Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-21 Thread Nicolas Roard
On 10/20/05, Aleksandr Koltsoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all

 Component already included - Package Depends is wrong. Needs only depend on
 maemo, nothing else. Also note that no pre/post-install scripts will be run
 from the package, so if package installation depends on them, it will break,
 but at least you won't get the nice  descriptive error message ;-). And as
 was noted, the installation root is /var/install (making new
 packages-document).

 Of course the error might be caused because of other things as well, but this
 is what worked for me.

Hi,

I rebuilt libssl/ssh debs by removing the pre/post install scripts and
modifying the Depends field, you can find them here:
http://www.xdev.org/nokia/

That way they install properly (install libssl first of course) and
the ssh client works (it will be in /var/lib/install/bin though).

Secondly, is there any way of getting the root account ?.. even with
knowing the root password, su doesn't work, and sudo neither (perhaps
because there is no user password ?).. any ideas ?

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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-21 Thread Nicolas Roard
On 10/21/05, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/21/05, Nicolas Roard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I rebuilt libssl/ssh debs by removing the pre/post install scripts and
  modifying the Depends field, you can find them here:
  http://www.xdev.org/nokia/

 ouch... could you rename it to maemo instead of nokia?

er.. yes, of course.. :-)
I changed it.

  That way they install properly (install libssl first of course) and
  the ssh client works (it will be in /var/lib/install/bin though).

 If you don't run post-install, how do you generate the ssh keys? At
 the first server run?

I didn't try the server, just the client. More exactly, the server
binary works but obviously  you need to do the post-install work by
hand, and I didn't do it yet..
I'm no .deb expert, I just quickly stripped them of the scripts and
modified the depends, and they installed.. so I figured that some
people could be interested :-) until somebody update the packages on
maemo.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-21 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 10/21/05, Nicolas Roard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/21/05, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 10/21/05, Nicolas Roard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That way they install properly (install libssl first of course) and
   the ssh client works (it will be in /var/lib/install/bin though).
 
  If you don't run post-install, how do you generate the ssh keys? At
  the first server run?

 I didn't try the server, just the client. More exactly, the server
 binary works but obviously  you need to do the post-install work by
 hand, and I didn't do it yet..
 I'm no .deb expert, I just quickly stripped them of the scripts and
 modified the depends, and they installed.. so I figured that some
 people could be interested :-) until somebody update the packages on
 maemo.

Try to figure out what post-install does, at least check if it
generate sshd keys.

Then, you can move this generator to /etc/init.d/sshd if keys were not found.


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[maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Mattias Schlenker
Today UPS dropped off a brandnew N770. I wanted to start installing 
applications, AbiWord from indt.org.bra but maemo refused to install 
libfribidi with a strange error message saying something like component 
already included, the same with Maemo Word processor. Since this little 
bastard does not sport a console I am feeling a little helpless...


Since the device is getting closer to market, I want to rework the live 
CD to make it represent as many apps as possibly. However, some of the 
apps on


http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog

might not be usable and I am sure that some of you are working on more 
recent versions. So if you have DEBs for i386, please send them to me.


Regards,
Mattias


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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Rodrigo Parra Novo
   Hi Mattias,

On 10/19/05, Mattias Schlenker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Today UPS dropped off a brandnew N770. I wanted to start installing
 applications, AbiWord from indt.org.bra but maemo refused to install
 libfribidi with a strange error message saying something like component
 already included, the same with Maemo Word processor. Since this little
 bastard does not sport a console I am feeling a little helpless...

   This version of AbiWord (which we were calling
maemo-word-processor, at that time, as our code was not yet commited
to the AbiWord CVS repo) is quite old.

   Since then, Maemo support is now official in AbiWord, and the
community has already released version 2.4 of this fine software.

   I (personally) haven't talked with the AbiWord developers recently,
but I know that many of them got Nokia 770 devices via the developer
program (some of them already have the devices in their hands)

   So, I believe it is (reasonably) safe just to give it a few days,
before we have community built AbiWord packages.

   Best regards,

   Rodrigo
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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Chris Ball
 On 19 Oct 2005 15:59:50, Mattias Schlenker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I wanted to start installing applications, AbiWord from
indt.org.bra but maemo refused to install libfribidi with a strange
error message saying something like component already included,
the same with Maemo Word processor.

My 770 turned up today too, and I got the above error installing
minisip.  Component not included obviously isn't what's wrong;
can anybody tell us what is?  :)

Thanks!

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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Mattias Schlenker

Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:


On 10/19/05, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


My 770 turned up today too, and I got the above error installing
minisip.  Component not included obviously isn't what's wrong;
can anybody tell us what is?  :)
   



Wow... are you and Mattias subscribed to the developer's program or
what? I was subscribed and didn't got the code they said yet, so I can
ask mine :-(
 



It seems Nokia started shipping the devices from Lüttich/Liège to people
in the EU on monday. So far just people located in the European Union
confirmed receiving a N770.

I am sure that other countries will follow soon...

Regards,
Mattias



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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Adilson Oliveira
Mattias Schlenker escreveu:

 
 It seems Nokia started shipping the devices from Lüttich/Liège to people
 in the EU on monday. So far just people located in the European Union
 confirmed receiving a N770.
 
 I am sure that other countries will follow soon...

I hope so. I'm from Brazil and didn't get any news about mine also, not
even mine code for order it, despiste I'm subscribed in the developper's
program.
BTW, let me introduce myself: I'm Adilson Oliveira, currently working as
a core programmer for NoMachine (http://nomachine.com) but with a
passion for embedded development.

[]s

Adilson.
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Re: NXclient (was Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...)

2005-10-19 Thread Adilson Oliveira
Matteo Centonza escreveu:
 Hi,
 
 
I hope so. I'm from Brazil and didn't get any news about mine also, not
even mine code for order it, despiste I'm subscribed in the developper's
program.
BTW, let me introduce myself: I'm Adilson Oliveira, currently working as
a core programmer for NoMachine (http://nomachine.com) but with a
passion for embedded development.
 
 
 keeping the ball bouncing, have you any news on nxclient availability for
 maemo?

I can't tell about the company's position but it's very possible. My
interest on Maemo is purelly private at this moment.

[]s

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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 10/19/05, Adilson Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mattias Schlenker escreveu:

 
  It seems Nokia started shipping the devices from Lüttich/Liège to people
  in the EU on monday. So far just people located in the European Union
  confirmed receiving a N770.
 
  I am sure that other countries will follow soon...

 I hope so. I'm from Brazil and didn't get any news about mine also, not
 even mine code for order it, despiste I'm subscribed in the developper's
 program.
 BTW, let me introduce myself: I'm Adilson Oliveira, currently working as
 a core programmer for NoMachine (http://nomachine.com) but with a
 passion for embedded development.

Hi! I'm from Brazil too and in the same situation.

And nice NoMachine is hiring brazilians! That's a great company. Any
plans to have their client in maemo? It would rock!

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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Adilson Oliveira
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri escreveu:

 Hi! I'm from Brazil too and in the same situation.

I knew your name was familiar :)

 And nice NoMachine is hiring brazilians! That's a great company. Any
 plans to have their client in maemo? It would rock!

I've been working for NoMachine for almost 2 years already and the only
Brazilian yet ;)
Anyway, as I explained in another email, there's no official position
regarding the nxclient port to Maemo but I see as a possibility.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Ralf Engels
Hi Janne,
that does not explain the error (which component is already included) and it 
also does not explain why I get the error when I try helloworld and 
maemopad.

I am waiting since several weeks that this get's fixed.
Meanwhile I play Sokoban.

BR,
Ralf

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:36:22 +0300
Janne Kataja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mattias Schlenker wrote:
 
  Today UPS dropped off a brandnew N770. I wanted to start installing 
  applications, AbiWord from indt.org.bra but maemo refused to install 
  libfribidi with a strange error message saying something like 
  component already included, the same with Maemo Word processor. 
  Since this little bastard does not sport a console I am feeling a 
  little helpless...
 
 The application installer packages need to be in a special format, see
 http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_making_an_application_package.html
 
 I am writing a script based on equivs that takes a control file and a 
 bunch of Debian packages and combies them to an application installer 
 package. More on that later this week.
 
 
 Janne
 
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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Mattias Schlenker

Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:


On 10/19/05, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


My 770 turned up today too, and I got the above error installing
minisip.  Component not included obviously isn't what's wrong;
can anybody tell us what is?  :)
   



Wow... are you and Mattias subscribed to the developer's program or
what? I was subscribed and didn't got the code they said yet, so I can
ask mine :-(
 



It seems Nokia started shipping the devices from Lüttich/Liège to people 
in the EU on monday. So far just people located in the European Union 
confirmed receiving a N770.


I am sure that other countries will follow soon...

Regards,
Mattias



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Re: [maemo-developers] Enough theory...

2005-10-19 Thread Aleksandr Koltsoff
Hello all

Component already included - Package Depends is wrong. Needs only depend on 
maemo, nothing else. Also note that no pre/post-install scripts will be run 
from the package, so if package installation depends on them, it will break, 
but at least you won't get the nice  descriptive error message ;-). And as 
was noted, the installation root is /var/install (making new 
packages-document).

Of course the error might be caused because of other things as well, but this 
is what worked for me.

ak.

On Wednesday 19 October 2005 23:26, Ralf Engels wrote:
 Hi Janne,
 that does not explain the error (which component is already included) and
 it also does not explain why I get the error when I try helloworld and
 maemopad.

 I am waiting since several weeks that this get's fixed.
 Meanwhile I play Sokoban.

 BR,
 Ralf

 On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:36:22 +0300

 Janne Kataja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mattias Schlenker wrote:
   Today UPS dropped off a brandnew N770. I wanted to start installing
   applications, AbiWord from indt.org.bra but maemo refused to install
   libfribidi with a strange error message saying something like
   component already included, the same with Maemo Word processor.
   Since this little bastard does not sport a console I am feeling a
   little helpless...
 
  The application installer packages need to be in a special format, see
  http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_making_an_application_package
 .html
 
  I am writing a script based on equivs that takes a control file and a
  bunch of Debian packages and combies them to an application installer
  package. More on that later this week.
 
 
  Janne
 
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