Please delete some of my packages

2011-03-07 Thread Thomas Maass
Hi!
I have made some packages for fremantle.
However I made some mistakes in the first
versions. There is some carbage in the extras-
devel repo now. Can the admins please delete the
following package folders:
cups
cups-pdf
ghostscript
I can reupp fixed packages then with a smaller
package version number.

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Re: Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 18:09, Nils Faerber
 wrote:
>
> I would definitely like to be prepared. The pace at which Nokia is doing
> decisions with very long lasting consequences is frightening. At the
> moment I would not deny any possibility that they could pull the plug
> with very short notice time. I do not believe that they will do so any
> time soon, but I fear that we have to take the possibility that they
> could do it into account.

As Andre said:

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2011-February/004677.html

> In this sense I would also very much like to see that the community
> urges Nokia to free as much stuff as possible of Maemo5 (since it is
> of no direct commercial value for them anymore anyway) so that
> the platform can get a live on its own.

The Council approached Nokia about this:

http://maemo.org/community/council/state_of_maemo-q12011-1/

Quim was going to speak to some people in Helsinki last week. Given
it's Monday and he's 8 hours behind Europe, I haven't had a chance to
catch up with him yet.

Cheers,

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Re: Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Nils Faerber
Am 07.03.2011 18:32, schrieb Robin Burchell:
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
>> Will Maemo.org and its infrastructure be online for the foreseeable future?
>> I have a few Maemo apps (GTK-only) that I'm in the process of developing,
>> but if maemo.org and its repositories are going to be taken offline I don't
>> see a need to continue development.
> I don't see any signs that maemo.org will close down for the time
> being. There's still interest in the platform and so far no word on
> whether there are to be any change in Nokia's funding maemo.org. I do
> believe that there has been some talk about looking into alternatives
> for if/when that happens though.

Just to throw in some Cents from my point of view...

I would definitely like to be prepared. The pace at which Nokia is doing
decisions with very long lasting consequences is frightening. At the
moment I would not deny any possibility that they could pull the plug
with very short notice time. I do not believe that they will do so any
time soon, but I fear that we have to take the possibility that they
could do it into account.

In this sense we should not yet seek out for new governance, hosting,
financing, etc. But we should be prepared for the day the announcement
hits us. It would be great to have something like the Qt community
contract in place, i.e. a formal agreement with Nokia what would happen
with Maemo once they should decide against it. I am just afraid that we
are now in a very bad negotiating position... In this sense I would also
very much like to see that the community urges Nokia to free as much
stuff as possible of Maemo5 (since it is of no direct commercial value
for them anymore anyway) so that the platform can get a live on its own.

And yes, I think this kind of discussion is also worth being spread to
the developer list since the stability and availability of the platform
itself is something that every developer is/should be concerned about.

> Robin Burchell
Cheers
  nils

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Re: {CORRECTIONS] Re: Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth

Randall Arnold on 03/07/2011 11:49 AM wrote:

Let's keep the conversations rooted in facts, please.  There's enough noise 
already.


Someone needs to do fire control with the media then. I do not keep up 
with every posting @ nokia.com or every Nokia employee's blog.


I realize this has gone off the deep end of Off-Topic for this list, so 
I'll end the thread here. I'll be happy to continue it on the community 
list or privately.

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{CORRECTIONS] Re: Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Randall Arnold





> - Original message - 
> From: "Michael Cronenworth‎" 
> To: "maemo-developers@maemo.org‎" 
> Subject: Where do we go now?
> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:26:02 -0600
> 
> 
>Nokia has backed out of MeeGo and today they have backed out of QT. 
> This leaves the Maemo distribution solely in the hands of the 
> community. I would still like to contribute to Maemo (or MeeGo if a 
> build is released), but I have some concerns.
> 
> Will Maemo.org and its infrastructure be online for the foreseeable 
> future? I have a few Maemo apps (GTK-only) that I'm in the process of 
> developing, but if maemo.org and its repositories are going to be 
> taken offline I don't see a need to continue development.
> 
> What about the Maemo Council? Is it still relevant?
> 
> Where's the best place to study about the community update 
> repositories? If Maemo.org dies, there needs to be a web site to 
> replace it to join together the Maemo community.
> 
> 
> P.S. I'm disappointed in Nokia for firing all of the Maemo/MeeGo crew 
> and going a different direction. Hopefully those people find jobs 
> soon. If any of you are still subscribed to this mailing list - Thank 
> you for developing Maemo. With the right marketing, Maemo would have 
> been just as big as any other mobile OS.

Nokia has not backed out of Qt.

Nokia has not fired all of the Maemo/MeeGo crew.

Let's keep the conversations rooted in facts, please.  There's enough noise 
already.

Randy

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Re: Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Andre Klapper
[Sidenote: Entire posting looks way more suited for maemo-community@
than maemo-developers@.]

On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 11:26 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Nokia has backed out of MeeGo and today they have backed out of QT.

Ah, the joy of subjective interpretations expressed as "facts".

> Will Maemo.org and its infrastructure be online for the foreseeable 
> future? I have a few Maemo apps (GTK-only) that I'm in the process of 
> developing, but if maemo.org and its repositories are going to be taken 
> offline I don't see a need to continue development.

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2011-February/004677.html

> Where's the best place to study about the community update repositories? 

http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU and #maemo-ssu on freenode IRC.

> P.S. I'm disappointed in Nokia for firing all of the Maemo/MeeGo crew 

[citation needed]

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Re: Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi,

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
> Nokia has backed out of MeeGo and today they have backed out of QT. This
> leaves the Maemo distribution solely in the hands of the community.

Can you please explain how Nokia's decision to sell off handling of
Qt's commercial licensing relates to Maemo (or MeeGo) in any way?

Please make sure you have read the actual source, not the hyperbolic
headlines from the media
(http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/07/nokia-and-digia-working-together/)

> Will Maemo.org and its infrastructure be online for the foreseeable future?
> I have a few Maemo apps (GTK-only) that I'm in the process of developing,
> but if maemo.org and its repositories are going to be taken offline I don't
> see a need to continue development.

I don't see any signs that maemo.org will close down for the time
being. There's still interest in the platform and so far no word on
whether there are to be any change in Nokia's funding maemo.org. I do
believe that there has been some talk about looking into alternatives
for if/when that happens though.


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Re: Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth

Felipe Crochik on 03/07/2011 11:30 AM wrote:

How did they back out of Qt today?


http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/03/07/1337211/Nokia-Sells-Qt
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Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Nokia has backed out of MeeGo and today they have backed out of QT. This 
leaves the Maemo distribution solely in the hands of the community. I 
would still like to contribute to Maemo (or MeeGo if a build is 
released), but I have some concerns.


Will Maemo.org and its infrastructure be online for the foreseeable 
future? I have a few Maemo apps (GTK-only) that I'm in the process of 
developing, but if maemo.org and its repositories are going to be taken 
offline I don't see a need to continue development.


What about the Maemo Council? Is it still relevant?

Where's the best place to study about the community update repositories? 
If Maemo.org dies, there needs to be a web site to replace it to join 
together the Maemo community.



P.S. I'm disappointed in Nokia for firing all of the Maemo/MeeGo crew 
and going a different direction. Hopefully those people find jobs soon. 
If any of you are still subscribed to this mailing list - Thank you for 
developing Maemo. With the right marketing, Maemo would have been just 
as big as any other mobile OS.

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Re: Kill connection dialog

2011-03-07 Thread Dominik Bartenstein

Hi Thomas,

d-feet is a nice tool! Unfortunately com.nokia.osso_connectivity_ui does 
not provide any functions/properties via dbus.


Thanks,
Dominik

On 03/07/2011 12:30 AM, Thomas Perl wrote:

Hi Dominik,

2011/3/6 Dominik Bartenstein:

The strategy I have implemented is as follows:
When QNetworkSession's open()-method is called a QTimer with 2 minutes is
started. When QNetworkSessions's opened-SIGNAL is emitted (i.e. connection
was successfully established) the timer is stopped. In the
worst-case-scenario the 'connectivity-ui-conndlgs'-processes are killed
every 2 minutes. Would be nice if there was a possibilty to communicate with
the 'connectivity-ui-conndlgs' via dbus. That's not possible, is it?


I'm not sure if there is a D-Bus API, but you could use a tool like
d-feet[1] to examine the processes and objects connected to D-Bus and
what functions/properties they provide.

HTH.
Thomas

[1] http://live.gnome.org/DFeet



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