[maemo-users] Re: ssh install failure

2007-01-03 Thread Nicola Larosa
Neil MacLeod wrote:
> Just a thought, but you may end up receiving fewer replies to your
> messages as people won't bother to read what you have to say due to the
> poor formatting, in which case it's in your own interests to at least
> try to conform.

I concur. I did not finish reading the René Seindal message, the one with
two letters per line, which was even less readable than the ones with one
letter per line.


> My advice to you would be to stop inserting carriage returns every 6 or
> 7 words and instead allow the text to wrap normally so that the viewer
> can read your messages with text formatted as narrow or as wide as they
> feel comfortable.

That would definitely be best.


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[maemo-users] Re: ssh install failure

2007-01-03 Thread Neil MacLeod

Zoran Kolic wrote:

Sorry to reply so lately. I had hard
time to send mail to the maemo ser-
ver, whatever the reason is.


(Why wrap the text so narrowly?)


The eyes go downward, not left-right.



Hi Zoran

English, when written with a fixed-width font, typically contains 12-14 words 
per line (on average).

Text with too many words per line becomes difficult to follow, and text with 
too few words per line rapidly becomes irritating and uncomfortable to read due 
to the excessive left-right-down motion required by the eye balls as they 
follow the text.

As has been demonstrated by the extreme examples in previous posts, your argument that 
"The eyes go downward, not left-right" is clearly flawed - the eyes do in fact 
go left-right AND down! The point is to format text in such a way that it is comfortable 
for the eyes to read it - all of your posts so far have failed in this respect, unless of 
course the reader suffers from tunnel vision.

Just a thought, but you may end up receiving fewer replies to your messages as 
people won't bother to read what you have to say due to the poor formatting, in 
which case it's in your own interests to at least try to conform.

My advice to you would be to stop inserting carriage returns every 6 or 7 words 
and instead allow the text to wrap normally so that the viewer can read your 
messages with text formatted as narrow or as wide as they feel comfortable.

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Re: [maemo-users] Story of the firmwares

2007-01-03 Thread Kahlil Johnson

So is it advisable to get the 2.1 yet?


On 1/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi can anyone help me giving me an intro to the firmware biosphere for
> the maemo enviroment. I bought it with 2005 firmware, then I upgrade
> to 2006. however the front page list two firmwares, Sardine and
> Herring.
>
> I want to know whats up with that, is that development firmwares, fork
> of the firmwares? Please anyone here that is up to date can give me
> some feedback.
>

Hi Kahlil,

Here is a summary of the different official distros and repositories:
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/MaemoReleasesRepositoriesDistros

And here's more information about Sardine and Herring:
http://sardine.garage.maemo.org/

Br,
Carlos




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Re: [maemo-users] Re: Problem connectin to internet (GPRS) using Samsung E900 phone

2007-01-03 Thread Gary

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Marius Gedminas wrote:


So far I haven't encountered spurious GPRS connections drops with my
770.  Neither with my old T68i, neither with my new Nokia 6125.


I've not had any problems with Bluetooth connectivity on any of my 
SonyEricsson devices. However, once I switched to a recent model Samsung 
(SGH-D807), I have not been able to use my Nokia 770 with it. I am no 
stranger to CLI ppp configuration but that's not why I bought this device. 
With Samsung making a pretty good dent in the mobile market both in Europe 
and the U.S., I hope there are Maemo developers on this list that are not 
brand biased enough to overlook this issue. Aside from this glitch, I've 
been quite please with the upgrades over the past months.


Much thanks,
Gary
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RE: [maemo-users] Story of the firmwares

2007-01-03 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro
> Hi can anyone help me giving me an intro to the firmware biosphere for
> the maemo enviroment. I bought it with 2005 firmware, then I upgrade
> to 2006. however the front page list two firmwares, Sardine and
> Herring.
> 
> I want to know whats up with that, is that development firmwares, fork
> of the firmwares? Please anyone here that is up to date can give me
> some feedback.
> 

Hi Kahlil,

Here is a summary of the different official distros and repositories:
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/MaemoReleasesRepositoriesDistros

And here's more information about Sardine and Herring:
http://sardine.garage.maemo.org/

Br,
Carlos
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Re: [maemo-users] Story of the firmwares

2007-01-03 Thread Mike Lococo

Kahlil,


Hi can anyone help me giving me an intro to the firmware biosphere for
the maemo enviroment. I bought it with 2005 firmware, then I upgrade
to 2006. however the front page list two firmwares, Sardine and
Herring.

I want to know whats up with that, is that development firmwares, fork
of the firmwares? Please anyone here that is up to date can give me
some feedback.


http://maemo.org/maemowiki/CodeNames
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[maemo-users] Story of the firmwares

2007-01-03 Thread Kahlil Johnson

Hi can anyone help me giving me an intro to the firmware biosphere for
the maemo enviroment. I bought it with 2005 firmware, then I upgrade
to 2006. however the front page list two firmwares, Sardine and
Herring.

I want to know whats up with that, is that development firmwares, fork
of the firmwares? Please anyone here that is up to date can give me
some feedback.

--
Kahlil Johnson
"Ya tengo GMAIL!!"
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[maemo-users] Re: using ssh/dropbear?

2007-01-03 Thread Zoran Kolic
> 1. How do I start the ssh server?

Dropear goes to init.d with soft link
in rcX file. In other words, starts
at boot time. If you remove rcX file,
"/etc/init.d/dropbear start".

> 2. How do I start the client?

dbclient [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Man pages on the net are good enough.


   Zoran


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Re: [maemo-users] Re: ssh install failure

2007-01-03 Thread René Seindal

Nicola Larosa wrote (03-01-2007 12:00):

Marius Gedminas:

(Why wrap the text so narrowly?)



Zoran Kolic:

The eyes go downward, not left-right.



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[maemo-users] Re: ssh install failure

2007-01-03 Thread Nicola Larosa
>> Marius Gedminas:
>>> (Why wrap the text so narrowly?)

> Zoran Kolic:
>> The eyes go downward, not left-right.

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as part of my dissertation for getting Python into Firefox to replace
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Re: [maemo-users] Re: ssh install failure

2007-01-03 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 03:22:11PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote:
> Sorry to reply so lately. I had hard
> time to send mail to the maemo ser-
> ver, whatever the reason is.
> 
> > (Why wrap the text so narrowly?)
> 
> The eyes go downward, not left-right.

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Loses both and deserves neither


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Re: [maemo-users] using ssh/dropbear?

2007-01-03 Thread Gustav_Schaffter
Doc,

1. To start and stop the dropbear ssh server, you will need to be root.
Execute '/etc/init.d/dropbear start' or '/etc/init.d/dropbear stop'.
(Unfortunately, there seems to be no '/etc/init.d/dropbear status'.)
1a. When I installed dropbear, about two weeks ago, it was "automagically"
setup to start at boot. Which it does.
2. 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]' should do it. Try 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]' as a
starter. You do realize that ssh is CLI software, right?


Gustav Schaffter





   
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a. I am running the very latest firmware, installed a couple of days ago.
b. I have downloaded the dropbear ssh client/server package. There were no
errors during installation.

So now I have two very simple (and obvious) questions:

1. How do I start the ssh server?
2. How do I start the client?

And there's also question 1a: how do I tell the N770 to start the server
each time when it reboots?

  Doc Evans


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RE: [maemo-users] Nokia 770 after flash only luminous screen,Help.

2007-01-03 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
Hi,

when the white screen with a Nokia logo shows, does a small USB icon come-up in 
the upper right corner? That one indicates that the flasher is talking to the 
device.

Also, what is the command line you run with the flasher?

Br,

--jakub


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext haiyin Qiu
Sent: Fri 12/15/2006 6:06 PM
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: [maemo-users] Nokia 770 after flash only luminous screen,Help.
 
Hi,
I just update my maemo from my linux PC, following the suggestion from
maemo.org. After the PC show "Suitable USB device not found, waiting" , my
770 shows a nokia picture, but it still keep showing the same picutre after
1.5 hours. I think the reflash produce should be finished in 1.5 hours. And
there is no message show in my PC.

So... I break the PC process with ctrl+c and shut down the 770 with on/off.
when I open 770 again, it is only luminous screen, nothing show on. Then I
can't shut down again.

So I can only take out the battery. when I input it again, and open 770
with on/off+ home buttons.only luminous screen again. When I only press
on/off button, 770 will be luminous for a while and shut down automatically.


When I later, try to reflash again. but there on nokia picture show on my
770.

What is wrong with my 770. Does it crash, what can I do?


Thanks for your reading and help

Yan

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Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java

2007-01-03 Thread Peter Robinson

Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I don't
see why it couldn't run on maemo.

https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html

Peter

On 11/17/06, Tim Ashman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I disagree, my cell phone runs java ME,  I think the 770 should be able to run
some version of it.  At least enough of it to allow for a browser plugin to
work.

tim

On 11/16/2006 11:56 pm, Jos Vos wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:13:48PM -0600, Comcast wrote:
> > O.K. A question for the web browser developers. Now that Sun has
> > open sourced Java, how long will it be before we see it included in the
> > 770's browser?
>
> Sus has *not* yet open sourced Java, they announced to release the
> first open source code in March 2007, IIRC.  So only at that moment,
> looking at the real code, people can see how difficult it is to port
> it and start estimating how long that will take.
>
> Seeing how killing (in the negative sense) Java is on old computers
> with little memory, I doubt whether it's feasible to use it on the
> 770, but we'll see...
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Re: [maemo-users] Charger Blues

2007-01-03 Thread René Seindal

Amichai Rotman wrote (03-01-2007 08:14):

Hi All,
 
I bought my N770 while visiting the UK a few months back.
 
The charger (AC4-X) cable snappt at the root of the end that goes to the 
wall. Now I cannot charge my device :-(
 
I am now back home and this particular charger model isn't available. 
Furthermore, the local Nokia rep doesn't support the N770 because it 
isn't a cell phone
 
I know all new models come with a similar charger (with the mini plug) 
and so I found a charger with similar tech specs (input and output), by 
similar I mean the output mA is 860 instead of 890...
 
I charged it once with a friend's charger and it worked fine - except 2 
things:
 
I charged it while the device was off. The battery icon showed up and 
after a few second begun to animate the charge. A while later I noticed 
the screen was off completely - no indication for the charging process. 
I turned the device on and it booted faster than usual and the battery 
animation was still showing
 
The other thing I noticed was: the charge didn't last like it used to. I 
might be wrong, because I left FBReader open and the Online Mode on (I 
usually don't have network access at work, so I leave it Offline).
 
Is it OK to use a different charger with the same specs? Am I doing 
something that will cause damage to the device? the battery?


You can use any Nokia charger with a 2mm connector - I often use the one 
I got with my Nokia 6131 phone.  It is the same charger used by the 
N-series of Nokia phones.


You can also buy a small adapter cable from the Nokia 3.5mm connector to 
the new 2mm connector, in case you have old Nokia adapters lying around 
like I have.


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[maemo-users] Nokia 770 after flash only luminous screen,Help.

2007-01-03 Thread haiyin Qiu

Hi,
I just update my maemo from my linux PC, following the suggestion from
maemo.org. After the PC show "Suitable USB device not found, waiting" , my
770 shows a nokia picture, but it still keep showing the same picutre after
1.5 hours. I think the reflash produce should be finished in 1.5 hours. And
there is no message show in my PC.

So... I break the PC process with ctrl+c and shut down the 770 with on/off.
when I open 770 again, it is only luminous screen, nothing show on. Then I
can't shut down again.

So I can only take out the battery. when I input it again, and open 770
with on/off+ home buttons.only luminous screen again. When I only press
on/off button, 770 will be luminous for a while and shut down automatically.


When I later, try to reflash again. but there on nokia picture show on my
770.

What is wrong with my 770. Does it crash, what can I do?


Thanks for your reading and help

Yan
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[maemo-users] IT-2005: Creating entry in start menu(s)&[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-01-03 Thread Sergei Ushakov
Hello
I've updated http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_SimpleToggles article to
reflect latest firmware changes


> On Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 03:43:54PM -0700, david feldman wrote:
> > In IT-2005 on Nokia 770, is it possible for a normal user to create a new 
> > entry in one of the start menus (example, in "extras")? Where are these 
> > (start items) stored, and in what format?
> 
> Freedesktop-style .desktop files somewhere in /var/lib/install/.  I
> forgot where exactly -- etc/others-menu?.  It's not hard to find if you
> browse around.
> 
> Marius Gedminas
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[maemo-users] Nokia 770 after flash only luminous screen,Help.

2007-01-03 Thread haiyin Qiu

Hi,
I just update my maemo from my linux PC, following the suggestion from
maemo.org. After the PC show "Suitable USB device not found, waiting" , my
770 shows a nokia picture, but it still keep showing the same picutre after
1.5 hours. I think the reflash produce should be finished in 1.5 hours. And
there is no message show in my PC.

So... I break the PC process with ctrl+c and shut down the 770 with on/off.
when I open 770 again, it is only luminous screen, nothing show on. Then I
can't shut down again.

So I can only take out the battery. when I input it again, and open 770
with on/off+ home buttons.only luminous screen again. When I only press
on/off button, 770 will be luminous for a while and shut down automatically.

When I later, try to reflash again. but there on nokia picture show on my
770.

What is wrong with my 770. Does it crash, what can I do?


Thanks for your reading and help

Yan
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[maemo-users] www.komputika.net: Appears to be dead

2007-01-03 Thread Winter Laite
Is there any other place to get the tools in this repository?
Thank you,
burque

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[maemo-users] using ssh/dropbear?

2007-01-03 Thread D. R. Evans
a. I am running the very latest firmware, installed a couple of days ago.
b. I have downloaded the dropbear ssh client/server package. There were no
errors during installation.

So now I have two very simple (and obvious) questions:

1. How do I start the ssh server?
2. How do I start the client?

And there's also question 1a: how do I tell the N770 to start the server
each time when it reboots?

  Doc Evans




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Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java

2007-01-03 Thread Tim Ashman
I disagree, my cell phone runs java ME,  I think the 770 should be able to run 
some version of it.  At least enough of it to allow for a browser plugin to 
work.

tim

On 11/16/2006 11:56 pm, Jos Vos wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:13:48PM -0600, Comcast wrote:
> > O.K. A question for the web browser developers. Now that Sun has
> > open sourced Java, how long will it be before we see it included in the
> > 770's browser?
>
> Sus has *not* yet open sourced Java, they announced to release the
> first open source code in March 2007, IIRC.  So only at that moment,
> looking at the real code, people can see how difficult it is to port
> it and start estimating how long that will take.
>
> Seeing how killing (in the negative sense) Java is on old computers
> with little memory, I doubt whether it's feasible to use it on the
> 770, but we'll see...
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