Re: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an upgrade?

2008-12-31 Thread tz
Thanks again for fixing this.  I'm did an apt-get update from
scratchbox and am getting the new version (through apt-get source, not
manually downloading).

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Soumya Bijjal
soumya.3.bij...@nokia.com wrote:
 Hi,

 The bluez-utils sources is pointing to version 3.28-0osso6 now.

 Regards,
 Soumya



 Bijjal Soumya.3 (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote:

 Hello!

 bluez-utils 3.28-0osso7 in the SDK repository is a costly mistake.  We
 sincerely apologize for the pain this has caused. We have tried to rectify
 it on Friday. But apparently, its source is still not pointing to osso6
 version. As soon as this is fixed, I will post here again.

 Regards,
 Soumya





 -Original Message-
 From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org on behalf of ext tz
 Sent: Sat 12/20/2008 4:53 PM
 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
 Subject: Re: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an
 upgrade?

 Thank You to Nokia.  Bluez-utils 3.28-osso6 appeared on Friday and I'm
 doing the required fixes to my packaging now.  (apt-get update doesn't
 see it so the Packages.gz generator probably hasn't seen it or
 something is still cached as apt-get source still pulls osso4).
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Re: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an upgrade?

2008-12-29 Thread Soumya Bijjal
Hi,

The bluez-utils sources is pointing to version 3.28-0osso6 now.

Regards,
Soumya



Bijjal Soumya.3 (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote:
 Hello!
 
 bluez-utils 3.28-0osso7 in the SDK repository is a costly mistake.  We 
 sincerely apologize for the pain this has caused. We have tried to 
 rectify it on Friday. But apparently, its source is still not pointing 
 to osso6 version. As soon as this is fixed, I will post here again.
 
 Regards,
 Soumya
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org on behalf of ext tz
 Sent: Sat 12/20/2008 4:53 PM
 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
 Subject: Re: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an 
 upgrade?
 
 Thank You to Nokia.  Bluez-utils 3.28-osso6 appeared on Friday and I'm
 doing the required fixes to my packaging now.  (apt-get update doesn't
 see it so the Packages.gz generator probably hasn't seen it or
 something is still cached as apt-get source still pulls osso4).
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Re: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an upgrade?

2008-12-21 Thread tz
Thank you - it seemed to take some time for the package.gz spiders to
find things, but everything seems in sync with osso6 and my package is
updating properly (from extras-devel - now there is a dichotomy with
pre-5.2008 needing osso4 and post needing osso6, but after the upgrade
becomes common I can promote it to extras).

The biggest annoyance is before the correction there was no history or
link or whatever I could use to fix it myself (without causing worse
evils than I'm trying to solve).

When I tried my own upgrade I had a problem with the SSU and had to
reflash my Wimax n810 (the metalayer crawler bug
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3938 which I traced because it
happened again with supld and added a long comment explaining where
the fix for that needs to be - it affects any /etc/init.d entry).

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:13 PM,  soumya.3.bij...@nokia.com wrote:
 Hello!

 bluez-utils 3.28-0osso7 in the SDK repository is a costly mistake.  We
 sincerely apologize for the pain this has caused. We have tried to rectify
 it on Friday. But apparently, its source is still not pointing to osso6
 version. As soon as this is fixed, I will post here again.

 Regards,
 Soumya
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Re: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an upgrade?

2008-12-20 Thread tz
Thank You to Nokia.  Bluez-utils 3.28-osso6 appeared on Friday and I'm
doing the required fixes to my packaging now.  (apt-get update doesn't
see it so the Packages.gz generator probably hasn't seen it or
something is still cached as apt-get source still pulls osso4).
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RE: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an upgrade?

2008-12-20 Thread soumya.3.bijjal
Hello!

bluez-utils 3.28-0osso7 in the SDK repository is a costly mistake.  We 
sincerely apologize for the pain this has caused. We have tried to rectify it 
on Friday. But apparently, its source is still not pointing to osso6 version. 
As soon as this is fixed, I will post here again. 

Regards,
Soumya





-Original Message-
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org on behalf of ext tz
Sent: Sat 12/20/2008 4:53 PM
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an upgrade?
 
Thank You to Nokia.  Bluez-utils 3.28-osso6 appeared on Friday and I'm
doing the required fixes to my packaging now.  (apt-get update doesn't
see it so the Packages.gz generator probably hasn't seen it or
something is still cached as apt-get source still pulls osso4).
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Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an upgrade?

2008-12-18 Thread tz
Over the past few months I've been asking to the point of annoyance
what to do about bluez-utils-test since it is Maemo supported,
therefore has dependencies on the official version.

So with the most recent upgrade my application is now completely uninstallable.

On the tablet after the upgrade is:

bluez-utils-3.28-0osso6.

The only thing in any repository (including source) is labeled osso7!

If only for the GPL, where is the exact source corresponding to osso6?

I can't (without falsifying versions) build an osso6 version of
bluez-utils-test.

Upgrading bluez-utils to osso7 breaks osso-software-version-rx44
(which is dependent on osso6).  Perhaps this is OK, but I'd rather not
force all users to have to uninstall this metapackage (does it happen
automatically)?

I'm also having problems  with the SDK - I can't even do apt-get
source to get anything but osso4 there - I have to download the
components manually.

Worse, no one can install the most recent version of my program since
for some reason application manager can't resolve the dependencies.
The program is only available as a deb (at http://www.zdez.org), but
it sits there and lists python2.5-gnome and python2.5-bluez in the
Problems tabs.  They aren't user so can't be installed
manually/separately, but are in extras.  apt-get install will work
from the command line, but application manager won't.

Is there any way Nokia might release an upgrade of such magnitude to a
-devel area first so we can test it and undo any breakage BEFORE the
users upgrade and break everything?

Is there a reason they aren't providing source to the GPL components
of the upgrade?  Only older or newer ones (the latter for the sdk)?

I am really trying hard to play by the rules, but it seems futile
since Nokia comes out of the bluez with upgrades that break everything
I'm doing and aren't easily fixed.
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