Re: Standardization of packages version name in the extra repositories

[Ryan Abel]

- Original message -
> Jamie Bennett wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 09:17 -0400, Jason Edgecombe wrote:
> > 
> > > BTW, is there something like debian-mentors for maemo? This would be
> > > extremely useful for someone as myself who is a newbie when it comes
> > >   
> > to
> > 
> > > debian packaging.
> > >   
> >
> > Not that I know of but it would be a good idea; #maemo-newbies ;) ?
> > 
> #maemo-newbies might be good, but my questions stumped the people in
> #maemo.
>

What would be the real benefit to another channel? Just another place to idle 
and divide the attention between more channels. No point.

What question, exactly?
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Re: Standardization of packages version name in the extra repositories

[Jason Edgecombe]

Jamie Bennett wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 09:17 -0400, Jason Edgecombe wrote:
>   
>> BTW, is there something like debian-mentors for maemo? This would be
>> extremely useful for someone as myself who is a newbie when it comes
>> 
> to
>   
>> debian packaging.
>> 
>
> Not that I know of but it would be a good idea; #maemo-newbies ;) ?
>   
#maemo-newbies might be good, but my questions stumped the people in 
#maemo.

Jason
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Re: need help uploading to Extras

[Owen Williams]

On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 13:50 +0400, Andrew Zabolotny wrote:
> From Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:10:35 -0400
> Owen Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you used some tool to build the debian/ directory? If you're
> building the .deb file manually, that won't work for the builder, as it
> needs automatic instructions for building your package.

I am building the deb manually.  I don't know how to make a debian/
directory.  Again, the instructions are always C-specific.  The idea
below of looking at apt-get source sonata is a great idea to help with
this.

> 
> > The first is a hildonized version of the Sonata MPD client
> > (http://sonata.berlios.de/).  I've uploaded my patched tarball and
> > built deb here: http://ywwg.com/maemo/  Version 1.5.2 is the latest
> > version.
> I can help you with packaging, as I'm interested too in Sonata. Do you
> have a project on garage for this?

No, I just have a diff file against current Sonata SVN.  (The Sonata
maintainer has said that the diff is too large to merge into trunk).
I'll set up a garage page, but I'll need some help setting up a repo
that can pull in changes from Sonata's primary SVN from time to time.

> 
> Also you may try to get/adapt the packaging scripts from the Ubuntu or
> Debian version of Sonata. Just run "apt-get source sonata" in some
> directory from Ubuntu/Debian.

that's a good idea


> That's easy, really. You just have to read a little docs (for example,
> here: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/

I think I'll focus on getting sonata to work, then start wrestling with
this problem.


> I believe that's because you don't provide larger icons (app menu
> uses 64x64 icons as far as I understand), or don't run
> gtk-update-icon-cache. You should put them in 
> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/ and run
> 
> gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor
> 
> from your postinst hooks of the .deb package.


I thought "scalable" would be enough :).  

thanks for all the info, I'll see if I can beat on this a little more.

owen

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Re: Introduction to Maemo hacking on Maemo-Summit?

[Jamie Bennett]

On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 11:38 -0700, Urivan Saaib wrote:
> It is an excellent idea, but please:
> 
> - Share the slides, and
> - If possible, plan on recording/broadcasting the sessions.

If the presentation is happening at the Maemo summit then I can record
it as part of the recording team if there is enough interest.

> Regards,
> 
> -Urivan Flores

Regards,
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Re: [Query] apt-get update failed

[Jamie Bennett]

On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 15:16 +0530, atul raut wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> When I am trying [sbox-CHINOOK_ARMEL: ~] > apt-get update 
> 
> It failed with Error message 
> 
> "Failed to fetch 
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-armel/Packages.gz  Unable 
> to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.I"
> 
>  why it is so ?
> Any Idea can anyone have ?

Can you ping the outside world? http://www.google.com for instance?
whats in your /etc/apt/sources.list?

> br
> atul

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Sandbox mount problems

[Bruce Forsberg]

I have just started to code my new project (http://mileage.garage.maemo.org)
and have a beginners question to ask. I had alot of problems setting up
sandbox and installing the targets for diablo. I think I have finally got it
all setup except for one problem. Every time I reboot by laptop (DELL
inspiron) with Open SUSE 10.3 and login to scratchbox I get the error:
ERROR: Scratchbox is not properly setup. I find that the areas
/opt/scratchbox/users/forsberg/dev and /opt/scratchbox/users
forsberg/scratchbox are empty. I have to, as root, execute
"/opt/scratchbox/sbin/sbox_mount forsberg" in order to setup these up again.


Have I missed something in the setup? I don't think I have read anywhere
that I should have to do this.

Thanks,
Bruce Forsberg
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Re: Standardization of packages version name in the extra repositories

[Jamie Bennett]

On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 09:17 -0400, Jason Edgecombe wrote:
> BTW, is there something like debian-mentors for maemo? This would be
> extremely useful for someone as myself who is a newbie when it comes
to
> debian packaging.

Not that I know of but it would be a good idea; #maemo-newbies ;) ?

> Jason

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Re: Maemo Bug Jar #15

[Jamie Bennett]

On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:58 +0300, Quim Gil wrote:
> I propose to have Website bugs out of the Jars. The Website bugs are
> reasonably well tracked and managed mostly at a community/public level.
> There are many and they add too much data to the Jars. Data that is
> almost pure noise for the average Nokia guy working on Maemo software.

Agreed. As a Maemo developer it would be nice to see the bugs related to
the Maemo platform without the noise of the website bugs. If its not too
much work and people are still interested in the website bugs then maybe
split the bug jar into two?

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IP packets Traffic Control with tc - kind request

[Darius Jack]

Hi,

excellent source for Internet traffic shaping

http://www.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/traffic_shaping/scenarios.html

http://www.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/traffic_shaping/classflows.html#iptu32

but please tell me how to control Wifi traffic to a number of clients.

Is netstat, nload a good solution ?

Just need to write basic shell script to count a number of Wifi /www clients
(netstat -a  > parser ) and have a tool, command, script
to share Wifi bandwidth between Wifi/ www clients

What I see promising in iptables is

dstlimit
This module allows you to limit the packet per second (pps) rate on a per 
destination IP or per destination port base. As opposed to the `limit' match, 
every destination ip / destination port has it's own limit.

--dstlimit avg
Maximum average match rate (packets per second unless followed by /sec 
/minute /hour /day postfixes). 
--dstlimit-mode mode
The limiting hashmode. Is the specified limit per dstip, dstip-dstport 
tuple, srcip-dstip tuple, or per srcipdstip-dstport tuple. 
--dstlimit-name name
Name for /proc/net/ipt_dstlimit/* file entry 
[--dstlimit-burst burst]
Number of packets to match in a burst. Default: 5 
[--dstlimit-htable-size size]
Number of buckets in the hashtable 
[--dstlimit-htable-max max]
Maximum number of entries in the hashtable 
[--dstlimit-htable-gcinterval interval]
Interval between garbage collection runs of the hashtable (in miliseconds). 
Default is 1000 (1 second). 
[--dstlimit-htable-expire time
After which time are idle entries expired from hashtable (in miliseconds)? 
Default is 1 (10 seconds). 



fuzzy
This module matches a rate limit based on a fuzzy logic controller [FLC]

--lower-limit number
Specifies the lower limit (in packets per second). 
--upper-limit number
Specifies the upper limit (in packets per second). 

__

geoip
Match a packet by its source or destination country.

[!] --src-cc, --source-country country[,country,country,...]
Match packet coming from (one of) the specified country(ies) 
[!] --dst-cc, --destination-country country[,country,country,...]
Match packet going to (one of) the specified country(ies) 
NOTE:
The country is inputed by its ISO3166 code. The only extra files you need 
is a binary db (geoipdb.bin) & its index file (geoipdb.idx). Both files are 
generated from a countries & subnets database with the csv2bin tool, available 
at www.cookinglinux.org/geoip/. Both files MUST also be moved in /var/geoip/ as 
the shared library is statically looking for that pathname (ex.: 
/var/geoip/geoipdb.bin). 

 ___

 
limit
This module matches at a limited rate using a token bucket filter. A rule using 
this extension will match until this limit is reached (unless the `!' flag is 
used). It can be used in combination with the LOG target to give limited 
logging, for example.

--limit rate
Maximum average matching rate: specified as a number, with an optional 
`/second', `/minute', `/hour', or `/day' suffix; the default is 3/hour. 
--limit-burst number
Maximum initial number of packets to match: this number gets recharged by 
one every time the limit specified above is not reached, up to this number; the 
default is 5. 

__
mac

--mac-source [!] address
Match source MAC address. It must be of the form XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX. Note 
that this only makes sense for packets coming from an Ethernet device and 
entering the PREROUTING, FORWARD or INPUT chains. 

_

Ok.

What I need now is your advice how to put the above together into a nice, basic 
shell script.

Dstlimit is ok
but I need to limit Originated IP (DHCP assigned)
for each specific client's IP.

thanks

Darius



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Dynamic WIFI bandwidth management with iptables, netstat, nload, tc - was: ....

[Darius Jack]

Hi,

sorry my friend, but Dialog is an application ported to maemo, you should 
install it first to run (not bash command at all).
With Dialog you can write basic MS DOS-like menu driven interactive shell 
scripts.
Dialog is great development tool for Dummies and high school students, 
integrating shell scripts with some pseudo-GUIs.

Ok.
Another question is how to build basic WIFI bandwidth management application in 
shell script.
What I mean is to incorporate iptables, netstat, nload parsed output
to see a number of WiFi clients, protocols and traffic load, time connected and 
the like and implement wait rules in iptables for each specified WiFi client.

If you find my idea ok, just tell me how to proceed further.
Got the following limit, time limit from IPtables script
http://slackware.asmonet.net/download/rc.firewall


$IPT -A OUTPUT -m limit --limit 3/minute --limit-burst 3 -j LOG \
--log-prefix "OUTPUT packet died: "

http://www.novell.com/communities/node/4995/adjusting-iptables-rule-server-health-monitoring

Got traffic control command tc application and some packet shaper solutions.
Looking for some basic tc shell scriptimplementations like iptables.

Darius

--- On Sun, 3/8/08, John Holmblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: John Holmblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Dynamic iptables firewall NAT IP masquerade shell scripts + 
> dialog - kind request
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> Date: Sunday, 3 August, 2008, 9:59 PM
> Darius,
> 
> it does not appear that the dialog command is included in
> the version of 
> bash (bash2) that can be installed in OS2008. I installed
> bash2 to see 
> if the dialog command is present but it is not as far as I
> have been 
> able to test.
> 
> In principle, I do see your point about how the use of the
> dialog 
> command with other shell scripting could be used for
> iptables config.
> 
> 
> Have you done a www search to see what is out there with
> respect to 
> front end scripts for iptables?
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> John Holmblad
> 
>  
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Darius Jack wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > thanks for your kind help.
> > Frankly speaking, what I mean is Dialog interface to
> iptables, bandwidth managment, firewall, NAT 
> > As dialog is fast, not generating overheads to
> processor and graphics,
> > code is open as a shell script.
> > I just need 1-2 persons to work out a solution.
> > Very simple solution.
> > No compilation, no installation, no porting problems.
> > Just pls tell me what do you think about it.
> > Is Dialog not ok to enter parameters to shell scripts
> running iptables, firewall, NAT, Masquarade ?
> >
> > I am just testing one bandwidth management
> application, but frankly speaking would prefer another shell
> script based on iptables to set priorities.
> >
> > Darius
> >
> > \
> > - On Sat, 2/8/08, John Holmblad
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> From: John Holmblad
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: Dynamic iptables firewall NAT IP
> masquerade shell scripts + dialog - kind request
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> >> Date: Saturday, 2 August, 2008, 10:18 PM
> >> Darius,
> >>
> >> your earlier post led me to research a product
> called
> >> Kmyfirewall which 
> >> is a GUI based front end for iptables that is
> designed for
> >> KDE. I asked 
> >> the develolper if he knew of anyone attempting to
> port the
> >> front end to 
> >> the Internet tabled but he does not know of any
> such
> >> attempt.
> >>
> >> Here also is the sourceforge www page for the
> project:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmyfirewall
> >>
> >> If I understand correctly it sounds like you one
> and
> >> perhaps 2 issues to 
> >> address:
> >>
> >> 1. Traffic Shaping for 802.11 clients to a given
> 802.11 AP
> >> on your network.
> >>
> >> 2. A convenient way to remotely manage your
> network using
> >> the Internet 
> >> Tablet as a management terminal (e.g. using SSH,
> VNC,or
> >> RDP, etc.) 
> >> communicating with your network through the
> Internet,
> >> itself accessed 
> >> from your Internet tablet via Bluetooth/3G,
> Bluetooth/evdo,
> >> or 802.11 to 
> >> a public or private 802.11 Access Point (e.g. hot
> spot).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
>

Re: Thumb and VFP support in Maemo-Builder

[Andrew Zabolotny]

From Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:22:58 -0500
Glen Ditchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I believe they are enabled.  Take a look at
> https://garage.maemo.org/builder/chinook/fribidi_0.10.9-1maemo2/armel.build.log.OK.txt
Oops, indeed. My bad, it seems I was misleaded by the size mismatch
between the .deb file I've built myself and the .deb file built by the
autobuilder. I had the impression the .deb file built by the autobuilder
was substantially larger than my .deb file, but I cannot find this
package now.

>   -mthumb-interwork
> Generate code which supports calling between the ARM and Thumb
> instruction sets. Without this option the two instruction sets cannot
> be reliably used inside one program. The default is
> -mno-thumb-interwork, since slightly larger code is generated when
> -mthumb-interwork is specified.
In my opinion, -mthumb-interwork must be specified for programs and
-mthumb-interwork must be used for libraries. Functions in a program are
never called from other modules, thus they can use pure thumb
instructions. With -mthumb-interwork, as far as I understand, on entry
to all functions it is expected that the CPU is in 32-bit mode, and
then it switches to thumb mode (and returns into 32-bit mode before
returning). Also thumb code should be slower (because it can access
less registers thus more memory accesses), so it should not be used for
performance-critical libraries IMHO, unless CPU instruction cache size
plays an important role (e.g. unless active set size can fit with
-mthumb in the 32k CPU instruction cache, and without it it doesn't
fit).

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Re: USB Networking doesn't work on my N810 (diablo) and Ubuntu Linux 8.04

[Kalle Valo]

"ext Andrea Grandi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 2008/8/4 Aleksandar Stojiljkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Andrea, don't know if following info helps,... acceptable workaround (for
>> maemo pc connectivity over usb) is to use ssh, sshfs and sbrsh over wlan.
>> Works nice from Eclipse esbox.
>> Best Regards,
>> Aleksandar
>
> ssh over wlan should work without problems the only problem is
> that is very very slow, compared with usb-networking :(

WLAN shouln't be that slow. Sure, theoretically WLAN is slower than
USB networking, but in practise it should be fast enough for ssh use.
Try disabling WLAN Power Save Mode, because it creates quite a lot of
latency. The amount of latency varies with your AP settings (beacon
interval, DTIM), though.

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Re: Thumb and VFP support in Maemo-Builder

[Glen Ditchfield]

Andrew Zabolotny wrote:
> As far as I understand, enabling these DEB_BUILD_OPTION's in the
> builder should not affect older packages that do not have support for
> thumb and/or vfp. So, maybe it would make sense to enable these
> options in maemo builder?

I believe they are enabled.  Take a look at
https://garage.maemo.org/builder/chinook/fribidi_0.10.9-1maemo2/armel.build.log.OK.txt
https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/fribidi_0.10.9-1maemo2/armel.build.log.OK.txt

Near the top, they have lines saying
DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="maemo-launcher,thumb,vfp,parallel=4"

I have a question about how to support "thumb".  The GCC 3.4.6 manual,
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/ARM-Options.html#ARM-Options,
says the compiler supports two thumb flags:

  -mthumb-interwork
Generate code which supports calling between the ARM and Thumb instruction
sets. Without this option the two instruction sets cannot be reliably used
inside one program. The default is -mno-thumb-interwork, since slightly
larger code is generated when -mthumb-interwork is specified. 

  -mthumb
Generate code for the 16-bit Thumb instruction set. The default is to use
the 32-bit ARM instruction set. 

The example in the policy document v0.23 only uses -mthumb.  Should we
use -mthumb-interwork?  Or should we use both? 

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Re: Introduction to Maemo hacking on Maemo-Summit?

[Quim Gil]

Hi,

ext Urivan Saaib wrote:
> It is an excellent idea, but please:
> 
> - Share the slides, and
> - If possible, plan on recording/broadcasting the sessions.

Sure, but even before that please:

- Confirm that this workshop will happen. Only from Nokia there will be
enough people to make it happen and any help from actual application
developers will be helpful as well, but Kate needs to take the drive and
commit.

- Find the right timing at
https://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2008#Saturday_20 . The schedule for
Saturday has few slots left and they can be recombined in order to make
this fit in a track/room. But you need to define how long this will
take: 1h? 2h? More?

- See also
https://wiki.maemo.org/Talk:Maemo_Summit_2008#Comments_on_the_current_agenda
&
https://wiki.maemo.org/Talk:Maemo_Summit_2008#Introduction_to_Maemo_hacking.3F


Thanks!

> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Urivan Flores
> 
> ==Original message text===
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 3:00:51 PDT Simon Budig wrote:
> 
> Kate Alhola ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> to use maemo SDK and then hands on workshop . I have
>> slide set for the presentation but for hands on it would be usefull
>> to have some other  volunteers  helping and answering questions.
> 
> I volunteer. I have some experience using various aspects of Hildon and
> GTK+, could answer questions about rendering with cairo. Digging into
> dbus a tiny bit at the moment - but probably only to a level that it
> solves my current problem  :)
> 
> Bye,
> Simon
> 

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Re: USB Networking doesn't work on my N810 (diablo) and Ubuntu Linux 8.04

[Andrea Grandi]

Hi,

2008/8/4 Aleksandar Stojiljkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hello,
> Andrea, don't know if following info helps,... acceptable workaround (for
> maemo pc connectivity over usb) is to use ssh, sshfs and sbrsh over wlan.
> Works nice from Eclipse esbox.
> Best Regards,
> Aleksandar

ssh over wlan should work without problems the only problem is
that is very very slow, compared with usb-networking :(

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RE: USB Networking doesn't work on my N810 (diablo) and Ubuntu Linux 8.04

[Aleksandar Stojiljkovic]

Hello,
Andrea, don't know if following info helps,... acceptable workaround (for maemo 
pc connectivity over usb) is to use ssh, sshfs and sbrsh over wlan. Works nice 
from Eclipse esbox.
Best Regards,
Aleksandar


> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:09:51 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: USB Networking doesn't work on my N810 (diablo) and Ubuntu Linux 
> 8.04
> CC: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> 
> Maybe an Ubuntu bug? What version of Debian/Ubuntu are using "Maemo PC
> Connectivity" developers?
> 
> 2008/8/1 Aleksandar Stojiljkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hello,
> > I have exactly the same problem, with Ubuntu 8.04 on IBM T61p,... able to
> > access N810 memory card from the host, but not able to ping it...
> >
> > FATAL: Error inserting g_ether
> > (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget/g_ether.ko): No
> > such device
> >
> > Wonder which linux distribution to use to be able to connect to maemo device
> > via sbrsh or ssh? Have You heard some success story, maybe debian?
> > Best Regards,
> > Aleksandar
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:14:56 +0200
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> >> Subject: Re: USB Networking doesn't work on my N810 (diablo) and Ubuntu
> >> Linux 8.04
> >>
> >> Any other suggestion? I still have the problem :(
> >>
> >> 2008/7/21 Andrea Grandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I've N810 (diablo release) and I'm following these instruction to
> >> > install maemo-pc-connectivity:
> >> > http://maemo.org/development/documentation/pc_connectivity/
> >> > I've installed all required software on the tablet and on my Ubuntu
> >> > PC, but I cannot use the USB networking.
> >> >
> >> > When I try to do this on my PC, I get these errors:
> >> >
> >> > 1) I bring up usb0 on tablet using the control panel applet
> >> >
> >> > 2) I connect the usb cable to both PC and tablet
> >> >
> >> > 3) I do this:
> >> >
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/andy80# ifup usb0
> >> > usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> >> > SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
> >> > usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> >> > SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
> >> > SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
> >> > usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> >> > usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> >> > Failed to bring up usb0.
> >> >
> >> > The device should be ok: g_ether module is loaded and usb0 interface
> >> > (with ip 192.168.2.15) is up.
> >> > I think the problem is my Ubuntu, because if I try to bring up the
> >> > same module, I get this error:
> >> >
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/andy80# modprobe g_ether
> >> > FATAL: Error inserting g_ether
> >> > (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget/g_ether.ko):
> >> > No such device
> >> >
> >> > How can I fix it? Thanks for your help!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Andrea Grandi
> >> > email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
> >> > website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: Thumb and VFP support in Maemo-Builder

[Marcin Juszkiewicz]

On Monday 04 of August 2008 12:02:38 Andrew Zabolotny wrote:

> vfp: Whether to enable compilation with the ARM vfp (limited floating
> point) instruction set [...] This option is used only when building a
> package for a CPU architecture supporting vfp (770 doesn’t, later
> devices do).

> Many of the packages I've uploaded to extras-builder so far support
> both thumb and parallel= options, and while parallel is just a matter
> of compilation speed (and it depends of the hardware builder runs
> on), the thumb options is definitely a Good Thing to have, because it
> makes the executables smaller by 20-30% in my measurements.

And vfp can also make some binaries smaller (heavy floating point for 
example) and it also make them faster.


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Thumb and VFP support in Maemo-Builder

[Andrew Zabolotny]

Hello!

Reading maemo-policy.pdf, page 15 (sorry for the long quote, but it's
important):

<<>>

Many of the packages I've uploaded to extras-builder so far support
both thumb and parallel= options, and while parallel is just a matter
of compilation speed (and it depends of the hardware builder runs on),
the thumb options is definitely a Good Thing to have, because it makes
the executables smaller by 20-30% in my measurements.

As far as I understand, enabling these DEB_BUILD_OPTION's in the
builder should not affect older packages that do not have support for
thumb and/or vfp. So, maybe it would make sense to enable these
options in maemo builder?

-- 
Greetings,
   Andrew


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How to get my Maemo Application on the Network

[Arvind1 K]

Hi All,

I've written an application that tries to find out other resources based 
on some criteria in the same network.
These resources can be Servers/Renderers etc.

The GUI comes up but the broadcast packets aren't being send across the 
network. Scratchbox shows correctly the assigned ipaddress. However I'm 
not able to find if the maemo is connected to the network.

Please let me know what all packages I should install so that I can get my 
application on network. There aren't any applications in the connection 
manager tab as of now.

Regards
Arvind 
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