Re: [maemo-users] Flash to 2006 trouble
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 04:54, ext Willie McKemie wrote: ... > Poking around the Maemo file structure, I didn't find a syslog; is there > such? There is no syslog because the average user could not do anything with it. If you want it, just install klogd and sysklogd packages. > I have a 2gig memory card on the way and look forward to loading it up. Support for 2GB cards is coming, I think. It required some kernel patching. BR, Kimmo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Flash to 2006 trouble
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 08:54:54PM -0500, Willie McKemie wrote: > My current (minor) hang up is trying to invoke and keys. > Any help on that? In xterm? Esc is the hardware key with the 3/4 circle arrow. For Ctrl look in the Terminal menu. > Poking around the Maemo file structure, I didn't find a syslog; is there > such? No. > I have a 2gig memory card on the way and look forward to loading it up. Have fun. You need to flash a patched kernel to support 2 gb or larger cards. Marius Gedminas -- The gates in my computer are AND, OR and NOT; they are not Bill. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: problem adding repositorys to the Catalogue.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 07:24:21PM +, Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:30:08 -0700, Frank Burton wrote: > > > I have just got a 770 and have upgraded to os2006 but am having a hard time > > adding repositorys to the catalogue. > > I know that doesn't help you, but just in case someone who _can_ fix > that for the better is listening: > > Manually needing to enter information about catalogs is bad (URL, > distribution, component). How about some way to just be > able to open some special "debian catalog description" file with the web > browser and that will add a catalogue automagically? I hope that by the time OS2007 comes out, two things will happen * all of the useful and tested packages will be uplosded to the Garage repository (repository.maemo.org/extras) * the Garage repository will be added by defaul (possibly disabled by default, so that clueless users don't have to care about the multitude of unfamiliar app names, half of which require command-line access) Then package installation is just a checkbox away (and maybe a dialog could ask you if you want non-Nokia apps the first-time you start the app manager). Marius Gedminas -- C gives you enough rope to hang yourself. C++ also gives you the tree object to tie it to. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] Flash to 2006 trouble
Hi, About the internet radio station thing, I asked as well. 1) You have to invoke the Audio player from the internet radio home applet by the middle button. 2) Hit the menu item, Track > Add stream and input the web address. Actually, the best way to add the stream is click it from the browser for the web link, if it is proper posted ShoutCast audio. Yours faithfully, Alvis Koon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Flash to 2006 trouble
Cooking! I took my 770 to another part of my LAN and tried it on two other access points: a Belkin and a Motorola. Both worked! They allowed pings, SSH into the 770, and "apt-get update". With a real keyboard and big display, I got everything else straightened out in pretty short order. Got all the myriad repositories installed in my /etc/apt/sources.list. Installed doom. Couldn't figure out how to use dropbear ssh client, so I installed OpenSSH which worked well, both server and client. Re-installed OSSO-Term, which then worked for the first time; with repositories, it loaded some dependencies. In short, EVERYTHING works as hoped/expected. All this due to an apparent incompatibility between the 770 and my DLink DL-514 wireless router (being used only as an access point). Is there a compatibility list somewhere that I should post to? Given this information, can anyone guess what is wrong between the DLink and the 770? To re-state the problem: with the 770 and the DL, browsing worked, but "apt-get update", ping, and ssh did not. The DL has given no such trouble on numerous laptops. My current (minor) hang up is trying to invoke and keys. Any help on that? Poking around the Maemo file structure, I didn't find a syslog; is there such? I have a 2gig memory card on the way and look forward to loading it up. Can anyone give me any guidance on adding radio stations to the radio playing feature? Thanks for all patience, suggestions, and considerations! -- Willie, ONWARD! Through the fog! http://counter.li.org Linux registered user #228836 since 1995 Debian3.1/GNU/Linux system uptime 187 days 3 hours 27 minutes ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Application Manager: the good and the bad
Hi, so since I read the mail from Frank Burton, I was exposed to the Application Manager again. And I noticed the good and bad points again: First the good ones: - Nice _big_ (as in "good" :)) main buttons (I mean "Show installed applications" etc) - Nice "path bar" navigation - Nice Update support - Support for installation from multiple catalogs - Nice "Settings" dialog ;) That parts are well done :) And now, inevitably, the bad... Application Manager [ Update ] [ i ] [ |-| ] - This one is a little weird in that half of the buttons are text and the other half of the buttons are symbols, for no apparent reason (the symbols even are spaced in a way so that their word representation would have fitted easily) Application Manager > Check for updates > Update [ Update ] Update? xournal 0.3.1-indt3 0.8 MB [ OK ] [ Details ] [ Cancel ] - Dialogs shouldn't really have a title bar. Most on the nokia don't, this one does. Weird. - The dialog text could have read 'Update "xournal" to version 0.3.1-indt3' - Action Buttons should have a caption that denotes _what they do_. I would prefer if gtk just removed the GTK_STOCK_OK, GTK_STOCK_YES, GTK_STOCK_NO from their headers and crashed whenever a textual match were found, to foil people that are trying to break the UI at all costs ;-) Button order is non-gnome, but I guess it's arguable which order is better, so I mention it once here and then I shut up: Gnome's way is: Button causing progress to the right, buttons causing cancellation to the middle and uncommon buttons to the left. The reason is so that when you want it to progress, you can stay at the right side at all times. That said, I am not convinced that's enough to warrant breaking user's habits of x years. So I'll not change button order in the suggestions below. - Suggestion [ Update ] Update "xournal" to version 0.3.1-indt3? (takes 0.8 MB) [ Update ] [ Details ] [ Cancel ] - End Suggestion - Ok, so I click on "Update", err, I mean "OK", and this appears: [Notice] If the software is not obtained from Nokia, Nokia is unable to guarantee that the software will not harm your device and installation will be at your own risk. Continue anyway? [ OK ] [ Cancel ] This notice is too DARN LONG. - Suggestion Install non-nokia software? [ Update ] [ Cancel ] - End Suggestion Anyway, so I click on "Update", err, "OK", and: [i] xournal successfully updated [ OK ] - If there is one button and it does nothing except closing the window, it should be named "Close" - So I click "Close", err, "OK", and: Application Manager > Tools > Refresh list of packages [?] Refresh Package List [ OK ] [ Cancel ] - Well now that's strange. For the life of me, I can't figure out what kind of destructive things it is plotting. Why does it ask me? I don't ask "may I breathe in", "may I breathe out" either ;-) And it's not a question. "Breathe in". "OK". ;-) - If that was intentionally, the menu items need "..." at the end: "Refresh list of packages..." (dot,dot,dot) This signals that the command needs extra information for it to commence (read: user still able to back out after clicking :)) - the buttons, try "Refresh" and "Cancel" instead - anyway, I click "Refresh", err, "OK" and: [!] Unable to refresh list. Last refreshed list is shown. [ OK ] - The button should be "Close". - It's kind of obvious that it doesn't fabricate a list out of thin air, so remove the obvious "Last refreshed list is shown." - How about a button "Show Log", too? Application Manager > Tools > Application catalogue... [ Catalogue ] http://people.freedesktop.org/~skaboy/ [ New ] [ Edit ] [ Delete ] [ Close ] - the application catalogue appeared without requiring further input and without giving the user the chance to back out, so the menu entry should read: "Application catalogue" (no-dot-dot-dot) - dialogs have no title, this one does: what is it, then? - this dialog is too small, all the URLs are cut, but half the screen is still available. - The buttons are nice, but the "New" button needs extra information to be able to create a new entry, so "New..." (dot-dot-dot) - the "Edit" button needs extra info... blah... you get the idea Application Manager > Tools > Application catalogue > Delete [?] Delete catalogue? Package list originating from this catalogue will also be deleted. [ OK ] [ Cancel ] - The buttons should be "Delete" and "Cancel". - I find the extra lines stating the obvious funny. Is that some kind of plot to keep user's brain cycles occupied? ;-) [?] Refresh package list [ OK ] [ Cancel ] - Why does that appear now? I only _removed_ a catalogue... Well anyway, the dialog itself has already been criticized above. Application Manager > Tools > Log... - The menu item should read "Log" (no-dot-dot-dot) - Horizontal scroll bars are evil, how about word wrapping? Application M
[maemo-users] Re: problem adding repositorys to the Catalogue.
Hi, On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:30:08 -0700, Frank Burton wrote: > I have just got a 770 and have upgraded to os2006 but am having a hard time > adding repositorys to the catalogue. I know that doesn't help you, but just in case someone who _can_ fix that for the better is listening: Manually needing to enter information about catalogs is bad (URL, distribution, component). How about some way to just be able to open some special "debian catalog description" file with the web browser and that will add a catalogue automagically? I can think two ways of implementing that: 1) invent a mime type for debian-catalog and have the handler add the catalog (_without_ asking any questions), or 2) use fake debian binary packages that [are not installed but] add the catalog in their post-installation function. [sounds bandaid and bad] >liste I add it then it says downloading > file then I got an error that it is unable to refresh package list. I > have tried various repositorys and have cut and pasted into the > catalogue so I don't think it is a spelling error. Just wondering if I > am missing something obvious here. No, it works for me that way. I just updated again, and just for reference, one of the catalogs that worked is: Web address: http://bgran.net/etrunko/apt Distribution: mistral Components: user Enabled: x cheers, Danny ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
