Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-16 Thread T Taneli Vahakangas
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Lauri Leukkunen wrote:

> On 3/16/07, T Taneli Vahakangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a project (at work, closed source). I can build it with
> > debian/etch or sb1. With sb2 it gets stuck (or rather, eats all
> > available memory ...) at the first step:
> 
> I don't think it's the toolchain ;) Probably sb2.
> 
> > % autoreconf -i -s --force
> > configure.ac:17: warning: AC_PROG_LEX invoked multiple times
> > ../../lib/autoconf/programs.m4:779: AC_DECL_YYTEXT is expanded from...
> > aclocal.m4:7657: AM_PROG_LEX is expanded from...
> > configure.ac:17: the top level
> >
> > (Here it starts occupying memory. The above messages do NOT
> > appear with etch or sb1.)
> 
> Could be a kind of symlink loop, sb2 is not guarded against them and
> the mapping thing could create them where there really aren't any. You
> could try starting sb2 with --verbose and look at the
> buildroot/sb2_mapping.log for any hints at what it's doing.

Well, it goes on for a while and then stops. The last lines are:

[00_default.lua][.*|grep]:
  __xstat(/home/taneli/buildroot/home/user/XXX/configure.ac) -> 
(/home/taneli/buildroot/home/user/XXX/configure.ac)
[00_default.lua][.*|grep]:
  open(/home/taneli/buildroot/home/user/XXX/configure.ac) -> 
(/home/taneli/buildroot/home/user/XXX/configure.ac)

I can't tell if this is a good sign or a bad sign ...

> > Suppose I build it with sb1, should it work with glibc2.5?
> 
> Probably. Although I'm not exactly sure what you mean ;)

Let me rephrase. Would this work (on N800), or am I going to
waste ummm... 10 minutes trying it myself:

% cp /bin/ls /media/mmc2/arm-lltc/bin
% chroot /media/mmc2/arm-lltc
% /bin/ls

(Supposing of course that /bin/ls is compiled against glibc2.3 or
whatever is in maemo3.0)

Taneli

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Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-16 Thread Lauri Leukkunen

On 3/16/07, T Taneli Vahakangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have a project (at work, closed source). I can build it with
debian/etch or sb1. With sb2 it gets stuck (or rather, eats all
available memory ...) at the first step:


I don't think it's the toolchain ;) Probably sb2.


% autoreconf -i -s --force
configure.ac:17: warning: AC_PROG_LEX invoked multiple times
../../lib/autoconf/programs.m4:779: AC_DECL_YYTEXT is expanded from...
aclocal.m4:7657: AM_PROG_LEX is expanded from...
configure.ac:17: the top level

(Here it starts occupying memory. The above messages do NOT
appear with etch or sb1.)


Could be a kind of symlink loop, sb2 is not guarded against them and
the mapping thing could create them where there really aren't any. You
could try starting sb2 with --verbose and look at the
buildroot/sb2_mapping.log for any hints at what it's doing.


Suppose I build it with sb1, should it work with glibc2.5?


Probably. Although I'm not exactly sure what you mean ;)

/lauri
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Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-16 Thread T Taneli Vahakangas

Hello,

sorry for delay, I was sick, kids were sick ...

Quim (& others at nokia): I suppose there's no public ETA for
glibc 2.5?

Lauri, I haven't tried glibc yet, but the toolchain has some
problems:

I have a project (at work, closed source). I can build it with
debian/etch or sb1. With sb2 it gets stuck (or rather, eats all
available memory ...) at the first step:

% autoreconf -i -s --force
configure.ac:17: warning: AC_PROG_LEX invoked multiple times
../../lib/autoconf/programs.m4:779: AC_DECL_YYTEXT is expanded from...
aclocal.m4:7657: AM_PROG_LEX is expanded from...
configure.ac:17: the top level

(Here it starts occupying memory. The above messages do NOT
appear with etch or sb1.)

Suppose I build it with sb1, should it work with glibc2.5?

Taneli

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Lauri Leukkunen wrote:

> Bleh, damn gmail.. Sent this directly to Taneli, here's the same for
> the list as well:
> 
> http://rahina.org/sb2/arm-lltc-gcc412-glibc25.tar.bz2
> 
> Not just the glibc, but you can extract it from there. The toolchain
> itself is built for amd64.
> 
> /lauri
> 
> On 3/12/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We are going to use glibc 2.5 at some point. This will bring NPTL
> > support.
> >
> > In the meantime... you will need the help of someone more clever than
> > me.  :)
> >
> > On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 10:28 +0200, ext T Taneli Vahakangas wrote:
> > > where can I find NPTL-enabled libc (for 770 or N800)? If it isn't
> > > available already, how would I go about making one?
> > --
> > Quim Gil - http://maemo.org
> >
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(Flame) Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-12 Thread Kees Jongenburger

On 3/12/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 3/12/07, Kees Jongenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/12/07, Lauri Leukkunen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Bleh, damn gmail.. Sent this directly to Taneli, here's the same for
> > the list as well:
> Please Don't blame you mail client

Why not? GMail could recognize the "X-BeenThere: maemo-developers@maemo.org"
and "List-*" headers and
a) add a reply to list option
b) links to the archive, subscribe/unsubscribe options, etc

I like GMail for lists because of it's ability to handle volumes of mail and
search, sort, and group messages, it's inability to handle standard and
common mailing list headers is annoying.


I knew I never should have started this disc anyway.
sorry about that. If I have to blame somebody I would prefer to blame
exchange that discards bulk flags over gmail any day.


So, yeah... blame the mail client, and send a suggestion to their
development team. Voicing your opinion that "This list is managed backwards
and should change" is cool, too, but don't let the mailer get off without a
lashing just because you're blaming someone else.


Alright, the mail client should make it easy to reply to the mailing
list. and Yes I am / was annoyed. Still that does not change my
opinion.

I am in here for the fun of it and I understand that this is not helping.

greetings
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Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-12 Thread Paul Klapperich

On 3/12/07, Kees Jongenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 3/12/07, Lauri Leukkunen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bleh, damn gmail.. Sent this directly to Taneli, here's the same for
> the list as well:
Please Don't blame you mail client



Why not? GMail could recognize the "X-BeenThere: maemo-developers@maemo.org"
and "List-*" headers and
a) add a reply to list option
b) links to the archive, subscribe/unsubscribe options, etc

I like GMail for lists because of it's ability to handle volumes of mail and
search, sort, and group messages, it's inability to handle standard and
common mailing list headers is annoying.

So, yeah... blame the mail client, and send a suggestion to their
development team. Voicing your opinion that "This list is managed backwards
and should change" is cool, too, but don't let the mailer get off without a
lashing just because you're blaming someone else.

--Paul
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Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-12 Thread Kees Jongenburger

On 3/12/07, Lauri Leukkunen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bleh, damn gmail.. Sent this directly to Taneli, here's the same for
the list as well:

Please Don't blame you mail client

Some guys, usually mutt users (also on this list) think this is the
way it should work
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
This is an ongoing fight. but I have never ever been on a mailing list
where people where
nagging that the reply was sent to the list.(other than people not
being happy that exchange was sending replies to the whole list
telling the list the planned holidays and phone numbers where they
could be reached).

With the current setup this is a real hot topic.

Sometimes life is just not fair.

greetings
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Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-12 Thread Lauri Leukkunen

Bleh, damn gmail.. Sent this directly to Taneli, here's the same for
the list as well:

http://rahina.org/sb2/arm-lltc-gcc412-glibc25.tar.bz2

Not just the glibc, but you can extract it from there. The toolchain
itself is built for amd64.

/lauri

On 3/12/07, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

We are going to use glibc 2.5 at some point. This will bring NPTL
support.

In the meantime... you will need the help of someone more clever than
me.  :)

On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 10:28 +0200, ext T Taneli Vahakangas wrote:
> where can I find NPTL-enabled libc (for 770 or N800)? If it isn't
> available already, how would I go about making one?
--
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Re: NPTL support?

2007-03-12 Thread Quim Gil
We are going to use glibc 2.5 at some point. This will bring NPTL
support.

In the meantime... you will need the help of someone more clever than
me.  :)

On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 10:28 +0200, ext T Taneli Vahakangas wrote:
> where can I find NPTL-enabled libc (for 770 or N800)? If it isn't
> available already, how would I go about making one?
-- 
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NPTL support?

2007-03-11 Thread T Taneli Vahakangas

(let's retry with a subject line)

Hello all,

where can I find NPTL-enabled libc (for 770 or N800)? If it isn't
available already, how would I go about making one?

(I tried google already, but didn't find anything, except that
currently only linuxthreads is supported ...)

Cheers,

Taneli

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