RE: PyQt

[luciano.wolf]

Hi Attila,

You've green light to go on! :)

Regards,
Luciano


From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] 
On Behalf Of ext Attila Csipa [ma...@csipa.in.rs]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 15:12
To: Airas Matti.P (Nokia-D/Tampere)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: PyQt

On Wednesday 18 November 2009 11:30:32 Matti Airas wrote:
> you're interested in maintaining PyQt on Maemo in the future, maybe you
> could arrange with Luciano Wolf and/or Phil Thompson (the current PyQt
> garage project admins) to have you appointed as a new project admin?

> Since there are no active maintainers for PyQt on Maemo, I think you
> should feel free to update the packages in any case.

I have written to both persons in question and had a positive response from
Phil Thompson, still waiting for Luciano's response.

> Having said all this, I strongly encourage Python Qt developers on Maemo
> to use PySide instead of PyQt. We'll be generating our future Maemo 6
> API bindings using PySide, so if you want to be able to utilize them,
> you'll need to go with PySide in any case. In addition, having only one
> set of Python Qt binding libraries on the device is probably greatly
> preferable to the end user. I understand PySide is at the moment a bit
> rough, but the situation will improve a lot by the end of the year.

PyQt can _at least_ serve as a stopgap till then, especially since people can
use the tried and true PyQt today without fearing the rough edges of PySide,
and then switch if they think PySide has reached a point where it benefits
them more. The worst case scenario is IMHO people not using *either*
(potentially giving up on development altogether), PyQt because they fear
it's abandoned, and PySide because it's just not ready for prime-time yet.

As for having two bindings, well, true, but then again, end users don't care
about GTK vs Qt and they'll have to have both in the future, just as they do
on the (Linux) desktop.
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PySide has been released

[luciano.wolf]

Hi,

The PySide team is pleased to announce the first public release of
PySide: Python for Qt!

PySide, its documentation, and developer resources are available at the 
project website, http://www.pyside.org .

What is it?
---

PySide is a project providing an LGPL'd set of Python bindings for the 
Qt framework.

PySide already provides a full set of Qt bindings as well as automated
binding generation tools. Since the whole toolset has been made
available, the team expects PySide to be valuable not only to Qt
software developers, but to people willing to create Python bindings to
any Qt-based library, or to any C++ library in general. Although based
on a different technical approach, PySide will initially be
API-compatible with existing Python bindings for Qt.

PySide is still a work in progress, and some work is still required to 
stabilize the codebase. This being said, the team believes it is already 
in a usable state, especially if an occasional rough edge and unpainted 
surface can be tolerated. Due to practical reasons, the initial 
development efforts have been focused on Linux, but the team hopes 
people to join in porting the code to other platforms and to further 
develop the bindings and tools.

Regards,
PySide team
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RE: PyQt 4.5.x ?

[luciano.wolf]

Hi,

By now we don't have a short term release plan. We are trying to keep PyMaemo 
up to date with Fremantle releases. It is good to know about developers 
interest to keep PyQt up and running. As soons as we get more info about PyQt 
roadmap I'll report here.

Regards,
Luciano

From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] 
On Behalf Of ext Attila Csipa [ma...@csipa.in.rs]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 16:43
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: PyQt 4.5.x ?

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have the short term plan of getting PyQt
4.5.x in extras-devel ? I can see that lucianomw uploaded some 4.4 point
releases as far as mid-May, but the garage PyQt pages look a bit orphaned...


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RE: Installing pyqt on scratchbox

[luciano.wolf]

Hi all,

Yesterday I got it compiling and working again. The error was related to wrong 
package dependency + a non-supported method inside QtGui. Please run an apt-get 
update and try to install again. Current version is -maemo10.

Regards,
Luciano


From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] 
On Behalf Of ext FENG GAO [gaofeng860...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 04:55
To: Wilms Daniel (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Installing pyqt on scratchbox

terrible! I should re-install the dev environment, and this problem make it 
impossible~ Please fix it as soon as possbile.

2009/5/6 daniel wilms mailto:daniel.wi...@nokia.com>>
Hi,

indeed, the problem is related to some dependency issues. I reported it to the 
pyqt guys and it will be solved quite soon. This problem is general and not 
caused by local environment issues as Jey Han Lau wrote.

Cheers Daniel
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RE: Python Launcher released

[luciano.wolf]

It's a bit strange because it uses "which" to discover the real path. Did 
you put your script in a visible path (e.g.: /usr/bin) with execution flag
(chmod +x)? If you run "which myapplication.py" it returns a valid path?

By now the daemon only supports shutdown (python-launcher-daemon -s). This 
stops the daemon but keeps running processes alive. The only way to kill 
the last application is "ps -aux | grep python" and "kill -9 PID" where 
PID is the last started python-daemon-launcher process. But would be better 
to use this only if your app freezes.

Thanks for your reports and interest!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext Jeffrey Barish
Sent: Mon 31-Mar-08 12:04
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Python Launcher released
 
Luciano Miguel Wolf wrote:

> Pylauncher shows this message when wasn't possible to find the script to
> be executed. Try to use "python ./myapplication.py" or the full path to
> the script.
> 
> Regards,
> Luciano Wolf

Yes, prefixing ./ does the trick.  Seems a little strange, though, that
Pylauncher doesn't find a script in the cwd.

One other question: Is there a way to kill myapplication.py once it starts
running under Pylauncher?  I used to use ^c, but Pylauncher exits once it
gets myapplication running.  Can I send a signal to the daemon
(kill -something)?

Start up is definitely faster -- by about 2 seconds.  Nice work.
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RE: python startup time

[luciano.wolf]

Hi Jesse,

Python-launcher is in the roadmap, as I've said in PyMaemo's release email.
I'm planing to have a test version next week.

Regards,
Luciano


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext Jesse Guardiani
Sent: Fri 16-Nov-07 13:30
To: Maemo Developers
Subject: Re: python startup time
 
See this from the OLPC project:
http://blogs.gnome.org/johan/2007/01/18/introducing-python-launcher/

python-launcher is a daemon that caches GTK imports. kinda like mod_python
for GTK. Maybe we should add this to maemo and give it a control panel
applet or something?

It would make GTK Python apps usable from a startup time perspective.

On 11/10/07, Martin Grimme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> if you are importing lots of modules, you can get the startup time down by
> not importing the modules at the top of a file, but at the place where you
> need it in a function.
> Note that modules are loaded only once, so subsequent import commands will
> have no effect.
>
> Example:
> instead of this:
>
>   import os
>
>   def foo():
>   print os.listdir()
>
>
> you can write this:
>
>   def foo():
> import os
> print os.listdir()
>
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
>
> 2007/11/9, Jesse Guardiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is there anything that can be done about python startup time?
> > I recently wrote a very simple little pygtk + glade application that is
> > less than 110 lines of code and it takes between 5 and 9 seconds to start
> > up.
> > 
> > http://www.guardiani.us/projects/tip_calc/browser/trunk/src/tip_calc/tip_calc.py
> >
> > Any way to get that startup time down?
> >
> >
> > --
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RE: Python - problem with locales

[luciano.wolf]

Hi David,

To resolve locale, Python uses LC_ALL, LC_CTYPES, LANG and LANGUAGE in 
this order. SDK3.3 sets LC_ALL=C giving (None,None) as result to 
getdefaultlocale(). SDK2.2 and N800 leaves LC_ALL clean, then if you set 
LANGUAGE everything goes fine. By now you can "unset LC_ALL" to resolve 
this problem.

Regards,
Luciano


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext David Hautbois
Sent: Fri 05-Oct-07 17:33
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Python - problem with locales
 
Hi
I have problems to display special characters in the python console 
(With Scratchbox) :
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2014' in 
position 54: ordinal not in range(128)

I think this is because the following command :
locale.getdefaultlocale()
return
(None, None)

I didn't have this issue with maemo 3.1 SDK.

How to solve this issue ?

Thanks

David.

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RE: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-11)

[luciano.wolf]

Hi Riku,

Good to know you like Python :)

To answer #1: PyMaemo uses 2 install files because Application 
Manager doesn't support multiple repositories inside a single 
.install. This limitation is to be fixed in the next release.

#2: To upload files to the extras repository you have to follow the
steps described at:
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ExtrasRepository
It is not so difficult as it seems, just demands a lot of work :)

Regards,
Luciano Wolf


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext Riku Voipio
Sent: Thu 28-Jun-07 10:53
To: MoRpHeUz
Cc: Maemo developers
Subject: Re: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-11)
 
MoRpHeUz wrote:
>   Great applications like Carman, Konttouri's player and others were
> written in python. And the final users wont have this applications
> working well if we dont have python support for the platform.
>   
Why would that need python support *in* the platform? It should jsut be 
a matter
of putting ukmp and pymaemo in maemo extras and having a proper install file
for ukmp.

I see it's not true for now.

1) pymaemo needs clicks on two install files "base repo" and "pymaemo" why?
2) ukmp does not have a install file, but a .deb. according to 
maintainer uploading
to extras is "too hard"

^ those are the issues that need fixing, not adding arbitrary bloat[1] 
to the base system.
Which basically  foils down either limits in .install files and/or 
problems with using
garage. Next time someone is going to write a neat ruby application, it 
needs to be easily
installable as well, and you can't solve all dependency problems by 
adding everything
to official(tm) firmware.

[1] I do not mean python specifically, which I actually like.

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RE: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-11)

[luciano.wolf]

What a big thread! :)

Well, I apologize the way this release was put to the public. This new 
email/announce follows what Quim Gil have proposed. Thanks!



I am pleased to announce Python2.5.1 for Maemo - r0.4-11

This new release is available from:
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org

What's it?
--
Python for Maemo (PyMaemo for short) main objective is to make possible 
to use Python programming language as the scripting and development 
language for Maemo Platform, providing a better alternative for fast 
prototyping and programming in Maemo environment besides the C 
programming language.

Python is for serious programming and to have fun. Python has a nice 
syntax, it's easy to learn and powerful enough for a vast range of 
applications, this is why we choose Python for Maemo.

What's changed?
---
Bugfixes:
 - #898 - hildon.gtk_infoprint* don't accept None in 'parent' 
  argument (Luciano Wolf)
 - #904 - Pyosso does not export OssoException (Lauro Moura)
 - #905 - No need to include cdrom and joystick in pygame for maemo 
  (Luciano Wolf)
 - #919 - osso.Application.application_top should accept None as 
  'arguments' parameter (Luciano Wolf)
 - #924 - Export exception types for Python-Osso (Lauro Moura)
 - #929 - Problem on osso.Autosaving: SystemError: NULL object passed to 
  Py_BuildValue (Lauro Moura)
 - #938 - user_data argument in wrong position on the keyword list for 
  osso.Device.set_device_state_callback (Lauro Moura)
 - #942 - Missing '&' passing PyList_Type to Py_Arg_Parse* inside 
  libosso.Mime (Lauro Moura)
 - #947 - h2def.py: Fixed method to parse object definitions 
  (Lauro Moura)
New Modules:
 - osso-help
 - osso-ic
Upgrades:
 - New osso examples (see Documentation link inside PyMaemo webpage)
 - iPython upgraded to v0.8.1 (plus removal of python2.5-dev dependency 
   by Ed Bartosh)

What's planned?
---
Next release is planned to have GPS and Address book support. In long 
term we plan to speed up Python using the Python Launcher, improve 
Pluthon (Eclipse 
plugin - http://pluthon.garage.maemo.org) and Easy Hildon 
(Python-based API to ease the development of applications - 
http://easy.garage.maemo.org).

Acknowledgements:
-
Thanks to everybody who helped making this release possible.


Bug reports, as always, should go to Bugzilla; check out
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org for links to posting and querying bug 
reports for PyMaemo.

Regards,
Luciano Wolf



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext MoRpHeUz
Sent: Thu 28-Jun-07 09:24
To: Stone Daniel (Nokia-M/Helsinki)
Cc: Maemo developers
Subject: Re: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-11)
 
> Please read the first few words of my first post, where I say 'Not to
> disparage the goal of full Python support'.  Because I really would like
> to see full Python support there.  I was just pointing out that the
> device is sold to a far wider audience: I suspect more people have
> bought it from Nokia shops and the like (one of the main telcos
> advertises it in newspapers here), than people from maemo-developers.

  OK, I got you point now. :-)

regards,

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New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-11)

[luciano.wolf]

Hi all!

A new PyMaemo release is ready. This one includes:
-Bugfix[1];
-Osso help and Osso IC support;
-Upgraded iPython;
-Python OSSO examples.

Thanks to all contributors!

Regards,
Luciano Wolf

[1]
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org
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RE: Python - RPC Sender sample application

[luciano.wolf]

Hi David,

Maemo site still has some small problems, but they will be fixed soon. You can 
also use the documentation page available in pymaemo site[1] - section 
"Introduction to LibOSSO". Don't forget to "chmod +x osso_test_receiver.py", 
otherwise it will not be started by DBUS.

Regards,
Luciano Wolf


[1]
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/documentation/pymaemo_tutorial/python_maemo_howto.html



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext David Hautbois
Sent: Tue 29-May-07 13:08
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Python - RPC Sender sample application
 
Hi

In the python tutorial, the content of the RPC Sender sample application 
is missing.

Can someone send it ?

Thanks.

David.

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RE: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-10)

[luciano.wolf]

Hi Antonio,

Thanks for your comments. PyMaemo webpage now includes Hacker Edition together
with Gregale (Maemo2.2 - 770) and Bora (Maemo3.0 - N800) distributions.

Regards,
Luciano Wolf

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext Antonio Orlando
Sent: Wed 16-May-07 08:07
To: Maemo developers
Subject: Re: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-10)
 
Will it work on

* Nokia 770 ITOS2006, and/or
* Nokia 770 ITOS2007 hacker edition, and/or
* Nokia N800 ITOS2007?

PS: I think this kind of information - if known by developers - should  
always be clearly visible for every maemo software, near every "download"  
link.
Same problem occurred when we had several ITOS versions and just the 770  
existed, now it's even more confusing as we have the n800 around.

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RE: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-10)

[luciano.wolf]

Hi Eduardo,

I had a problem while uploading i386 packages to the extras repository. 
Today it will be fixed.

Regards,
Luciano


-Original Message-
From: ext Eduardo Lima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 15-May-07 23:50
To: Wolf Luciano (EXT-INdT/Recife)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-10)
 
I've now tried to install all python packages, again with no success,
because of broken dependencies:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  python2.5-conic-dev: Depends: python2.5-conic (= 0.1-1osso1) but it
is not installable
  python2.5-dbus-dev: Depends: python2.5-dbus (= 0.71-1osso5) but
0.71-1osso4 is to be installed
  python2.5-gnome-dev: Depends: python2.5-gnome (= 2.18.0-1osso1) but
it is not installable
  python2.5-gobject-dev: Depends: python2.5-gobject (= 2.12.2-1osso3)
but 2.12.2-1osso2 is to be installed
  python2.5-gtk2-dev: Depends: python2.5-gtk2 (= 2.10.3-1osso5) but
2.10.3-1osso4 is to be installed
  python2.5-hildon-dev: Depends: python2.5-hildon (= 0.8.7-1osso3) but
0.8.7-1osso1 is to be installed
  python2.5-osso-dev: Depends: python2.5-osso (= 0.2-1osso3) but
0.2-1osso2 is to be installed
  python2.5-pyrex: Depends: python2.5 (>= 2.5.1-1osso2) but
2.5.0-1osso11 is to be installed
  python2.5-xml-dev: Depends: python2.5-xml (= 0.8.4-1osso9) but
0.8.4-1osso8 is to be installed
E: Broken packages

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On 5/15/07, Eduardo Lima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm having problems while trying to upgrade the python packages in the
> scratchbox environment:
>
> [sbox-3.1-i386: ~] > apt-get dist-upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Calculating Upgrade... Done
> The following packages have been kept back:
>   python2.5-dbus-dev python2.5-gobject-dev python2.5-gtk2-dev
> python2.5-hildon-dev python2.5-osso-dev python2.5-pyrex
> python2.5-xml-dev
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
> [sbox-3.1-i386: ~] >
>
> And trying to install those packages manually won't solve:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   python2.5-dbus-dev: Depends: python2.5-dbus (= 0.71-1osso5) but
> 0.71-1osso4 is to be installed
>   python2.5-gobject-dev: Depends: python2.5-gobject (= 2.12.2-1osso3)
> but 2.12.2-1osso2 is to be installed
>   python2.5-gtk2-dev: Depends: python2.5-gtk2 (= 2.10.3-1osso5) but
> 2.10.3-1osso4 is to be installed
>   python2.5-hildon-dev: Depends: python2.5-hildon (= 0.8.7-1osso3) but
> 0.8.7-1osso1 is to be installed
>   python2.5-osso-dev: Depends: python2.5-osso (= 0.2-1osso3) but
> 0.2-1osso2 is to be installed
>   python2.5-pyrex: Depends: python2.5 (>= 2.5.1-1osso2) but
> 2.5.0-1osso11 is to be installed
>   python2.5-xml-dev: Depends: python2.5-xml (= 0.8.4-1osso9) but
> 0.8.4-1osso8 is to be installed
> E: Broken packages
>
>
> Any idea??
>
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>
>
>

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RE: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-10)

[luciano.wolf]

Hi John,

If you're using python2.5 you can click on "check for updates" in Application 
Manager 
and proceed with installation. Python2.4 users have to uninstall it first.

People installing for the first time can use automatic install files available 
at
PyMaemo website: pymaemo.garage.maemo.org


Ah, I forgot to say in the previous email: now we have support to 
gconf/gnomevfs. To use it:
from gnome import gconf
from gnome import gnomevfs

Regards,
Luciano Wolf


-Original Message-
From: ext Acadia Secure Networks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 15-May-07 21:50
To: Wolf Luciano (EXT-INdT/Recife)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-10)
 
Luciano,

thanks for the heads up.

Can we simply "install over" the old version or must the old version be 
first un-installed before installing the new version?

Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

Acadia Secure Networks

* *

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Luciano Miguel Wolf wrote:
> Hi Maemo Developers!
>
> It took us some time but now we have a new version of Python2.5 for 
> Maemo ready for download. We have tried to cover requests from community 
> as much as possible. Highlights are:
> -New modules (libconic, libid3tag, osso-mime, libjpeg -thanks to Matt 
> Croydon)
> -Bugfixes
> -Ipython (thanks to Ed Bartosh)
> -Python2.5.1
>
> Since the last release we have received a lot of feedback from the 
> community. Let's continue the good work and bring more and more 
> applications to the PyMaemo universe.
>
> Regards,
> Luciano Wolf
> -INdT-
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RE: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 24, Issue 41

[luciano.wolf]

Hi Scott,

We have plans to add libjpeg support, but not in this next release. We are 
working to release a new python version until the end of this week, with a lot 
of bugfixes, gconf support and python2.5.1. If we had time to integrate and 
test this libjpeg package[1], created by Matt Croydon, it will be packed 
together.

Regards,
Luciano Wolf


[1] 
http://www.postneo.com/2007/02/11/packaging-python-imaging-library-for-maemo-30-bora-and-the-n800


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext D. Scott Brown
Sent: Mon 4/30/2007 11:27 AM
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 24, Issue 41
 
> The Camera API Example [1] states that JPEG's cannot be captured using Python
> because the N800 is lacking jpeglib bindings. Is this still true? What would 
> be
> required to make them available? (Is Matt Croydon's porting of the Python
> Imaging Library [2] in any way related?) Any help would be appreciated. 
> Thanks.

I haven't seen the jpeglib bindings either, but I'd love to have them
too. Is this a planned part of a future release of Python for Maemo?

Scott

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RE: python sound

[luciano.wolf]

Hi Matthew,

You have to use pygstreamer in order to play sounds using python for maemo.

Regards,
Luciano


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext Matthew R. Gattis
Sent: Tue 4/17/2007 10:45 AM
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: python sound
 
Has anyone gotten sound in python to work on one of the tablets?  I'm
curious to know how you did it.

I tried using pyalsaaudio but no luck with recording for some reason (it
just records blank audio).

I can't use ossaudiodev because they took it out of the maemo python
versions.  Is there an easy way to put it back in?

Thanks

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