Re: [maemo-users] Bad Freedom Input keyboard or poor kbdd driver on N800?

2007-02-10 Thread Gavin O' Gorman

On 10/02/07, centipede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

functions less than stellar on N800. I almost has to punch down the keys
and hold them for a short while. The keys seem to soften up a bit, when
used. But still a lot of keypresses are missed. I've watched the output of
kbdd in the shell, and it seems like the driver skips more keys the faster
I type.

How fast can you type with that keyboard? I'm almost as fast with the
on-screen keyboard...


Just my experience with the driver on the 770. It's far more stable
than it used to be, for whatever reason. The keyboard itself is not
the best quality, some keys do require quite a bit of force to be
registered. There is some lag, akin to a ssh session over a modem
perhaps and on the rare occasion the keys do repeat. Having said all
that however, I can type reasonably quickly with it, certainly much
faster than the on screen keyboard. I have yet to test it for extended
sessions.

Gav
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Re: [maemo-users] N800 doesn't charge that well

2007-02-10 Thread Larry Battraw

On 2/9/07, Kahlil Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a N770 and an N800, I have had issues where I leave the N800
charging with the N770 cable and it doesnt charge at all. It doesnt
loose power but it doesnt increase it either.

When I plug it in, I am able to see the charging icon but when I
unplug it, I see that the bars are still on the same position.

Anyone has been in this situation?


 I haven't personally seen it-- I use both chargers interchangeably,
but I've heard of one person that couldn't use the 770 charger with
their n800 at all.  To the best of my knowledge the chargers are
identical so I'm not sure why this should be the case unless there was
something wrong with the charger.  If you plug in your n800 to the
n800 charger does it proceed to charge normally if you switch chargers
after seeing this behavior?

Larry
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[maemo-users] Python2.5 not available for ITOS 3.2006.49-2 ?

2007-02-10 Thread Antonio Orlando
Hi, some time ago I successfully installed and used Python 2.5 runtime and  
dev packages on my Nokia 770, following the instructions on the Python for  
Maemo page on garage. Now I've updated the firmware with ITOS 3.2006.49-2,  
but trying to follow the same instructions I cannot find the packages,  
neither with Application manager or with apt-get install from terminal.


Does it mean Python 2.5 is not available for ITOS 3.2006.49-2 on Nokia 770?
Will it be available in (how much?) time or I should revert to Python 2.4  
(which seems available among the proposed packages in the Application  
manager)?


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Re: [maemo-users] FM Radio - suggestions

2007-02-10 Thread Tristan Wibberley
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 10:03 +0200, Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Last - It would be nice to allow the alarm system to start the radio -
  for a clock radio function.
 
 Hey, that's an excellent idea! I want that feature too.
 
 (I'm not involved with FM radio in anyway, just acting here as a N800
 user.)

It would be good if that was only available if the FM radio applet were
on the home page, and if removing the applet told you it was
reconfiguring any alarms to not use the radio. Just so it's really easy
to turn it off, change station, etc when the alarm goes off.

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Re: [maemo-users] FM Radio - suggestions

2007-02-10 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/10/07, Tristan Wibberley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 10:03 +0200, Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Last - It would be nice to allow the alarm system to start the radio -
  for a clock radio function.

 Hey, that's an excellent idea! I want that feature too.

 (I'm not involved with FM radio in anyway, just acting here as a N800
 user.)

It would be good if that was only available if the FM radio applet were
on the home page, and if removing the applet told you it was
reconfiguring any alarms to not use the radio. Just so it's really easy
to turn it off, change station, etc when the alarm goes off.


I'd like to see FM radio integrated with the Internet radio applet so
that there is only one applet on the desktop. This would also allow
coordinating  muting of the radio streams, FM and Internet appear to
be on two different audio paths. If you turn on the Internet radio the
FM radio continues to play and is mixed in. That's probably not what
you want, but your do want alerts from the desktop mixed in.

Alarm functions would be nice. The radio app could also display a
large clock when open. The alarm could be made smart too, if Internet
or FM were not available it could try the other and then fall back to
recorded music just to make sure the alarm is heard.

Check out Chumby, http://www.chumby.com/
Chumby is a wifi clock radio that allows you to download various flash
applets to customize your experience. It would be very easy to make
the N800 emulate the Chumby. There are links to example widgets on the
home page.

I'd like to see a world clock for an alarm where is shows the current
day/night line.

Is the N800 smart enough to know when it is on AC and not blank the
display? The N770 didn't appear to have this feature. The clock could
be set as a screen saver when on AC power.

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[maemo-users] Two power management settings (was: FM Radio - suggestions)

2007-02-10 Thread Neil MacLeod

Jon Smirl wrote:

Is the N800 smart enough to know when it is on AC and not blank the
display? The N770 didn't appear to have this feature. The clock could
be set as a screen saver when on AC power.



I think it's a mistake that there is only one set of power management timeouts 
- there should be separate timeouts for battery and AC power.

With two power management settings you would specify much longer dim and 
blanking screen timeout values (perhaps even infinite) when the device is on AC 
power, but specify short values (perhaps 2 and 5 minutes) when on battery power.

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[maemo-users] FM Radio -- dependencies?

2007-02-10 Thread Rick Prelinger
My fmradio installation fails because of a missing package: 
libosso-help0(=2.08).  From what I can tell, I believe I have the proper 
repositories installed.

Is this an obvious problem?

Many thanks, and all best,

Rick


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Re: [maemo-users] FM Radio -- dependencies?

2007-02-10 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On my N800 libosso-help0 is there, I don't remember doing anything
special:

~ $ dpkg -s  libosso-help0   
Package: libosso-help0
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: misc
Installed-Size: 96
Maintainer: Jakub Pavelek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: armel
Source: libosso-help
Version: 2.0.8-1
Depends: gtkhtml0, hildon-libs0 (= 0.14.11-1), libart-2.0-2 (=
2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (= 1.9.0), libc6 (= 2.3.5-1), libdbus-1-2 (=
0.61), libdbus-glib-1-2 (= 0.61), libgconf2-6 (= 2.6.4.15),
libglib2.0-0 (= 2.8.6-1osso1), libgtk2.0-0 (= 2:2.6.10-1.osso8),
libjpeg62, libosso1 (= 1.20-1), libpango1.0-0 (= 1.8.1), libpng12-0
(= 1.2.8rel), libxml2 (= 2.6.16), zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1)
Description: OSSO Help Runtime library
 Shared library required for running Help UI and integrating
 with other applications.

With what tool did you try to install fmradio?

Laurent

On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 15:05 -0800, Rick Prelinger wrote:
 My fmradio installation fails because of a missing package: 
 libosso-help0(=2.08).  From what I can tell, I believe I have the proper 
 repositories installed.
 
 Is this an obvious problem?
 
 Many thanks, and all best,
 
 Rick
 
 

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[maemo-users] Using my treo for bluetooth DUN

2007-02-10 Thread Ron Harwood
Hey all,

So I've replaced my WSOD 770 with an n800 (tigerdirect let me pay the
difference to upgrade since they held the extended warranty...) 

I had the 770 working with my treo flawlessly... but I can't get the
n800 to use it for DUN... It can see it, pair with it... mark it as a
phone... I can set up the connection... but it doesn't offer it as a
selection for network connections.  

I'm setting it up as a cdma phone... when I try to set it up as a
GSM/UMTS it sees the connection and of course, doesn't work...

Anyone else have this combo working or have advice for me?

Thanks,

Ron

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Re: [maemo-users] Two power management settings (was: FM Radio - suggestions)

2007-02-10 Thread Larry Battraw

On 2/10/07, Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jon Smirl wrote:
 Is the N800 smart enough to know when it is on AC and not blank the
 display? The N770 didn't appear to have this feature. The clock could
 be set as a screen saver when on AC power.


I think it's a mistake that there is only one set of power management timeouts 
- there should be separate timeouts for battery and AC power.

With two power management settings you would specify much longer dim and 
blanking screen timeout values (perhaps even infinite) when the device is on AC 
power, but specify short values (perhaps 2 and 5 minutes) when on battery power.


 The 770/n800 both know perfectly well when they're on AC or being
charged.  Having different behaviors would make sense; the Zaurus SL
series did this.  I'm guessing it's mostly a situation where there are
too many things to work on and too few hands to work on it!  :-)
Anyway, if it's important enough perhaps someone should submit a RFE;
I'm less concerned about it than system bugs and USB host, for
example.

Larry
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Re: [maemo-users] Two power management settings (was: FM Radio - suggestions)

2007-02-10 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/10/07, Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jon Smirl wrote:
 Is the N800 smart enough to know when it is on AC and not blank the
 display? The N770 didn't appear to have this feature. The clock could
 be set as a screen saver when on AC power.


I think it's a mistake that there is only one set of power management timeouts 
- there should be separate timeouts for battery and AC power.

With two power management settings you would specify much longer dim and 
blanking screen timeout values (perhaps even infinite) when the device is on AC 
power, but specify short values (perhaps 2 and 5 minutes) when on battery power.


There is a significant application area being missed by not having two
power settings. When you get to your desk and plug the device in it
should, if you configure it to, leave the screen on and run a screen
saver type application. This screen saver could work as a clock, music
player with album art, show pictures of the kids, show your calendar,
etc, etc. This passive behavior should be automatic as soon as the
device is plugged into AC.

This application area is what chumby, www.chumby.com, is all about.
The N770/N800 can be useful on the desk as well as on the go.


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