claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Alan Williamson

Morning one and all,

I installed the CLAWS release yesterday and it seem to install perfectly 
with no error messages of missing libraris, but when i run it up, it 
does the loading screen at the top right but then nothing!  Anything i 
need to do?


I love my N800, but Nokia really dropped the ball by installing a third 
rate mail client on it.  I mean IMAP that can't handle folders!!!


At any rate, i have hope!!!

thanks

a
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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread JL
Hi,

 Morning one and all,
 
 I installed the CLAWS release yesterday and it seem to install
 perfectly with no error messages of missing libraris, but when i run
 it up, it does the loading screen at the top right but then nothing!
 Anything i need to do?

I have built the package and installed on my 770 with OS2007
hacker edition (I do not have a n800 ). It is possible that the
requirements are not exactly the same with a true n800.
Can you launch claws-mail in a xterm and say me the result of the
command?
To install xterm, add a new catalog in applications manager :
Address :
http://repository.maemo.org, distribution : bora and components : free
non-free extras
In application list, install osso-xterm.

 
 I love my N800, but Nokia really dropped the ball by installing a
 third rate mail client on it.  I mean IMAP that can't handle
 folders!!!
 

Claws-mail is wrote by a developpers team and ported by me (and Colin
Leroy) to Maemo. Nokia did not do anything for that. If that does not
go, it is my fault.
But the question is why Nokia prefer write a new email client less
powerful (not usable in fact) whereas others already exist. I have
ported claws-mail to Maemo on 1 week. Nokia has developers more and
better than me. It would have ported it easily. But I do not know all,
there are perhaps other reasons. 

Jean-Luc Biord

 At any rate, i have hope!!!
 
 thanks
 
 a
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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Jean-Luc Biord

Thank you for this information.
JL, me, Jean-Luc Biord is the packager. It's alan who has the problem 
with his real n800. But if you have a real n800 too, it's an other 
problem, you are right.

The result of launching in xterm will help I think.

JL

I have updated Claws mail to 2.9.0 and it is perfectly working on my n800.
So far so good.

Thus, if there's a problem, it may not be a Claws mail problem.

This just to help restrict the set of problems that may cause Claws 
mail not to start up correctly on JL's n800.


On 4/17/07, *JL* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Morning one and all,

 I installed the CLAWS release yesterday and it seem to install
 perfectly with no error messages of missing libraris, but when i run
 it up, it does the loading screen at the top right but then
nothing!
 Anything i need to do?

I have built the package and installed on my 770 with OS2007
hacker edition (I do not have a n800 ). It is possible that the
requirements are not exactly the same with a true n800.
Can you launch claws-mail in a xterm and say me the result of the
command?
To install xterm, add a new catalog in applications manager :
Address :
http://repository.maemo.org http://repository.maemo.org,
distribution : bora and components : free
non-free extras
In application list, install osso-xterm.


 I love my N800, but Nokia really dropped the ball by installing a
 third rate mail client on it.  I mean IMAP that can't handle
 folders!!!


Claws-mail is wrote by a developpers team and ported by me (and Colin
Leroy) to Maemo. Nokia did not do anything for that. If that does not
go, it is my fault.
But the question is why Nokia prefer write a new email client less
powerful (not usable in fact) whereas others already exist. I have
ported claws-mail to Maemo on 1 week. Nokia has developers more and
better than me. It would have ported it easily. But I do not know all,
there are perhaps other reasons.

Jean-Luc Biord

 At any rate, i have hope!!!

 thanks

 a
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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Andrew Flegg

On 4/17/07, JL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


But the question is why Nokia prefer write a new email client less
powerful (not usable in fact) whereas others already exist. I have
ported claws-mail to Maemo on 1 week. Nokia has developers more and
better than me. It would have ported it easily. But I do not know all,
there are perhaps other reasons.


osso-email is currently based on a (heavily) modified Sylpheed, but
with broken requirements like enforcing wrong-styled quoting.

Modest is a from-scratch email client based on TinyMail and Camel (the
underpinnings of Evolution). I haven't yet looked at Modest, but from
the screenshots it looks very similar to osso-email. Hopefully,
however, the broken UI requirements have been revised.

I think the problem here (from comments on maemo-developers) is that
the maxim don't let developers set requirements or design UIs is
only true for software the developers themselves don't use. *Everyone*
uses email, and it's amazing that good programs can be modified  so
badly with poor design decisions.

Cheers,

Andrew

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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Alan Williamson

finally got this one done ...

error while loading shared libraries: libXau.so.0


Thanks for helping out.  Appreciate it.

Now what?

[sorry, the list doesn't default to it when replying; JL didn't mean to 
spam you directly!]


JL wrote:

I have built the package and installed on my 770 with OS2007
hacker edition (I do not have a n800 ). It is possible that the
requirements are not exactly the same with a true n800.
Can you launch claws-mail in a xterm and say me the result of the
command?

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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Jean-Luc Biord
Hi,
You have right, claws require libxau0. I will modify the package to add
it. 
JL

 finally got this one done ...
 
 error while loading shared libraries: libXau.so.0
 
 
 Thanks for helping out.  Appreciate it.
 
 Now what?
 
 [sorry, the list doesn't default to it when replying; JL didn't mean
 to spam you directly!]
 
 JL wrote:
  I have built the package and installed on my 770 with OS2007
  hacker edition (I do not have a n800 ). It is possible that the
  requirements are not exactly the same with a true n800.
  Can you launch claws-mail in a xterm and say me the result of the
  command?
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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Alan Williamson

aaah thank you, you are a good man.

Jean-Luc Biord wrote:

Hi,
You have right, claws require libxau0. I will modify the package to add
it. 

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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread JL
Ok repository is updated. Please remove the claws-mail package
previously installed. Update your aplications manager to refresh the
dependencies then reinstall the package (and say me if it works)

Thanks,
Jean-Luc Biord

 aaah thank you, you are a good man.
 
 Jean-Luc Biord wrote:
  Hi,
  You have right, claws require libxau0. I will modify the package to
  add it. 
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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Alan Williamson

Great thanks.

However, i do not see claws on the list of installable applications 
anymore.  I have tried to refresh and what have you, but no difference.


JL wrote:

Ok repository is updated. Please remove the claws-mail package
previously installed. Update your aplications manager to refresh the
dependencies then reinstall the package (and say me if it works)

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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Jean-Luc Biord
Please verify if you have added the repository as explained here :
www.claws-mail.org/maemo (I modified his contents)

JL

 Great thanks.
 
 However, i do not see claws on the list of installable applications 
 anymore.  I have tried to refresh and what have you, but no
 difference.
 
 JL wrote:
  Ok repository is updated. Please remove the claws-mail package
  previously installed. Update your aplications manager to refresh the
  dependencies then reinstall the package (and say me if it works)
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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread alan
Works!

Beautiful  Coming via the n800 ;)
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Re: N800 switches on by itself while recharging

2007-04-17 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 09:59 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  ~ $ cat /var/lib/dsme/stats/lifeguard_resets
  /usr/sbin/dnsmasq -k -i lo -a 127.0.0.1 -z : 1 *
 
 [...]
 
  Seems that at some point dnsmasq has caused device reboot by
  dying too many times (10) in a row.
 
 Dnsmasq seem to have these strange crashes occasionally and we have
 been trying fix that to no avail. If anyone can provide more
 information about the crash, please share it us.

Is there a way to enable core dumps for selected applications? If so
that may be a solution. 

Even better: add a debug record flag and directory in the control
panel, the user can choose to activate the record flag (deactivated by
default of course), the tool gets a debug config file from a secure
Nokia server and the N800 dumps information according to the debug
config into the report directory choosen by the user. The user has then
the option to upload crash and various report of this directory to Nokia
using the same tool.

Laurent


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Re: N800 switches on by itself while recharging

2007-04-17 Thread Kalle Valo
Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there a way to enable core dumps for selected applications?
 If so that may be a solution.

 You can enable them for all applications by creating a core-dumps
 directory to the external MMC.

 Unfortunately the cards are mounted with user user, so processes
 like dsnmasq which are run as user nobody cannot dump core to
 the MMC unless you re-mount it so that everybody can write there
 (and even then you don't always get core dumps from segfaulted
 processes for some reason).

Ah, that explains why we couldn't get core dumps with dnsmasq. This is
a tricky bug, any ideas how to get more information?

-- 
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Re: N800 switches on by itself while recharging

2007-04-17 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Laurent GUERBY wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 09:59 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ~ $ cat /var/lib/dsme/stats/lifeguard_resets
 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq -k -i lo -a 127.0.0.1 -z : 1 *
 [...]

 Seems that at some point dnsmasq has caused device reboot by
 dying too many times (10) in a row.
 Dnsmasq seem to have these strange crashes occasionally and we have
 been trying fix that to no avail. If anyone can provide more
 information about the crash, please share it us.
 
 Is there a way to enable core dumps for selected applications?
 If so that may be a solution.

You can enable them for all applications by creating a core-dumps
directory to the external MMC.

Unfortunately the cards are mounted with user user, so processes
like dsnmasq which are run as user nobody cannot dump core to
the MMC unless you re-mount it so that everybody can write there
(and even then you don't always get core dumps from segfaulted
processes for some reason).


 Even better: add a debug record flag and directory in the control
 panel, the user can choose to activate the record flag (deactivated by
 default of course), the tool gets a debug config file from a secure
 Nokia server and the N800 dumps information according to the debug
 config into the report directory choosen by the user. The user has then
 the option to upload crash and various report of this directory to Nokia
 using the same tool.

If you get core dumps, please attach them to bugzilla. I think it has
some fairly low limit on attachment sizes though.


- Eero
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Re: N800 switches on by itself while recharging

2007-04-17 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

Kalle Valo wrote:
 Is there a way to enable core dumps for selected applications?
 If so that may be a solution.
 You can enable them for all applications by creating a core-dumps
 directory to the external MMC.

 Unfortunately the cards are mounted with user user, so processes
 like dsnmasq which are run as user nobody cannot dump core to
 the MMC unless you re-mount it so that everybody can write there
 (and even then you don't always get core dumps from segfaulted
 processes for some reason).
 
 Ah, that explains why we couldn't get core dumps with dnsmasq.
 This is a tricky bug, any ideas how to get more information?

If you have trouble getting core-dumps, just attach to the process
with Gdb (after giving it the binary and making sure you have the
debug symbol file packages installed).

Note that Gdb buffers the keyboard, so if you press enter twice after
typing cont, Gdb redos the cont when the process crashes and you
get back to the Gdb prompt.  As a result the debugged process
disappears which is *very* annoying for bugs which are really hard
to reproduce (it took a while before I understood on the first time
why process exited instead I being able to get a backtrace from Gdb).
Make very sure you don't press enter any extra times...


- Eero

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Is it possible to change screen orientation with N800?

2007-04-17 Thread Thomas Gaudin

Hi,

I was wondering wether it is possible to switch from landscape to 
portrait display mode with the default setup.

If it needs customization to achieve this, which steps are needed?
Finally, is it also possible to force the display to be always in 
portrait mode, without a normal user (not root) can change it?

Thanks for your answers, any pointers are warmly welcome!

Thomas
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Re: N800 switches on by itself while recharging

2007-04-17 Thread Kalle Valo
Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ah, that explains why we couldn't get core dumps with dnsmasq.
 This is a tricky bug, any ideas how to get more information?

 If you have trouble getting core-dumps, just attach to the process
 with Gdb (after giving it the binary and making sure you have the
 debug symbol file packages installed).

We are not able to reproduce the bug at our office, so we can't use
gdb to trace it :/

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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Damien Challet
and a new problem: trying to update to version 2.9.0 on a 770, I get the 
following message:

package missing: hildon-libs0 = 0.12.24-3

I have double checked that the repository is the mistral one.

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Re: Is it possible to change screen orientation with N800?

2007-04-17 Thread Mike Lococo
I was wondering wether it is possible to switch from landscape to 
portrait display mode with the default setup.


FBReader can do this in fullscreen mode, there may or may not be other 
applications that are able to as well.  It is not (yet) possible to do 
this globally, or for the main desktop screen.


If I recall correctly, some of the infrastructure exists, and some 
enterprising developer could start work on the project (although I 
believe it's not trivial).  Search the mailing lists for 'xrandr'.


Thanks,
Mike
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Re: N800 switches on by itself while recharging

2007-04-17 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 15:39 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
 You can enable them for all applications by creating a core-dumps
 directory to the external MMC.
 
 Unfortunately the cards are mounted with user user, so processes
 like dsnmasq which are run as user nobody cannot dump core to
 the MMC unless you re-mount it so that everybody can write there
 (and even then you don't always get core dumps from segfaulted
 processes for some reason).

I tried mount -o remount,rw /media/mmc1 but nobody didn't
seem to be able to create a file in /media/mmc1/core-dumps/

What mount option should I use?

Laurent

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Re: claws mail program

2007-04-17 Thread Jean-Luc Biord
I updated the repository for Mistral users. Can you test to install
please.

Jean-Luc Biord

 and a new problem: trying to update to version 2.9.0 on a 770, I get
 the following message:
 
 package missing: hildon-libs0 = 0.12.24-3
 
 I have double checked that the repository is the mistral one.
 
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