Re: chip of cellular/wireless modem

2011-02-27 Thread DmitryTurin . narod . ru
>Anyway - you can't practically break the signature algorithm of the 
firmware signing - unless there is some defect in the code.

Probably, we do not understand each other.
I need to send package with abnormal AKEY,
that cellular provider does not withdraw money for call to not him (to not 
provider).

It seems much more easy, than to sign by _normal_ AKEY of other cellular number,
which you imply.

I do not need to  break signature algorithm at all (for second modem in phone).
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Re: chip of cellular/wireless modem

2011-02-27 Thread DmitryTurin . narod . ru
>there are hundred of channels, and modem can be turned to only one

*) Phone, which support 2 SIMs, has 2 modems?
   And this phone listens 2 channels (in general case, when 2 SIMs specify 
different channels)?

*) There is no any _hardware_ restriction in modem to be turned to arbitrary 
channel, right?


>Distributing of this code [code to be executed inside modem itself,
and sending package with abnormal AKEY] in the UK would be a criminal act?

*) I suppose, there is no particular law, which forbid to send package with 
abnormal AKEY.
   What is the more general act, prohibited by law, you imply?

   If intention has weight, speach goes about not to disturb work of cellular 
provider,
   but about to send package so, that provider do not withdraw money from any 
SIM.

*) What is the other countries, in which usage of mentioned code is forbidden 
too?


>'manufactoring' this code for the first time would be a separate offence

I do not understand, clarify, please.

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Re: chip of cellular/wireless modem

2011-02-26 Thread Ian Stirling

DmitryTurin.narod.ru wrote:

If there is a need for:
*) catch packages of another phones,


You can't do this generally - the hardware cannot do general purpose 
scanning.

For various technical reasons - there are hundreds of channels,
and the modem can be tuned to only one, amongst others.

Also, for legal reasons the software which runs on the modem chipset
will not support this. This software is completely seperate from the
application softwae - maemo/meego.


*) send package with abnormal AKEY (or abnormal SIS)
than it is necessary to patch code of "pnatd",
working directly with modem, or some other code?


You would need to break the signature algorithm in the modem code
signing, reverse engineer the interfaces, and then binary patch
the modem code to add this functionality.

Distributing this code - in the UK - for example - would then be
a criminal act - once it's first used to do criminal acts, and
you've been notified of this.
'manufacturing' this code for the first time would be a seperate
offence.

In short - find another platform where it can be done.
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Re: chip of cellular/wireless modem

2011-02-26 Thread DmitryTurin . narod . ru
If there is a need for:
*) catch packages of another phones,
*) send package with abnormal AKEY (or abnormal SIS)
than it is necessary to patch code of "pnatd",
working directly with modem, or some other code?

AT-commands of modem are implemented
by hardware or by software?




21.02.2011, 20:26, "Ian Stirling" :
> DmitryTurin.narod.ru wrote:
>
>>  What is the concrete name of chip of cellular/wireless modem
>>  in Nokia 770, Nokia N800, Nokia N810, Nokia N900 ?
>>
>>  P.S.
>>  E.g. for Nokia N900:
>>  As i read, "TI OMAP 3430 SoC" does not contain integrated modem?
>
> No, it doesn't.
> The n900 has no available documentation on the modem.
> There is limited information on the chipset - codename Rapuyama.
> http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Phone
> http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Schematic
>
> This modem has its own RAM.
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Re: chip of cellular/wireless modem

2011-02-21 Thread ed
> What is the concrete name of chip of cellular/wireless modem
> in Nokia 770, Nokia N800, Nokia N810, Nokia N900 ?
>
>
> P.S.
> E.g. for Nokia N900:
> As i read, "TI OMAP 3430 SoC" does not contain integrated modem?

The 770, N800 and N810 do not contain any cellular device at all.  They
are not phones, they were sold as "Phone Accessories".  To get
connectivity they could connect to a phone via Bluetooth, or they could
use WiFi.

Ed Okerson

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Re: chip of cellular/wireless modem

2011-02-21 Thread Ian Stirling

DmitryTurin.narod.ru wrote:

What is the concrete name of chip of cellular/wireless modem
in Nokia 770, Nokia N800, Nokia N810, Nokia N900 ?


P.S.
E.g. for Nokia N900:
As i read, "TI OMAP 3430 SoC" does not contain integrated modem?


No, it doesn't.
The n900 has no available documentation on the modem.
There is limited information on the chipset - codename Rapuyama.
http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Phone
http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Schematic

This modem has its own RAM.
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chip of cellular/wireless modem

2011-02-21 Thread DmitryTurin . narod . ru
What is the concrete name of chip of cellular/wireless modem
in Nokia 770, Nokia N800, Nokia N810, Nokia N900 ?


P.S.
E.g. for Nokia N900:
As i read, "TI OMAP 3430 SoC" does not contain integrated modem?




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