Re: Standard widget spacing and padding?
On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 16:39 +0300, ext Murray Cumming wrote: Did you discover anything? Sorry to bug you, but I still feel sure that some document exists somewhere. Let's move this to Documenting widget spacing requirements https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1280 Murray, please CC yourself there. Thanks. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Standard widget spacing and padding?
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 15:16 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 18:38 +0300, Kuosmanen Tuomas (Nokia-M/Helsinki) wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 15:11 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:11 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: I can't find anything in the various Maemo documents about the standard spacing that Maemo applications should have between and around widgets. For instance, for the GNOME HIG, this is usually 6 pixels between widgets and 12 pixels padding around the window: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html This seems like something that should be in the Maemo porting guide http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_porting_to_maemo_bora.html as well as the UI specification: http://www.maemo.org/community/hildon_ui.html Anyone? I'm sure that Nokia has some kind of standard somewhere for this. Heya! The margin default padding is 6 pixels, and if a bigger padding is desired, either margin double (6x2 = 12px) or triple (6x3 = 18px) is used. If a smaller margin is needed, margin half (3px) is there for you. So basically using 12px paddings between widgets should be a good starting point. Currently our theme adds this weird padding around the window anyway, so I think apps should not use much padding around themselves. I'll check this and the widget padding tomorrow when there are more people in the office in the morning, and will correct it if I am assuming wrong. Thanks, but is there any official documentation for this, or is it just an informal standard? Did you discover anything? Sorry to bug you, but I still feel sure that some document exists somewhere. Btw, I'll be happy to assist with layout of your application if you want - poke me on irc (tigert on #maemo in freenode) or send email. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Standard widget spacing and padding?
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 18:38 +0300, Kuosmanen Tuomas (Nokia-M/Helsinki) wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 15:11 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:11 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: I can't find anything in the various Maemo documents about the standard spacing that Maemo applications should have between and around widgets. For instance, for the GNOME HIG, this is usually 6 pixels between widgets and 12 pixels padding around the window: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html This seems like something that should be in the Maemo porting guide http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_porting_to_maemo_bora.html as well as the UI specification: http://www.maemo.org/community/hildon_ui.html Anyone? I'm sure that Nokia has some kind of standard somewhere for this. Heya! The margin default padding is 6 pixels, and if a bigger padding is desired, either margin double (6x2 = 12px) or triple (6x3 = 18px) is used. If a smaller margin is needed, margin half (3px) is there for you. So basically using 12px paddings between widgets should be a good starting point. Currently our theme adds this weird padding around the window anyway, so I think apps should not use much padding around themselves. I'll check this and the widget padding tomorrow when there are more people in the office in the morning, and will correct it if I am assuming wrong. Thanks, but is there any official documentation for this, or is it just an informal standard? Btw, I'll be happy to assist with layout of your application if you want - poke me on irc (tigert on #maemo in freenode) or send email. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: Standard widget spacing and padding?
Hi all, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Murray Cumming Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 16:12 To: maemo-developers Subject: Re: Standard widget spacing and padding? On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:11 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: I can't find anything in the various Maemo documents about the standard spacing that Maemo applications should have between and around widgets. For instance, for the GNOME HIG, this is usually 6 pixels between widgets and 12 pixels padding around the window: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html This seems like something that should be in the Maemo porting guide http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_porting_to_maemo_bora. html as well as the UI specification: http://www.maemo.org/community/hildon_ui.html Anyone? I'm sure that Nokia has some kind of standard somewhere for this. When asked, I got the following, which should be ok as a rule of thumb. logical margins: MARGIN_DEFAULT 6 px Typically between a text element and a graphic MARGIN_DOUBLE 12 px Typically between two text elements MARGIN_TRIPLE 18 px Typically between larger areas MARGIN_HALF3 px Used in special occasions with limited space available Best wishes, Dirk. ___ maemo-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Standard widget spacing and padding?
On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 15:11 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:11 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: I can't find anything in the various Maemo documents about the standard spacing that Maemo applications should have between and around widgets. For instance, for the GNOME HIG, this is usually 6 pixels between widgets and 12 pixels padding around the window: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html This seems like something that should be in the Maemo porting guide http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_porting_to_maemo_bora.html as well as the UI specification: http://www.maemo.org/community/hildon_ui.html Anyone? I'm sure that Nokia has some kind of standard somewhere for this. Heya! The margin default padding is 6 pixels, and if a bigger padding is desired, either margin double (6x2 = 12px) or triple (6x3 = 18px) is used. If a smaller margin is needed, margin half (3px) is there for you. So basically using 12px paddings between widgets should be a good starting point. Currently our theme adds this weird padding around the window anyway, so I think apps should not use much padding around themselves. I'll check this and the widget padding tomorrow when there are more people in the office in the morning, and will correct it if I am assuming wrong. Btw, I'll be happy to assist with layout of your application if you want - poke me on irc (tigert on #maemo in freenode) or send email. //Tuomas -- A: No Q: Should i quote this on the top? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Standard widget spacing and padding?
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:11 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: I can't find anything in the various Maemo documents about the standard spacing that Maemo applications should have between and around widgets. For instance, for the GNOME HIG, this is usually 6 pixels between widgets and 12 pixels padding around the window: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html This seems like something that should be in the Maemo porting guide http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_porting_to_maemo_bora.html as well as the UI specification: http://www.maemo.org/community/hildon_ui.html Anyone? I'm sure that Nokia has some kind of standard somewhere for this. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Standard widget spacing and padding?
I can't find anything in the various Maemo documents about the standard spacing that Maemo applications should have between and around widgets. For instance, for the GNOME HIG, this is usually 6 pixels between widgets and 12 pixels padding around the window: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html This seems like something that should be in the Maemo porting guide http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_porting_to_maemo_bora.html as well as the UI specification: http://www.maemo.org/community/hildon_ui.html -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers