Re: Maemo at CeBIT 2007?
Please avoid crossposting. On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 11:08 +0100, ext Hanno Zulla wrote: > will there be Maemo-related items at the CeBIT in Hannover? Not this time, sorry. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Coming back to Glade]]
Hi, Hi, El mié, 28-02-2007 a las 17:05 +0100, ext Claudio Scordino escribió: from a mail posted in August I've seen that "the glade-support has been stripped and gazpacho support is still under way.." on Maemo. libglade is still supported in bora release, and it is available on repository.maemo.org. Gazpacho is not currently included on the SDK release. It was using an old and patched version. The idea is to use now gazpacho upstream version plus gazpacho-hildon adaptors and some custom plugins to make maemo developement easy. I've some questions, because I suppose that the Glade-2 designer is more useful than Gazpacho when programing in C, so probably I missed something... - Gazpacho does not export any C interface with the callback support. It does not create .c and .h files either. Glade, instead, does. How can I set the callbacks using Gazpacho ? - The gazpacho xml is not fully compatible with libglade yet as reported in the Gazpacho website - How can I use Hildon? Do I need libglade? Since libglade does not completely support Gazpacho, we would prefer using Glade. Is it still possible ? (some dependencies about Gazpacho seem hard-coded inside the Laika plugin for Eclipse...) gazpacho support perfectly libglade format. It is even ready for the upcoming GtkBuilder format. The web site reports something different. Is still possible to launch glade2 in Xephyr under Scratchbox? Why Maemo does not provide both choices ? Regards Michael ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Applications unexpectedly closing on n800
Hi! I have application that unexpectedly close on my n800. In the beginning it was only E-Mail. Now E-Mail doesn't want to launch at all anymore. Now also RSS Reader closes when I'm using it. Can this be because i replaced my original memory card with a 2Gb Kingston RS-MMC? I have never played with root access, nor have i re-flashed my device. The device is new (bought from the Nokia online store) and this behavior is from the first day i used it. Any ideas? Ton. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Coming back to Glade]]
El mié, 07-03-2007 a las 16:59 +0100, ext Michael Trimarchi escribió: > I've some questions, because I suppose that the Glade-2 designer is more > useful than Gazpacho when programing in C, so probably I missed something... > > - Gazpacho does not export any C interface with the callback support. It > does not create .c and .h files either. Glade, instead, does. How can I > set the callbacks using Gazpacho ? Never generate code with glade. NEVER. It's evil. glade-2 developers recommend to use only .glade files and load them using libglade. Glade-3 doesn't support at all generating code. The normal way is create the .glade file with glade-2 or gazpacho. Then load the .glade file with libglade functions. Then in your code you can access the widgets with: item = glade_xml_get_widget (xml, "quitbutton"); and then connect the signal like this: g_signal_connect (item, "click", quit_callback, NULL); > - The gazpacho xml is not fully compatible with libglade yet as reported > in the Gazpacho website That is only some in some corner cases when you what to use advanced features like storing data in a treeview from the designer. You should not worry about this. > - How can I use Hildon? Do I need libglade? to use the Hildon widgets you can just install the gazpacho-hildon package and automatically you will have all the hildon widgets available in gazpacho: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gazpacho-hildon/ Salu2 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Applications unexpectedly closing on n800
Hi, ext Ton Machielsen wrote: I have application that unexpectedly close on my n800. In the beginning it was only E-Mail. Now E-Mail doesn't want to launch at all anymore. Now also RSS Reader closes when I'm using it. Can this be because i replaced my original memory card with a 2Gb Kingston RS-MMC? I have never played with root access, nor have i re-flashed my device. The device is new (bought from the Nokia online store) and this behavior is from the first day i used it. Any ideas? Have you installed any extra software? - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
External Monitor
I think I know the answer but need to ask it anyway just in case. I've seen pictures of Nokia displaying the N800 desktop onto an external monitor. Is it possible for US to display to an external monitor? If so, how? Regards, Nick Shaw. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor
VNC works but is I'm sure not whaat you are asking.. On 3/7/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think I know the answer but need to ask it anyway just in case. I've seen pictures of Nokia displaying the N800 desktop onto an external monitor. Is it possible for US to display to an external monitor? If so, how? Regards, Nick Shaw. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor
The pictures you saw were quite possibly the development environment --Paul On 3/7/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think I know the answer but need to ask it anyway just in case. I've seen pictures of Nokia displaying the N800 desktop onto an external monitor. Is it possible for US to display to an external monitor? If so, how? Regards, Nick Shaw. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor
I think I know the answer but need to ask it anyway just in case. I've seen pictures of Nokia displaying the N800 desktop onto an external monitor. Is it possible for US to display to an external monitor? If so, how? VNC works but is I'm sure not whaat you are asking.. To clarify, it's possible to view the "desktop" of the N800 in a window on another computer over the network via VNC. It's not possible to hook it up to a monitor via a cable. Thanks, Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor
You're correct, Jonathan. I'm running VNC to connect to my Linux server today. With the new Bluetooth keyboard arriving on Monday (I return home on Saturday), it would be great if I could send the display to an external monitor. For traveling, the N800 display is great but not so when you're just sitting in front of a bunch of computers. :-) Nick Shaw On Wed Mar 7 16:38 , "Jonathan Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>sent: VNC works but is I'm sure not whaat you are asking.. On 3/7/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think I know the answer but need to ask it anyway just in case. I've seen > pictures of Nokia displaying the N800 desktop onto an external monitor. Is > it possible for US to display to an external monitor? If so, how? > > Regards, > > Nick Shaw. > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: External Monitor
Thanks, Mike. That's what I suspected. I'm thinking now, based upon your and Jonathan's responses that I may be able to accomplish the same thing using VNC. I currently have a VMware instance running on a system with the VMware instance displaying on a 2d monitor. Perhaps I can do the same with VNC accomplishing the objective. I'll have to try that when I return. Appreciate the quick responses! Nick Shaw On Wed Mar 7 16:43 , Mike Lococo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>sent: >> I think I know the answer but need to ask it anyway just in case. >> I've seen pictures of Nokia displaying the N800 desktop onto an >> external monitor. Is it possible for US to display to an external >> monitor? If so, how? > > VNC works but is I'm sure not whaat you are asking.. To clarify, it's possible to view the "desktop" of the N800 in a window on another computer over the network via VNC. It's not possible to hook it up to a monitor via a cable. Thanks, Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Coming back to Glade]]
Fernando Herrera wrote: El mié, 07-03-2007 a las 16:59 +0100, ext Michael Trimarchi escribió: I've some questions, because I suppose that the Glade-2 designer is more useful than Gazpacho when programing in C, so probably I missed something... - Gazpacho does not export any C interface with the callback support. It does not create .c and .h files either. Glade, instead, does. How can I set the callbacks using Gazpacho ? Never generate code with glade. NEVER. It's evil. glade-2 developers recommend to use only .glade files and load them using libglade. Glade-3 doesn't support at all generating code. Oh, now I see! Can I have more information about why glade-2 messed up generating code files ? Wasn't the problem fixable at all ? There's still one more difference between Glade-2 and Gazpacho: there is much more documentation for Glade than for Gazpacho. Actually, I couldn't find any manual or guide for using Gazpacho... I hope that this issue will be fixed soon. Regards, Claudio ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: WLAN Power Save Mode timeout
Sorry, but I find it hard to believe that Cisco APs would not properly work with TKIP or AES. Cisco APs are of the best quality I have ever seen. And all the EAP tests in Wi-Fi certifications are run with either TKIP or AES (Wi-Fi Alliance calls it WPA-Enterprise, or something like that), so it's widely tested as well. The problem (in my case) is that I don't have control over the AP configurations. I would be perfectly happy to use the currently-supported WPA algorithms if I had the ability to do so. > wpasupplicant already supports EAP-TTLS, how hard would it be for > a poweruser to use it instead of the current supplicant? Do you already know that N800 already supports EAP-TTLS, with TKIP or AES encryption? About using wpasupplicant. I think it shouldn't be too hard to use wpasupplicant on 770 or N800. The wireless extension interface to the WLAN driver isn't quite up-to-date, so you would have to do some tweaking there. And of course you would have to bypass all UI, icd and wlancond components. But it should be doable. If it's easy enough for a power user to do, will nokia also work to support it in the built-in connection manager? Since we've established that it's a semi-standard problem for IT users? -- It doesn't take a nukular scientist to pronounce foilage! --Marge Simpson http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Coming back to Glade]]
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 05:55:58PM +0100, Claudio Scordino wrote: > >Never generate code with glade. NEVER. It's evil. glade-2 developers > >recommend to use only .glade files and load them using libglade. Glade-3 > >doesn't support at all generating code. > > Oh, now I see! > > Can I have more information about why glade-2 messed up generating code > files ? Wasn't the problem fixable at all ? It is a generic problem when you use some UI tool/wizard to generate source code, and then modify the source code. If you later want to tweak something, you have to do it in the code (inconvenient), or if you use the same tool to regenerate code, you'll have to redo all your modifications (painful). Marius Gedminas -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet? signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: External Monitor
But it would be great to be able to deliver presentations from the n800 directly. I see from the TI website that the OMAP processor has a TV out feature (probably not cabled out anywhere accessible) I also see that over the years there have been various USB and SD-card format video adaptors produced. Did anyone manage to get anything like this working with the 770 ? What are the hopes of getting video out of an n800 directly ? Alan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dr.Nicholas Shaw Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 8:53 AM To: Mike Lococo Cc: Maemo Users Subject: Re: External Monitor Thanks, Mike. That's what I suspected. I'm thinking now, based upon your and Jonathan's responses that I may be able to accomplish the same thing using VNC. I currently have a VMware instance running on a system with the VMware instance displaying on a 2d monitor. Perhaps I can do the same with VNC accomplishing the objective. I'll have to try that when I return. Appreciate the quick responses! Nick Shaw On Wed Mar 7 16:43 , Mike Lococo sent: >> I think I know the answer but need to ask it anyway just in case. >> I've seen pictures of Nokia displaying the N800 desktop onto an >> external monitor. Is it possible for US to display to an external >> monitor? If so, how? > > VNC works but is I'm sure not whaat you are asking.. To clarify, it's possible to view the "desktop" of the N800 in a window on another computer over the network via VNC. It's not possible to hook it up to a monitor via a cable. Thanks, Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Creation of a maemo leaflet
I got one good answer and I decided to go ahead: http://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemoflyer/ You are invited to join. On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 09:14 +0200, ext Quim Gil wrote: > Dear maemo power users, > > We have some budget to print maemo leaflets primarily to be given in > Nokia stands in mobile/multimedia related events (not necessarily open > source). The idea is to have something self-explanatory the people in > the stand can give away without having to provide much information > themselves. > > Until now we had like business cards produced by the maemo team. We > could reprint them or make some improvements internally, but when the > request came I thought it could be an opportunity to open a project in > garage.maemo.org and working something together, if there is an > interest. > > I'm posting this proposal here in maemo-users since this might be an > opportunity to get involved for those (like me) without remarkable > programming skills. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Coming back to Glade]]
Hi, Added CC to the developers list as I think this belongs there too. ext Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 05:55:58PM +0100, Claudio Scordino wrote: Never generate code with glade. NEVER. It's evil. glade-2 developers recommend to use only .glade files and load them using libglade. Glade-3 doesn't support at all generating code. Oh, now I see! Can I have more information about why glade-2 messed up generating code files ? Wasn't the problem fixable at all ? It is a generic problem when you use some UI tool/wizard to generate source code, and then modify the source code. If you later want to tweak something, you have to do it in the code (inconvenient), or if you use the same tool to regenerate code, you'll have to redo all your modifications (painful). There are many RAD tools which handle the round-trip (some less well than the others). AFAIK with Glade the issue was that it just doesn't belong into Glade, it should be done by other, specialized programs. For example each language which has separate Gtk/Glade bindings (C, C++ etc) could have it's own code generator tool. Anyway, for interpreted languages like Python, Ruby, PHP, Perl etc. loading the Glade file with libglade is probably faster than the generated code that would be interpreted. And on Desktop reading the .glade files directly is fast enough in itself I think, the problem is just embedded devices. Also, C (in which Glade is written) is not exactly known to be best language for doing language parses (for the round-trip), but e.g. Python has actually several modules for writing language parses. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
