Re: incremental backups for your device with rdiff-backup
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 18:35 -0400, ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:48:05AM +0300, Ed Bartosh wrote: > > Hi Nick, > > > > Hm... interesting. > > > > I've checked it out with just flashed 3.2007.10-7. It works fine on my side. > > > > What I did, step by step: > > 1. Installed osso-xterm and wget > > 2. Got root on the device with sudo /usr/sbin/gainroot > > 3. Added bora and bora extras to the repository list > > echo "deb http://repository.maemo.org bora free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list > > echo "deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras bora free" >> > > /etc/apt/sources.list > > 4. installed python2.5 (apt-get update && apt-get install python2.5) > > (I'm not sure if you can do it with Application Manager) > > Just wondering -- is aptitude available on maemo? Is the Application > Manager perhaps a different UI for aptitude?? > AFIK it's not. You might wanted to say that Application Manager is different UI for apt? Yes it is. -- Ed Bartosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nokia-M/Helsinki ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: incremental backups for your device with rdiff-backup
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:32:26AM +0300, Ed Bartosh wrote: > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 18:35 -0400, ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Just wondering -- is aptitude available on maemo? Is the Application > > Manager perhaps a different UI for aptitude?? > > > AFIK it's not. > > You might wanted to say that Application Manager is different UI for > apt? > Yes it is. Trust me to ask the worng, but obvious question. The big thing that aptitude does that apt and its friends don't is keep track of dependencies between installed packages -- so that wien you uninstall a package, other packages that it depends on (and aren't needed for another purpose) are automatically uninstalled as well. It has a data base of its own in which it remembers which packages were explicitly requested and which are just dependencies. And the big problem with aptitude is that if you use apt as well as aptitude, apt never puts the packages apt installed into its data base as being explicitly requested -- so on various occasions it discovers they are no longer needed and so proposes to remove them. Does the Application manager do these things too? -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: incremental backups for your device with rdiff-backup
"ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And the big problem with aptitude is that if you use apt as well as > aptitude, apt never puts the packages apt installed into its data base > as being explicitly requested -- so on various occasions it discovers > they are no longer needed and so proposes to remove them. Exactly, that's why I gave up on it when it proposed to remove half of Gnome when I used it the first time... :-) > Does the Application manager do these things too? It does it the other way around: it keeps a database of the packages that have been installed automatically to satisfy dependencies. Whenever a package is removed, its dependencies are checked and removed as well if they are no longer needed are in the list of 'automatically installed packages'. Thus, the AM is more conservative with removals. It will not automatically remove a package that it hasn't installed in the first place. (libapt-pkg maintains a 'auto' bit for each package in its in-core data structures, but it doesn't save it to disk. That could be fixed and aptitude and the AM could then drop their own databases, and would even correctly interoperate with apt-get at that point, hopefully.) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Error installing maemo 3.1
Thanks, with this additional change, the installation is complete now. Regards, Oscar Quoting Luciano Miguel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Oscar, > > Try to copy your /etc/resolv.conf to /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf. > > Regards, > Luciano > > > ext Oscar Santolalla wrote: >> Hi, >> I editted /scratchbox/etc/nsswitsch.conf as you desribed, and now >> the error is slightly different: >> >> Running apt-get update on 'SDK_ARMEL'. >> Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages >>Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org' >> Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Release >>Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org' > > > >> http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/free/source/Sources.gz >> Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org' >> Failed to fetch >> http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/free/source/Release Temporary >> failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org' >> Reading Package Lists... Done >> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old >> ones used instead. >> E: Please correct any network problems or your targets' >> /etc/apt/sources.list. >> E: Run 'apt-get update' manually to complete installation. >> E: Scratchbox login returned error 0. >> >> >> Oscar > > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: incremental backups for your device with rdiff-backup
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 03:26:40PM +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > "ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > And the big problem with aptitude is that if you use apt as well as > > aptitude, apt never puts the packages apt installed into its data base > > as being explicitly requested -- so on various occasions it discovers > > they are no longer needed and so proposes to remove them. > > Exactly, that's why I gave up on it when it proposed to remove half of > Gnome when I used it the first time... :-) aptitude is OK if it's the *only* thing you use. > > > Does the Application manager do these things too? > > It does it the other way around: it keeps a database of the packages > that have been installed automatically to satisfy dependencies. > Whenever a package is removed, its dependencies are checked and > removed as well if they are no longer needed are in the list of > 'automatically installed packages'. > > Thus, the AM is more conservative with removals. It will not > automatically remove a package that it hasn't installed in the first > place. Sounds good. > > (libapt-pkg maintains a 'auto' bit for each package in its in-core > data structures, but it doesn't save it to disk. That could be fixed > and aptitude and the AM could then drop their own databases, and would > even correctly interoperate with apt-get at that point, hopefully.) I wonder if this should be reported as a bug for the upstream developers of apt. -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: incremental backups for your device with rdiff-backup
"ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > aptitude is OK if it's the *only* thing you use. Yes, but that is bad. It's OK to replace apt-get with aptitude, but aptitude should not assume that it is the only one using the libapt-pkg API. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
My two applications for the N800
Hi I developed two python applications for the N800 1 - Kerez It's not easy to launch recurrent commands in osso-xterm. So, Kerez let You to store these commands and launch it from a graphical interface. http://david.hautbois.free.fr/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=kerez 2 - Erminig A python application to sync GPE Calendar and Google Calendar. Features : Two ways sync recurrent events an exceptions supported add/modify/delete events Be careful and test this application with test calendars. Project homepage : http://code.google.com/p/erminig/ Packages to install : http://code.google.com/p/erminig/downloads/list Howto : http://code.google.com/p/erminig/wiki/Documentation It seems to not work with N770. Mail me, I can send to You a patch. (not validated...) I'm a newbie with Python, so these applications are not perfect... Bad and good feedbacks are welcome. David. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: My two applications for the N800
El Jueves, 7 de Junio de 2007 18:46, David Hautbois escribió: > Hi > > I developed two python applications for the N800 > > 1 - Kerez > It's not easy to launch recurrent commands in osso-xterm. > So, Kerez let You to store these commands and launch it from a graphical > interface. > > http://david.hautbois.free.fr/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=kerez Hi David Congratulations for your work. The recurrent commands are also a pain for me. I wrote a command line script for that problem, but your program is much better. Just a few things: The program specifies python 2.5. When I installed it didn't work because I have python 2.4.2. I have changed the header to generic #!/usr/bin/python and seems work. The add command dialog doesn't validate fields. A request: run commands in an xterm. That's all. Thanks again for your work. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Wiki on the N800.
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 23:53:23 Brenton Bills wrote: > Now that python is available on the N800 has anyone tryed to install > moin moin? Actually I am looking for some note taking s/w to take some > notes about my Japanese studies. I want to just record new words that > I come accross. Any suggestions? > > Brent. > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ It's a small as in tiny wiki... uses html css and javascript only James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: incremental backups for your device with rdiff-backup
On Thursday 07 June 2007 05:08:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:32:26AM +0300, Ed Bartosh wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 18:35 -0400, ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Just wondering -- is aptitude available on maemo? Is the Application > > > Manager perhaps a different UI for aptitude?? > > > > AFIK it's not. > > > > You might wanted to say that Application Manager is different UI for > > apt? > > Yes it is. > > Trust me to ask the worng, but obvious question. > > The big thing that aptitude does that apt and its friends don't is keep > track of dependencies between installed packages -- so that wien you > uninstall a package, other packages that it depends on (and aren't > needed for another purpose) are automatically uninstalled as well. It > has a data base of its own in which it remembers which packages were > explicitly requested and which are just dependencies. > > And the big problem with aptitude is that if you use apt as well as > aptitude, apt never puts the packages apt installed into its data base > as being explicitly requested -- so on various occasions it discovers > they are no longer needed and so proposes to remove them. > > Does the Application manager do these things too? > > -- hendrik if you use apt-get remove and apt-get autoremove that also works. Since that is actually what aptitude runs. Personally I never like aptitudes way of removing since it was a little too behind the back for me. I also don't like how aptitude doesn't use the dpkg database correctly. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Wiki on the N800.
On Jun 7, 2007, at 21:47, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wednesday 06 June 2007 23:53:23 Brenton Bills wrote: >> Now that python is available on the N800 has anyone tryed to install >> moin moin? Actually I am looking for some note taking s/w to take >> some >> notes about my Japanese studies. I want to just record new words that >> I come accross. Any suggestions? >> >> Brent. >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ > > It's a small as in tiny wiki... uses html css and javascript only In either case, you still need to be connected to a WiFi network or the browser won't work. Hopefully Nokia fixes this in a future release. Allan -- Allan Doyle http://museum.mit.edu/mwow +1.781.433.2695 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Wiki on the N800.
On Thursday 07 June 2007 18:56:13 Allan Doyle wrote: > On Jun 7, 2007, at 21:47, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 June 2007 23:53:23 Brenton Bills wrote: > >> Now that python is available on the N800 has anyone tryed to install > >> moin moin? Actually I am looking for some note taking s/w to take > >> some > >> notes about my Japanese studies. I want to just record new words that > >> I come accross. Any suggestions? > >> > >> Brent. > >> ___ > >> maemo-users mailing list > >> maemo-users@maemo.org > >> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ > > > > It's a small as in tiny wiki... uses html css and javascript only > > In either case, you still need to be connected to a WiFi network or > the browser won't work. Hopefully Nokia fixes this in a future release. > > Allan minimo! *grin* granted it's not as slicked out as opera but it does do the job. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Wiki on the N800.
Actually it sucks on everything I just try it on opera and firefox. On 6/7/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 07 June 2007 18:56:13 Allan Doyle wrote: > On Jun 7, 2007, at 21:47, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 June 2007 23:53:23 Brenton Bills wrote: > >> Now that python is available on the N800 has anyone tryed to install > >> moin moin? Actually I am looking for some note taking s/w to take > >> some > >> notes about my Japanese studies. I want to just record new words that > >> I come accross. Any suggestions? > >> > >> Brent. > >> ___ > >> maemo-users mailing list > >> maemo-users@maemo.org > >> https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ > > > > It's a small as in tiny wiki... uses html css and javascript only > > In either case, you still need to be connected to a WiFi network or > the browser won't work. Hopefully Nokia fixes this in a future release. > > Allan minimo! *grin* granted it's not as slicked out as opera but it does do the job. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Kahlil Johnson "Ya tengo GMAIL!!" ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Wiki on the N800.
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 06:47:25PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wednesday 06 June 2007 23:53:23 Brenton Bills wrote: > > Now that python is available on the N800 has anyone tryed to install > > moin moin? Actually I am looking for some note taking s/w to take some > > notes about my Japanese studies. I want to just record new words that > > I come accross. Any suggestions? > > > > Brent. Maybe what you want is a text editor that understands Japanese. Why a wiki? -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Wiki on the N800.
If I use a wiki I can structure it a bit one flat layout makes it harder to get what I am looking for quickly. I saw that tomboy and mono has been ported to the N800 from the google summer of code (I think) so I am going to try and compile that over the weekend. On 6/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 06:47:25PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 June 2007 23:53:23 Brenton Bills wrote: > > > Now that python is available on the N800 has anyone tryed to install > > > moin moin? Actually I am looking for some note taking s/w to take some > > > notes about my Japanese studies. I want to just record new words that > > > I come accross. Any suggestions? > > > > > > Brent. > > Maybe what you want is a text editor that understands Japanese. > Why a wiki? > > -- hendrik > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
