Re: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 04:09:17PM +0100, ext Mike Cowlishaw wrote: > It doesn't completely fix the problems though .. the other big problem is > still there, in that in X-terminal pressing the enter key brings up the > thumb keyboard and does not enter the data. One can achieve an Enter by > clicking on the window (which brings up the stylus keyboard) and then on the > Enter key there, but that's terribly inconvenient. Any suggestions? Use Enter on your numpad. This is a broken UI specification and apparently isn't going to be changed. Cheers, Daniel signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)
Hi, ext Mike Cowlishaw wrote: > Hi, many thanks ... I can form that: > >>> If you want to disable pressure information usage, you need to run >>> the device X server with XInput protocol/extension disabled. Just >>> add "-extension XInputExtension" to the /etc/init.d/x-server file >>> X server options and reboot the device. >>> >>> Where it is added to the end of the >>> ARGS="" string, preceded by a space. > > Does indeed mean that the mouse over X11vnc now works on the task manager > pane on the left. Many thanks! > > It doesn't completely fix the problems though .. the other big problem is > still there, in that in X-terminal pressing the enter key brings up the > thumb keyboard and does not enter the data. You can disable thumb keyboard from control panel, but then you get the normal input method (HWR or VKB). > One can achieve an Enter by > clicking on the window (which brings up the stylus keyboard) and then on the > Enter key there, but that's terribly inconvenient. Any suggestions? If you have full (bluetooth) keyboard, use keypad enter instead. (I'm not sure whether this kludge still works) - Eero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)
Hi, many thanks ... I can form that: > > If you want to disable pressure information usage, you need to run > > the device X server with XInput protocol/extension disabled. Just > > add "-extension XInputExtension" to the /etc/init.d/x-server file > > X server options and reboot the device. > > > > Where it is added to the end of the > > ARGS="" string, preceded by a space. Does indeed mean that the mouse over X11vnc now works on the task manager pane on the left. Many thanks! It doesn't completely fix the problems though .. the other big problem is still there, in that in X-terminal pressing the enter key brings up the thumb keyboard and does not enter the data. One can achieve an Enter by clicking on the window (which brings up the stylus keyboard) and then on the Enter key there, but that's terribly inconvenient. Any suggestions? mfc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)
Hi, ext Mike Cowlishaw wrote: > Hi, I am going to have to try this before the weekend -- x11vnc seems to be > the only game in town for a demo of N800 apps to an audience using a > projector. I'm happy for this to be a one-off 'turn off pressure > information' as I never use that feature anyway (I tried it, but the screen > got so mucky so fast...). > > Your instructions are a bit vague, however. When you say: > > If you want to disable pressure information usage, you need to run > the device X server with XInput protocol/extension disabled. Just > add "-extension XInputExtension" to the /etc/init.d/x-server file > X server options and reboot the device. > > It's not clear where to add it. I would add it to the end of the > ARGS="" string, preceded by a space. Is that correct? Yes. You can test what Xserver thinks about it with: Xomap -mouse tslib -nozap -wr -nolisten tcp -extension XInputExtension If you use something else, you can see what kind of an error X server would give (at startup) if the X server argument is not correct. > [Subsidiary question .. is there a way to use maemopad to edit files on the > internal filesystem? Copying to an mmc card and editing there or on another > machine sounds a bad idea for system files...] Applications are run under "user" user, so it cannot edit files that are not writable by "user". - Eero > > Thanks! Mike > > >> -Original Message- >> ext Mike Cowlishaw wrote: > I get the same problem as you with the x11vnc not responding to clicks > on > the docking/application bar. It's frustrating as heck because it was > inversely so neat to even find a vnc server for this. It is definately > an > x11vnc issue as I tried 2 different VNC viewers, and if I maximize > applications I can still register clicks in that area. I think the issue is that x11vnc uses the XTest protocol/extension to simulate the events at the device and XTest doesn't support pressure information. Pressure information is needed for detecting whether the device is used with fingers or stylus. If you want to disable pressure information usage, you need to run the device X server with XInput protocol/extension disabled. Just add "-extension XInputExtension" to the /etc/init.d/x-server file X server options and reboot the device. Note that if you make a >> mistake and X server doesn't start, your device could end up in a reboot loop. >>> That sounds promising! Is there a 'safe' way to disable this >>> (e.g., via an installable applet)? >> To disable X server extensions/protocols you need to start X server >> without them. Only way X server provides for this is the command line >> options (in the kdrive build configuration, with the Linux Desktop >> X server you can change the configuration also from the >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and then restart the X server). >> >> I think Gtk/Gdk check the extensions availability also only at process >> startup. >> >> >> - Eero > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)
Hi, ext Mike Cowlishaw wrote: >>> I get the same problem as you with the x11vnc not responding to clicks >>> on >>> the docking/application bar. It's frustrating as heck because it was >>> inversely so neat to even find a vnc server for this. It is definately >>> an >>> x11vnc issue as I tried 2 different VNC viewers, and if I maximize >>> applications I can still register clicks in that area. >> I think the issue is that x11vnc uses the XTest protocol/extension to >> simulate the events at the device and XTest doesn't support pressure >> information. Pressure information is needed for detecting whether >> the device is used with fingers or stylus. >> >> If you want to disable pressure information usage, you need to run >> the device X server with XInput protocol/extension disabled. Just >> add "-extension XInputExtension" to the /etc/init.d/x-server file >> X server options and reboot the device. Note that if you make a mistake >> and X server doesn't start, your device could end up in a reboot loop. > > That sounds promising! Is there a 'safe' way to disable this > (e.g., via an installable applet)? To disable X server extensions/protocols you need to start X server without them. Only way X server provides for this is the command line options (in the kdrive build configuration, with the Linux Desktop X server you can change the configuration also from the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and then restart the X server). I think Gtk/Gdk check the extensions availability also only at process startup. - Eero ___ maemo-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)
> > I get the same problem as you with the x11vnc not responding to clicks > > on > > the docking/application bar. It's frustrating as heck because it was > > inversely so neat to even find a vnc server for this. It is definately > > an > > x11vnc issue as I tried 2 different VNC viewers, and if I maximize > > applications I can still register clicks in that area. > > I think the issue is that x11vnc uses the XTest protocol/extension to > simulate the events at the device and XTest doesn't support pressure > information. Pressure information is needed for detecting whether > the device is used with fingers or stylus. > > If you want to disable pressure information usage, you need to run > the device X server with XInput protocol/extension disabled. Just > add "-extension XInputExtension" to the /etc/init.d/x-server file > X server options and reboot the device. Note that if you make a mistake > and X server doesn't start, your device could end up in a reboot loop. That sounds promising! Is there a 'safe' way to disable this (e.g., via an installable applet)? mfc ___ maemo-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
