[maemo-users] New "suspend" feature always on after alarm
Hi, yesterday, while testing the new alarm feature from IT2006 beta (which allows setting an alarm and "switch off" the device and still get the alarm, we discovered it replaces the classic "shutdown" by some kind of suspend (in fact, the device is still running) since shutdown is extremely quick and boots almost instantaneous. This is nice but after alarm was triggered, this new "suspend" mode remains active when shutting down the device when turn it off. It looks like a bug to me since it probably consumer more power than a real shutdown (or it could be nice to configure this behaviour) and I was only able to get a normal shutdown today because my 770 crashes and watchdog triggered a real reboot. Should I fill a bug or it is a wanted behaviour ? -- Frédéric Crozat ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] can't access http://www.gmail.com
Yeah, I have the same problem with any https server. You're running IT2006 or Maemo 2, right? What's sort of ironic is that I can't get into garage.maemo.org from my 770. ~ Neoredux - Original message - From: william maddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Mon Jun 12 2006 05:50:43 PM PDT Subject: [maemo-users] can't access http://www.gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 I'm unable to login on gmail since tonight. When I try access I got this erro: "Unable to complete secure transaction https://www.gmail.com/accounts."; Is someone experiencing the same problem? Settings for security looks ok, and everything work for any other https site. Thx. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjgvi1ALxG2OcY+8RA3eyAJ9Ne7WExA1dV57PMkld+3nLrFOWJQCeNs5m GAKhn8DnPYVAZbHki1oXIE0= =5SUt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] can't access http://www.gmail.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 I'm unable to login on gmail since tonight. When I try access I got this erro: "Unable to complete secure transaction https://www.gmail.com/accounts."; Is someone experiencing the same problem? Settings for security looks ok, and everything work for any other https site. Thx. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjgvi1ALxG2OcY+8RA3eyAJ9Ne7WExA1dV57PMkld+3nLrFOWJQCeNs5m GAKhn8DnPYVAZbHki1oXIE0= =5SUt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] ext3 module on ITOS 2006
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, william maddler wrote: Ok, I'm not a guru. But... /usr/share # ls -l /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 144779 May 30 16:15 I would say module is present, The "No such file..." error, I guess is referred to something else. IMHO On my desktop system ext3 uses the jbd kernel module. Perhaps you need to insert it before inserting ext3? (Extract from lsmod output: ext3 118729 7 jbd59481 1 ext3 ) Regards, Jac --- Jac KersingTechnical Consultant The-Box Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] CISSP http://www.the-box.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] ext3 module on ITOS 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 August Joki wrote: > Have you checked dmesg? There's usually more information as to why it > failed there. Here it is. Nothing I can fix without recompiling it. [19830.522155] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit [19830.523406] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_dirty_data [19830.524261] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_force_commit_nested [19830.525604] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_create [19830.527069] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_init_dev [19830.527862] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_dirty_metadata [19830.528656] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_forget [19830.529418] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_wipe [19830.530395] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_blocks_per_page [19830.533782] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_shrink [19830.534851] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_errno [19830.536407] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_extend [19830.537841] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_entry_insert [19830.539215] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_invalidatepage [19830.541595] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_entry_free [19830.542572] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_create [19830.543792] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_unlock_updates [19830.545013] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_revoke [19830.546081] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_lock_updates [19830.547485] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_start_commit [19830.550048] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_flush [19830.550811] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_load [19830.551605] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_destroy [19830.553314] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_try_to_free_buffers [19830.554687] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_update_format [19830.556030] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_write_access [19830.557067] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_undo_access [19830.558074] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_entry_find_first [19830.558837] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_get_create_access [19830.560272] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_destroy [19830.561370] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_clear_err [19830.563049] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_stop [19830.564758] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_entry_alloc [19830.565551] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_entry_release [19830.567565] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_entry_get [19830.568878] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_init_inode [19830.569641] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_start [19830.570892] ext3: Unknown symbol log_wait_commit [19830.573242] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_release_buffer [19830.574371] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_check_available_features [19830.575164] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_abort [19830.576110] ext3: Unknown symbol journal_restart [19830.577758] ext3: Unknown symbol mb_cache_entry_find_next > > On 6/12/06, william maddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adrian Neumaier wrote: >> Am Montag, 12. Juni 2006 23:53 schrieb william maddler: >>> I was trying to mount a MMC partition in ext3, but when trying to load >>> ext3.ko module: > >>> insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko >>> Using /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko >>> insmod: cannot insert `/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko': >>> Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory > >>> Any clue? >>> ext2.ko is working fine > >>> bye > >> This module is not available :) No such file or > directory >> And your mmc will last longer without ext3. > > Ok, I'm not a guru. But... > > /usr/share # ls -l /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 144779 May 30 16:15 > > I would say module is present, The "No such file..." error, I guess is > referred to something else. IMHO ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjevl1ALxG2OcY+8RA+oyAJwMmxQcgjTRcaE1NAWjyaCAXqfoYgCfaO8k FHyHYeiXjPeeb8GLlhJr37E= =WxD3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] ext3 module on ITOS 2006
Have you checked dmesg? There's usually more information as to why it failed there. On 6/12/06, william maddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Adrian Neumaier wrote: > Am Montag, 12. Juni 2006 23:53 schrieb william maddler: >> I was trying to mount a MMC partition in ext3, but when trying to load >> ext3.ko module: >> >> insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko >> Using /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko >> insmod: cannot insert `/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko': >> Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory >> >> Any clue? >> ext2.ko is working fine >> >> bye > > This module is not available :) No such file or directory > And your mmc will last longer without ext3. Ok, I'm not a guru. But... /usr/share # ls -l /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko - -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 144779 May 30 16:15 I would say module is present, The "No such file..." error, I guess is referred to something else. IMHO -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjeqG1ALxG2OcY+8RA7oUAJ9PwowYjbCe+dhv4iAelSFSV2I6lACdEJmq wLYEz08uBQIx3VgiW0yWIVk= =pt6u -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -August ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] ext3 module on ITOS 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Adrian Neumaier wrote: > Am Montag, 12. Juni 2006 23:53 schrieb william maddler: >> I was trying to mount a MMC partition in ext3, but when trying to load >> ext3.ko module: >> >> insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko >> Using /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko >> insmod: cannot insert `/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko': >> Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory >> >> Any clue? >> ext2.ko is working fine >> >> bye > > This module is not available :) No such file or directory > And your mmc will last longer without ext3. Ok, I'm not a guru. But... /usr/share # ls -l /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko - -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 144779 May 30 16:15 I would say module is present, The "No such file..." error, I guess is referred to something else. IMHO -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjeqG1ALxG2OcY+8RA7oUAJ9PwowYjbCe+dhv4iAelSFSV2I6lACdEJmq wLYEz08uBQIx3VgiW0yWIVk= =pt6u -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] ext3 module on ITOS 2006
Am Montag, 12. Juni 2006 23:53 schrieb william maddler: > I was trying to mount a MMC partition in ext3, but when trying to load > ext3.ko module: > > insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko > Using /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko > insmod: cannot insert `/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko': > Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory > > Any clue? > ext2.ko is working fine > > bye This module is not available :) No such file or directory And your mmc will last longer without ext3. Cheers Adrian -- GPG Key ID: 42C33D97 | Reg. User #255628 (http://counter.li.org) Fingerprint: 239D 7006 3CF0 8951 9FDA CA63 EF5C C95A 42C3 3D97 pgp5IGJUuxFbA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] ext3 module on ITOS 2006
On Mon, 2006-12-06 at 23:53 +0200, william maddler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > I was trying to mount a MMC partition in ext3, but when trying to load > ext3.ko module: > > insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko > Using /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko > insmod: cannot insert `/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko': > Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory > > Any clue? > ext2.ko is working fine > >From what I gather your mmc will probably last longer with ext2 and you will gain a bit more storage space so why not use it. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] ext3 module on ITOS 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 I was trying to mount a MMC partition in ext3, but when trying to load ext3.ko module: insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko Using /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko insmod: cannot insert `/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.16-omap1/ext3.ko': Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory Any clue? ext2.ko is working fine bye -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjeJb1ALxG2OcY+8RA49aAJ4r/0K6LqtbFCZ0bQrBDkJsnYNQVQCeIN7u +AFWXi8PQv0nBO5qleal+xg= =mCuY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
Am Montag, 12. Juni 2006 21:22 schrieb Armin M. Warda: > On Monday 12 June 2006 17:24, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > > [...] There are of > > course some obvious problems with a separate partition. (Some of > > the complications could be difficult to understand by a non-geek > > user.) > > I suspect there might be some geek users on this list... > Please explain, what are the obvious problems with a > separate partition? Thanks! I second that, i would like to know that too. I can't figure one, apart from swapoff the partition before removing the card. Cheers Adrian -- GPG Key ID: 42C33D97 | Reg. User #255628 (http://counter.li.org) Fingerprint: 239D 7006 3CF0 8951 9FDA CA63 EF5C C95A 42C3 3D97 pgpjaXyrUvQ0O.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
On Monday 12 June 2006 17:24, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > [...] There are of > course some obvious problems with a separate partition. (Some of > the complications could be difficult to understand by a non-geek > user.) I suspect there might be some geek users on this list... Please explain, what are the obvious problems with a separate partition? Thanks! regards, Armin. -- --- May the Source be with you! Linux. --- --- secure eMail: http://www.gnupg.de/ --- --- My Homepage http://armin-warda.de/ --- pgpCUL87qz6MP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] extending 770 video player
Am Sonntag, den 11.06.2006, 13:15 -0800 schrieb Loreno Oliveira: > I've tried to use the 770's video player, but I was not able to > reproduce my mms stream. You may want to try again with the 2006 beta. I don't know about mms but I've been able to stream a .avi via http (which didn't work with the old firmware) Regards, Reiner ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] maemo 2.0 beta bugs and wishes discussion....
Adrian Neumaier wrote: > BTW: Do you have a trusted smime cert from Verisign or any other trusted > CA (assuming you're using smime)? If not whats the use of those certs > then when not comming from a trusted CA? I don't know how people obtain a certificate in other countries, but in Spain you can obtain it from the government, to operate via Internet with the taxes office and so on. You can also use it to sign your email. And the government is supposed to be a trusted CA :-). Btw, I also miss GPG support in the Nokia 770. Israel -- Israel Herraiz | Libre Software Engineering Lab (GSyC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Universidad Rey Juan Carlos http://libresoft.urjc.es | Edif. Departamental II - Despacho 118 Telf: (+34) 91 488 8523| c/Tulipán s/n 28933 Móstoles (Madrid) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 18:18 +0300, ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 17:47, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > > opening door physically disabled mmc interface and device nodes were not > > available i.e. you couldn't mount inserted card until door is closed. > > That was caused by a kernel patch that disabled polling of the MMC until > the MMC cover is closed. (That makes sense to save power, but prevents > usage of full-size MMC.) I'm not sure if the same patch is coming to the > sales release. MMC polling only on open cover should still be present in the sales release, if not, please let me know =) Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa (Nokia M - OSSO / Tampere) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 18:16, ext Adrian Neumaier wrote: > Kimmo Hämäläinen schrieb: > > > You can change the place of the partition file with some hacking (change > > value of OSSO_SWAP environment variable). It's also possible to create > > the '.swap' file manually beforehand (e.g. using dd & mkswap). > > What would be wrong with a standard linux swap partition? With 2005 i > currently use a swap partition together with load-plugin-aw which works > fine. You are free to use separate swap partition as well, but the product software does not support it at the moment. There are of course some obvious problems with a separate partition. (Some of the complications could be difficult to understand by a non-geek user.) BR; Kimmo > > Cheers > Adrian ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 17:47, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > > The same problem happens with multiple partitions as well, when the user > > tries to remove the card. It has been solved by first checking whether > > disabling swap is safe or not: if it's safe, it's disabled; if it's not > > safe, a warning dialog pops up. (Same kind of mechanism is used to > > handle the case when there is an open file on the MMC.) > > > > BR; Kimmo > > True. Except with separate partition you can use usb storage while swap > is used. Anyway, just tried to open the door while swap is used and it > simply rebooted, no dialog. So this is bug, not feature? In older system Yes, it definitely sounds like a bug :) > opening door physically disabled mmc interface and device nodes were not > available i.e. you couldn't mount inserted card until door is closed. That was caused by a kernel patch that disabled polling of the MMC until the MMC cover is closed. (That makes sense to save power, but prevents usage of full-size MMC.) I'm not sure if the same patch is coming to the sales release. > But just tried on IT2006 and current 2.6.16 kernel seems to allow this. > Great, looks like I can use normal sized MMC cards in emergency. Neat > for browsing photos from sd/mmc based camera :) And this warning dialog > before removing the card is possible too, very good :) Hmm, I think the warning dialog could be quite annoying when the cover is open and you use a full-size dialog :) (However, you can always do '/etc/init.d/ke-recv stop' to disable all automounting logic.) BR, Kimmo > > Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
Kimmo Hämäläinen schrieb: > You can change the place of the partition file with some hacking (change > value of OSSO_SWAP environment variable). It's also possible to create > the '.swap' file manually beforehand (e.g. using dd & mkswap). What would be wrong with a standard linux swap partition? With 2005 i currently use a swap partition together with load-plugin-aw which works fine. Cheers Adrian -- GPG Key ID: 42C33D97 | Reg. User #255628 (http://counter.li.org) Fingerprint: 239D 7006 3CF0 8951 9FDA CA63 EF5C C95A 42C3 3D97 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] maemo 2.0 beta bugs and wishes discussion....
On Sun, 2006-11-06 at 16:06 +0200, Jac Kersing wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Michael Flaig wrote: > Yesterday my device crashed while playing AccuRadio and browsing BBC > international. The audio stopped, device stopped responding to input and > rebooted. > I've also experienced browser crashes and this device not responding where I had to hold the power button to reboot. Never seemed to be tied directly to the browser but may be tied to wifi. I'll try and keep closer not so I can file a bug report. The summary is, 2.0 is nice but a little unstable. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: The same problem happens with multiple partitions as well, when the user tries to remove the card. It has been solved by first checking whether disabling swap is safe or not: if it's safe, it's disabled; if it's not safe, a warning dialog pops up. (Same kind of mechanism is used to handle the case when there is an open file on the MMC.) BR; Kimmo True. Except with separate partition you can use usb storage while swap is used. Anyway, just tried to open the door while swap is used and it simply rebooted, no dialog. So this is bug, not feature? In older system opening door physically disabled mmc interface and device nodes were not available i.e. you couldn't mount inserted card until door is closed. But just tried on IT2006 and current 2.6.16 kernel seems to allow this. Great, looks like I can use normal sized MMC cards in emergency. Neat for browsing photos from sd/mmc based camera :) And this warning dialog before removing the card is possible too, very good :) Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] maemo 2.0 beta bugs and wishes discussion....
2006/6/12, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: As far as jabber support goes, I thought the jabber protocol used SSL/TLS as oppsed to gpg to secure the communications as its more designed for encryption of data streams on the fly over network connections where as gpg is more a file encryption style of tool. I think SSL is supported straight up on the jabber side of things. ssl only provides encryption between server and client. to prevent wiretapping at the server, you need end-to-end encryption, which is nicely provided via gpg by some jabber-clients (eg psi). i want to add another bug: the paste-entry in the osk-menu pastes things twice. the fullscreen-keyboard does not show this behavior. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: maemo-users Digest, Vol 14, Issue 16
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 16:41, ext Laurent MARTIN wrote: > > Formatting MMC with 770 will probably destroy all your > > partitions, because I noticed one case when 770 couldn't format a > > usable > > MMC when it didn't zero the partition table first (so I will make it > > zero the partition table before repartitioning and formatting, to > > ensure > > that a usable MMC can be always formatted). > That's interesting becuse I'm now trying to reformat my 1GB RSMMC > card, and I'm not able to do it using the built-in file manager of my > N770: it fails with something like "corrupted MMC card". How do I > fully "zero reset" the partition table? What I've done on my Linux PC: Yes, that's precisely the problem I encountered, too. I will fix it for the final release. > - "fdisk /dev/sdb" > - remove all partitions > - create a new partition (type 6) using the whole space > - write the new partition table and exit > - format using "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1" > Using this, I'm then able to use the RSMMC on the N770 (including > creating a swap file using the GUI) but I cannot reformat the RSMMC > card with the file manager: I still get the same error message :-/ > Any good advice about this? TIA. First, do 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 count=1' (make sure that the 'of' device is correct!). After that it should format correctly with the 770. BR; Kimmo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: maemo-users Digest, Vol 14, Issue 16
Formatting MMC with 770 will probably destroy all your partitions, because I noticed one case when 770 couldn't format a usable MMC when it didn't zero the partition table first (so I will make it zero the partition table before repartitioning and formatting, to ensure that a usable MMC can be always formatted). That's interesting becuse I'm now trying to reformat my 1GB RSMMC card, and I'm not able to do it using the built-in file manager of my N770: it fails with something like "corrupted MMC card". How do I fully "zero reset" the partition table? What I've done on my Linux PC: - "fdisk /dev/sdb" - remove all partitions - create a new partition (type 6) using the whole space - write the new partition table and exit - format using "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1" Using this, I'm then able to use the RSMMC on the N770 (including creating a swap file using the GUI) but I cannot reformat the RSMMC card with the file manager: I still get the same error message :-/ Any good advice about this? TIA. -- Laurent, Nantes - France Apple PowerBook 12" Treo 650 (unlocked GSM) Nokia 770 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 15:40, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > > The swap file will be stored to the first partition (VFAT if you format > > with the 770) as a file named '.swap'. > > That's interesting, so how did you solve situation when usb cable is > plugged in and first partition is unmounted while swap is used? If > swapoff is tried what if memory is already tight? The same problem happens with multiple partitions as well, when the user tries to remove the card. It has been solved by first checking whether disabling swap is safe or not: if it's safe, it's disabled; if it's not safe, a warning dialog pops up. (Same kind of mechanism is used to handle the case when there is an open file on the MMC.) BR; Kimmo > > Frantisek > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 15:45, ext marvin wrote: > hi, > > an other issue concerning swap: > > with the old version, i manually created a swap partition as a 64(or less) MB > at the end of the > device. so if the area fails duo heavy usage it does not interfere with the > first partition and my > MMC card will only "loose" the last 64MB and the rest will not become > unusable. it would be nice > to have on option to manually select the swap partition in the gui (control > panel). You can change the place of the partition file with some hacking (change value of OSSO_SWAP environment variable). It's also possible to create the '.swap' file manually beforehand (e.g. using dd & mkswap). BR; Kimmo > > regards marvin > > On Mon, June 12, 2006 14:18, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 17:35, ext Laurent MARTIN wrote: > > > >> Hi! > >> I've just installed the OS2006 beta and I'm not sure how I should > >> format my 1Gb RSMMC card to enable built-in "virtual memory" mechanism. > >> With the previous FW, I > >> had 2 partitions (vfat and ext2): now should I simply keep one large vfat > >> partition? > > > > The swap file will be stored to the first partition (VFAT if you format > > with the 770) as a file named '.swap'. So, there is no separate partition > > for it. Formatting MMC > > with 770 will probably destroy all your partitions, because I noticed one > > case when 770 couldn't > > format a usable MMC when it didn't zero the partition table first (so I > > will make it > > zero the partition table before repartitioning and formatting, to ensure > > that a usable MMC can be > > always formatted). Thus, if you want to use more than one partition, you'll > > need to partition and > > format MMC in a desktop machine. > > > > BR; Kimmo > > > > > >> TIA. > >> -- > >> Laurent, Nantes - France > >> Apple PowerBook 12" > >> Treo 650 (unlocked GSM) > >> Nokia 770 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __ > >> ___ > >> maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org > >> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > >> > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
hi, an other issue concerning swap: with the old version, i manually created a swap partition as a 64(or less) MB at the end of the device. so if the area fails duo heavy usage it does not interfere with the first partition and my MMC card will only "loose" the last 64MB and the rest will not become unusable. it would be nice to have on option to manually select the swap partition in the gui (control panel). regards marvin On Mon, June 12, 2006 14:18, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 17:35, ext Laurent MARTIN wrote: > >> Hi! >> I've just installed the OS2006 beta and I'm not sure how I should >> format my 1Gb RSMMC card to enable built-in "virtual memory" mechanism. With >> the previous FW, I >> had 2 partitions (vfat and ext2): now should I simply keep one large vfat >> partition? > > The swap file will be stored to the first partition (VFAT if you format > with the 770) as a file named '.swap'. So, there is no separate partition for > it. Formatting MMC > with 770 will probably destroy all your partitions, because I noticed one > case when 770 couldn't > format a usable MMC when it didn't zero the partition table first (so I will > make it > zero the partition table before repartitioning and formatting, to ensure that > a usable MMC can be > always formatted). Thus, if you want to use more than one partition, you'll > need to partition and > format MMC in a desktop machine. > > BR; Kimmo > > >> TIA. >> -- >> Laurent, Nantes - France >> Apple PowerBook 12" >> Treo 650 (unlocked GSM) >> Nokia 770 >> >> >> >> >> __ >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> > ___ > maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: The swap file will be stored to the first partition (VFAT if you format with the 770) as a file named '.swap'. That's interesting, so how did you solve situation when usb cable is plugged in and first partition is unmounted while swap is used? If swapoff is tried what if memory is already tight? Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] MMC partitions w/ ITOS2006
On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 17:35, ext Laurent MARTIN wrote: > Hi! > I've just installed the OS2006 beta and I'm not sure how I should > format my 1Gb RSMMC card to enable built-in "virtual memory" > mechanism. With the previous FW, I had 2 partitions (vfat and ext2): > now should I simply keep one large vfat partition? The swap file will be stored to the first partition (VFAT if you format with the 770) as a file named '.swap'. So, there is no separate partition for it. Formatting MMC with 770 will probably destroy all your partitions, because I noticed one case when 770 couldn't format a usable MMC when it didn't zero the partition table first (so I will make it zero the partition table before repartitioning and formatting, to ensure that a usable MMC can be always formatted). Thus, if you want to use more than one partition, you'll need to partition and format MMC in a desktop machine. BR; Kimmo > TIA. > -- > Laurent, Nantes - France > Apple PowerBook 12" > Treo 650 (unlocked GSM) > Nokia 770 > > > > __ > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] maemo 2.0 beta bugs and wishes discussion....
>> * WISHLIST >> * SMIME in Mail is there but does anybody use it? IMHO >>GnuPG is much more common. > > Yes, people use SMIME. As Outlook (Express) has it build in it's very > convenient when exchanging mail with the mayority of the internet users. > I know quite a few people (perhaps two dozen), work and private, who use outcrook (some even the express *shudder*), but none of them has cared yet about smime. Most don't even know what it is. They do use gpg though. Not supporting gpg/pgp or no possibilty to use it with the n770 would disable secure communication for the other part of the mail users. I think the biggest use of SMIME is within the enterprise as Exchange/Outlook integrate it quite tightly. I don't see the support of gpg would be that hard as evolution/eds already support it, it would just be a matter of ensuring the support in maemo. You would also need some sort of key management application to be ported too. As far as jabber support goes, I thought the jabber protocol used SSL/TLS as oppsed to gpg to secure the communications as its more designed for encryption of data streams on the fly over network connections where as gpg is more a file encryption style of tool. I think SSL is supported straight up on the jabber side of things. Pete ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] maemo 2.0 beta bugs and wishes discussion....
Jac Kersing schrieb: >> * WISHLIST >> * SMIME in Mail is there but does anybody use it? IMHO >>GnuPG is much more common. > > Yes, people use SMIME. As Outlook (Express) has it build in it's very > convenient when exchanging mail with the mayority of the internet users. > I know quite a few people (perhaps two dozen), work and private, who use outcrook (some even the express *shudder*), but none of them has cared yet about smime. Most don't even know what it is. They do use gpg though. Not supporting gpg/pgp or no possibilty to use it with the n770 would disable secure communication for the other part of the mail users. BTW: Do you have a trusted smime cert from Verisign or any other trusted CA (assuming you're using smime)? If not whats the use of those certs then when not comming from a trusted CA? Cheers Adrian -- GPG Key ID: 42C33D97 | Reg. User #255628 (http://counter.li.org) Fingerprint: 239D 7006 3CF0 8951 9FDA CA63 EF5C C95A 42C3 3D97 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: standby problem
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 12:47 +0300, Igor Stoppa wrote: > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 11:24 +0200, ext Fabio Forno wrote: > > that entry enables/disables _the_ power saving feature of 770, > > which is, > > surprise, surprise, sleeping while idle, meaning that it is > > not > > suspend-based. > > > > In fact, disablying it it doesn't turn off authomatically anymore, it > > just turns off the display after an idle time > > > > Therefore you don't have to do anything > > with /sys/power/state. > > > > Btw, have you tried tapping on the screen when it "switches > > itself off"? > > And if that doesn't help, do you get any low battery message? > > > > The battery is fully charged and I don't see any messages realted to > > it. > > The device really turns off, no standby, no suspend and tapping the > > screen is completely unuseful, behavior the makes this 770 almost > > unusable (the behavior of the other one I have is ok) > If flashing one of the official images (try without restoring any backup > data) and resetting any R&D switch doesn't solve the problem, I would > recommend then to contact the service point: you might have found a > defective unit. whoops, sorry, forgot the ml in cc -- Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa (Nokia M - OSSO / Tampere) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: standby problem
On 6/12/06, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: that entry enables/disables _the_ power saving feature of 770, which is,surprise, surprise, sleeping while idle, meaning that it is notsuspend-based.In fact, disablying it it doesn't turn off authomatically anymore, it just turns off the display after an idle time Therefore you don't have to do anything with /sys/power/state.Btw, have you tried tapping on the screen when it "switches itself off"? And if that doesn't help, do you get any low battery message?The battery is fully charged and I don't see any messages realted to it. The device really turns off, no standby, no suspend and tapping the screen is completely unuseful, behavior the makes this 770 almost unusable (the behavior of the other one I have is ok) -- Fabio Forno, PhDIstituto Superiore Mario BoellaJabber ID: xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]** Try Jabber http://www.jabber.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: standby problem
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 10:16 +0200, ext Fabio Forno wrote: > On 6/11/06, Fabio Forno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've bought a new 770 and the device refuses to go standby, > switching itself off after 30 seconds of inactivity and > forcing me to reboot each time. I've tried to flash the last > image from Nokia, but the problem still remains. Is there a > way for controlling the standby behaviour or anybody else > noticed the same problem (I've found nothing about it in the > ML)? > > > One more detail about this issue. When I try to force it to go stanby > by sending the command "echo -n standby > /sys/power/state" the device > turns off and for few seconds it is also impossible to turn it on > pressing the power button. Do you think this may be an hardware > related issue? > > One more question: which is the purpose of the sleep_while_idle file > in the same directory? > Hi, that entry enables/disables _the_ power saving feature of 770, which is, surprise, surprise, sleeping while idle, meaning that it is not suspend-based. Therefore you don't have to do anything with /sys/power/state. Btw, have you tried tapping on the screen when it "switches itself off"? And if that doesn't help, do you get any low battery message? Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa (Nokia M - OSSO / Tampere) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: standby problem
On 6/11/06, Fabio Forno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've bought a new 770 and the device refuses to go standby, switching itself off after 30 seconds of inactivity and forcing me to reboot each time. I've tried to flash the last image from Nokia, but the problem still remains. Is there a way for controlling the standby behaviour or anybody else noticed the same problem (I've found nothing about it in the ML)? One more detail about this issue. When I try to force it to go stanby by sending the command "echo -n standby > /sys/power/state" the device turns off and for few seconds it is also impossible to turn it on pressing the power button. Do you think this may be an hardware related issue? One more question: which is the purpose of the sleep_while_idle file in the same directory?-- Fabio Forno, PhDIstituto Superiore Mario BoellaJabber ID: xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]** Try Jabber http://www.jabber.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] extending 770 video player
Hi, However, based on the figure at http://maemo.org/platform/docs/multimedia/images/multimedia/770-arch.png , gstreamer is only an api by which upper applications may use to access the multimedia functionalities of 770. That is, using gstreamer is certainly part of the solution, but I think that for extending the 770 video player, the video player itself should announce some interface through which people may extend its capabilities, such as providing a new feature for RTP stream playback. It's this documentation what I'm missing... Yes! you are missing the fact that 'new feature of RTP stream playback' is also part of the multimedia framework, in our case: GStreamer. If the desired extension to the player is some multimedia capability, then one is to write a GStreamer element(s), OTOH if it's something like a change in the GUI components of the video player, then it's most probably not gstreamer you need to deal with. Does anybody knows if such documentation exists, or even whether is it possible? I think you should first read the documentation that *is* available: GStreamer Application Development Manual: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/ -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
