Re: Python startup desktop icon

2007-08-09 Thread Pierre Amadio
Hi there.

On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 04:54:45PM -0400, Tony Maro wrote:
> It tells me "Starting app" in the top right, and the application starts just
> fine.
> 
> Then, after about 20 seconds, the app closes.  If I launch it without using
> X-Osso-service, it of course gives no notification that the app is opening,
> but it opens and stays open.
> 
...
...
> X-Osso-Service=thummim

What happens if you use 

X-Osso-Service=com.nokia.thummim 

?

I encoutered a similar problem if i try to use something else than
com.nokia (say org.maemo.something).
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1475

I'm a bit lost whenever i envouter a bbus or osso problem...

Hope this helps.


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Re: dbus api for wlancond

2007-08-09 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I posted a message a week ago about trouble scaning the wifi card for
> APs. Apparently there is a bug when using iwlist. I saw a comment
> about using the dbus interface to use wlancond directly. However I
> can't find documentation for this interface.

It has been asked frequently, but I think there's no such
documentation currently. But there's definitely a need for it.

But it wouldn't be too hard write one. There's only one request and
reply IIRC. And osso-wlan sources are available, so you don't have to
guess anything:

http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo3.2/free/source/osso-wlan_1.2.1.tar.gz

Maybe you could write one and share it with community? If you have any
questions, post them here and I'll try to answer them.

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Re: GAUDEC 2007 Presentations?

2007-08-09 Thread Quim Gil
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 23:32 +0100, ext Neil MacLeod wrote:
> I'd like to see a centralised page with links for Maemo related
>  presentations would be helpful, and if the Maemo-related presentations
>  aren't currently available, lets get them hosted. :)

Something like http://maemo.org/intro/presentations/ if I would have got
the time to chase the maemo GUADEC slide-makers, and publish the stuff.

But you are totally right. Some maemo developers did send/post the
slides so I'll go and upload what we have got and then chase the rest.

In fact what I'm recommending as default option is to upload the
presentations to http://www.slideshare.net/tag/maemo so it's easier to
make them available to everybody and link them from maemo.org

(And now with my GNOME hat: yes, they should also be listed at
http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2007/Slides )

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Re: Dear Nokia.

2007-08-09 Thread Urivan Saaib
Hi all,

Is there an install script to setup the devel enviroment?

Regards,

PS: my first email from the n770! wohoo!

==Original message text===
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:48:51 PDT Thomas Nilsson wrote:

Mario Carrion wrote:

>> Please do not direct me to
>> http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html>>
>>  as this document is broken, vital parts are missing such as the 
>> actual commands one is supposed to type, links go to imaginary 
>> protocols such as "site:", "community:".

> Try
> 
> http://test.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/Maemo_tutorial.html
Excellent, this one is not broken. I sincerely thank you.

// Thomas
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===End of original message text===



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CiberLinux Networking
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Re: Python startup desktop icon

2007-08-09 Thread Tony Maro
On 8/9/07, Eduardo Lima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> You need to call osso.Context() somewhere in your code, preferably in
> the beginning of main function. You'll also need to call osso.close()
> in the end of your code.



Aha!  Exactly what I needed.  Thanks!
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Re: GAUDEC 2007 Presentations?

2007-08-09 Thread Neil MacLeod
Eduardo Lima wrote:
> Hi Neil,
> 
> On 8/9/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've seen several blog postings recently (such as this one by Carlos[1]) 
>> which reference GUADEC presentations (eg. Tko's "Maemo and gtk+: Past, 
>> present and future"[2]) and I'd like to view the presentations/slides that 
>> were given (if they are available).
>>
> 
> I think tko's presentation slides won't be that interesting without
> himself talking...

I guess... but still, there might be some useful/interesting/hopeful insights 
which appear within the presentation itself.

> 
>> A whole bunch of Maemo and Nokia related presentations were given at this 
>> years GUADEC, is it possible for them to be hosted centrally on maemo.org 
>> for us all to view? Sadly we're all not able to attend GUADEC and miss out 
>> on these presentations which are no doubt interesting and informative.
>>
> 
> Some of the presentations can be found at
> http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2007/Slides . Maybe we could create a
> page in maemo wiki linking only to maemo related presentations.
> 
> Best Regards, Etrunko.
> 
Thanks for the link to the gnome site - I'd searched around and around but 
couldn't find anything! :) However that page only lists a pretty small 
subsection of the presentations that were given - aside from your own and Quims 
presentations, all the Maemo related presentations are still MIA.

I'd like to see a centralised page with links for Maemo related presentations 
would be helpful, and if the Maemo-related presentations aren't currently 
available, lets get them hosted. :)

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Re: GAUDEC 2007 Presentations?

2007-08-09 Thread Eduardo Lima
Hi Neil,

On 8/9/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've seen several blog postings recently (such as this one by Carlos[1]) 
> which reference GUADEC presentations (eg. Tko's "Maemo and gtk+: Past, 
> present and future"[2]) and I'd like to view the presentations/slides that 
> were given (if they are available).
>

I think tko's presentation slides won't be that interesting without
himself talking...

> A whole bunch of Maemo and Nokia related presentations were given at this 
> years GUADEC, is it possible for them to be hosted centrally on maemo.org for 
> us all to view? Sadly we're all not able to attend GUADEC and miss out on 
> these presentations which are no doubt interesting and informative.
>

Some of the presentations can be found at
http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2007/Slides . Maybe we could create a
page in maemo wiki linking only to maemo related presentations.

Best Regards, Etrunko.

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INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia
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Re: Python startup desktop icon

2007-08-09 Thread Eduardo Lima
Hi,

You need to call osso.Context() somewhere in your code, preferably in
the beginning of main function. You'll also need to call osso.close()
in the end of your code. Something like this:


import osso

if __name__ == "__main__":

   osso_ctx = osso.Context(thummim, , False)
   ...
   
   ...
   osso_ctx.close()

Best Regards, Etrunko.

On 8/9/07, Tony Maro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to follow the instructions at
> http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/python_maemo_3.x_howto.html
>
> I have the icon launching my app just fine, but when I use the
> "X-Osso-Service" and a .service dbus file, I get something odd.
>
> It tells me "Starting app" in the top right, and the application starts just
> fine.
>
> Then, after about 20 seconds, the app closes.  If I launch it without using
> X-Osso-service, it of course gives no notification that the app is opening,
> but it opens and stays open.
>
>
> Here's my thummim.desktop file:
>
> [Desktop Entry]
> Encoding=UTF-8
> Name=Thummim Reader
> Comment=Thummim Scripture Reader
> Exec=/home/user/Thummim/Thummim
> Type=Application
> Icon=gpe-todo
> X-Osso-Service=thummim
> X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable
>
> Here's my thummim.service file:
>
> [D-BUS Service]
> Name=com.nokia.thummim
> Exec=/home/user/Thummim/Thummim
>
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GAUDEC 2007 Presentations?

2007-08-09 Thread Neil MacLeod
I've seen several blog postings recently (such as this one by Carlos[1]) which 
reference GUADEC presentations (eg. Tko's "Maemo and gtk+: Past, present and 
future"[2]) and I'd like to view the presentations/slides that were given (if 
they are available).

A whole bunch of Maemo and Nokia related presentations were given at this years 
GUADEC, is it possible for them to be hosted centrally on maemo.org for us all 
to view? Sadly we're all not able to attend GUADEC and miss out on these 
presentations which are no doubt interesting and informative.

Thanks
Neil

1. http://www.notacloud.com/blog/?p=37
2. http://guadec.org/node/584

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N800 is USB Host mode (Compiling kernel with CONFIG_USB_MUSB_HOST)

2007-08-09 Thread Michael Lapinski
Hello,
  Ive been continuing to try and get the N800 even recognize a self 
powered device (in my case a USB hub with it own power supplied to the 
mini plug of the 800).


I noticed there is an kernel option CONFIG_USB_MUSB_HOST which I am 
guessing forces the device to act as a host. When I compile the kernel 
with this option set and the CONFIG_USB_MUSB_OTG unset the 800 wont even 
bootup. It loads the boot screen etc and the blue status bar goes across 
the screen, then the device resets.

Does anyone have any ideas why this would happen? Also can anyone tell 
me what the USB chipset is on the 800?

-thank you
-mtl
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Python startup desktop icon

2007-08-09 Thread Tony Maro
I'm trying to follow the instructions at
http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/python_maemo_3.x_howto.html

I have the icon launching my app just fine, but when I use the
"X-Osso-Service" and a .service dbus file, I get something odd.

It tells me "Starting app" in the top right, and the application starts just
fine.

Then, after about 20 seconds, the app closes.  If I launch it without using
X-Osso-service, it of course gives no notification that the app is opening,
but it opens and stays open.


Here's my thummim.desktop file:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Thummim Reader
Comment=Thummim Scripture Reader
Exec=/home/user/Thummim/Thummim
Type=Application
Icon=gpe-todo
X-Osso-Service=thummim
X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable

Here's my thummim.service file:

[D-BUS Service]
Name=com.nokia.thummim
Exec=/home/user/Thummim/Thummim
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Re: Dear Nokia.

2007-08-09 Thread Thomas Nilsson
Mario Carrion wrote:

>> Please do not direct me to
>> http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html
>> as this document is broken, vital parts are missing such as the 
>> actual commands one is supposed to type, links go to imaginary 
>> protocols such as "site:", "community:".

> Try
> 
> http://test.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/Maemo_tutorial.html

Excellent, this one is not broken. I sincerely thank you.

// Thomas
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Re: Dear Nokia.

2007-08-09 Thread Mario Carrion
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:31:29 +0200, Thomas Nilsson wrote
> I request information on how I can install scratchbox and the maemo
> rootstraps and the required steps to set up my toolchain in order to
> start playing around with developing for my 770.
> 
> Please do not direct me to
> http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html
> 
> as this document is broken, vital parts are missing such as the 
> actual commands one is supposed to type, links go to imaginary 
> protocols such as "site:", "community:".
> 
> Also, please do not tell me to report this in the bugzilla, other people
> have tried and the only activity for those bugs are a few reassignements
> between different people at Nokia.
Try

http://test.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/Maemo_tutorial.html

Regards,
Mario CarriĆ³n
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Re: Dear Nokia.

2007-08-09 Thread Daniil Ivanov
Hi!

Why don't you want to install SDK?

~Daniil.

On 09/08/07, Thomas Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I request information on how I can install scratchbox and the maemo
> rootstraps and the required steps to set up my toolchain in order to
> start playing around with developing for my 770.
>
> Please do not direct me to
> http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html
>
> as this document is broken, vital parts are missing such as the actual
> commands one is supposed to type, links go to imaginary protocols such
> as "site:", "community:".
>
> Also, please do not tell me to report this in the bugzilla, other people
> have tried and the only activity for those bugs are a few reassignements
> between different people at Nokia.
>
> Please.
>
> Best regards,
> Thomas
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Dear Nokia.

2007-08-09 Thread Thomas Nilsson
I request information on how I can install scratchbox and the maemo
rootstraps and the required steps to set up my toolchain in order to
start playing around with developing for my 770.

Please do not direct me to
http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html 

as this document is broken, vital parts are missing such as the actual
commands one is supposed to type, links go to imaginary protocols such
as "site:", "community:".

Also, please do not tell me to report this in the bugzilla, other people
have tried and the only activity for those bugs are a few reassignements
between different people at Nokia.

Please.

Best regards,
Thomas

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Re: Make file open browse root tree?

2007-08-09 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Tony Maro wrote:
> On 8/6/07, Austin Che <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to make the file open dialog browse the entire tree,
>> either
>>> by specifying something in sourcecode, or a secret trick to get the
>> existing
>>> dialog to show everything?
>> Something like this works for me:
>> cd MyDocs; ln -s / root
> 
> 
> I've learned that this is a BAD thing to do - sends the metalayer-crawler
> into an endless loop and sucks your battery dry.

There's a bug about that in Maemo bugzilla.  It will be fixed to
the next release.

(I thought it had been fixed for the latest release along with handling
of badly corrupted MMCs, but just noticed that the patches for these had
been post-poned for later.)


> That explains why I've had issues since doing this with both responsiveness
> and battery life...

If you avoid linking recursive directory structures (/, /sys, /dev...
and of course /home because MyDocs is there) you should be fine.  I.e.
just add more/direct symlinks to places about which you're actually
interested about. :-)


- Eero
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Re: Make file open browse root tree?

2007-08-09 Thread Tony Maro
On 8/6/07, Austin Che <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Is there a way to make the file open dialog browse the entire tree,
> either
> > by specifying something in sourcecode, or a secret trick to get the
> existing
> > dialog to show everything?
>
> Something like this works for me:
> cd MyDocs; ln -s / root


I've learned that this is a BAD thing to do - sends the metalayer-crawler
into an endless loop and sucks your battery dry.

That explains why I've had issues since doing this with both responsiveness
and battery life...
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RE : dbus api for wlancond

2007-08-09 Thread magda chelly

Hi Nic,

So, in fact, I'm searching the same thing that you :
Scan the wifi card and read all API informations,
without any problem when connection is on. 
But, I couldn't find anything that works, util today.
So, if anyone has an idea, it would be nice.

Thanks to all,
Magda,


  
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Re: I need your help

2007-08-09 Thread Daniil Ivanov
Hi,

SDK_ARMEL is for making binaries for the device, and SDK_PC is for
making and testing binaries in emulator.

Thanks, Daniil.

On 09/08/07, steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,I am a new guy who wants to do something on the N770.Therefore I must
> set up the development environment first.I am benefited a lot from the
> article wrote on
> http://www.ptlug.org/wiki/Howto_Installing_Maemo_SDK_for_Nokia_770
>
> I follow the instructions step by step, without any error info.
> but in the end, when I want run the maemo, it give me the following
> error.the maemo gui do not show.when I switch to SDK_PC,there is no
> problem.it can startup normally. can you help fix this problem.Thanks~~~
>
> ---
> [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > export DISPLAY=:2
> [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > af-sb-init.sh start
> Note: For remote X connections DISPLAY should contain hostname!
> Sample files present.
> Starting DBUS system bus
> Starting D-BUS session bus daemon
> Starting Maemo Launcher: maemo-launcher start failed.
> Starting Sapwood image server
> Starting Matchbox window manager
> Starting clipboard-manager
> sapwood-server[2827]: GLIB INFO default - server started
> Starting Keyboard
> Starting MAEMO AF Desktop
> -
>
>
> 
> [sbox-SDK_PC: ~] > export DISPLAY=:2
> [sbox-SDK_PC: ~] > af-sb-init.sh start
> Note: For remote X connections DISPLAY should contain hostname!
> Sample files present.
> Starting DBUS system bus
> Starting D-BUS session bus daemon
> Starting Maemo Launcher: maemo-launcher.
> maemo-launcher: error rising the oom shield for pid=3300 status=5632
> Starting Sapwood image server
> sapwood-server[3311]: GLIB INFO default - server started
> Starting Matchbox window manager
> Starting clipboard-manager
> Starting Keyboard
> maemo-launcher: invoking '/usr/bin/hildon-input-method.launch'
> Starting MAEMO AF Desktop
> maemo-launcher: invoking '/usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop.launch'
> [sbox-SDK_PC: ~] > maemo-launcher: error kernel w/o support for user
> processes rising the oom value
> maemo-launcher: error kernel w/o support for user processes rising the
> oom valuehildon-input-method[3347]: GLIB MESSAGE default - keyboard up
> and running
> TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 1 g_new0
> TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 2 check panel ptr
> TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 3: init dock
> TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 4 add prespecified items
> TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 5 add user items
> TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 6 gtk widget show all
> TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 7 if rpc...
> TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 8, status bar initialized successfully
> 
>
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I need your help

2007-08-09 Thread steven
hi,I am a new guy who wants to do something on the N770.Therefore I must
set up the development environment first.I am benefited a lot from the
article wrote on
http://www.ptlug.org/wiki/Howto_Installing_Maemo_SDK_for_Nokia_770
 
I follow the instructions step by step, without any error info.
but in the end, when I want run the maemo, it give me the following
error.the maemo gui do not show.when I switch to SDK_PC,there is no
problem.it can startup normally. can you help fix this problem.Thanks~~~

---
[sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > export DISPLAY=:2
[sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > af-sb-init.sh start
Note: For remote X connections DISPLAY should contain hostname!
Sample files present.
Starting DBUS system bus
Starting D-BUS session bus daemon
Starting Maemo Launcher: maemo-launcher start failed.
Starting Sapwood image server
Starting Matchbox window manager
Starting clipboard-manager
sapwood-server[2827]: GLIB INFO default - server started
Starting Keyboard
Starting MAEMO AF Desktop
-



[sbox-SDK_PC: ~] > export DISPLAY=:2
[sbox-SDK_PC: ~] > af-sb-init.sh start
Note: For remote X connections DISPLAY should contain hostname!
Sample files present.
Starting DBUS system bus
Starting D-BUS session bus daemon
Starting Maemo Launcher: maemo-launcher.
maemo-launcher: error rising the oom shield for pid=3300 status=5632
Starting Sapwood image server
sapwood-server[3311]: GLIB INFO default - server started
Starting Matchbox window manager
Starting clipboard-manager
Starting Keyboard
maemo-launcher: invoking '/usr/bin/hildon-input-method.launch'
Starting MAEMO AF Desktop
maemo-launcher: invoking '/usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop.launch'
[sbox-SDK_PC: ~] > maemo-launcher: error kernel w/o support for user
processes rising the oom value
maemo-launcher: error kernel w/o support for user processes rising the
oom valuehildon-input-method[3347]: GLIB MESSAGE default - keyboard up
and running
TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 1 g_new0
TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 2 check panel ptr
TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 3: init dock
TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 4 add prespecified items
TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 5 add user items
TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 6 gtk widget show all
TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 7 if rpc...
TRACE LOG: status_bar_main: 8, status bar initialized successfully



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maemo wiki refactoring

2007-08-09 Thread Quim Gil
After a short discussion today we have decided to start with a new main
page to start linking the currently useful pages from there, and let's
evolve from that point.

http://maemo.org/community/wiki/

Behind the main page there are still all the pages. It is a matter of
selecting what is worth to be linked from the main page. This way
newcomers and people not landing in wiki pages through the search may
get a better idea of what is the purpose of the community wiki and what
can be found there.

Everybody is invited to select the "good" pages and report the status of
all the rest at http://maemo.org/community/wiki/wikireorg/

PS: The previous main page is still there:
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/indexb

-- 
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Re: do we need garage sandbox repos?

2007-08-09 Thread Vlad Vasiliev
Ed Bartosh wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 20:04 +0300, ext Ed Bartosh wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 12:54 +0300, ext Ferenc Szekely wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It has been a long time, so time to write to all of you :)
>>>
>>> We had a good chat with some of the microb folks here in my room
>>> yesterday. The conclusion was that we should perhaps offer a 'sandbox'
>>> repository for garage projects. This would be a place where any
>>> project could upload packages, make sure that they are installable on
>>> the environment they are targeting for (like stock Nokia N800) etc.
>>> The sandbox would serve as a "staging environment" before pushing the
>>> packages to "extras".
>>>
>>> The repo will not be on "repository.maemo.org", but on "garage". This
>>> would hopefully hide it enough from users who could accidentally run
>>> into troubles using this sandbox on their tablets.
>>>
>>> The repo maintenance would be done with volunteers. I could establish
>>> the basic environment, make sure that your uploaded packages are
>>> processed etc, but I would like to get your help cleaning up the
>>> sandbox every now and then.
>>>
>>> Yeah, it is yet another repository, I know. But it could perhaps take
>>> away some work from those of you who are running an own repo today. So
>>> what do you think?
>>>
>>>   
>> I totally support the idea. For me it would be very useful to have some
>> repository to put applications for testing before releasing them to
>> extras. I'd not call it sandbox but extras-devel or something similar to
>> emphasize its primary usage scenario.
>> I can help to maintain it if needed.
>>
>> 
> extras-testing would be even better. It's clearly says that this
> repository is for testing applications on their way to extras.
>
>   

This is a good idea. I need such mechanism for wide testing the my deb
packets.

Vlad Vasiiev.
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