Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-29 Thread Kalle Vahlman

2006/11/29, Tomi Ollila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

"Kalle Vahlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 2006/11/29, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> 2006/11/28, Tomi Ollila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > my wishlist to scratchbox developers:
>> >
>> > 1) make this work (or is there something I did wrong ?) (*)
>> > 2) update subversion to at least 1.3 so that svn log --limit=n works.
>>
>> FWIW, you can install self-compiled tools under /host_usr (which is
>> visible in all targets) and add /host_usr/bin to your PATH.

Yes...but I want to keep the changes in /scratchbox/ directory
tree as bare minimum... The requirement (without any hacking) to
add group "sbox" to /etc/groups is disturbing enough ;)


Well, technically you could say it's the root dir you are modifying ;)

But more seriously, /host_usr/ is specifically meant for the user,
that's why it resides in the /scratchbox/users/ tree. And unless
you are building your stuff in /tmp, you are already working inside
/scratchbox/users as your home lives there, so it really isn't that
radical.


(I'd like to just tar my /scratchbox and move to other machine,
 extract it there and start using... but I understand there is
 no point spending expensive development time doing that)


No, and even if you do, having stuff in /host_usr isn't going to make
a difference, as it will be copied along the other user-specific stuff
AFAICT.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-29 Thread Tomi Ollila
"Kalle Vahlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 2006/11/29, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> 2006/11/28, Tomi Ollila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > my wishlist to scratchbox developers:
>> >
>> > 1) make this work (or is there something I did wrong ?) (*)
>> > 2) update subversion to at least 1.3 so that svn log --limit=n works.
>>
>> FWIW, you can install self-compiled tools under /host_usr (which is
>> visible in all targets) and add /host_usr/bin to your PATH.

Yes...but I want to keep the changes in /scratchbox/ directory
tree as bare minimum... The requirement (without any hacking) to
add group "sbox" to /etc/groups is disturbing enough ;)

(I'd like to just tar my /scratchbox and move to other machine,
 extract it there and start using... but I understand there is
 no point spending expensive development time doing that)

> Actually it is in your PATH already, but the scratchbox version is
> found first (so reorganizing the search order is neccessary). You
> could also use the SBOX_REDIRECT_* variables I guess (see
> /scratchbox/doc/variables.txt for more info).

ay!. editing bash config files (again). I've so far managed well with

$ HOME=/home/$USER DISPLAY=:2 PAGER=less LANGUAGE=en_GB /scratchbox/login

(with scratchbox 1.x setting HOME is not necessary :D)

I just want to do as little changes to the system as possible
(and installation notes short) so that there is easy and robust
way to repeat everything again when need arises (for me or someone
else). I once had "broken" scratchbox environment which compiled
software fine but the binaries just did not work. 

I'll keep running subversion out of scratchbox for command options
it does not handle -- but keep suggesting its upgrade whenever
there is suitable moment to do so.


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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-29 Thread Kalle Vahlman

2006/11/29, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

2006/11/28, Tomi Ollila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> my wishlist to scratchbox developers:
>
> 1) make this work (or is there something I did wrong ?) (*)
> 2) update subversion to at least 1.3 so that svn log --limit=n works.

FWIW, you can install self-compiled tools under /host_usr (which is
visible in all targets) and add /host_usr/bin to your PATH.


Actually it is in your PATH already, but the scratchbox version is
found first (so reorganizing the search order is neccessary). You
could also use the SBOX_REDIRECT_* variables I guess (see
/scratchbox/doc/variables.txt for more info).

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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-29 Thread Kalle Vahlman

2006/11/28, Tomi Ollila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

my wishlist to scratchbox developers:

1) make this work (or is there something I did wrong ?) (*)
2) update subversion to at least 1.3 so that svn log --limit=n works.


FWIW, you can install self-compiled tools under /host_usr (which is
visible in all targets) and add /host_usr/bin to your PATH.

I have git there for example.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-28 Thread Tomi Ollila
Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:22:20PM +0200, Tomi Ollila wrote:
>> > Also, sb-menu is really neat and scripts seems to work far better. No
>> > glitches yet.
>> 
>> I've tried to get this work on Fedora Core 6. I can compile binaries,
>> but making debian package fails with following line:
>> 
>> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Using Scratchbox tools to satisfy builddeps
>>  fakeroot debian/rules clean
>> /scratchbox/tools/bin/make: error while loading shared libraries:
>> /scratchbox/tools/lib/libfakeroot-tcp.so.0: cannot restore segment
>> prot after reloc: Permission denied
>
> When I paste this error message into Google, most of the answers on the
> first page say "SELinux".  Which is enabled in Fedora by default, as far
> as I know.

Thanks !!! that was it. # setenforce 0  was all I needed to get it working

> Since I haven't used either Fedora or SELinux, I cannot help you
> further.  I suspect you may get better support on Fedora lists.

Sure. I feel myself a bit dumb, as I've used the above command all the
time last summer when I was developing a wiki application...

> Marius Gedminas

It is just these little things... Probably my FC5 environment will also 
work better when I remember use setenforce 0 there too.


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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-28 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:22:20PM +0200, Tomi Ollila wrote:
> > Also, sb-menu is really neat and scripts seems to work far better. No
> > glitches yet.
> 
> I've tried to get this work on Fedora Core 6. I can compile binaries,
> but making debian package fails with following line:
> 
> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Using Scratchbox tools to satisfy builddeps
>  fakeroot debian/rules clean
> /scratchbox/tools/bin/make: error while loading shared libraries:
> /scratchbox/tools/lib/libfakeroot-tcp.so.0: cannot restore segment
> prot after reloc: Permission denied

When I paste this error message into Google, most of the answers on the
first page say "SELinux".  Which is enabled in Fedora by default, as far
as I know.

Since I haven't used either Fedora or SELinux, I cannot help you
further.  I suspect you may get better support on Fedora lists.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-28 Thread Tomi Ollila
"Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 11/23/06, Tran Van Hoang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all
>> I'm wondering if anyone has been using scratchbox 1.x , in stead of the
>> officially supported 0.9.x to play around with mistral/scirocco?
>>
>> If you have, pls kindly drop me line on the problems you've had or
>> simply saying you have no problems at all. I'd really appreciate it
>
> I'm using it with 1.0.6 on Ubuntu Edgy, kernel 2.6.18 (known to break
> 0.9.8 due /proc changes) with scirocco rootstrap, both ARM and i686
> targets, evertyhing working fine.

I got 0.9.8 work on FC5, with 2.6.18 kernel when I added
LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.6.9 often enough. No luck on FC6 though...

>
> Also, sb-menu is really neat and scripts seems to work far better. No
> glitches yet.

I've tried to get this work on Fedora Core 6. I can compile binaries,
but making debian package fails with following line:

dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Using Scratchbox tools to satisfy builddeps
 fakeroot debian/rules clean
/scratchbox/tools/bin/make: error while loading shared libraries: 
/scratchbox/tools/lib/libfakeroot-tcp.so.0: cannot restore segment prot after 
reloc: Permission denied
make: *** [maemodeb] Error 127

full installation + debian package make test is available at

http://www.iki.fi/too/sb104m21fc6.txt

my wishlist to scratchbox developers:

1) make this work (or is there something I did wrong ?) (*)
2) update subversion to at least 1.3 so that svn log --limit=n works.

 (*) I can help testing...

Tomi

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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-27 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri

On 11/23/06, Tran Van Hoang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all
I'm wondering if anyone has been using scratchbox 1.x , in stead of the
officially supported 0.9.x to play around with mistral/scirocco?

If you have, pls kindly drop me line on the problems you've had or
simply saying you have no problems at all. I'd really appreciate it


I'm using it with 1.0.6 on Ubuntu Edgy, kernel 2.6.18 (known to break
0.9.8 due /proc changes) with scirocco rootstrap, both ARM and i686
targets, evertyhing working fine.

Also, sb-menu is really neat and scripts seems to work far better. No
glitches yet.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-24 Thread Tran Van Hoang
On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 10:42 +0200, ext Riku Voipio wrote:
> Ilpo Stenberg wrote:
> > I have used scratchbox-1.0.6 (apophis) to compile couple of extra 
> > kernel modules
> > (for 2.6.16-2.6.16.rel kernel IST 2006?). I had lot of problems with 
> > installation -
> > binary tar balls didn't work, but .deb -packages did, and so on.
> Can you please specify any problems you had?
> 
> > http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/38-Scratchbox-Apophis-R4-released.html
> >
> > (though sb-conf didn't work, but sb-menu does)
> Noticed one error in that page, updated (and use 2.1 rootstraps while at 
> it).

On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 20:44 +0100, ext Carlos Sanmartin Dominguez
wrote: 
> I was testing a bit the scirocco rootstrap with the apohis r4
> scratchbox. You can read more about the light tests I've made at:
> http://community.igalia.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MaemoInScratchboxApophis
> 

This is great, thanks guys! Still, I'd love to hear more news on this. 
The point is hopefully scratchbox 1.x can/will be officially supported soon

BR,
Hoang,


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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-24 Thread Riku Voipio

Ilpo Stenberg wrote:
I have used scratchbox-1.0.6 (apophis) to compile couple of extra 
kernel modules
(for 2.6.16-2.6.16.rel kernel IST 2006?). I had lot of problems with 
installation -

binary tar balls didn't work, but .deb -packages did, and so on.

Can you please specify any problems you had?


http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/38-Scratchbox-Apophis-R4-released.html

(though sb-conf didn't work, but sb-menu does)
Noticed one error in that page, updated (and use 2.1 rootstraps while at 
it).


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Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-23 Thread Ilpo Stenberg

Hi,

I have used scratchbox-1.0.6 (apophis) to compile couple of extra kernel 
modules
(for 2.6.16-2.6.16.rel kernel IST 2006?). I had lot of problems with 
installation -

binary tar balls didn't work, but .deb -packages did, and so on.

Finally I got it working with instructions here:

http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/38-Scratchbox-Apophis-R4-released.html

(though sb-conf didn't work, but sb-menu does)

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Tran Van Hoang wrote:

Hi all
I'm wondering if anyone has been using scratchbox 1.x , in stead of the
officially supported 0.9.x to play around with mistral/scirocco?

If you have, pls kindly drop me line on the problems you've had or
simply saying you have no problems at all. I'd really appreciate it

Thanks in advance,
BR,
Hoang,


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[maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral

2006-11-23 Thread Tran Van Hoang
Hi all
I'm wondering if anyone has been using scratchbox 1.x , in stead of the
officially supported 0.9.x to play around with mistral/scirocco?

If you have, pls kindly drop me line on the problems you've had or
simply saying you have no problems at all. I'd really appreciate it

Thanks in advance,
BR,
Hoang,


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