Re: Fremantle dialogs at maximum size
Hi, Am Donnerstag 16 April 2009 schrieb Simon Budig: > Right, but what are the options of hildon then? If the dialog contains > too much stuff it can a) extend beyond the screen, b) cut off some > widgets, c) cramp widgets together, possibly having them overlap each > other. None of these options really is a good one. You forgot d) scale the widgets with variable sizes (like lists) so everything fits nicely > than fit comfortably you're probably on a good way on creating a > usability problem, although it is hard to judge without knowledge about > the specific application. I am not putting more into the dialogs. I just want it to e.g. display as many entries in a treeview widget as possible. I want it thus to be as big as possible. > So you're saying that earlier versions did not respect your size request > of 800x480 in non-fullscreen mode (what do you mean exactly by this > btw.)? That sounds like broken behaviour: Why doesn't the dialog respect > your request for 800x480? Because in non-fullscreen there are other things on the screen like the icons to the left and to of the screen that a non-fullscreen app never covers. If i say "make my dialog 800x480" and i am _not_ in fullscreen mode then the dialog should not become a fullscreen dialog. > I am not sure if I really got the problem. I just want a dialog being as big as possible. I want to to cover the entire 800x480 in fullscreen and i want it to cover all available screenspace if not in fullscreen mode. Diablo did this fine, fremantle makes the dialog title disappear behind other things on the screen when not being in fullscreen mode. Till ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle dialogs at maximum size
El jue, 16-04-2009 a las 18:11 +0200, Till Harbaum / Lists escribió: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag 16 April 2009 schrieb Kimmo Hämäläinen: > > Yeah, if you are not fullscreen, you will be limited in height (I'm not > > sure if this is in alpha version, though) so that the user can still > > close the dialog by tapping outside. > The problem is that in non-fullscreen mode i am not limited and > the dialog is bigger than the usable screen space. Do i really have > to hardcode those limits into my program? Why doesn't maemo just > limit the size to a reasonable value instead of creating overlapping > things? > > Also you want me to call gtk_window_fullscreen() on dialogs even if > the main window is already fullscreen when creating that dialog? > > In order to do so i'd have to exactly know how big a dialog can be at > most. That imho doesn't make much sense. Once should be able to > request any size and having hildon take care that nothing is bigger > than useful. As Kimmo already said, this is already fixed and dialogs won't occupy more than the screen height minus a certain delta. It's probably not in the latest SDK release, but it will be in the next one. Claudio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle dialogs at maximum size
Till Harbaum / Lists (li...@harbaum.org) wrote: > how does one make a dialog fill the entire screen? [...] > The problem is that in non-fullscreen mode i am not limited and > the dialog is bigger than the usable screen space. Oh, so you actually did not want your dialog to fill the screen, you want the dialog to be not-bigger-than-the-screen. That was not clear from your original question. > In order to do so i'd have to exactly know how big a dialog can be at > most. That imho doesn't make much sense. Once should be able to > request any size and having hildon take care that nothing is bigger > than useful. Right, but what are the options of hildon then? If the dialog contains too much stuff it can a) extend beyond the screen, b) cut off some widgets, c) cramp widgets together, possibly having them overlap each other. None of these options really is a good one. I believe, that a 800x480 screen usually still needs customization and hard thinking about usability. If you pack more widgets into a dialog than fit comfortably you're probably on a good way on creating a usability problem, although it is hard to judge without knowledge about the specific application. Also I don't get your original description of the earlier behaviour: > I am used to set the dialog size to 800x480 and such a dialog will > fill the entire screen when fullscreen and will be shrinked > appropriately when in non-fullscreen mode. So you're saying that earlier versions did not respect your size request of 800x480 in non-fullscreen mode (what do you mean exactly by this btw.)? That sounds like broken behaviour: Why doesn't the dialog respect your request for 800x480? I am not sure if I really got the problem. Bye, Simon -- si...@budig.de http://simon.budig.de/ simon.bu...@kernelconcepts.de http://www.kernelconcepts.de/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle dialogs at maximum size
Hi, Am Donnerstag 16 April 2009 schrieb Kimmo Hämäläinen: > Yeah, if you are not fullscreen, you will be limited in height (I'm not > sure if this is in alpha version, though) so that the user can still > close the dialog by tapping outside. The problem is that in non-fullscreen mode i am not limited and the dialog is bigger than the usable screen space. Do i really have to hardcode those limits into my program? Why doesn't maemo just limit the size to a reasonable value instead of creating overlapping things? Also you want me to call gtk_window_fullscreen() on dialogs even if the main window is already fullscreen when creating that dialog? In order to do so i'd have to exactly know how big a dialog can be at most. That imho doesn't make much sense. Once should be able to request any size and having hildon take care that nothing is bigger than useful. Till ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle dialogs at maximum size
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 22:22 +0200, ext Simon Budig wrote: > Till Harbaum / Lists (li...@harbaum.org) wrote: > > how does one make a dialog fill the entire screen? I am used to set the > > dialog size to 800x480 and such a dialog will fill the entire screen when > > fullscreen and will be shrinked appropriately when in non-fullscreen mode. > > I'd advise against fiddeling with pixel numbers. While I don't yet have > any experience with the new SDK and have not checked if it actually does > what one expects, I'd suggest to just use gtk_window_fullscreen() on the > dialog. Yeah, if you are not fullscreen, you will be limited in height (I'm not sure if this is in alpha version, though) so that the user can still close the dialog by tapping outside. -kimmo > > Maybe this helps, > Simon > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle dialogs at maximum size
Till Harbaum / Lists (li...@harbaum.org) wrote: > how does one make a dialog fill the entire screen? I am used to set the > dialog size to 800x480 and such a dialog will fill the entire screen when > fullscreen and will be shrinked appropriately when in non-fullscreen mode. I'd advise against fiddeling with pixel numbers. While I don't yet have any experience with the new SDK and have not checked if it actually does what one expects, I'd suggest to just use gtk_window_fullscreen() on the dialog. Maybe this helps, Simon -- si...@budig.de http://simon.budig.de/ simon.bu...@kernelconcepts.de http://www.kernelconcepts.de/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Fremantle dialogs at maximum size
Hi, how does one make a dialog fill the entire screen? I am used to set the dialog size to 800x480 and such a dialog will fill the entire screen when fullscreen and will be shrinked appropriately when in non-fullscreen mode. Unfortunately that doesn't work with the fremantle alpha release. The dialogs title bar gets hidden behind the top main bar (the thing with the application name and the close-x). Is this a bug i don't need to care about? Or do i now have to explicitely scale dialogs for fullscreen and non-fullscreen? Till -- Till Harbaum ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
