Re: [maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods

2007-04-20 Thread Mohammad Anwari
Hi,

I've forwarded your message (again) to the Bora team. Hope they can fix
this ASAP. Sorry for the inconvinience. For the mean time, I guess you
could use the same header packages which available in Bora 3.0.

Pada hari Rabu, tanggal 18/04/2007 pukul 17:30 +0200, ext Guard][an
menulis:
> Hello Mohammad,
> 
> Since your reply to my questions, the wiki page 
> http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_him_bora.html has not 
> been updated :(
> 
> More over, 
> http://repository.maemo.org/stable/3.1/content_comparison.html indicates 
> that packages libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-dev and 
> libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-dev have been removed.
> 
> As a consequence, it is not possible anymore to compile the sample input 
> method plugin at 
> http://www.maemo.org//downloads/him-plugin-examples/him-plugins-sdk-example-0.0.2.tar.gz
> 
> As a workaround, I will revert to bora 3.0. However, what's the solution 
> for bora 3.1 ?
> 
> Regards,
> G.
> 
> Mohammad Anwari wrote:
> > Pada hari Senin, tanggal 15/01/2007 pukul 13:45 +0100, ext Guard][an
> > menulis:
> >> The tutorial mentions "libhildon-input-method-header-sdk-dev and 
> >> libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-dev packages" but the real 
> >> name of the first package seems to be 
> >> "libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-dev".
> > 
> > You are correct. I'm cc:-ing bora-feedback hoping they can fix this.
> > 
> >> Also, it would be nice to have more detailed documentation on key types 
> >> and attributes usage.
> >>
> >> For instance, the q markup seems 
> >> rather obscure to me, particularly the alpha="ALPHA" part.
> >>
> >> Also, how do you define a modifier key ?
> > 
> > Unfortunately, there is no modifier key :(
> > 
> >>  And how do you specify tabs like the "abc" "ABC" "1!+" tabs on the thumb 
> >> keyboard. In fact, having 
> > 
> > Put label attribute in the sublayout tag.
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> >> the xml versions of the .vkb files deployed on the device would really 
> >> help understanding how to achieve the "abc/ABC click on the same tab 
> >> changes the case" behavior. 
> > 
> > Use variance index for that, so we would have:
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > ...
> > ...
> > 
> >> Is there any plan to make these .xml files 
> >> available ?
> > 
> > Sorry, no plan for that.
> > 
> >> Regards.
> >> G.
> > 
> 
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Re: [maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods

2007-04-18 Thread Guard][an

Hello Mohammad,

Since your reply to my questions, the wiki page 
http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_him_bora.html has not 
been updated :(


More over, 
http://repository.maemo.org/stable/3.1/content_comparison.html indicates 
that packages libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-dev and 
libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-dev have been removed.


As a consequence, it is not possible anymore to compile the sample input 
method plugin at 
http://www.maemo.org//downloads/him-plugin-examples/him-plugins-sdk-example-0.0.2.tar.gz


As a workaround, I will revert to bora 3.0. However, what's the solution 
for bora 3.1 ?


Regards,
G.

Mohammad Anwari wrote:

Pada hari Senin, tanggal 15/01/2007 pukul 13:45 +0100, ext Guard][an
menulis:
The tutorial mentions "libhildon-input-method-header-sdk-dev and 
libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-dev packages" but the real 
name of the first package seems to be 
"libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-dev".


You are correct. I'm cc:-ing bora-feedback hoping they can fix this.

Also, it would be nice to have more detailed documentation on key types 
and attributes usage.


For instance, the q markup seems 
rather obscure to me, particularly the alpha="ALPHA" part.


Also, how do you define a modifier key ?


Unfortunately, there is no modifier key :(

 And how do you specify tabs like the "abc" "ABC" "1!+" tabs on the thumb keyboard. In fact, having 


Put label attribute in the sublayout tag.
...


...

the xml versions of the .vkb files deployed on the device would really 
help understanding how to achieve the "abc/ABC click on the same tab 
changes the case" behavior. 


Use variance index for that, so we would have:
...


...

...
...

Is there any plan to make these .xml files 
available ?


Sorry, no plan for that.


Regards.
G.




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Re: [maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods

2007-01-15 Thread Kimitake Abe
All,

Thank you, I did as follow and could build the sample code.

fakeroot apt-get install libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-dev

Regards,
Kimitake

-Original Message-
From:"Guard][an" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  maemo-developers@maemo.org
Date:Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:45:24 +0100
Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods


 > You can apt-get install them after installing maemo-explicit.

Which does not work when you installed your bora scratchbox targets and 
sdk rootstraps manually because of pkg-config problems, see: 
http://rafb.net/p/Ta7ltB82.html

The tutorial mentions "libhildon-input-method-header-sdk-dev and 
libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-dev packages" but the real 
name of the first package seems to be 
"libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-dev".

Also, it would be nice to have more detailed documentation on key types 
and attributes usage.

For instance, the q markup seems 
rather obscure to me, particularly the alpha="ALPHA" part.

Also, how do you define a modifier key ? And how do you specify tabs 
like the "abc" "ABC" "1!+" tabs on the thumb keyboard. In fact, having 
the xml versions of the .vkb files deployed on the device would really 
help understanding how to achieve the "abc/ABC click on the same tab 
changes the case" behavior. Is there any plan to make these .xml files 
available ?

Regards.
G.

Mohammad Anwari wrote:
> Pada hari Sabtu, tanggal 13/01/2007 pukul 04:02 -0800, ext Kimitake Abe
> menulis:
>> configure: error: Library requirements 
>> (libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-2.0 >= 2.0.0 
>> libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider 
>> adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in 
>> a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
>>
>> As tutorial, the components are required but how can I get them?
> 
> You can apt-get install them after installing maemo-explicit.
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Re: [maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods

2007-01-15 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 03:09:46PM +0200, Mohammad Anwari wrote:
> > Is there any plan to make these .xml files 
> > available ?
> 
> Sorry, no plan for that.

Why not?  That would be a tremendous help to people who want to
customize their virtual keyboard layouts.  Or add support for languages
that are not supported out of the box.

Given that the .vkb file format is documented, the XML file format is
documented, and the utility to compile XMLs into VKB is available, it is
possible to decompile the .vkb files distributed in the OS image into
XML sources, and verify that the sources can be compiled back into the
same .vkb files.

That might violate the licence under which the OS images are
distributed.  IIRC it said something about reverse engineering.
IANAL.

Marius Gedminas
-- 
The memory management on the PowerPC can be used to frighten small children.
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Re: [maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods

2007-01-15 Thread Mohammad Anwari
Pada hari Senin, tanggal 15/01/2007 pukul 13:45 +0100, ext Guard][an
menulis:
> The tutorial mentions "libhildon-input-method-header-sdk-dev and 
> libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-dev packages" but the real 
> name of the first package seems to be 
> "libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-dev".

You are correct. I'm cc:-ing bora-feedback hoping they can fix this.

> Also, it would be nice to have more detailed documentation on key types 
> and attributes usage.
> 
> For instance, the q markup seems 
> rather obscure to me, particularly the alpha="ALPHA" part.
> 
> Also, how do you define a modifier key ?

Unfortunately, there is no modifier key :(

>  And how do you specify tabs like the "abc" "ABC" "1!+" tabs on the thumb 
> keyboard. In fact, having 

Put label attribute in the sublayout tag.
...


...

> the xml versions of the .vkb files deployed on the device would really 
> help understanding how to achieve the "abc/ABC click on the same tab 
> changes the case" behavior. 

Use variance index for that, so we would have:
...


...

...
...

> Is there any plan to make these .xml files 
> available ?

Sorry, no plan for that.

> Regards.
> G.
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Re: [maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods

2007-01-15 Thread Guard][an

> You can apt-get install them after installing maemo-explicit.

Which does not work when you installed your bora scratchbox targets and 
sdk rootstraps manually because of pkg-config problems, see: 
http://rafb.net/p/Ta7ltB82.html


The tutorial mentions "libhildon-input-method-header-sdk-dev and 
libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-dev packages" but the real 
name of the first package seems to be 
"libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-dev".


Also, it would be nice to have more detailed documentation on key types 
and attributes usage.


For instance, the q markup seems 
rather obscure to me, particularly the alpha="ALPHA" part.


Also, how do you define a modifier key ? And how do you specify tabs 
like the "abc" "ABC" "1!+" tabs on the thumb keyboard. In fact, having 
the xml versions of the .vkb files deployed on the device would really 
help understanding how to achieve the "abc/ABC click on the same tab 
changes the case" behavior. Is there any plan to make these .xml files 
available ?


Regards.
G.

Mohammad Anwari wrote:

Pada hari Sabtu, tanggal 13/01/2007 pukul 04:02 -0800, ext Kimitake Abe
menulis:

configure: error: Library requirements 
(libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-2.0 >= 2.0.0 
libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the 
PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so 
pkg-config can find them.

As tutorial, the components are required but how can I get them?


You can apt-get install them after installing maemo-explicit.
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Re: [maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods

2007-01-15 Thread Mohammad Anwari
Pada hari Sabtu, tanggal 13/01/2007 pukul 04:02 -0800, ext Kimitake Abe
menulis:
> configure: error: Library requirements 
> (libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-2.0 >= 2.0.0 
> libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider 
> adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a 
> nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
> 
> As tutorial, the components are required but how can I get them?

You can apt-get install them after installing maemo-explicit.
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[maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods

2007-01-13 Thread Kimitake Abe
Hi,

I just tried to create a customized IM so compiled code example,
him-plugins-sdk-example-0.0.2.tar.gz. But I got the following error.

configure: error: Library requirements 
(libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk-2.0 >= 2.0.0 
libhildon-input-method-ui-header-sdk-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting 
the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard 
prefix so pkg-config can find them.

As tutorial, the components are required but how can I get them?

-
Kimitake Abe
http://kimitake.blogdns.net

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