Re: Community widgets for Fremantle
On Saturday 26 September 2009 15:00:33 Thomas Perl wrote: > I'd rather do without the scrolling if possible. Here's my mock-up and the > accompanying Python script that you can use to try it out: I like the approach. Good demo! I am not sure about the particular colours: it seems to be missing a pure white, pure black and a good strong yellow (and a turquiose and a pink would be useful). On the other hand some of the colours look almost identical on the screen (particularly 2 of the 3 greens and 2 of the 3 reds -- and who needs 6 orangey-browns?). If you are going to have a limited selection, I think they need to be strongly contrasting, not shades of similar colours. My use case is to associate the colours with different PIM categories (used for contacts, events, tasks, etc.) so people want to have a lot of contrast. Graham ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo at SFD
Andre Klapper pisze: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag, den 24.09.2009, 19:14 +0200 schrieb Damian Piotr > Melniczuk: >> my name is Damian Melniczuk and I'm president of AASOC - student >> organisation which main purpose is to promote FLOSS. We are organising >> celebration of SFD in Wroclaw in Poland. I think, it will be good idea >> to promote Maemo at this event. So, we are looking for developer or user >> who could actively participate at SFD in Wroclaw which will be >> celebrated at 3rd October. >> Cheers! > > As you sent this message to quite a few open source projects out there > (also smaller ones) I wonder what you expect and/or plan? A talk by such > a developer or user? Or are there workshops? When somebody is interested we talk with him, and we choose best option among lectures, seminars and workshops. > Is there a webpage listing what you plan to organize for SFD (which > means "Software Freedom Day" as I found out after googling)? > It will be. We hove some technical problems now. > Just curious, > andre No problem, I'm here to answer any questions :) Damian ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Debmaster: Help for PyMaemo dependency hell on Fremantle?
On Sep 26, 2009, at 9:27, Thomas Waelti wrote: > Unfrtunatelely, that info about the package version never arrived in > the repository or package viewer. So I guess there must be a bug > somewhere in my package files. There is, it's in the changelog. > However, looking at the files in e.g. > https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/mclock_0.6.4-1/ > doesn't reveal any problem. The canonical place for the version string is in your changelog - debian tools look for that string and assign the version based on that. Here's the first line of your changelog for verion 0.6.4: mclock (0.6.4) stable; urgency=low As you can see there is no -1 after the version number. Also, the following word after the version in parentheses is "stable", but it really should be "unstable" since this signifies which debian repository this package is destined for. Of course, Maemo is not debian, so this is irrelevant at this point in time. > Can you help me track that bug down? Yes, of course. :-) Important to note that py2deb is a community tool, not a maemo tool, nor even a debian tool. So direct support for py2deb will have to come from the developer, but I'm happy to look at the code to check for bugs. > It would not only help me, but all people who plan to use py2deb for > their packaging. I recommend using the tools recommended by debian and Maemo[0], specifically dh_make. The simple reason I recommend dh_make is that I have more experience with that then py2deb and I know that dh_make is well tested and used extensively in debian. > I will gladly send you the files privately in a separate email if > this helps. Not necessary - I have a garage login. ;-) Best regardds, Jeremiah 0. http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging%2C_Deploying_and_Distributing ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Community widgets for Fremantle
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Thomas Perl wrote: > 2009/9/26 Cornelius Hald : > > So how about a dialog that just shows n rows with 3 to 4 colors in each > > row. Those rows are in a panable area so it's easy to scroll them. Those > > colors are taken from a palette and (maybe) colors that have been > > selected in the advanced dialog are appended at the top or bottom of > > that list. Maybe separated by some kind of separator. > 8< --- > > When clicking on of those color buttons a dialog like this opens: > > http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/color_chooser_mock.png > > Probably the buttons/colors should be bigger or there should be 4 in a > > row. As I said, just a very quick mockup. Those buttons are pannable, so > > there are more colors available. > > I'd rather do without the scrolling if possible. Here's my mock-up and the > accompanying Python script that you can use to try it out: > > http://thpinfo.com/2009/maemo/colorchooser.png > > http://thpinfo.com/2009/maemo/colorchooser.py > yes, yes, yes, yes, yes > > > Thomas > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Community widgets for Fremantle
2009/9/26 Cornelius Hald : > So how about a dialog that just shows n rows with 3 to 4 colors in each > row. Those rows are in a panable area so it's easy to scroll them. Those > colors are taken from a palette and (maybe) colors that have been > selected in the advanced dialog are appended at the top or bottom of > that list. Maybe separated by some kind of separator. 8< --- > When clicking on of those color buttons a dialog like this opens: > http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/color_chooser_mock.png > Probably the buttons/colors should be bigger or there should be 4 in a > row. As I said, just a very quick mockup. Those buttons are pannable, so > there are more colors available. I'd rather do without the scrolling if possible. Here's my mock-up and the accompanying Python script that you can use to try it out: http://thpinfo.com/2009/maemo/colorchooser.png http://thpinfo.com/2009/maemo/colorchooser.py Thomas ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Community widgets for Fremantle
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 22:55 +0200, Thomas Perl wrote: > Depending on the use case, having a nice finger-friendly color palette > could be *much* better than letting the user fine-tune the colors. I think > most color-choosing tasks (e.g. in Conboy) are not about getting some > really specific shade of green, but just getting a "cute" color that happens > to be green. A nice palette with beautiful colors can help here. That's a very good point. > I propose a dialog with finger-usable buttons that just has the colors of the > Tango Color Palette in it: > > http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines Yes, they are really nice. > Give the users less choice and more sane defaults ;) You can always add > that "Advanced" button with a hex entry field for the nerds later on. Also a very good point. It's probably good to put this into a sub dialog - it would fit to the Fremantle philosophy. So how about a dialog that just shows n rows with 3 to 4 colors in each row. Those rows are in a panable area so it's easy to scroll them. Those colors are taken from a palette and (maybe) colors that have been selected in the advanced dialog are appended at the top or bottom of that list. Maybe separated by some kind of separator. I think that would look nice and it should be quite usable. To try that I did two quick mockups (ugly as usual). First, the color button: http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/color_button_mock.png Instead of "Use Cust" imaging labels like "Text", "Links", "Background" :) When clicking on of those color buttons a dialog like this opens: http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/color_chooser_mock.png Probably the buttons/colors should be bigger or there should be 4 in a row. As I said, just a very quick mockup. Those buttons are pannable, so there are more colors available. When clicking the "Advanced" button a dialog opens which has a color wheel or RGB sliders or something like that. Thanks for your input Thomas! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Debmaster: Help for PyMaemo dependency hell on Fremantle?
>> The second issue seems to be a bug somewhere between py2deb, >> autobuilder and the uploader to the repos: the build number isn't >> recognized by the repo loader. > > By "build number" do you mean package version? Yes, I mean package version, sorry for the wrong terminology. > Just to clarify things, the software has a version, the debian > packaging has a version, and the maemo packging has a version. I > know it is confusing, but lets take a look at a package name: This I knew, and that's what confused me: When preparing my package for upload, I increased my package version number, then prepared the .dsc. and .changes etc. using py2deb. If we look at the email from the autobuilder, it seems that it properly recognized this in the uploaded files (or at least my filenames reflect it :-): My second package version of the initial fremantle version of mclock: > [2009-09-21 20:35:21] Processing package mclock 0.6.0-2. Uploader: twaelti, > builder: builder1 > [2009-09-21 20:35:34] Building mclock 0.6.0-2 for target > 'maemo-fremantle-i386-extras-devel' > [2009-09-21 20:36:14] OK > [2009-09-21 20:36:21] Signing build results > [2009-09-21 20:36:27] mclock 0.6.0-2 has been queued for loading into > fremantle extras-devel repository > [2009-09-21 20:36:27] You can find more info about this build here: > https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/mclock_0.6.0-2/ My first package version of the fifth minor revision of the fremantle version of mclock: > [2009-09-24 22:20:17] Processing package mclock 0.6.4-1. Uploader: twaelti, > builder: builder1 > [2009-09-24 22:20:24] Building mclock 0.6.4-1 for target > 'maemo-fremantle-i386-extras-devel' > [2009-09-24 22:21:12] OK > [2009-09-24 22:21:19] Signing build results > [2009-09-24 22:21:22] mclock 0.6.4-1 has been queued for loading into > fremantle extras-devel repository > [2009-09-24 22:21:22] You can find more info about this build here: > https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/mclock_0.6.4-1/ Unfrtunatelely, that info about the package version never arrived in the repository or package viewer. So I guess there must be a bug somewhere in my package files. However, looking at the files in e.g. https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/mclock_0.6.4-1/ doesn't reveal any problem. Can you help me track that bug down? It would not only help me, but all people who plan to use py2deb for their packaging. I will gladly send you the files privately in a separate email if this helps. Best regards -Tom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
