Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Flash player 9
Swfdec YuoTube support annunced :) http://www.advogato.org/person/company/diary.html?start=34 Porting this to maemo will be a good thing Massimo 2007/1/19, Andreas Hubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: You can download the .fla files manually and play it with mplayer. On Fri, January 19, 2007 10:37, Malix wrote: > Someone know if flash player 7 will be available for Nokia 770? I really > miss youtube :). A good news come from swfdec, now they have freedesktop > support http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/ > a new maintainer work on it and latest version adds initial video playback > support > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/swfdec/2007-January/26.html > > > 2006/10/19, Malix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> As announced on Adobe Flash release manager blog >> http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/ Flash 9 for Linux is here. You think >> that this can be used under Maemo? Before now Flash was a big pain and >> I >> had a lot of crash with older versions on Linux, but now I think that >> Adobe >> is seriously considering Linux as big OS player. Under Maemo I have a >> lot of browser crash that, may be erroneously, attribute to flash >> player, so using the new Flash player 9 may resolve those problems. What >> do you think? >> > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: Flash player 9
Someone know if flash player 7 will be available for Nokia 770? I really miss youtube :). A good news come from swfdec, now they have freedesktop support http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/ a new maintainer work on it and latest version adds initial video playback support http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/swfdec/2007-January/26.html 2006/10/19, Malix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: As announced on Adobe Flash release manager blog http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/ Flash 9 for Linux is here. You think that this can be used under Maemo? Before now Flash was a big pain and I had a lot of crash with older versions on Linux, but now I think that Adobe is seriously considering Linux as big OS player. Under Maemo I have a lot of browser crash that, may be erroneously, attribute to flash player, so using the new Flash player 9 may resolve those problems. What do you think? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Remote debugger
Hi, did a remote debugging facilities is available for Nokia 770.If not is this planned? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 device reboot
2006/10/19, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 03:48:54PM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:>> Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote:>> >>> My 770 reboots once every two--three days. I think it's a software >> >>> problem. I could be wrong.>> >> As mentioned in the following link, please file bugs against the errant>> >> applications.>> >> http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ReportingRebootIssues?action="">>> >> I remember in your case it was FBReader - report it to them.>> >>> > /var/lib/dsme/lifeguard-resets claims it is maemo_af_desktop's fault. Were there several reboots accounted for the Desktop process?>>There were 44 reboots accounted for maemo_af_desktop, last time I checked.>>> Btw. there are several reasons why Desktop might die: >> - It's buggy :-)>>I suppose it could also be a buggy plugin?>>> - Something in the device is forcing it to run completely out of memory>>Nah, I have 64 megs of swap, and load-applet never shows more than 1 out >of 4 squares full when these crashes happen.>>One day I'll disable lifeguard resets, wait for a crash, and then ssh>into the device and ... uh ... actually I've no idea what to do then.>Can I enable core files? Is there a gdb package for armel? >>Marius Gedminas>-->A real friend isn't someone you use once and then throw away.>A real friend is someone you can use over and over again.I upgrade Gizmo to version 1.1.0.40 and for now it never crash. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Flash player 9
2006/10/19, Michael Kostrzewa (Nokia-M/Helsinki) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Swfdec is just a decoder for certain kind of swf presentations. It'llnot work for interactive flash stuff.MDKOn Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:55:29PM -0700, ext George Farris wrote:> On Thu, 2006-19-10 at 12:54 -0700, George Farris wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-19-10 at 14:59 -0400, Andrew J. Barr wrote:> > > On Thursday 19 October 2006 14:55, Koen Kooi wrote:> > > > Flash is evil> > >> > > My thoughts exactly. Thank you! > > >> > > (Although GNU Gnash is certainly less evil and I await the day it is generally> > > usable. A necessary evil, if you will.)> >> > swfdec might possible be a better match as it uses gstreamer etc. >The only alternative is Gnash, swfdec last development was 10 Jan 2006 when 0.3.6 was released.It seems that Gnash for Arm is ready did someone try this? > Oh and there is a GNOME guy working on it from what I understand.>>> ___> maemo-developers mailing list> maemo-developers@maemo.org> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers___maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.orghttps://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 device reboot
2006/10/19, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi,ext Marius Gedminas wrote: Hi, after upgrade to maemo 2.0 I have a problem. Some times my 770 reboot. This happen some times when I'm using the browser and every time I try to use Gizmo. For now I never had problem with other programs. You think this is a software problem or hardware?>>> My 770 reboots once every two--three days. I think it's a software>>> problem. I could be wrong.>> As mentioned in the following link, please file bugs against the errant >> applications.>> http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ReportingRebootIssues?action=""> I remember in your case it was FBReader - report it to them. >> /var/lib/dsme/lifeguard-resets claims it is maemo_af_desktop's fault.Were there several reboots accounted for the Desktop process?Btw. there are several reasons why Desktop might die:- It's buggy :-) - Something in the device is forcing it to run completely out of memory (and if alloc fails, Glib will abort the co. process), e.g. because that something is leaking memory or otherwise using a lot of memory without integrating itself to the device memory management: - If possible, app should implement support for the "background killing"i.e. save UI state when backgrounded and then indicate[1] that it's killable when the device runs out of memory:https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/doc/api/hildon-libs/hildon-libs-HildonProgram.html#hildon-program-set-can-hibernate http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/api/libosso/html/group__Statesave.html http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/api/libosso/html/group__Autosave.htmlWhen foregrounded, I think app should then remove the state andwhen being re-started, it should check whether there was someUI-state. If there was, restore the UI-state (instead of going to the default application state). If you strace the device apps,you see that UI state is stored under /tmp/osso-appl-states/ whichis on tmpfs i.e. goes away at reboot - It could use the libosso osso_mem_saw_enable & osso_mem_saw_disable http://maemo.org/lxr/source/libosso/src/osso-mem.h#110functions around operations that:- could potentially take a lot of memory (loading large image etc) - handle allocation failures gracefully (not abort/assert) - If app caches things or otherwise has some "optional" memoryusage, it could also listen to the system low memory notifications so that it can purge from RAM all of its caches when that happens:http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/api/libosso/html/group__Devstate.html http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/api/libosso/html/group__outside.html#g231284109a21410088850beed324ea57 If the device runs _completely_ out of memory, I don't think the kernelout-of-memory killer knows which process user would prefer to be killedto get more memory :-).Some more info on kernel OOM-killer: http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killerhttp://lwn.net/Articles/104179/[1] You can check whether app is "background-killable" by: - using "xwininfo|grep Window id" and tapping to the application window,- topping another window, and then- doing "xprop -id | grep KILL"If you see the hibernate property set for the app, it is "background killable".> FBReader just happens to be the application I use most often.>> I haven't reported it in Bugzilla yet, because I do not have a way to> reproduce the problem (other than "try to use the device for a few > days"), and also because it is not that irritating -- the device boots> pretty fast, and the progress bar is kinda nice. :) - Eero___maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.orghttps://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Thanks to everyone for suggestions. I will report any information I can collect , following those instructions http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ReportingRebootIssues?action="" , in the hope that those can help to fix bugs. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Flash player 9
As announced on Adobe Flash release manager blog http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/ Flash 9 for Linux is here. You think that this can be used under Maemo? Before now Flash was a big pain and I had a lot of crash with older versions on Linux, but now I think that Adobe is seriously considering Linux as big OS player. Under Maemo I have a lot of browser crash that, may be erroneously, attribute to flash player, so using the new Flash player 9 may resolve those problems. What do you think? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 device reboot
Hi, after upgrade to maemo 2.0 I have a problem. Some times my 770 reboot. This happen some times when I'm using the browser and every time I try to use Gizmo. For now I never had problem with other programs. You think this is a software problem or hardware? Thanks Malix. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
