Re: Remove Darius?
to save us all time Darius click the link at the bottom of the emails scroll to the bottom of that page, enter your email address, and click Unsubscribe to remove yourself... thanks... Darius Jack wrote: > Hi, > > I have already requested my name to be removed from your subscription list, > so please don't continue silly threads like that snipped insanity... > __ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
Hi, I have already requested my name to be removed from your subscription list, so please don't continue silly threads like that. As I see, some developers at Maemo are overcharged with bad energy and devil's frustration , so just let me live in peace, far from your virtual problems and your off-topics spamming my mailbox. Turn your energy (if any) to save Maemo project and concentrate yourself on real challenges not your egoisti self EGO problems. I am right in my opinions and decision, as my last thread "Please do your best to save Maemo project (hardware and software part)" stays unread and without any comments. I can't accept any community driven by devil's energy, self-conflicted. It may takes months to make Maemo project back to life. So blame yourself and only yourself personally, for your wrong doing and defeat (this is directed to few developers only, overcharged with devil's energy and driven by egoistic Self EGO killing Maemo community project). __ " Please do your best to save Maemo project (hardware and software part) Saturday, 6 September, 2008 2:51 PM From: "Darius Jack" Add sender to Contacts To: "maemo-developers@maemo.org" Hi, please do your best to save Maemo project (software and hardware part). Please show your support to excellent job done for Maemo project by Quim Gil marketing manager, open source Maemo Software @ Nokia Please try to avoid any frustration in public place, please nominate some leaders among maemo developers to avoid competition conflicts. I am really afraid Maemo Project (hardware part) is partly closed. My private opinion is based on traffic generated by maemo users at InternetTabletTalk, by frustration shown in public place by some developers, by Maemo.com web site getting more and more bureauctratic place, by comments made by Quim disclosing a little interest by Nokia VIPs to listen to what Maemo community says. And finally. Great place, great Welcome page devoted to Nokia N810 and N810 Wimax version, I set up one year ago as Google Group Nokia Internet Tablet http://groups.google.com/group/nokia-internet-tablet?hl=en has been hacked by knowing man and Nokia Internet Tablet Welcome page with some hundred of web links to services providing state-of-the-art coverage to Maemo project (pictures, text, videos) has gone forever . The issue is, Welcome page's status was set to edit-protected by Google, so no third person was in capacity to remove it. As you see, there is no Welcome page at all. Welcome page option is off. So as not to enter into basic investigation, just ask Google, who did it. I contacted local Google office, Google office in Ireland, Google HQ emailed Google Groups manager in charge. So mayby my conclusion is well grounded and N810 Wimax edition is temporary closed. If I am wrong please tell more details. In either case, do your best to save Maemo project. There is a number of Linux based tablets, cell phones - Eee PC by Asus, A1200 by Motorola. Linux is excellent in embedded devices. Issue is GUI in embedded devices. Stylus operated PDA technology is 20 years old. No chance for market success. Multitouch + Maemo + glas replacing foil makes another generation of maemo hardware. There is a conflict of interest among administrator of InternetTabletTalk and other hot Nokia Internet Tablet places. Last year administrator of I.T.T removed all 3 messages I posted to I.T.T. forum to N 700, N800, N810 to say hello about new GG Nokia Internet Tablet , being afraid to loose traffic to I.T.T. Doing so he hurt Nokia's Maemo business, hurt Nokia Internet Tablet users as only N.I.T. provided some hundred valid web links to Maemo software, hardware nice places as Semantic WWW Magazine (R&D Project). I.T.T. is web based forum and as a such, provides no multimedia content, no web links to third parties, so there is no conflict of interest. And the more, N.I.T. acted exactly complementary to I.T.T. And thousand visiting N.I.T. have had opportunity to get valuable information from I.T.T. discussions so traffic generated was much greater to provide some extra financing by ads placed at I.T.T. Today administrator of I.T.T. get involved in ad personam conflicts, not being able to say one word, why Nokia selected low quality gps in N810, supported by network assistance. The issue with AGPS is vwery clear. In the States, tablet users get flat rate cell access to the Internet. In Europe and in other parts of world, roaming takes place, so moving from one country to another with AGPS on you pay roaming overheads amounting 10 times basic flat cell rate if provided. So ppl going abroad try not to pick up a cell phone not to pay very high roaming fees. What is so very simple and clear, makes for I.T.T. administrator a way to make ad personam remarks. Closing. N.I.T. Semantic WWW Magazine provided at the top web link to Maemo repositories (all repositories collected by one man) to save time of happy Maemo users to spend hours on making G
Re: Remove Darius?
Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > David Greaves wrote: >> As a member of this list I am finding Darius' postings unacceptable for a >> -developer list. >> >> If he continues to post in this manner I would support his removal. >> >> Anyone else or is it just me? > > I have a great idea for reducing the noise on the developers list caused > by one troublesome poster: let's create a thread asking that he be > removed, and have everyone on the list reply saying they agree! Firstly: I deliberately did not *ask* for Darius to be removed. I rather hoped enough people would reply and he'd get the message and either change his post style to respect the wishes of his peers - or just leave. In the event he's posted a request to leave - but then he's done that before. Secondly: Dave, you tried to resolve this off-list and didn't get anywhere; we know since Darius posted your private mail to a public list (a huge netiquette no-no). Thirdly: This thread was absolutely on-topic for a -developer list. Sometimes we need to look after the group and a post to the list is the only way to address the group. Darius causes a lot of irritation, has a reputation (apparently) for being a troll, and rather than have a lot of people quietly being annoyed (or loudly annoyed on IRC) I felt it was time to take a simple poll. That is, it _was_ on topic until you (and now I) responded. Lets leave it at that. Darius is more than welcome to engage in -developers topics (which he kinda did for several months - although IIRC most of them seemed to be random requests for other people to work on his pet project of the hour). David PS I suggest any follow-ups to maemo-community or IRC. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
Hi, David Greaves wrote: > As a member of this list I am finding Darius' postings unacceptable for a > -developer list. > > If he continues to post in this manner I would support his removal. > > Anyone else or is it just me? I have a great idea for reducing the noise on the developers list caused by one troublesome poster: let's create a thread asking that he be removed, and have everyone on the list reply saying they agree! Please, people - let's try to keep the list on-topic. The easiest way to do this is to stop reading & replying to off-topic emails. Regards, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
I vote for this too. He's a troll and a very good one indeed. I can accept (well, kind of) him/her/it write as he do on other Maemo mailing lists, but not on this one. Aniello On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Faheem Pervez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm another person who supports the idea of his removal. > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM, David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> As a member of this list I am finding Darius' postings unacceptable for a >> -developer list. >> >> If he continues to post in this manner I would support his removal. >> >> Anyone else or is it just me? >> >> David >> ___ >> maemo-developers mailing list >> maemo-developers@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > -- anidel ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
I'm another person who supports the idea of his removal. On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM, David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a member of this list I am finding Darius' postings unacceptable for a > -developer list. > > If he continues to post in this manner I would support his removal. > > Anyone else or is it just me? > > David > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
Am Samstag, den 06.09.2008, 17:51 +0300 schrieb Felipe Contreras: > Just ignore him on-the-record, is my suggestion. Even by filtering his postings to /dev/null I still receive follow-up list posts by people that are willing to discuss instead of ignore. I'm also in favor of removing. https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers notes how to contact the list maintainers. Am Samstag, den 06.09.2008, 11:31 -0400 schrieb Mike Lococo: > Right now there isn't (to my knowledge) any published set of > appropriate > use guidelines for the list by which one can judge the behavior of > any > particular member. The Maemo community might want to initiate something similar to http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct , though reality in GNOME is sometimes far away from these recommendations. ;-) andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
David Greaves wrote: > As a member of this list I am finding Darius' postings unacceptable for a > -developer list. > > If he continues to post in this manner I would support his removal. Right now there isn't (to my knowledge) any published set of appropriate use guidelines for the list by which one can judge the behavior of any particular member. In the absence of such guidelines, and moderators empowered to enforce them, banning a particular email address seems like bad mojo (not to mention likely ineffective). That said, in the past I've found his posts more inflamatory than contributory and I've killfiled him long ago. I've been much happier since, the whole tone of the list feels much less combative and negative without his posts (I've even left in threads and responses to his posts, which are generally fine without his contributions). My recommendation is to trash his messages without reading them, and don't feed him. Thanks, Mike Lococo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 05:51:49PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Just ignore him on-the-record, is my suggestion. People have suggested this before, but it really difficult to get the whole list membership to agree to ignoring him. Therefore the troll persists... /olle ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
+1 On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM, David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a member of this list I am finding Darius' postings unacceptable for a > -developer list. > > If he continues to post in this manner I would support his removal. > > Anyone else or is it just me? > > David > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 03:50:42PM +0100, Sebastian 'CrashandDie' Lauwers wrote: > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Eric Warnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would support that as well. > > And so would I. Please! Maybe it would be more effective to poll for anyone interested in keeping him? /olle ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Eric Warnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would support that as well. I don't see the point of his posts, but if he is legitimate (not a troll) then I hope he learns how to communicate whatever he is trying to say. My bet is he is some kind of 'support vampire' [1], if you are reading this I suggest you try to communicate with some people on the community off-the-record so you can come up with more useful feedback. You cannot change the world unless you understand how it works. Just ignore him on-the-record, is my suggestion. [1] http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires -- Felipe Contreras ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Eric Warnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would support that as well. And so would I. S. -- question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Remove Darius?
I would support that as well. -Eric On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:34 am, David Greaves wrote: > As a member of this list I am finding Darius' postings unacceptable > for a > -developer list. > > If he continues to post in this manner I would support his removal. > > Anyone else or is it just me? > > David > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Remove Darius?
As a member of this list I am finding Darius' postings unacceptable for a -developer list. If he continues to post in this manner I would support his removal. Anyone else or is it just me? David ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
