Re: Mnemonics (Access keys) usage in Fremantle

2009-09-16 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 17:37 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 16.09.2009, 17:16 +0200 schrieb Cornelius Hald:
> > I thought it's discouraged (but it was only mentioned on tmo), so I
> > filed this bug[1] some time ago.
> > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5128
> 
> Ah, that was the one that I had in mind (I thought it was on a mailing
> list though, that's why I didn't find it before posting this).
> 
> As you state "discouraged by HIG", where exactly is it in the HIG? Or
> was that more like an expectation? :-)

Well, now looks more like an expectation. I think it was kanishou on tmo
who mentioned it. But I'm really not sure anymore and my five minute
search didn't show anything.



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Re: Mnemonics (Access keys) usage in Fremantle

2009-09-16 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El mié, 16-09-2009 a las 17:10 +0200, Andre Klapper escribió:
> In many 3rd party apps, buttons/check boxes/menuitems use mnemonics
> (=underlined letter in a word that can be used together with the Alt key
> for the sake of accessbility).
> 
> In every official Fremantle screenshot I have seen there are no
> mnemonics though.
> 
> Is there any "should not use mnemonics" guideline?
> I could not find anything in the HIG at
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Human_Interface_Guidelines/

We are currently disabling them in the theme layout gtkrc files.
Application developers don't need to worry about that.

Claudio


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Re: Mnemonics (Access keys) usage in Fremantle

2009-09-16 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 16.09.2009, 17:16 +0200 schrieb Cornelius Hald:
> I thought it's discouraged (but it was only mentioned on tmo), so I
> filed this bug[1] some time ago.
> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5128

Ah, that was the one that I had in mind (I thought it was on a mailing
list though, that's why I didn't find it before posting this).

As you state "discouraged by HIG", where exactly is it in the HIG? Or
was that more like an expectation? :-)

andre
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Re: Mnemonics (Access keys) usage in Fremantle

2009-09-16 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 18:12 +0300, Kamen Bundev wrote:
> I think the mnemonics are shown in N810 only if the keyboard is slid
> open. Maybe the same thing applies to Fremantle?

No, looks like they are always shown :(


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Re: Mnemonics (Access keys) usage in Fremantle

2009-09-16 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 17:10 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> In many 3rd party apps, buttons/check boxes/menuitems use mnemonics
> (=underlined letter in a word that can be used together with the Alt key
> for the sake of accessbility).

All Gtk stock items get mnemonics by default. 

> In every official Fremantle screenshot I have seen there are no
> mnemonics though.
> 
> Is there any "should not use mnemonics" guideline?
> I could not find anything in the HIG at
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Human_Interface_Guidelines/

I thought it's discouraged (but it was only mentioned on tmo), so I
filed this bug[1] some time ago.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5128



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Re: Mnemonics (Access keys) usage in Fremantle

2009-09-16 Thread Faheem Pervez
Sure, but the point is that the N900 has no Alt key; keyboard slid
open or not. :)

Best Regards,
Faheem

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Kamen Bundev  wrote:
> I think the mnemonics are shown in N810 only if the keyboard is slid open.
> Maybe the same thing applies to Fremantle?
>
> Regards:
> Bundyo
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Andre Klapper 
> wrote:
>>
>> In many 3rd party apps, buttons/check boxes/menuitems use mnemonics
>> (=underlined letter in a word that can be used together with the Alt key
>> for the sake of accessbility).
>>
>> In every official Fremantle screenshot I have seen there are no
>> mnemonics though.
>>
>> Is there any "should not use mnemonics" guideline?
>> I could not find anything in the HIG at
>>
>> http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Human_Interface_Guidelines/
>>
>> andre
>> --
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Re: Mnemonics (Access keys) usage in Fremantle

2009-09-16 Thread Kamen Bundev
I think the mnemonics are shown in N810 only if the keyboard is slid open.
Maybe the same thing applies to Fremantle?

Regards:
Bundyo

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:

> In many 3rd party apps, buttons/check boxes/menuitems use mnemonics
> (=underlined letter in a word that can be used together with the Alt key
> for the sake of accessbility).
>
> In every official Fremantle screenshot I have seen there are no
> mnemonics though.
>
> Is there any "should not use mnemonics" guideline?
> I could not find anything in the HIG at
>
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Human_Interface_Guidelines/
>
> andre
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Mnemonics (Access keys) usage in Fremantle

2009-09-16 Thread Andre Klapper
In many 3rd party apps, buttons/check boxes/menuitems use mnemonics
(=underlined letter in a word that can be used together with the Alt key
for the sake of accessbility).

In every official Fremantle screenshot I have seen there are no
mnemonics though.

Is there any "should not use mnemonics" guideline?
I could not find anything in the HIG at
http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Human_Interface_Guidelines/

andre
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