Fwd: A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread Aaron Westerdale

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From: Aaron Westerdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Apr 22, 2007 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: A suggestion
To: Mike Lococo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I would prefer to not have the tag in the subject line since then in my
short list on my google homepage I don't get enough of the actual subject
line to see if I want to read it or not.  I simply have gmail add a tag to
my maemo emails based on the email address they are coming from so then when
I do log into my gmail client I see the tags.  And this happens
automatically as soon as I receive the email, no work on my part except
setting up the rule initially.

On 4/22/07, Mike Lococo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Yes, they can add tags, just as they could add labels before.  However,
> this means I have to add the tag manually, after I've read the message.

This is not true.  Messages are appropriately marked within the mail
headers, you need to configure your mail client to _automatically_
tag/label/sort messages based on their existing header information
_before_ you read them.

Thanks,
Mike
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"Untrusted certificate" issue...

2007-04-22 Thread Tim
Has this cropped up for anyone on the Maemo site lately? I thought that
this issue was fixed... It just started up again (for me) two days ago.

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Quiver Image Viewer for 770 / N800

2007-04-22 Thread Mike Morrison

Hello:

I have been porting my image viewer (quiver) to the maemo platform and
I now think it is in a reasonable enough state for others to try.

I've created builds for bora and gregale which you can get from one of
the following locations:

http://downloads.maemo.org/product/quiver/
http://mike.yi.org/projects/quiver/wiki/QuiverForMaemo

If you try it out, let me know what you think of it.

Mike
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Re: A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread Mike Lococo

Yes, they can add tags, just as they could add labels before.  However,
this means I have to add the tag manually, after I've read the message. 


This is not true.  Messages are appropriately marked within the mail 
headers, you need to configure your mail client to _automatically_ 
tag/label/sort messages based on their existing header information 
_before_ you read them.


Thanks,
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Re: A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread James Knott
Tuukka Tolvanen wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
>> Frédéric Crozat wrote:
>>> Le dimanche 22 avril 2007 à 10:39 -0400, James Knott a écrit :
>>>  
 On other mail lists, there is usually a tag applied to the
 messages, to
 indicate the list.  This has often kept me from deleting valid mail,
 that otherwise had a subject that might have appeared to be spam. 
 These
 tags are enclosed in square brackets, something like [maemo-u] and my
 message, for example, would appear with the subject "[maemo-u] A
 suggestion".
 Any thoughts on this?
 
>>> It has been removed some time ago, because it clutters subjects more
>>> than anything. Any good mailer can filter mails from list correctly.
>>>   
>> I prefer not to filter my mail on receipt.  I read it from my inbox and
>
> Seamonkey / Thunderbird filters can add a tag, and you can display the
> tags column next to the subject in the message list. Gmail displays
> its tags in the subject space. The relevant information is present in
> the messages, and the display is a user preference thing, so it's best
> handled in the user agent. Note the above muas can't do away with
> subject tags afaik at least ootb so the reverse setup wouldn't work
> out to various preferences quite as well.
>
> 't.
Yes, they can add tags, just as they could add labels before.  However,
this means I have to add the tag manually, after I've read the message. 
The purpose of the tag, is to identify list messages, so that I don't
mistake some questionable subjects as spam, before I've read them.  For
an example, consider a message recently posted here, with the title
"Navicore GPS software and US maps - when?".  If I didn't know there was
supposed to be a bluetooth GPS for the N800, I might suspect this was
some spam attemping to sell some GPS software.  Over the years, I have
seen many message subjects that look like spam and the mail list tags
keep me from deleting it as such.



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Re: A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 11:00:25AM -0400, James Knott wrote:
> Dan Ritter wrote:
> > Filter your mail into separate folders with procmail,
> > maildrop, or whatever feature your mail program provides.
> >
> > In the end, pretty much everyone needs to do this.
> 
> I prefer to read my mail as it comes and then delete it.  It's the rare
> message that needs to be sorted into a folder.

The request you are making suggests that you are now at the point where
you need to start automatic sorting into multiple folders.

I'll shut up now.

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Re: Application Manager Issues

2007-04-22 Thread Neil MacLeod

Matt Hughes wrote:
E: Failed to fetch http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/dists/bora/Release.gpg 
(Could not connect to catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com:80 (1.0.0.0) connection timed out.



This repository is your problem, and you can't disable it via the App Manager. 
You can manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and disable it, but this might 
cause problems with missing dependencies.

I've had the same error from time to time, perhaps the Nokia server is having a 
problem. I notice that the Downloads[1] page is screwed once again - it wasn't 
responding on Saturday, and now (Sunday) it gives a fatal Midgard error. Not 
sure if this is related to your problem, but if it is then it highlights the 
fact that server stability is paramount to avoid a very poor user experience.

1. http://downloads.maemo.org

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Re: A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread Tuukka Tolvanen

James Knott wrote:

Frédéric Crozat wrote:

Le dimanche 22 avril 2007 à 10:39 -0400, James Knott a écrit :
  

On other mail lists, there is usually a tag applied to the messages, to
indicate the list.  This has often kept me from deleting valid mail,
that otherwise had a subject that might have appeared to be spam.  These
tags are enclosed in square brackets, something like [maemo-u] and my
message, for example, would appear with the subject "[maemo-u] A
suggestion".
Any thoughts on this?


It has been removed some time ago, because it clutters subjects more
than anything. Any good mailer can filter mails from list correctly.
  

I prefer not to filter my mail on receipt.  I read it from my inbox and


Seamonkey / Thunderbird filters can add a tag, and you can display the 
tags column next to the subject in the message list. Gmail displays its 
tags in the subject space. The relevant information is present in the 
messages, and the display is a user preference thing, so it's best 
handled in the user agent. Note the above muas can't do away with 
subject tags afaik at least ootb so the reverse setup wouldn't work out 
to various preferences quite as well.


't.
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Re: A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:39:36AM -0400, James Knott wrote:
> On other mail lists, there is usually a tag applied to the messages, to
> indicate the list.  This has often kept me from deleting valid mail,
> that otherwise had a subject that might have appeared to be spam.  These
> tags are enclosed in square brackets, something like [maemo-u] and my
> message, for example, would appear with the subject "[maemo-u] A
> suggestion".
> Any thoughts on this?

Filter your mail into separate folders with procmail,
maildrop, or whatever feature your mail program provides.

In the end, pretty much everyone needs to do this.

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Re: A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread Frédéric Crozat
Le dimanche 22 avril 2007 à 10:39 -0400, James Knott a écrit :
> On other mail lists, there is usually a tag applied to the messages, to
> indicate the list.  This has often kept me from deleting valid mail,
> that otherwise had a subject that might have appeared to be spam.  These
> tags are enclosed in square brackets, something like [maemo-u] and my
> message, for example, would appear with the subject "[maemo-u] A
> suggestion".
> Any thoughts on this?

It has been removed some time ago, because it clutters subjects more
than anything. Any good mailer can filter mails from list correctly.

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Navicore GPS software and US maps - when?

2007-04-22 Thread David Hagood
Does anybody know when the GPS navigation kit with the Navicore GPS
software, US maps, and GPS will be available in the US?


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RE: Application Manager Issues

2007-04-22 Thread Matt Hughes
I hand typed that message, so that was a type.


This issue occurs for all repos I add, also for repo’s that are added via
.install files.

 

Matt

 

From: Matt Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:57 PM
To: 'Paul Yu'
Subject: RE: Application Manager Issues

 

Hi,

 

That was just a type by me. I hand wrote that message.

 

The issue happens for all repo’s I add, and also when I’m trying to use the
.install files.

 

Matt

From: Paul Yu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 6:55 PM
To: Matt Hughes
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Application Manager Issues

 

I see that "catalouge" is spelt wrong, it should be "catalogue".

- Original Message 
From: Matt Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 6:13:06 PM
Subject: Application Manager Issues

Hi all,

 

I’ve just purchased my N800 and have been having issue with trying to update
the package manager. Basically it won’t do anything it just gets stuck on
1Kb Downloading.

 

Now this is from the log:

 

W: Couldn’t stat source package list HYPERLINK
"http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com";
\nhttp://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com bora Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com_certified_dists_bora_user_
binary-armel_Packages] – stat (2 No such file or directory)

W: Couldn’t stat source package list HYPERLINK
"http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com";
\nhttp://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com bora Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com_non_certified_dists_bora_u
ser_binary-armel_Packages] – stat (2 No such file or directory)

W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

 

E: Failed to fetch HYPERLINK
"http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/dists/bora/Release.gpg";
\nhttp://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/dists/bora/Release.gpg
(Could not connect to catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com:80 (1.0.0.0) connection
timed out.

 

This happens for all repos, and I’ve run apt-get update and the result is
the same.

 

I’m not running a proxy or anything like that, just a straight connection to
my wireless modem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Matt

 

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Re: A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread James Knott
Frédéric Crozat wrote:
> Le dimanche 22 avril 2007 à 10:39 -0400, James Knott a écrit :
>   
>> On other mail lists, there is usually a tag applied to the messages, to
>> indicate the list.  This has often kept me from deleting valid mail,
>> that otherwise had a subject that might have appeared to be spam.  These
>> tags are enclosed in square brackets, something like [maemo-u] and my
>> message, for example, would appear with the subject "[maemo-u] A
>> suggestion".
>> Any thoughts on this?
>> 
>
> It has been removed some time ago, because it clutters subjects more
> than anything. Any good mailer can filter mails from list correctly.
>
>   
I prefer not to filter my mail on receipt.  I read it from my inbox and
if I want to keep it, I'll file it.


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Re: A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread James Knott
Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:39:36AM -0400, James Knott wrote:
>   
>> On other mail lists, there is usually a tag applied to the messages, to
>> indicate the list.  This has often kept me from deleting valid mail,
>> that otherwise had a subject that might have appeared to be spam.  These
>> tags are enclosed in square brackets, something like [maemo-u] and my
>> message, for example, would appear with the subject "[maemo-u] A
>> suggestion".
>> Any thoughts on this?
>> 
>
> Filter your mail into separate folders with procmail,
> maildrop, or whatever feature your mail program provides.
>
> In the end, pretty much everyone needs to do this.
>
>   

I prefer to read my mail as it comes and then delete it.  It's the rare
message that needs to be sorted into a folder.


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A suggestion

2007-04-22 Thread James Knott
On other mail lists, there is usually a tag applied to the messages, to
indicate the list.  This has often kept me from deleting valid mail,
that otherwise had a subject that might have appeared to be spam.  These
tags are enclosed in square brackets, something like [maemo-u] and my
message, for example, would appear with the subject "[maemo-u] A
suggestion".
Any thoughts on this?

tnx jk

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Re: Application Manager Issues

2007-04-22 Thread Paul Yu
I see that "catalouge" is spelt wrong, it should be "catalogue".

- Original Message 
From: Matt Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 6:13:06 PM
Subject: Application Manager Issues




 


 








Hi all,
 

  
 

I’ve just purchased my N800 and have been having issue with
trying to update the package manager. Basically it won’t do anything it just
gets stuck on 1Kb Downloading.
 

  
 

Now this is from the log:
 

  
 

W: Couldn’t stat source package list http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com
bora Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com_certified_dists_bora_user_binary-armel_Packages]
– stat (2 No such file or directory)
 

W: Couldn’t stat source package list http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com
bora Packages 
(/var/lib/apt/lists/catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com_non_certified_dists_bora_user_binary-armel_Packages]
– stat (2 No such file or directory)
 

W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these
problems
 

  
 

E: Failed to fetch 
http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/dists/bora/Release.gpg
(Could not connect to catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com:80 (1.0.0.0) connection
timed out.
 

  
 

This happens for all repos, and I’ve run apt-get update and
the result is the same.
 

  
 

I’m not running a proxy or anything like that, just a
straight connection to my wireless modem.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 



Matt
 







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Application Manager Issues

2007-04-22 Thread Matt Hughes
Hi all,

 

I’ve just purchased my N800 and have been having issue with trying to update
the package manager. Basically it won’t do anything it just gets stuck on
1Kb Downloading.

 

Now this is from the log:

 

W: Couldn’t stat source package list HYPERLINK
"http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com"http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com
bora Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com_certified_dists_bora_user_
binary-armel_Packages] – stat (2 No such file or directory)

W: Couldn’t stat source package list HYPERLINK
"http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com"http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com
bora Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com_non_certified_dists_bora_u
ser_binary-armel_Packages] – stat (2 No such file or directory)

W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

 

E: Failed to fetch HYPERLINK
"http://catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/dists/bora/Release.gpg"http:
//catalouge.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/dists/bora/Release.gpg (Could not
connect to catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com:80 (1.0.0.0) connection timed out.

 

This happens for all repos, and I’ve run apt-get update and the result is
the same.

 

I’m not running a proxy or anything like that, just a straight connection to
my wireless modem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Matt


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