GForge interface is not the best in the world to publish news and receive feedback but it does both. As usual, please submit feature requests if you miss something. Sending emails to the mailing lists for new releases can't be considered off topic but with 200 projects in Garage (and growing) it is clear that it's not a sustainable practice in the mid term. Thanks for your understanding (and yes, specifically Claws mail project tends to publish news - I just needed an example to raise this topic). :) Quim Hi Quim, I do not agree. I think that a users mailing list is a good location, with others, to announce new versions of applications. All 200 projects will never announce in the same time. All people doesn't survey maemo.org to find new releases. But as you want, and even if I think that it's an error, the new releases will not be any more announced on this list. Jean-Luc Biord ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS
Hi John On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:59:52AM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: the version that I am running is 0.9.1 and I am pretty sure that I used the application manager to install it. If you would like a screenshot or something like that I can send it to you off list. Just let me know what you need. Sorry for not being specific :) What version of x11vnc and free42 you were trying and where did you take them from? -- Misha Mikhail Sobolev wrote: Hi John On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:19:42PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: I have been unable to get the x11vnc and free42 apps to show up in the simple launcher menu. Unfortunately when I attempt to select either of these two apps the checkbox does not check. These are the only 2 apps on the simple launcher apps list, in fact, that do not check when the checkbox is selected. Could you please advise where you took the applications from? I'm _slowly_ working on SimplLauncher now, but I'd like to make a release soon and this kind of issues I'd like to address as much as possible. -- Misha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS
Mikhail, the version that I am running is 0.9.1 and I am pretty sure that I used the application manager to install it. If you would like a screenshot or something like that I can send it to you off list. Just let me know what you need. In the scale of annoyances, this is not, for me a biggie since there is a simple workaround. Interestingly, and contrary to my understanding of X11vnc, X11vnc seems to stop running after a period of inactivity (i.e. no connection) and then it must be restarted. I used to see that, and then or no apparent reason it stopped dropping the connection and seems completely reliable now. I would have thought that, since it runs as a daemon/service, that it would remain running/listening once it is started. In fact, it would be nice if the load-applet could be enhanced to include stop and restart as options for those processes that are installed as daemons and, furthermore, to somehow distinguish them in the process list from those processes that are not daemons/services. Even better would be a way to allow connections to services when the N800 is offline (as on a 'plane) or not connected to Wi-Fi. This is a real show-stopper .. nobody seems to know a workaround. :-( mfc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS
Misha, the version numbers shown in the application manager installed apps menu are as follows: *App Version #* X11VNC 0.8-3 Free42 1.4.27-hildon3 Unfortunately the metadata associated with the app that is shown in the application manager does not indicate from where the app was taken. I am pretty sure that I took the Free42 app from the maemo downloads www site. Regarding X11VNC, I am less certain of where I got that from. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks * * *would** you like to know where is Darren on his thru-hike? you can find out at:www.whereisdarren.com*** * * Mikhail Sobolev wrote: Hi John On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:59:52AM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: the version that I am running is 0.9.1 and I am pretty sure that I used the application manager to install it. If you would like a screenshot or something like that I can send it to you off list. Just let me know what you need. Sorry for not being specific :) What version of x11vnc and free42 you were trying and where did you take them from? -- Misha Mikhail Sobolev wrote: Hi John On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:19:42PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: I have been unable to get the x11vnc and free42 apps to show up in the simple launcher menu. Unfortunately when I attempt to select either of these two apps the checkbox does not check. These are the only 2 apps on the simple launcher apps list, in fact, that do not check when the checkbox is selected. Could you please advise where you took the applications from? I'm _slowly_ working on SimplLauncher now, but I'd like to make a release soon and this kind of issues I'd like to address as much as possible. -- Misha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS
John, Some Maemo DBUS launching stuff was missing from the free42-1.4.27-hildon3 version, try newer one -1.4.29.hildon2. New version should be available in the usual places... After 15 seconds of testing at least you can select and launch it from simple-launcher (haven't tried idea!) Once running and minimized, tapping on it in s-l won't bring it foreground, I dunno if it should... tatu -- http://www.tajuma.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Does Python 2.5 work on ITOS2007 Hacker Edition?
Same as subject: does Python 2.5 for Maemo work on ITOS2007 Hacker Edition? -- Antonio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS
On 5/14/07, Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Misha, the version numbers shown in the application manager installed apps menu are as follows: *App Version #* X11VNC 0.8-3 Free42 1.4.27-hildon3 Unfortunately the metadata associated with the app that is shown in the application manager does not indicate from where the app was taken. I am pretty sure that I took the Free42 app from the maemo downloads www site. Regarding X11VNC, I am less certain of where I got that from. Perhaps you got it from http://mike.saunby.googlepages.com/x11vncfornokia7702 ? IIRC the desktop file pointed to a shell script that acted like on/off button, alternatively starting and stopping the service. Is it a problem if it's not launched via D-Bus? Br, Jari -- .signature: No such file or directory ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
