Re: Problem with Xterm

[James Knott]

Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 04:19:35PM -0400, James Knott wrote:
>   
>> I just flashed my N800 with the latest version of the OS and also 
>> reinstalled Xterm.  However, I've noticed that when using the hand 
>> writing input, each time I enter a character, the entire line of 
>> characters is re-entere.  For example, if I enter "pwd", it would appear 
>> as "ppwpwd", which of course is useless.  This does not happen with the 
>> keyboard input, nor if I use hand writing in another app, such as 
>> Notes.  Any suggestions?
>> 
>
> osso-xterm from the maemo-hackers repository does not have this problem.
>
>   

After adding the eko repository and then reinstalling, the problem cleared.

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Re: Problem with Xterm

[Marius Gedminas]

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 04:19:35PM -0400, James Knott wrote:
> I just flashed my N800 with the latest version of the OS and also 
> reinstalled Xterm.  However, I've noticed that when using the hand 
> writing input, each time I enter a character, the entire line of 
> characters is re-entere.  For example, if I enter "pwd", it would appear 
> as "ppwpwd", which of course is useless.  This does not happen with the 
> keyboard input, nor if I use hand writing in another app, such as 
> Notes.  Any suggestions?

osso-xterm from the maemo-hackers repository does not have this problem.

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Problem with Xterm

[James Knott]

I just flashed my N800 with the latest version of the OS and also 
reinstalled Xterm.  However, I've noticed that when using the hand 
writing input, each time I enter a character, the entire line of 
characters is re-entere.  For example, if I enter "pwd", it would appear 
as "ppwpwd", which of course is useless.  This does not happen with the 
keyboard input, nor if I use hand writing in another app, such as 
Notes.  Any suggestions?

tnx jk

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Re: Update software

[Neil MacLeod]

James Knott wrote:
> Mikhail Sobolev wrote:
>> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:58:04PM -0400, James Knott wrote:
>>   
>>> I see there's a software update available for the N800.  Before I 
>>> install it, I'd like to know if the update will delete my apps or data 
>>> and if the backup will protect those items.
>>> 
>> Updating software means that all your applications and data will be
>> deleted.  You must perform backup before update, however you should
>> remember that:
>>  * applications won't be saved, so you'll need to install them again
>>  * only some data will be saved as not all applications indicate what
>>should be stored during backup
>>   
> 
> I just noticed you have to use Windows to update the software.  Is there 
> any other method that does not require Windows?
> 
> 
You can update using Linux using a flasher-3.0 binary downloaded from here:

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php

Instructions in the Wiki but basically connect the USB cable between the N800 
and Linux box, power on the N800 while holding the "Home" button and the device 
should enter "flasher" mode. Flash the device with "flasher-3.0 -F 
 -r -R"

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Re: Update software

[James Knott]

Mike Lococo wrote:
>> I see there's a software update available for the N800.
>
>> I just noticed you have to use Windows to update the software.  Is 
>> there any other method that does not require Windows?
>
> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Re: Update software

[James Knott]

Jonathan Greene wrote:
> http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/03/24/updated-to-2007-v3-all-good-heres-how-you-can-prepare-with-a-good-backup/
>  
>
>
> I used a Mac, though you can also do it with Linux via command line I
> believe...
>
>
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Re: Update software

[Jonathan Greene]

http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/03/24/updated-to-2007-v3-all-good-heres-how-you-can-prepare-with-a-good-backup/

I used a Mac, though you can also do it with Linux via command line I
believe...

On 5/30/07, James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mikhail Sobolev wrote:
> > On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:58:04PM -0400, James Knott wrote:
> >
> >> I see there's a software update available for the N800.  Before I
> >> install it, I'd like to know if the update will delete my apps or data
> >> and if the backup will protect those items.
> >>
> > Updating software means that all your applications and data will be
> > deleted.  You must perform backup before update, however you should
> > remember that:
> >  * applications won't be saved, so you'll need to install them again
> >  * only some data will be saved as not all applications indicate what
> >should be stored during backup
> >
>
> I just noticed you have to use Windows to update the software.  Is there
> any other method that does not require Windows?
>
>
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Re: Update software

[James Knott]

Mikhail Sobolev wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:58:04PM -0400, James Knott wrote:
>   
>> I see there's a software update available for the N800.  Before I 
>> install it, I'd like to know if the update will delete my apps or data 
>> and if the backup will protect those items.
>> 
> Updating software means that all your applications and data will be
> deleted.  You must perform backup before update, however you should
> remember that:
>  * applications won't be saved, so you'll need to install them again
>  * only some data will be saved as not all applications indicate what
>should be stored during backup
>   

I just noticed you have to use Windows to update the software.  Is there 
any other method that does not require Windows?


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Re: Update software

[Mikhail Sobolev]

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:58:04PM -0400, James Knott wrote:
> I see there's a software update available for the N800.  Before I 
> install it, I'd like to know if the update will delete my apps or data 
> and if the backup will protect those items.
Updating software means that all your applications and data will be
deleted.  You must perform backup before update, however you should
remember that:
 * applications won't be saved, so you'll need to install them again
 * only some data will be saved as not all applications indicate what
   should be stored during backup

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Update software

[James Knott]

I see there's a software update available for the N800.  Before I 
install it, I'd like to know if the update will delete my apps or data 
and if the backup will protect those items.

tnx jk

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Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround

[Frantisek Dufka]

Wahlau - wrote:
>  wonder if i can do the 
> same now with the latest firmware.

It should be fixed. Or at least it didn't happen to me yet while it 
happened about 3 times with older firmware. Also linux kernel changelog 
contains following line in kernel source package for newer release

  * TSC2301 keypad: workaround the keypad scanner stuck HW bug

I guess this might be related to that issue.

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Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround

[Wahlau -]

Hi,

well, it's never too late to share :)

anyway, we know now at least removing battery at runtime is a big NO NO. I
have not tried ejecting the camera trick, and wonder if i can do the same
now with the latest firmware.

now i am going to reinstall things, wish me luck :)

regards,
wahlau

On 30/05/07, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Wahlau - wrote:
>  the n800 just suddenly refuse to unlock. I can press
> the power button + square button as many times as i like, and the tablet
> will not want to unlock. At the end i chose to remove the battery.
>
> it turned out to be a big mistake (but what other choices do i have?)

Well it is too late but what worked for me when keys were dead in first
FW is to eject the camera. Even when keys were locked ejecting camera
executed default application as usual and then keys suddenly started to
work and I could unlock the device.

Frantisek






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Re: Gizmo and additional voip account

[jon latorre]

Hi,

El mié, 30-05-2007 a las 14:46 +0100, Duncan MacCallum escribió:
> HI,
> First posting so bear with me
> I have installed Gizmo on both N800 and winXP both have option of
> additional account but with winxp it appears that it might be posible
> to add existing voip account.
> server/name/password are offered via enable secondary login.
> 
> Is this possible on N800 and if so could my existing voip account with
> voip.co.uk be activated on my N800.

I have just setup gizmo on my N800 to use s seconds account in a custom
asterisk of my work, so, yes it's posible. When gizmo it's trying to
connect I just hit cancel, activate the secondary connection field and a
pop-up window appeared to introduce the connection data.

> Or even possible have I got the wrong end of the stick...
> 
> Cheers
> 

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Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround

[Frantisek Dufka]

Wahlau - wrote:
>  the n800 just suddenly refuse to unlock. I can press 
> the power button + square button as many times as i like, and the tablet 
> will not want to unlock. At the end i chose to remove the battery.
> 
> it turned out to be a big mistake (but what other choices do i have?)

Well it is too late but what worked for me when keys were dead in first 
FW is to eject the camera. Even when keys were locked ejecting camera 
executed default application as usual and then keys suddenly started to 
work and I could unlock the device.

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RE: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround

[Dr. Nicholas Shaw]

Nor does x11vnc enable  for most applications, or allow web
scrolling using the mouse with many (including Nokia sites) web sites.  I
still use it though as it is very useful.
Regards,

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Marius,

thanks for creating/sharing that www page. 

Concerning your wishlist item "VNCserver", have you tried using xllvnc?

For my own needs it seems to work quite well with Tightvnc on the client 
side aside from the problem of not registering stylus clicks on the left 
~cm column of the screen.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

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Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:18:08PM +0200, Wahlau - wrote:
>   
>> well, i think the N800 must have somehow read this mail itself - during
my
>> trip last week, the n800 just suddenly refuse to unlock. I can press the
>> power button + square button as many times as i like, and the tablet will
>> not want to unlock. At the end i chose to remove the battery.
>> 
>
> This happened to me twice.  It's not pleasant.  The latest firmware
> fixed the "won't unlock" bug, thankfully.
>
>   
>> it turned out to be a big mistake (but what other choices do i have?) - i
>> ended up with the n800 rebooting itself mysteriously over and over again.
>> 
>
> At least that part never happened to me.
>
>   
>> This symptom repeats with or without memory card. As soon as i get
Internet
>> connection again, i found out some had such rebooting issues too. So i
have
>> no choice but to reflash the unit.
>>
>> now i have the latest flash installed, without all the applications i
have
>> installed earlier. time to reinstall things.
>> 
>
> I created a web page for my own convenience, with links to .install
> files for all the applications I found useful:
> http://mg.pov.lt/770/reflash-n800.html
>
> New firmwares appear from time to time, and it's easier to upgrade when
> you've all the steps written down in front of you.
>
> Marius Gedminas
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Re: Dock station for Nokia770/N800

[Acadia Secure Networks]

Michael,

from the beginning of my awareness of the Internet Tablet form factor 
product ~2 years ago I have been thinking about how a docking station 
could be created for exactly the purpose you mention, i.e.."...as 
control device for music and home control systems". What I would like to 
see is  a docking station that could either be

a) used as a free standing device cradle, or, alternatively,

b) mounted in a shallow recessed wall box with AC power where the
device could be easily "unmounted" for handheld use.or
alternatively, left in the wall box and used while mounted.

With proper foresight a savvy mechanical designer, I think, could come 
up with a design that could be worked into both of the above applications.

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Michael Stepanov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a hardware feature request/question. Since Nokia770/N800 is 
> used as control device for music and home control systems - 
> http://smart-home-blog.com/archives/612 
> , 
> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/269352531_c811dd9951_s.jpg, 
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770 
> , it'd be 
> nice to have a dock station for the internet tablet. Is Nokia team 
> planning to create it?
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Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround

[Acadia Secure Networks]

Marius,

thanks for creating/sharing that www page. 

Concerning your wishlist item "VNCserver", have you tried using xllvnc?

For my own needs it seems to work quite well with Tightvnc on the client 
side aside from the problem of not registering stylus clicks on the left 
~cm column of the screen.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks


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Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:18:08PM +0200, Wahlau - wrote:
>   
>> well, i think the N800 must have somehow read this mail itself - during my
>> trip last week, the n800 just suddenly refuse to unlock. I can press the
>> power button + square button as many times as i like, and the tablet will
>> not want to unlock. At the end i chose to remove the battery.
>> 
>
> This happened to me twice.  It's not pleasant.  The latest firmware
> fixed the "won't unlock" bug, thankfully.
>
>   
>> it turned out to be a big mistake (but what other choices do i have?) - i
>> ended up with the n800 rebooting itself mysteriously over and over again.
>> 
>
> At least that part never happened to me.
>
>   
>> This symptom repeats with or without memory card. As soon as i get Internet
>> connection again, i found out some had such rebooting issues too. So i have
>> no choice but to reflash the unit.
>>
>> now i have the latest flash installed, without all the applications i have
>> installed earlier. time to reinstall things.
>> 
>
> I created a web page for my own convenience, with links to .install
> files for all the applications I found useful:
> http://mg.pov.lt/770/reflash-n800.html
>
> New firmwares appear from time to time, and it's easier to upgrade when
> you've all the steps written down in front of you.
>
> Marius Gedminas
>   
> 
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Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround

[Marius Gedminas]

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:18:08PM +0200, Wahlau - wrote:
> well, i think the N800 must have somehow read this mail itself - during my
> trip last week, the n800 just suddenly refuse to unlock. I can press the
> power button + square button as many times as i like, and the tablet will
> not want to unlock. At the end i chose to remove the battery.

This happened to me twice.  It's not pleasant.  The latest firmware
fixed the "won't unlock" bug, thankfully.

> it turned out to be a big mistake (but what other choices do i have?) - i
> ended up with the n800 rebooting itself mysteriously over and over again.

At least that part never happened to me.

> This symptom repeats with or without memory card. As soon as i get Internet
> connection again, i found out some had such rebooting issues too. So i have
> no choice but to reflash the unit.
> 
> now i have the latest flash installed, without all the applications i have
> installed earlier. time to reinstall things.

I created a web page for my own convenience, with links to .install
files for all the applications I found useful:
http://mg.pov.lt/770/reflash-n800.html

New firmwares appear from time to time, and it's easier to upgrade when
you've all the steps written down in front of you.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: Promblems with memory card

[Zoran Kolic]

> I have a 1 GB memory card in my N770, but it seems to be experiencing 
> some file system problems recently. I can no longer write to it (and not 
> delete files) but read works ok. When I try to format it (File manager - 
> Memory card - Format) it says "Memory card in use" and refuese. I have 
> stopped the canola-conf from updating, but it does not help.

You didn't say what fs is on it. Anyway, you should go as root and umount 
it. Then, just use command line options. You could even repartition it.

> I can access as root in terminal or via ssh - sudo gainroot from another 
> computer. And via USB to the card - but can I format it through usb?

There should not be difference. Choose fs and use appropriate mk.

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Gizmo and additional voip account

[Duncan MacCallum]

HI,
First posting so bear with me
I have installed Gizmo on both N800 and winXP both have option of
additional account but with winxp it appears that it might be posible
to add existing voip account.
server/name/password are offered via enable secondary login.

Is this possible on N800 and if so could my existing voip account with
voip.co.uk be activated on my N800.

Or even possible have I got the wrong end of the stick...

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Re: Promblems with memory card

[Tim]

Magnus,
 Please report your problem here:
 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204
 Thanks!
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 Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 09:59:04 +0200
 From: Magnus Larsson 
 Subject: Promblems with memory card
 To: maemo-users@maemo.org
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
 Hi!
 I have a 1 GB memory card in my N770, but it seems to be
experiencing 
 some file system problems recently. I can no longer write to it (and
not 
 delete files) but read works ok. When I try to format it (File
manager - 
 Memory card - Format) it says "Memory card in use" and refuese. I
have 
 stopped the canola-conf from updating, but it does not help.
 I can access as root in terminal or via ssh - sudo gainroot from
another 
 computer. And via USB to the card - but can I format it through usb?
 Any help warmly appreciated.
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 Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:11:41 +0200
 From: Mathias Uebelacker 
 Subject: Aw: Promblems with memory card
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], maemo-users@maemo.org,
 Message-ID:
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 Hello Magnus,
 one reason for the message "Memory card inklusive use" could be that
you use the virtuell memory. By deactivate the virtuell memory it
should be possible to format the card
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 Von: Magnus Larsson 
 An: maemo-users@maemo.org
 Gesendet: Mi., 30. Mai. 2007 09:59:04 CEST
 Betreff: Promblems with memory card
 Hi!
 I have a 1 GB memory card in my N770, but it seems to be
experiencing 
 some file system problems recently. I can no longer write to it (and
not 
 delete files) but read works ok. When I try to format it (File
manager - 
 Memory card - Format) it says "Memory card in use" and refuese. I
have 
 stopped the canola-conf from updating, but it does not help.
 I can access as root in terminal or via ssh - sudo gainroot from
another 
 computer. And via USB to the card - but can I format it through usb?
 Any help warmly appreciated.
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Re: N800: Notes from the Field - A Successful Radio Workaround

[Wahlau -]

Hi,

well, i think the N800 must have somehow read this mail itself - during my
trip last week, the n800 just suddenly refuse to unlock. I can press the
power button + square button as many times as i like, and the tablet will
not want to unlock. At the end i chose to remove the battery.

it turned out to be a big mistake (but what other choices do i have?) - i
ended up with the n800 rebooting itself mysteriously over and over again.
This symptom repeats with or without memory card. As soon as i get Internet
connection again, i found out some had such rebooting issues too. So i have
no choice but to reflash the unit.

now i have the latest flash installed, without all the applications i have
installed earlier. time to reinstall things.

at least now i have no issue with the screen being turned on alright ;)

regards,
wahlau

On 16/05/07, Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:39:48AM +0200, Wahlau - wrote:
>
> I've got my n800 last week and i have the same feeling too - the soft
case
> is more like eye candy than something i can rely on. I even found out if
i
> look the screen and slide the device in the case, if the screen is
tapped it
> will still brighten up as if it is ready to be used, although i have
> manually locked the screen.
>
> kind of funny i must say, perhaps i am just a newbie :)

That problem is fixed with the new firmware update... IMHO, worth it
for that reason alone.  :-)

- Ted





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RE: Dock station for Nokia770/N800

[Dr. Nicholas Shaw]

I like that idea.  Then I could simply hook it into my KVM switch (if a
docking station had a DVI connector for the monitor).  Yeah! :-)

 

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On Behalf Of Michael Stepanov
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:15 AM
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Dock station for Nokia770/N800

 

Hi,

I have a hardware feature request/question. Since Nokia770/N800 is used as
control device for music and home control systems -
http://smart-home-blog.com/archives/612 ,
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/269352531_c811dd9951_s.jpg,
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770 , it'd be nice
to have a dock station for the internet tablet. Is Nokia team planning to
create it?

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Michael 

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Re: Promblems with memory card

[James Knott]

Magnus Larsson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have a 1 GB memory card in my N770, but it seems to be experiencing 
> some file system problems recently. I can no longer write to it (and not 
> delete files) but read works ok. When I try to format it (File manager - 
> Memory card - Format) it says "Memory card in use" and refuese. I have 
> stopped the canola-conf from updating, but it does not help.
>
> I can access as root in terminal or via ssh - sudo gainroot from another 
> computer. And via USB to the card - but can I format it through usb?
>
> Any help warmly appreciated.
>   

Does that card work properly with other devices, such as a camera or
another computer?

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Aw: Promblems with memory card

[Mathias Uebelacker]

Hello Magnus,

one reason for the message "Memory card inklusive use" could be that you use 
the virtuell memory. By deactivate the virtuell memory it should be possible to 
format the card
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Von: Magnus Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: maemo-users@maemo.org
Gesendet: Mi., 30. Mai. 2007 09:59:04 CEST
Betreff: Promblems with memory card
Hi!

I have a 1 GB memory card in my N770, but it seems to be experiencing 
some file system problems recently. I can no longer write to it (and not 
delete files) but read works ok. When I try to format it (File manager - 
Memory card - Format) it says "Memory card in use" and refuese. I have 
stopped the canola-conf from updating, but it does not help.

I can access as root in terminal or via ssh - sudo gainroot from another 
computer. And via USB to the card - but can I format it through usb?

Any help warmly appreciated.


Magnus Larsson
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Promblems with memory card

[Magnus Larsson]

Hi!

I have a 1 GB memory card in my N770, but it seems to be experiencing 
some file system problems recently. I can no longer write to it (and not 
delete files) but read works ok. When I try to format it (File manager - 
Memory card - Format) it says "Memory card in use" and refuese. I have 
stopped the canola-conf from updating, but it does not help.

I can access as root in terminal or via ssh - sudo gainroot from another 
computer. And via USB to the card - but can I format it through usb?

Any help warmly appreciated.


Magnus Larsson
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