Re: [maemo-developers] spam at maemo wiki

2006-09-12 Thread Steve Landers


On 12/09/2006, at 4:39 PM, Frantisek Dufka wrote:


Ferenc Szekely wrote:

Disabling anonymous edits would be temporary only, since it is  
against

the idea of the wikis.


I don't mind fixing the frontpage few times until proper solution  
is implemented (challenge/response looks ideal). I would disable  
anonymous logins only when situation gets worse.


Personally if site (blog, wiki, forum) wants registration from me  
for posting casual comments/hints/suggestions/corrrections I think  
twice and then just forget it.


This is the reason why those of us who maintain the Tclers Wiki  
(http://wiki.tcl.tk) have avoided logins so far, although the topic  
comes up regularly.


Our attitude is that it is like a shop window - sure you'll get some  
vandalism from time to time, but you don't want to board it up and  
create barriers to people contributing.


The Tclers Wiki is one of the bigger Wiki's around (containing tens  
of thousands of pages) and there are a couple of things that we do to  
minimise the pain from Spammers.


The first (and perhaps most significant) is to include  
'rel=nofollow' in all links, and to prominently display the  
following message on all edit pages





(in case the mailing list software filters the image, you can see it  
at http://mini.net/pub/nofollow.gif)


Most Wiki spammers seem to get the message - adding a URL to any page  
will not increase its page rank in Google.


The second measure is to make it trivially simple to revert to a  
previous version of a page. This means that spam is usually replaced  
very quickly (by anyone with the interest in doing so) and the  
spammers soon tire of playing the game. Of course, you need a simple  
way to roll forward too.


I'll leave others to judge whether these are appropriate to the Maemo  
wiki, but thought I'd share the experience in any case.


Steve

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Re: [maemo-developers] spam at maemo wiki

2006-09-12 Thread Steve Landers


On 13/09/2006, at 12:47 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:


Steve Landers schreef:

The first (and perhaps most significant) is to include  
'rel=nofollow'

in all links, and to prominently display the following message on all
edit pages


Wouldn't that also keep a large part of the wiki out of google?


No - it keeps any links in the Wiki from being considered when  
calculating the page rank.


We (i.e. the Tcl community) regularly use Google to search the Tclers  
Wiki (e.g. nokia 770 site:wiki.tcl.tk).


Regards

Steve
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Re: [maemo-developers] Alsa on IT2006 beta

2006-06-22 Thread Steve Landers


On 22/06/2006, at 7:10 PM, Frantisek Dufka wrote:


Steve Landers wrote:

Yes - I looked there. Nothing that stands out as being an alsa  
driver - snd_hwdep and snd_rawmidi being the closest but neither  
appears to provide the functionality of the inbuilt Alsa drivers  
in IT2005 nor the Alsa support referred to in the Maemo  
documentation.  And, unfortunately, I cannot find any  
documentation on how to use these modules.


Tha basic support is in kernel
Nokia770-22:~# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc2 (Wed Jan  
04 08:57:20 2006 UTC).
and with the rest in modules I think it is the same functionality  
as it was in IT2005 (i.e almost none). What exactly did work in  
IT2005 out of box? I thought alsa is not working yet for the  
internal audio and people should use gstreamer or esd deamon for  
that as the audio chip is used only by DSP (via gstreamer)  
directly. Am I wrong? Was there really alsa to DSP audio driver in  
kernel in IT2005?


I'll answer that question in a few hours when I rebuild the Maemo 1.1  
scratchbox and try building and running aplayer.  I've just reflashed  
to 1.1 (oh how I miss IT2006 already :)) and note that the /proc/ 
asounds directory has a subdir card0 with a symlink Dummy -  card0.   
Inside card0 is a device file id which just returns dummy. So at  
this stage I'm not sure if that indicates there is or isn't an Alsa  
driver present.


What I do know is that the documentation (http://www.maemo.org/ 
platform/docs/multimedia/multimedia_architecture.html) explicitly  
states that Alsa is supported and seems to discourage one from using  
ESD.


I've looked into Gstreamer but quickly got bogged down in the  
complexity and it isn't obvious if it is even possible to get it  
working in the way I need (basically, playing midi notes - ideally  
with soundfont support) without developing a plugin. I could go down  
the SDL path as an alternative but given I use a library that  
supports Alsa (Fluidsynth) and the Maemo multimedia documentation  
says that it supports Alsa then I'm naive enough to believe it should  
be possible :)


Don't get me wrong - I love the 770 and think that it is a great  
device. I'm just a bit frustrated at the moment with the quality of  
the available documentation (I can live with missing documentation, I  
find incorrect documentation a little harder to deal with).


In any case, I appreciate your input.

Steve


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[maemo-developers] Alsa on IT2006 beta

2006-06-21 Thread Steve Landers

G'day,

I'm currently porting a Fluidsynth based program to the n770 and  
notice that the Alsa driver appears to be missing from IT2006 beta.


No big deal, except I can't seem to regress my n770 to the previous  
OS release - Nokia_770_SE2005_5_2006_13_7, which does have the Alsa  
drivers. When flashing I get a message Unsupported board (id = 0x)


So, I have a few questions
- are the plans for alsa support to be re-added to IT2006?
- does anyone have the alsa driver built as a module that can be  
added to IT2006?

- can anyone offer insight as to why I can no-longer reflash the n770?

Many thanks

Steve

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