Re: Contribution code, ...
Frank, On 1/21/08, Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I called letstalk.com to ask when the web site might be ready. The person assisting me could not provide and answer but instead offered to place my order at the correct discounted price. I tried it and it worked like this. Place the order at full price. In a few hours a supervisor will override the price. This worked out and now I have my N810. Thanks for working this out. I assume this is the US store? I tried calling them and they wanted to know how much my discount should be (which was _really_ odd, I could have said the device was free), I told them I did not know what the discount balance was supposed to be. So they offered 75 dollars off, which I thought was too low in light of our European friends picking them up for 99 euro. They said they could do no better, so I gave up. How much did you tell them it should be and who did you talk to? I would like to talk to the same supervisor so the transactions is easy. Thanks to all responsible. Now if you will excuse me, I have an application to port. :) Frank On Jan 16, 2008 12:00 PM, Scott Bambrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just placed my order on the Canadian site as well. Thanks Quim and Nokia. Scott Mike Morrison wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 10:03 PM, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Michael Wiktowy wrote: Since Canada was not on the initial list of countries to get the N810 from, is there something that needs to be done by the code recipient to switch the code over from the US to Canada or should the US code work once the Canadian site is updated? Since Canada joined late with the best of the intentions, they will deal with the cases one by one no matter what country your code belongs to (as far as you have a real code and you provide a Canadian delivery address). Quim I just placed my order with the Canadian site, discount code and all (it came to $175 with shipping taxes)! Thank you Quim and Nokia! Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Contribution code, ...
Frank, On 1/21/08, Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US Store. I told them the discount code was 99 euros, or $145. I spoke with Chris, I never found out the supervisor's name. So you are saying that the device cost before shipping should be $145 dollars. So the balance for the code should be about 335.00? That is what the person I spoke with asked about several times. I will try that and see what happens. Frank On Jan 21, 2008 12:42 PM, John Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, On 1/21/08, Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I called letstalk.com to ask when the web site might be ready. The person assisting me could not provide and answer but instead offered to place my order at the correct discounted price. I tried it and it worked like this. Place the order at full price. In a few hours a supervisor will override the price. This worked out and now I have my N810. Thanks for working this out. I assume this is the US store? I tried calling them and they wanted to know how much my discount should be (which was _really_ odd, I could have said the device was free), I told them I did not know what the discount balance was supposed to be. So they offered 75 dollars off, which I thought was too low in light of our European friends picking them up for 99 euro. They said they could do no better, so I gave up. How much did you tell them it should be and who did you talk to? I would like to talk to the same supervisor so the transactions is easy. Thanks to all responsible. Now if you will excuse me, I have an application to port. :) Frank On Jan 16, 2008 12:00 PM, Scott Bambrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just placed my order on the Canadian site as well. Thanks Quim and Nokia. Scott Mike Morrison wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 10:03 PM, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Michael Wiktowy wrote: Since Canada was not on the initial list of countries to get the N810 from, is there something that needs to be done by the code recipient to switch the code over from the US to Canada or should the US code work once the Canadian site is updated? Since Canada joined late with the best of the intentions, they will deal with the cases one by one no matter what country your code belongs to (as far as you have a real code and you provide a Canadian delivery address). Quim I just placed my order with the Canadian site, discount code and all (it came to $175 with shipping taxes)! Thank you Quim and Nokia! Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
The gift certificate has no balance
Nokia, N810 is in stock but I am still having this problem. I called the phone number, but they said the gift certificate had no balance and the best they could do was $75.00 off. -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: The gift certificate has no balance
On 1/11/08, Adilson Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Mitchell escreveu: Nokia, N810 is in stock but I am still having this problem. I called the phone number, but they said the gift certificate had no balance and the best they could do was $75.00 off. I believe the problem is the same that happened in Europe: the codes took a few days to start working after the notice. Probably. I am trying to stay a happy camper and continue to love our Nokia folks working Maemo (its been hard Quim!). I am truly thankful, but worn a tad. Especially since I get the impression that Nokia is more of a multi-headed hydra than I first thought, which is really too bad. This is one reason I will not spend any money with IBM. They are so multi-headed they make life very hard on their well paying customers. []s Adilson. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHh9GG2cB5Bt7H7YARAg6CAJ9pmXJf8meJ0Me5vfcnt+u9yzurawCeJsVZ G97e329uVyrGT5kxuc6tjfE= =DhKm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
N810 USA Availability
Nokia, The N810 is available today at letstalk.com but they do not accept my discount code. Is there another place I should go to purchase? -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Product roadmap
On 1/9/08, Jeffrey Barish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am distressed that Nokia has not provided a product roadmap to developers. I learned at CES that Nokia plans to discontinue the N800 soon in favor of the N810. The application that I am developing will, of course, run on the N810, but the N810 is now about twice the price of the N800 (on the street) and is inherently more expensive because of the GPS and the keyboard. An application that does not require those features incurs a significant cost burden when run on the N810. Why would Nokia abandon an attractive price point when there clearly are applications that do not require the additional features of the N810? It would be helpful for Nokia to provide a product roadmap so that developers can assess whether a suitable platform will still be shipping at the time their development is completed. Agreed. I have thought this exact thing when the 770 was so quickly dropped. Why does Nokia have such problems with communicating with the community that has brought it so much? -- Jeffrey Barish ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Contribution code, ...
Klaus, On 1/8/08, Klaus Rotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Armin M. Warda schrieb: Hi, the german Nokia Online-Shop finally accepted my discount code and gave me a 100% discount. I only have to pay for shipping, regular is 5 euros, express is 13 euros. Shit (sorry to say that)! The same happened here. My code is accepted with 100% discount. What should I do? Cancel the oder? Do I loose then my code? (It is already accepted) Or should I go on and maybe the loose my code? (If the oder is canceled by Nokia?) I wish I knew. Nokia are you ever going to chime in on this thing or are we left hanging? worried, -Klaus ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 Maemo Program/USA Store
Nokia Folks, I would really appreciate some kind of response or information from Nokia for the folks in the US. The recent N810 maemo program instructions email was not clear about us and I am concerned that with what appears to be poor device availability and poor Nokia to developer community communication that I may loose my chance at getting a device and thus being able to contribute to the platform. My project idea _really_ needs a real device for development. Sadly, I feel something is broken in this process and is making things needlessly confused and frustrating. I sincerely hope for everyone involved that things get better shortly as I am struggling to continue to be excited about the platform with the way things are going. -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
N810 Maemo Program/USA Store
All, So, just so I am clear. Will there be a USA based store that will accept a discount code or not? -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: problems with the chinook repository
On 12/19/07, Mario Sanchez Prada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario Sánchez Prada escribió: harini satyanarayanan escribió: Hi, I am trying to set up the maemo 4.0 chinook on ubuntu. but the installer script is not able to connect to the repository to get the updates, It throws a gateway time out error, is the repository down? I am trying to setup the telepathy/rtcomm environment in it and every time I try to install any library from the repository either it takes a long time or it times out. Can someone please help me? I've the same problem with that repo (under repository.maemo.org): can't connect. I guess the respository is down. I hope somebody fix it soon. Does anybody know something about this topic? I can load repository.maemo.org very slowly. I can not load http://repository.maemo.org/stable/chinook. I receive the following error message (HTML stripped): Gateway Timeout - In read Gateway Timeout The proxy server did not receive a timely response from the upstream server. Reference #1.7d80e08.1198088255.b744826 I would guess a web/proxy server is down or maybe a network. Maybe the system admins need a hand. Thanks in advance. Mario ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Nokia Store/Nseries Store
All, Heads up! Buying from the Nseries site is different than buying from the Nokia site. The Nseries site offers no place to put a discount coden during the purchase process! -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
N810/Online North America Store
All, The N810 can now be ordered although it is not in stock and shows back ordered until the 19th. I was hoping to place my order so it would be shipped as soon as it was available but I went through the process until confirmation of the purchase and there was not a place to put my discount code. Will there be another method of purchase or is there something I missed? Thanks in advance. -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Application Icon Broken
Tilman, That did it! Thank you! Sounds like an update for the developer documentation. All, How does one go about updating the developer documentation? On 11/30/07, Tilman Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor Does this help? Tilman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHT93q9ZPu6Yae8lkRAto4AJ45f+b+fPUIftH5n6Go/EUnMnnbLACeNJ3+ dbat1BhECaSTIgVkoq6MKuE= =imYR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Application Icon Broken
All, I am having trouble getting my test application to show an icon in the menu in the chinook SDK. I get the following error and the application has the default icon: hildon-desktop[12021]: GLIB WARNING ** default - Error loading icon 'hello_icon_40x40': Icon 'hello_icon_40x40' not present in theme http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7567/brokeniconzk7.jpg I have the following in my desktop file and have the following in /usr/share/icons/ [sbox-CHINOOK_X86: ~] cat /usr/share/applications/hildon/maemo_hello.desktop [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0.0 Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Hello PyMaemo! Exec=/usr/bin/maemo_hello.py Icon=hello_icon_40x40 Type=Application X-Osso-Service=maemo_hellopy X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable [sbox-CHINOOK_X86: ~] ls -la /usr/share/icons/hicolor/40x40/hildon/hello_icon_40x40.png -rw-r--r-- 1 john john 485 Nov 29 17:49 /usr/share/icons/hicolor/40x40/hildon/hello_icon_40x40.png For grins I copied the icon to all of the directories that contained icons for another desktop file and restarted the hildon desktop between each copy to see if it was getting the icons from a particular directory. Same error each time and still no icon. Any ideas what I am doing wrong? -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: web based local application GUIs
Jesse, Not trying to throw stop energy into the mix, just reflecting on some of your points. You did ask for comments. So here are a few. :-) On 11/26/07, Jesse Guardiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/26/07, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On demand sounds great in theory, but let's think about it for a second: How do you start on-demand a web app? (HTTPD daemon) How do you play the next track when the current track finishes playing? (Kagu daemon, or FastCGI Kagu daemon + HTTPD daemon) Yes, that's the intrinsic problem of using an http-based approach. You rely on the http daemon being nice. You gain a lot from having an HTTP daemon though. You gain a consistent GUI (html + browser) and a common development methodology (web application development) that many programmers are already intimately familiar with. I would have to disagree on the consistency point. I spent three years doing n-tier database applications development with web based frontends, and getting a consistent look and feel (let alone functionality) across multiple OS/browser platforms can be _very_ difficult. Especially with all of the various security functions that users employ to protect themselves from nefarious scripts. In the end we gave up and targeted Windows only. I was very sad but we spent a _huge_ number of man hours trying to make it work. You also gain the ability to use a high level language for GUI work while still having a very fast startup time (theoretically, I haven't tried it yet). While I agree with you for the majority of processors out there (1GHz or faster with lots of memory) the Nokia tablets are not so good in comparison at client side web application execution (think Web 2.0 or tons of JavaScript). Gmail with AJAX is pretty hard to use on my N800 (I have since given up), maybe it will be doable on my N810. You gain the ability to use CSS for application theming. You also gain portability. No more wondering why the strange PyGtk Hildonization hack you had to do back in Bora no longer works in Chinook. In fact, you no longer care if you're on chinook, bora, gregale, or the internet at large. It doesn't matter. All you need is a web server and a web browser and you're good to go. I have read that GTK portability is good, and in my limited experience was good across Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. This is one of the reasons I have chosen it for the applications I am working on. Is the problem you are experiencing a function of the advanced interface work you are doing or is it truly a problem with the GTK/Hildon environment changing? Maybe with some other developers working on that problem the need for an n-tier application structure will go away? Kagu is used very similar to a daemon. It runs as long as you're playing music. And if that's all you use an n800 for then it's always running. It might even be in the background if you're taking notes or browsing the web. The difference is that it has a GUI right now. I'd like to make that portion optional to save some memory/CPU when you aren't using it. I'd also like to make startup time faster, and I'd like to make a web frontend for it. Do you intend on having the server portion of your app on some other system image (machine or OS, we live in a virtualized world now) other than the client? If so, that sounds good. If not, I would not want all the over head of all those layers for an application on a Nokia tablet. I would guess that you would have so many pieces moving in that equation that playing music would suffer. I have to be honest with you, your intention of making a web frontend for Kagu seems a bit at odds with some of your stated funtions for the application: Kagu is a media player with a finger optimized UI with kinetic scrolling (aka inertial scrolling) written for Python 2.5 and greater. The finger optimized UI with kinetic scrolling is what drew me to your application. A web GUI would have neither of these features. It really sounds like you are wanting to take the application in a whole new direction , or maybe even totally change the nature of the application. If so, then maybe your client server vision for the application is no longer appropriate for the Nokia tablet (well, the client portion might be great if someone is near a fat network). Then you have to make sure that it will have 0% CPU residency, otherwise you'll be stealing playback time from your use-case. And you'll be taking memory no matter what, but hopefully not too much. Yes. I've already written Kagu using pygame. I've had to deal with CPU utilization and playback more than I'd like to admit. It would be significantly easier to handle without a GUI because I wouldn't have to worry about maintaining a consistent frame rate in pygame at the same time. Also, if you choose this approach, it is worth mentioning it in the release notes of your application, so that users
Re: N810 availability?
FYI to US based folks (maybe others too?). The Nokia Nseries website (http://www.nseries.com) is now taking email addresses for availability notification. -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
