Re: TSG for CSSU?

2012-02-20 Thread robert bauer
I've responded on the forum.  Sorry, but I just can't keep up with two
separate communication paths.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82372

Rob

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Andrew Flegg  wrote:

> On Thursday, 16 February 2012, robert bauer  wrote:
> >
> > I propose a TSG (Technical Steering Group) for CSSU [...]. I have
> sometimes seen the project get delayed because MohammedAG is temporarily
> unavailable, and that there is uncertainty or lack of input over how some
> decisions get made, etc.
>
> What did MohammadAG say to this proposal? He was the only person who
> stepped up to do this, and has since been joined by merlin1991 et al. The
> Community Council are a facilitating body, rather than an owning body, so
> it's in your remit to assist MAG in this, if he's asked for help. But I
> don't think you have the power for a "hostile" takeover, which is why I'm
> asking. Of course, the CSSU could always be forked - but that's dependent
> on having someone to do the work.
>
> It's "doers" that Maemo, and the CSSU is missing, not people to sit by the
> sidelines and direct. For example, the stable branch came out because
> someone was willing to put in the work to define how it should be created,
> how it should be managed and then to do that. Many people *said* there
> should be a stable Maemo 5 CSSU, but if someone isn't willing to help with
> the work, so what?
>
> What would the CSSU TSG do? Can you give concrete examples? As a
> *technical* steering, how would candidates' eligibility be established so
> that a sensible and consistent set of architectural decisions would be made?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
>
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Re: TSG for CSSU?

2012-02-16 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thursday, 16 February 2012, robert bauer  wrote:
>
> I propose a TSG (Technical Steering Group) for CSSU [...]. I have
sometimes seen the project get delayed because MohammedAG is temporarily
unavailable, and that there is uncertainty or lack of input over how some
decisions get made, etc.

What did MohammadAG say to this proposal? He was the only person who
stepped up to do this, and has since been joined by merlin1991 et al. The
Community Council are a facilitating body, rather than an owning body, so
it's in your remit to assist MAG in this, if he's asked for help. But I
don't think you have the power for a "hostile" takeover, which is why I'm
asking. Of course, the CSSU could always be forked - but that's dependent
on having someone to do the work.

It's "doers" that Maemo, and the CSSU is missing, not people to sit by the
sidelines and direct. For example, the stable branch came out because
someone was willing to put in the work to define how it should be created,
how it should be managed and then to do that. Many people *said* there
should be a stable Maemo 5 CSSU, but if someone isn't willing to help with
the work, so what?

What would the CSSU TSG do? Can you give concrete examples? As a
*technical* steering, how would candidates' eligibility be established so
that a sensible and consistent set of architectural decisions would be made?

Thanks in advance,

Andrew


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TSG for CSSU?

2012-02-16 Thread robert bauer
Hello

I propose a TSG (Technical Steering Group) for CSSU - 3 community members
meritocratically selected from within the project who will oversee initial
decision making over such things as project management, release dates,
features, architecture and roadmap. To the extent it means anything,
Council can delegate some of its authority so that the TSG can hopefully
address related administrative tasks directly and more quickly without
Council intervening on its behalf. I propose that the TSG membership is
reviewed with the same frequency as Council - every 6 months.

The main reasoning being that a TSG will make the project clearer to the
rest of the community. I have sometimes seen the project get delayed
because MohammedAG is temporarily unavailable, and that there is
uncertainty or lack of input over how some decisions get made, etc. I'd
also like people to see more clearly how to address the project with their
ideas and contributions.

Rob
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