Re: [maemo-users] FM Radio - suggestions
David Hagood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In the US, and IIRC in the rest of the world as well, FM radio stations are on 200kHz channel spacings, on frequencies with an odd 100 kHz digit - in other words, 87.5, 87.7, 87.9, 88.1, etc. In Germany there are stations with e.g. 89.9, 94.4 - so the even 100 kHz digits are used as well. But yeah, a spacing at 50kHz is not necessary and the automatic scanning usually stops one step before the real frequency, so that tapping the one-step-button produces better results (suddenly stereo works). It probably would be better to try locking in the real frequency, i.e. if there is a candidate, try a bit further and if it gets worse, go back again. Also tapping the scan button should probably skip 100kHz or so, because frequently you get the same station again. Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] FM Radio - suggestions
David Hagood wrote: In the US, and IIRC in the rest of the world as well, FM radio stations are on 200kHz channel spacings, on frequencies with an odd 100 kHz digit - in other words, 87.5, 87.7, 87.9, 88.1, etc. Ermm, no. That is not true for Germany, at least, 100kHz stepping is the norm, fm stations are also on the even 100 kHz digits. Ralph pgpuKmbQQXQHH.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Some xterm questions
Hi, Is there a way to use whereis command in xTerm? I think (IMHO) it's more useful than Find command. Also, is it possible to view the last linux commands inserted (like pressing the Arrow Up key from a keyboard)? Thanks in advance, Antonio ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Nokia Internet Tablet as Pennnetration Testing Device
Of course, they mis-characterize the 770 as a PDA, but the usage and development is interesting. Seems like a nice business to upsell the $350 Nokia tablet for $3000. Whatever gadget/box you have, you could follow protocols and do the job. Netcat, nmap, dsniff, socat, to number few, make you take control of tcp, udp, icmp... No need for James_Bond_apps. Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Some xterm questions
Is there a way to use whereis command in xTerm? I think (IMHO) it's more useful than Find command. I've seen which on 770. Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Some xterm questions
On 2/9/07, Log2Ins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there a way to use whereis command in xTerm? I think (IMHO) it's more useful than Find command. I often use type ~ $ hostname Nokia-N800-51 ~ $ type ls ls is /bin/ls greetings ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Abnormal power consumption on N800
Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an N800, and there are 2 wireless networks in the office, with two SSID hpcfwl and guestwl, I defined them both on the N800, but hpcfwl won't let me connect until I add the Mac address to the access point's ACL. guestwl does let me connect. The problem is that the N800 tries to connect to the hpcfwl when I walk in the door, and eats a full charge in a few hours. The status bar shows a ? on the connection icon. I have now heard few reports of WLAN consuming too much power. Usually it's a sign of WLAN not going to Power Save Mode and it happens because of some odd IOP problems with certain Access Points. I would like know more details about this hpcfwl. I would be interested know at least it's make and model, but firmware version also would be good to know. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Internal Error. Application closed.
On 2/9/07, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
Anyone see this before on an N800?
I am getting it for Control Panel, Web, Bookmarks... etc etc...
a!
Do I need to reflash? Is there some other fix anyone can think of?
I've found this and quite isolated the problem.
This happens more often if you have rd-mode DISABLED, if you enable it
you'll still get this error, but it's rare.
Which release you're using?
My first quess would be that the device runs out of memory (because
something (Canola?) is using a lot of it, maybe because it leaks) and
allocations are denied to applications (by kernel) and if that happens
inside anything using Glib (such as Gtk), the Glib aborts the process.
How much free memory (free+buffers+cached) the device has when this
starts to happen more frequently?
Anyway, I don't see what in RD mode could be affecting memory usage...
Could you isolate it better?
This seems to happen if exceeded number of DBus connections, at
least I get this error when trying to use anything (launch from xterm,
both with and without run-standalone)
I've never seen this error message.
Does it come from the application or the D-BUS daemon?
What:
cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
tells about file descriptor usage in the whole system?
And what:
for pid in /proc/[0-9]*; do
cmd=$(tr '\0' ' '$pid/cmdline);
if [ $cmd ]; then
echo $(ls -l $pid/fd/|wc -l) ${cmd%% *}[${pid##*/}];
fi;
done|sort -n
lists as number of file descriptors used by the processes?
attached are the results I got when error happens. You can see that
file descriptors are still available.
This is with canolla installed, but canola app itself is not running.
However, there is canola-conf and avahi running.
Seems that the session bus is saturated, launching apps from xterm
(with and without run-standalone.sh) display:
GLIB WARNING ** GConf - Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
The maximum number of active connections for UID 2 has been reached
GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running
Any hints?
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1 init[1]
3 /sbin/getty[1184]
3 /usr/sbin/temp-reaper[765]
4 /bin/sh[1190]
4 /bin/sh[1192]
4 /sbin/udhcpc[1025]
4 /usr/bin/clipboard-manager[1069]
4 /usr/bin/hildon-input-method[1044]
4 /usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop[1021]
4 /usr/bin/matchbox-window-manager[776]
4 /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs[1040]
4 /usr/bin/osso-xterm[1104]
4 /usr/lib/galago/telepathy-feed[1056]
4 /usr/libexec/galago-daemon[1052]
4 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq[713]
4 gnome-pty-helper[1108]
4 sh[1115]
4 sh[1524]
5 /bin/sh[1138]
5 /usr/bin/alarmd[1123]
5 /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2[733]
5 /usr/sbin/sdpd[812]
5 sh[1548]
5 sh[1553]
6 /usr/bin/bme-dbus-proxy[839]
6 /usr/bin/mission-control[1050]
6 /usr/bin/telepathy-gabble[1054]
6 /usr/sbin/dsp_dld[789]
6 /usr/sbin/hcid[800]
6 /usr/sbin/wlancond[926]
7 /usr/bin/esd[861]
7 /usr/bin/obexsrv[1099]
8 /sbin/mce[730]
8 /sbin/udevd[435]
8 /usr/bin/maemo-launcher[951]
8 /usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server[772]
8 /usr/libexec/dbus-vfs-daemon[993]
8 /usr/sbin/icd[929]
9 /usr/bin/bme[332]
9 /usr/bin/btcond[884]
9 /usr/bin/ias[1072]
9 /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs[1041]
9 /usr/bin/osso_hss[856]
9 /usr/bin/systemui[1095]
10 /usr/bin/hildon-input-method[1045]
10 /usr/libexec/e-addressbook-factory[1036]
10 /usr/libexec/e-addressbook-factory[1047]
11 /usr/bin/canola-conf[1183]
11 /usr/bin/canola-conf[1185]
11 /usr/bin/osso-media-server[1082]
12 avahi-daemon:[1132]
13 /usr/bin/mediaplayer-engine[1165]
13 /usr/bin/mediaplayer-engine[1167]
13 /usr/bin/metalayer-crawler[1174]
13 /usr/bin/metalayer-crawler[1175]
13 /usr/bin/osso-xterm[1105]
15 /usr/bin/Xomap[736]
15 /usr/sbin/ke-recv[919]
24 dsme[325]
24 dsme[327]
24 dsme[328]
25 /usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop[1022]
28 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon[768]
45 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon[719]
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 12725281072461800 416
Swap:000
Total: 1272528107246180
12740 4096
PID Uid VmSize Stat Command
1 root476 S init [2]
2 rootSWN [ksoftirqd/0]
3 rootSW [watchdog/0]
4 rootSW [events/0]
5 rootSW
Re: [maemo-users] Internal Error. Application closed.
Hi,
ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
Anyone see this before on an N800?
I am getting it for Control Panel, Web, Bookmarks... etc etc...
a!
Do I need to reflash? Is there some other fix anyone can think of?
I've found this and quite isolated the problem.
This happens more often if you have rd-mode DISABLED, if you enable it
you'll still get this error, but it's rare.
Which release you're using?
My first quess would be that the device runs out of memory (because
something (Canola?) is using a lot of it, maybe because it leaks) and
allocations are denied to applications (by kernel) and if that happens
inside anything using Glib (such as Gtk), the Glib aborts the process.
How much free memory (free+buffers+cached) the device has when this
starts to happen more frequently?
Anyway, I don't see what in RD mode could be affecting memory usage...
Could you isolate it better?
This seems to happen if exceeded number of DBus connections, at
least I get this error when trying to use anything (launch from xterm,
both with and without run-standalone)
I've never seen this error message.
Does it come from the application or the D-BUS daemon?
What:
cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
tells about file descriptor usage in the whole system?
And what:
for pid in /proc/[0-9]*; do
cmd=$(tr '\0' ' '$pid/cmdline);
if [ $cmd ]; then
echo $(ls -l $pid/fd/|wc -l) ${cmd%% *}[${pid##*/}];
fi;
done|sort -n
lists as number of file descriptors used by the processes?
attached are the results I got when error happens. You can see that
file descriptors are still available.
This is with canolla installed, but canola app itself is not running.
However, there is canola-conf and avahi running.
Seems that the session bus is saturated, launching apps from xterm
(with and without run-standalone.sh) display:
GLIB WARNING ** GConf - Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
The maximum number of active connections for UID 2 has been reached
GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running
Ok, the maximum number error comes from D-BUS. UID 2 is the user
under which all the applications (and some other processes) in the
device are run under. D-BUS seems to be keeping could of connections
per user which in Maemo doesn't make sense, as almost everything is run
as user user and almost everything uses D-BUS.
Any hints?
Seems like something does a lot of D-BUS connections.
According to the file descriptor usage, there are not that many
connections open at that moment, so maybe D-BUS counts all connections,
not just active ones in which case e.g. opening and closing D-BUS
connection each time one sends a message would be really bad also
for rest of the applications system, not just for the performance
of that particular process...
As this problem seems to be Canola related and can happen also after
Canola is uninstalled and device rebooted, does Canola muck up with
D-BUS configuration?
- Eero
1 init[1]
3 /sbin/getty[1184]
3 /usr/sbin/temp-reaper[765]
4 /bin/sh[1190]
4 /bin/sh[1192]
4 /sbin/udhcpc[1025]
4 /usr/bin/clipboard-manager[1069]
4 /usr/bin/hildon-input-method[1044]
4 /usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop[1021]
4 /usr/bin/matchbox-window-manager[776]
4 /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs[1040]
4 /usr/bin/osso-xterm[1104]
4 /usr/lib/galago/telepathy-feed[1056]
4 /usr/libexec/galago-daemon[1052]
4 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq[713]
4 gnome-pty-helper[1108]
4 sh[1115]
4 sh[1524]
5 /bin/sh[1138]
5 /usr/bin/alarmd[1123]
5 /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2[733]
5 /usr/sbin/sdpd[812]
5 sh[1548]
5 sh[1553]
6 /usr/bin/bme-dbus-proxy[839]
6 /usr/bin/mission-control[1050]
6 /usr/bin/telepathy-gabble[1054]
6 /usr/sbin/dsp_dld[789]
6 /usr/sbin/hcid[800]
6 /usr/sbin/wlancond[926]
7 /usr/bin/esd[861]
7 /usr/bin/obexsrv[1099]
8 /sbin/mce[730]
8 /sbin/udevd[435]
8 /usr/bin/maemo-launcher[951]
8 /usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server[772]
8 /usr/libexec/dbus-vfs-daemon[993]
8 /usr/sbin/icd[929]
9 /usr/bin/bme[332]
9 /usr/bin/btcond[884]
9 /usr/bin/ias[1072]
9 /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs[1041]
9 /usr/bin/osso_hss[856]
9 /usr/bin/systemui[1095]
10 /usr/bin/hildon-input-method[1045]
10 /usr/libexec/e-addressbook-factory[1036]
10 /usr/libexec/e-addressbook-factory[1047]
11 /usr/bin/canola-conf[1183]
11 /usr/bin/canola-conf[1185]
11 /usr/bin/osso-media-server[1082]
12 avahi-daemon:[1132]
13 /usr/bin/mediaplayer-engine[1165]
13 /usr/bin/mediaplayer-engine[1167]
13 /usr/bin/metalayer-crawler[1174]
13 /usr/bin/metalayer-crawler[1175]
13 /usr/bin/osso-xterm[1105]
RE: [maemo-users] Internal Error. Application closed.
I get internal error, application closed with e-mail if it's open for any
length of time and I have several e-mails.
Regards,
Nick Shaw
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:53 AM
To: Eero Tamminen
Cc: maemo users
Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Internal Error. Application closed.
On 2/9/07, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
Anyone see this before on an N800?
I am getting it for Control Panel, Web, Bookmarks... etc etc...
a!
Do I need to reflash? Is there some other fix anyone can think of?
I've found this and quite isolated the problem.
This happens more often if you have rd-mode DISABLED, if you enable it
you'll still get this error, but it's rare.
Which release you're using?
My first quess would be that the device runs out of memory (because
something (Canola?) is using a lot of it, maybe because it leaks) and
allocations are denied to applications (by kernel) and if that happens
inside anything using Glib (such as Gtk), the Glib aborts the process.
How much free memory (free+buffers+cached) the device has when this
starts to happen more frequently?
Anyway, I don't see what in RD mode could be affecting memory usage...
Could you isolate it better?
This seems to happen if exceeded number of DBus connections, at
least I get this error when trying to use anything (launch from xterm,
both with and without run-standalone)
I've never seen this error message.
Does it come from the application or the D-BUS daemon?
What:
cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
tells about file descriptor usage in the whole system?
And what:
for pid in /proc/[0-9]*; do
cmd=$(tr '\0' ' '$pid/cmdline);
if [ $cmd ]; then
echo $(ls -l $pid/fd/|wc -l) ${cmd%% *}[${pid##*/}];
fi;
done|sort -n
lists as number of file descriptors used by the processes?
attached are the results I got when error happens. You can see that
file descriptors are still available.
This is with canolla installed, but canola app itself is not running.
However, there is canola-conf and avahi running.
Seems that the session bus is saturated, launching apps from xterm
(with and without run-standalone.sh) display:
GLIB WARNING ** GConf - Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
The maximum number of active connections for UID 2 has been reached
GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running
Any hints?
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Re: [maemo-users] Abnormal power consumption on N800
On 2/9/07, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an N800, and there are 2 wireless networks in the office, with two SSID hpcfwl and guestwl, I defined them both on the N800, but hpcfwl won't let me connect until I add the Mac address to the access point's ACL. guestwl does let me connect. The problem is that the N800 tries to connect to the hpcfwl when I walk in the door, and eats a full charge in a few hours. The status bar shows a ? on the connection icon. It'll be hard to test now, but my--gut reaction--guess would be that your N800 is continuously polling the access point for DHCP. Did it give an error about local network addresses or the like? I'm not sure I've see the '?' icon before and it would be interesting to know exactly how much network you get on hpcfwl without having your MAC in the ACL. Does it assign you a non-routable address and stick you in a VLan so you can't do any harm, does it just refuse to talk to your device, or what? Your network engineer might have some ideas with this... --Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Internal Error. Application closed.
On 2/9/07, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
Anyone see this before on an N800?
I am getting it for Control Panel, Web, Bookmarks... etc etc...
a!
Do I need to reflash? Is there some other fix anyone can think of?
I've found this and quite isolated the problem.
This happens more often if you have rd-mode DISABLED, if you enable it
you'll still get this error, but it's rare.
Which release you're using?
My first quess would be that the device runs out of memory (because
something (Canola?) is using a lot of it, maybe because it leaks) and
allocations are denied to applications (by kernel) and if that happens
inside anything using Glib (such as Gtk), the Glib aborts the process.
How much free memory (free+buffers+cached) the device has when this
starts to happen more frequently?
Anyway, I don't see what in RD mode could be affecting memory usage...
Could you isolate it better?
This seems to happen if exceeded number of DBus connections, at
least I get this error when trying to use anything (launch from xterm,
both with and without run-standalone)
I've never seen this error message.
Does it come from the application or the D-BUS daemon?
What:
cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
tells about file descriptor usage in the whole system?
And what:
for pid in /proc/[0-9]*; do
cmd=$(tr '\0' ' '$pid/cmdline);
if [ $cmd ]; then
echo $(ls -l $pid/fd/|wc -l) ${cmd%% *}[${pid##*/}];
fi;
done|sort -n
lists as number of file descriptors used by the processes?
attached are the results I got when error happens. You can see that
file descriptors are still available.
This is with canolla installed, but canola app itself is not running.
However, there is canola-conf and avahi running.
Seems that the session bus is saturated, launching apps from xterm
(with and without run-standalone.sh) display:
GLIB WARNING ** GConf - Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
The maximum number of active connections for UID 2 has been reached
GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running
Ok, the maximum number error comes from D-BUS. UID 2 is the user
under which all the applications (and some other processes) in the
device are run under. D-BUS seems to be keeping could of connections
per user which in Maemo doesn't make sense, as almost everything is run
as user user and almost everything uses D-BUS.
Any hints?
Seems like something does a lot of D-BUS connections.
According to the file descriptor usage, there are not that many
connections open at that moment, so maybe D-BUS counts all connections,
not just active ones in which case e.g. opening and closing D-BUS
connection each time one sends a message would be really bad also
for rest of the applications system, not just for the performance
of that particular process...
As this problem seems to be Canola related and can happen also after
Canola is uninstalled and device rebooted, does Canola muck up with
D-BUS configuration?
I'll check with DBus guys/code what it does.
But canola uses a single dbus connection, we use dbus-glib and they
say the connection is shared. Same for canola-conf.
This bug shows when I have speed contacts on or when I have some
high traffic mail account, like my gmail/pop3. This with a fresh
install/no canola. :-(
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Re: [maemo-users] Nokia Internet Tablet as Pennnetration Testing Device
I think the 770/800 ARE pdas (in pocket pc form factor). A pda is a pocketable (generally) computer. The term PDA could also apply to umpc possibly. From wikipedia... Personal digital assistant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_digital_assistant, an electronic device which can include some of the functionality of a computer, /a cellphone/, a music player and a camera Also from wikipedia: The *Ultra-Mobile PC* (abbreviated *UMPC*), previously known by its codename *Project Origami*, is a specification for a small form factor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_factor tablet PC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_PC. I consider the PepperPad3 and Samung Q1 umpcs. I generally categorize devices not by PIM/pda terms...but by their size (pocket pc, umpc). I consider the blown out digital phones to be merely pocket pc's but with cellular capability. The term smartphone has been applied to this. mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just saw this posted on Slashdot a bit aog: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=19 Of course, they mis-characterize the 770 as a PDA, but the usage and development is interesting. Seems like a nice business to upsell the $350 Nokia tablet for $3000. K ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Do you want to install as many applications as you like?
This is something I was waiting for, the previous documentation was incomplete/fragmented/not-updated; this Sebas' howto is a very good example of howto writing. I've been able to follow it without any worry and everything works very well. I have appreciated a lot the line he used in every document edited: This procedure has been tested on a Nokia 770 with ITOS 3.2006.49-2 This type of statement is something I miss from other wiki pages or maemo tutorials on web, where discovering that the stuff used by the author is not the same of the user is left to the user himself, sometimes with not so nice effects. This is especially true in this Maemo world, where there are already two different hardware systems (770 and N800) and each one has different versions of OS, with somehow confusing names, and using one instead of another one usually is not the same. Of course, this has nothing to do with quality of the wiki pages, and of the authors: I've benefited from them a lot, many are very well written and useful, and as a linux newbie I wouldn't have gone so far without them. I really love the work that wiki authors have done, or blog owners, etc. But I just want to underline the need of specifying *ALWAYS* the hardware used for testing (770? N800? ...next model?) and the OS version installed: this would simplify the path and avoid potential problems derived from possible incompatibilities. Hope this message is visible hidden in this thread - btw feel free to spread the pray! :) -- Antonio ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Internal Error. Application closed.
I think i found the problem, at least when canola is installed. We are
shipping a version of avahi that installs a dbus config file. This
config file has a bug that sets the max_connections_per_user limit to
20. The default dbus 0.61 shipped with maemo comes with the limit set
to 128. Removing the line from avahi-dbus.conf fix the problem that we
are facing after canola installation.
But, but, even with canola not installed the bug happens sometimes, so
maybe it would be good if you guys could increase the limit to 256 on
maemo (bus/config-parser.c), as it's today on dbus cvs.
BR
Andrunko
On 2/9/07, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
Anyone see this before on an N800?
I am getting it for Control Panel, Web, Bookmarks... etc etc...
a!
Do I need to reflash? Is there some other fix anyone can think of?
I've found this and quite isolated the problem.
This happens more often if you have rd-mode DISABLED, if you enable it
you'll still get this error, but it's rare.
Which release you're using?
My first quess would be that the device runs out of memory (because
something (Canola?) is using a lot of it, maybe because it leaks) and
allocations are denied to applications (by kernel) and if that happens
inside anything using Glib (such as Gtk), the Glib aborts the process.
How much free memory (free+buffers+cached) the device has when this
starts to happen more frequently?
Anyway, I don't see what in RD mode could be affecting memory usage...
Could you isolate it better?
This seems to happen if exceeded number of DBus connections, at
least I get this error when trying to use anything (launch from xterm,
both with and without run-standalone)
I've never seen this error message.
Does it come from the application or the D-BUS daemon?
What:
cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
tells about file descriptor usage in the whole system?
And what:
for pid in /proc/[0-9]*; do
cmd=$(tr '\0' ' '$pid/cmdline);
if [ $cmd ]; then
echo $(ls -l $pid/fd/|wc -l) ${cmd%% *}[${pid##*/}];
fi;
done|sort -n
lists as number of file descriptors used by the processes?
attached are the results I got when error happens. You can see that
file descriptors are still available.
This is with canolla installed, but canola app itself is not running.
However, there is canola-conf and avahi running.
Seems that the session bus is saturated, launching apps from xterm
(with and without run-standalone.sh) display:
GLIB WARNING ** GConf - Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
The maximum number of active connections for UID 2 has been reached
GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running
Ok, the maximum number error comes from D-BUS. UID 2 is the user
under which all the applications (and some other processes) in the
device are run under. D-BUS seems to be keeping could of connections
per user which in Maemo doesn't make sense, as almost everything is run
as user user and almost everything uses D-BUS.
Any hints?
Seems like something does a lot of D-BUS connections.
According to the file descriptor usage, there are not that many
connections open at that moment, so maybe D-BUS counts all connections,
not just active ones in which case e.g. opening and closing D-BUS
connection each time one sends a message would be really bad also
for rest of the applications system, not just for the performance
of that particular process...
As this problem seems to be Canola related and can happen also after
Canola is uninstalled and device rebooted, does Canola muck up with
D-BUS configuration?
- Eero
1 init[1]
3 /sbin/getty[1184]
3 /usr/sbin/temp-reaper[765]
4 /bin/sh[1190]
4 /bin/sh[1192]
4 /sbin/udhcpc[1025]
4 /usr/bin/clipboard-manager[1069]
4 /usr/bin/hildon-input-method[1044]
4 /usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop[1021]
4 /usr/bin/matchbox-window-manager[776]
4 /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs[1040]
4 /usr/bin/osso-xterm[1104]
4 /usr/lib/galago/telepathy-feed[1056]
4 /usr/libexec/galago-daemon[1052]
4 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq[713]
4 gnome-pty-helper[1108]
4 sh[1115]
4 sh[1524]
5 /bin/sh[1138]
5 /usr/bin/alarmd[1123]
5 /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2[733]
5 /usr/sbin/sdpd[812]
5 sh[1548]
5 sh[1553]
6 /usr/bin/bme-dbus-proxy[839]
6 /usr/bin/mission-control[1050]
6 /usr/bin/telepathy-gabble[1054]
6 /usr/sbin/dsp_dld[789]
6 /usr/sbin/hcid[800]
6 /usr/sbin/wlancond[926]
7 /usr/bin/esd[861]
7 /usr/bin/obexsrv[1099]
8 /sbin/mce[730]
8 /sbin/udevd[435]
8 /usr/bin/maemo-launcher[951]
8 /usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server[772]
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Re: [maemo-users] Abnormal power consumption on N800
Paul Klapperich wrote: It'll be hard to test now, but my--gut reaction--guess would be that your I can get the mac address taken out of the list if anyone needs me to run more tests. N800 is continuously polling the access point for DHCP. Did it give an error about local network addresses or the like? I'm not sure I've see the '?' icon before and it would be interesting to know exactly how much network you get on hpcfwl without having your MAC in the ACL. Does it assign you a non-routable address and stick you in a VLan so you can't do any harm, does it just refuse to talk to your device, or what? Your network engineer might have some ideas with this... As far as I know, the AP won't let me associate at all. Both hpcfwl and guestwl are on the same access point, on different vlans. guestwl will let anyone associate, and the vlan has a DHCP server that gives me an address. hpcfwl won't let me associate if the Mac address isn't in the list. The vlan for this ssid has a different DHCP server, but as far as I know I haven't gotten to the point of talking to that DHCP server when the N800 is draining the battery. It looks to me like it keeps polling trying to associate with the AP. Is there some command I can run to confirm this? -- Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Programmer-Archaeologist UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Internal Error. Application closed.
I think i found the problem, at least when canola is installed. We are shipping a version of avahi that installs a dbus config file. This config file has a bug that sets the max_connections_per_user limit to 20. The default dbus 0.61 shipped with maemo comes with the limit set to 128. Removing the line from avahi-dbus.conf fix the problem that we are facing after canola installation. But, but, even with canola not installed the bug happens sometimes, so maybe it would be good if you guys could increase the limit to 256 on maemo (bus/config-parser.c), as it's today on dbus cvs. Is there really a good reason to have a hard limit on this on devices like the ITs? Can it not be unlimited? -- It doesn't take a nukular scientist to pronounce foilage! --Marge Simpson http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Abnormal power consumption on N800
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 17:42 +0200, Kalle Valo wrote: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an N800, and there are 2 wireless networks in the office, with two SSID hpcfwl and guestwl, I defined them both on the N800, but hpcfwl won't let me connect until I add the Mac address to the access point's ACL. guestwl does let me connect. The problem is that the N800 tries to connect to the hpcfwl when I walk in the door, and eats a full charge in a few hours. The status bar shows a ? on the connection icon. I have now heard few reports of WLAN consuming too much power. Usually it's a sign of WLAN not going to Power Save Mode and it happens because of some odd IOP problems with certain Access Points. I would like know more details about this hpcfwl. I would be interested know at least it's make and model, but firmware version also would be good to know. On this choice of defined connection, I added a bugzilla: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1043 Add priority to defined wifi connections Laurent ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Rhapsody service?
Seen under tableteer 'Enhanced' tab, in FMRADIO section: the Rhapsody service is almost here... What is this service about? -- Laurent in Nantes, France. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] Internal Error. Application closed.
Usually the only applications I have open continually are gpe-todo and gpe-contacts. When on the road, I open e-mail and after a few minutes of opening/deleting e-mail - internal error, application is closing (or words to that effect). I'm able to open e-mail again but it just happens again. I've come to accept that the e-mail program is very buggy. I tried shutting down both gpe programs but the result is the same. One day, I'm sure, a more stable version will come out, either from Nokia or someone else. :-) Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 11:00 AM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: Eero Tamminen; maemo users Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Internal Error. Application closed. On 2/9/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get internal error, application closed with e-mail if it's open for any length of time and I have several e-mails. For sure you are not using canola on you n800. Which other apps are open/installed? -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 17249123 Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (81) 9927 0010 Phone: +1 (347) 624 6296; [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 0xB640E1A2 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] N800 doesn't charge that well
I have a N770 and an N800, I have had issues where I leave the N800 charging with the N770 cable and it doesnt charge at all. It doesnt loose power but it doesnt increase it either. When I plug it in, I am able to see the charging icon but when I unplug it, I see that the bars are still on the same position. Anyone has been in this situation? -- Kahlil Johnson Ya tengo GMAIL!! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Rhapsody service?
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 22:45 +0100, Laurent MARTIN wrote: Seen under tableteer 'Enhanced' tab, in FMRADIO section: the Rhapsody service is almost here... What is this service about? Probably this: http://learn.rhapsody.com/ Rhapsody is a membership-based music service that gives you unlimited access to a catalog of millions of full length, CD-quality tracks. Listen whenever you want, get personalized music suggestions tailored to your musical tastes, and take your music with you wherever you go. [...] Rhapsody and the Rhapsody MP3 Player combine to deliver an experience as unique as your taste in music. You'll discover new artists and old favorites based on the music you love and have unlimited access to millions of songs. Laurent http://guerby.org/blog/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Problem connecting to AOL IMAP Server
All, I cannot seem to get the N800 mail client to successfully connect to the AOL IMAP service. I know this service works because I use it with several mail clients including Netscape, Thunderbird, and Outlook running on Windows XP, and the mail clients on Windows Mobile 5.0 and Microsoft PPC 2003, no problem. I have checked and rechecked the user name, pw, server name and TCP port # to no avail. Any insights would be appreciated. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Nokia Internet Tablet as Pennnetration Testing Device
On Friday 09 February 2007 10:17:37 Mike Klein wrote: I think the 770/800 ARE pdas (in pocket pc form factor). A pda is a pocketable (generally) computer. The term PDA could also apply to umpc possibly. I see your point but to remember. PDA originally referred to Personal Digital Assistant aka palm handsprings et al. I'd not put the 770/n800 clan in that group myself. Then again PC originally meant Personal Computer not Windows Installed on x86 James From wikipedia... Personal digital assistant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_digital_assistant, an electronic device which can include some of the functionality of a computer, /a cellphone/, a music player and a camera Also from wikipedia: The *Ultra-Mobile PC* (abbreviated *UMPC*), previously known by its codename *Project Origami*, is a specification for a small form factor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_factor tablet PC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_PC. I consider the PepperPad3 and Samung Q1 umpcs. I generally categorize devices not by PIM/pda terms...but by their size (pocket pc, umpc). I consider the blown out digital phones to be merely pocket pc's but with cellular capability. The term smartphone has been applied to this. mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just saw this posted on Slashdot a bit aog: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=19 Of course, they mis-characterize the 770 as a PDA, but the usage and development is interesting. Seems like a nice business to upsell the $350 Nokia tablet for $3000. K ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
