Re: 770 brick

[DJ Delorie]

Maybe the lithium battery is too weak to even boot far enough to turn
the charger software on?
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Re: 770 brick

[Neil MacLeod]

Jonathan Greene wrote:
> Anything like this -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmasphere/362764796/
> 
> Sounds like the 770 White Screen of Death...
> 

Doesn't sound like the WSOD to be honest, as this fault doesn't stop the device 
from booting. Frank sounds like he's suffering from some other fault, what I 
don't know. :(

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Re: Sprint's N800 with WiMAX

[Paul Klapperich]

On 8/9/07, James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > here are some comments and observations about Verizon Wireless EVDO
> > usage policy and its (and ATT's) new Mobile TV service which provides an
> > alternate means for delivering broadcast (but not on demand) network
> > content to a mobile device.
> >
> >
>
> My cell phone provider supports GPRS data.  But, as a recent article I
> read points out, if people start using those high bandwidth services
> extensively, they will severely overload the cell network.  While cell
> phones can carry data, the network was never intended to carry sucy a load.
>

I'm sorry, but that's a horrible cop out. Granted, I wouldn't doubt
that it's true, but let's get real. Analog cellular was designed for
voice, and those are about to be shut off. Digital cellular was
designed for data, but specifically voice data. The major constraint
here is that each handset has to have a maximum delay between
transmissions and a minimum data rate guaranteed. This is already
worked into the protocols. Someone downloading with bitorrent will see
slower download speeds before anyone else on the network has problems
transmitting voice. Voice is a priority.

If it actually began to be a problem, there are two solutions.

1) Let the market solve the problem. If the service starts to suck
because it's being overloaded, increase the prices. This will get more
people to drop their service and fewer people using data. Maybe they
should sell fewer "Unlimited Plans" and more "500MB/mo" plans, or
similar.

2) Increase the bandwidth on the damn networks. That doesn't
necessarily mean more bandwidth per customer, it just means more
bandwidth total allowing you to service more customers simultaneously.
This is a common ISP problem.

To some extent, they're already doing #1 and there's no reason they
can't be using some of that cash to do a better job at #2. The state
of cellular service is America is atrocious, especially given what we
pay for the service.

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Re: Sprint's N800 with WiMAX

[Mike Klein]

Microsoft has introduced wcf? framework for smtp messaging in wm6...in
part to get around port issues.

Why can't carriers merely throttle users (ala sprint supposedly) instead
of threatening with cancellation? So draconian...at least opt for 'fine'
or throttling...

The networks just aren't ready for business-grade access yet (truck
tracking aside). I can't be worried that some particular access pattern
(short of iso downloading continuously, filesharing, etc.) should be
grounds for termination. I bought the hardware for a reason and finding
you are still miles/light years away from 'information anywhere" is kind
of frustrating...especially at rates we pay for service.

If phone plans could ever be 'data only' then voip would be more of an
option (if you're talking video I'd want it now) but with current
situation you might as well use up those voice minutes.

As a non-teen I happen to use my phone like 15mins/mo probably...it's
all data basicallyyet I'm paying an extra $35 or so for voice on top
of "unlimited" data plan.

The problem with VOD from a 'corporation' as opposed to the internet or
companies that focus on this kind of thing (joost, etc.) is it's not
what YOU want and it's stale. Comcast in my area rarely rotates the
movie selection and what they do provide they are throwing commercials
and tv programs into...I want movies man. Their "tv guide" for paying
customers now has an even huger ad at the bottom and only 3? movies at a
time in scrolling windowand I'm paying $75/mo for
basic?!?+digital+single vod package (stern...it's for the intvws man!).

I've only recently converted to joost, slingplayer, mythtv, liveleak,
archive.org, etc. and I will tell you thisin no more than 1 year I
will be off 'video' from my cable provider and using as ISP only. I am
just about to 'cut' cord with landline phone company and switch to
cellular/wifi-voip exclusively. Amazon/NetFlix new models of
distribution are appealing...but the price needs to come down and
selections widened and more clients supported.

Only recent things lifting my spirits are seeing common method of
recharging devices (mini-usb).

I'm off my rant...we can change the thread of take this offline...


mike

Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
> Mike,
>
> here are some comments and observations about Verizon Wireless EVDO
> usage policy and its (and ATT's) new Mobile TV service which provides
> an alternate means for delivering broadcast (but not on demand)
> network content to a mobile device.
>
>1.I don't think that Verizon, at least, is filtering its EVDO packet
>traffic explicitly based on the protocol or TCP/UDP port #. Verizon
>Wireless has settled on an Acceptable Use Policy for its EVDO
>broadband service that imposes a 5gb/month threshold limit, above
>which the contract is deemed eligible for cancellation/termination
>by Verizon Wireless. 
>In my opinion, it would be better for Verizon Wireless to impose a
>surcharge for such excess usage than to cancel the users contract.
>
>2. Here is the url to a www page at the EVDO info www site that
>refers to that limit imposed by Verizon Wireless and provides a
>table of how much "content", on average, a user could receive and
>still remain within that 5gb monthly envelope.
>
>http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/846/63/
>
>
>VOIP, for example,  is a relatively narrowband application so,
>unless you were using VOIP all day/all the time via, say Skype or
>some other service, you would not be likely to hit the
>aforementioned 5 gb limit because of that application alone, or, for
>that matter, streaming audio either. Video is the "killer app" in
>this case which, if used will "kill" the user's service contract
>with Verizon Wireless.
>
>3. The setting of a monthly usage cap is probably the least-costly
>way for Verizon Wireless to police usage since they can, if they so
>choose, only perform the usage check at the end of the month, which
>is a lot easier for them to implement than a real-time packet by
>packet rate limit check.
>
>4. Earlier this year I attended an event sponsored by the (US)
>Congressional Internet Caucus Advisory Committee on the future of
>the Internet. This event was attended by all of the major interested
>parties (wireless and wired telcos, Google, Microsoft, etc.) and I
>spoke to one of the Verizon Wireless marketing execs about their   
> EVDO broadband service, and  their usage limitation policy. He
>followed the "party line" in responding to the effect that Verizon
>Wireless imposes the 5gb rule to "assure the quality of their
>overall EVDO service".
>
>5. More recently I met an individual at Google in the Washington
> D.C. area who is part of the recently formed Google lobbying
>organization. This is the group that made the case to the FCC (with
>partial success) to make sure that the upcoming auction in the

Re: Sprint's N800 with WiMAX

[James Knott]

Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
> Mike,
>
> here are some comments and observations about Verizon Wireless EVDO 
> usage policy and its (and ATT's) new Mobile TV service which provides an 
> alternate means for delivering broadcast (but not on demand) network 
> content to a mobile device.
>
>  

My cell phone provider supports GPRS data.  But, as a recent article I
read points out, if people start using those high bandwidth services
extensively, they will severely overload the cell network.  While cell
phones can carry data, the network was never intended to carry sucy a load.


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Re: 770 brick

[Jonathan Greene]

Anything like this -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/atmasphere/362764796/

Sounds like the 770 White Screen of Death...

On 8/9/07, Frank Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently flashed my 770 to the latest version using
> SU-18_2006SE_3.2006.49-2_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin and flasher 3.0 and it went
> very successfully. Saw a vast improvement in wireless connectivity.
> Every thing appeared fine. After a couple of days without a charge, I
> picked it up and turned it on. I got a white screen similiar to the
> screen where the progress bar loads but without the progress bar. It
> flashed quickly then went out. I plugged it in the charger and the
> white screen came on for a couple seconds then went out. I left it on
> the charger for a day but now when I turn it on I get nothing. I tried
> to reflash but the script times out waiting for a suitable device even
> with it plugged in. I removed the mmc card and tried again same
> results. AIso have  removed the battery and plugged into the power
> supply, Screen doesn't even light up. When I plug it now it blinks
> once goes out and I get nothing. Anyone have any ideas, I am hoping
> there is something I am missing.
>
> Thanks
> Frank
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770 brick

[Frank Burton]

I recently flashed my 770 to the latest version using
SU-18_2006SE_3.2006.49-2_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin and flasher 3.0 and it went
very successfully. Saw a vast improvement in wireless connectivity.
Every thing appeared fine. After a couple of days without a charge, I
picked it up and turned it on. I got a white screen similiar to the
screen where the progress bar loads but without the progress bar. It
flashed quickly then went out. I plugged it in the charger and the
white screen came on for a couple seconds then went out. I left it on
the charger for a day but now when I turn it on I get nothing. I tried
to reflash but the script times out waiting for a suitable device even
with it plugged in. I removed the mmc card and tried again same
results. AIso have  removed the battery and plugged into the power
supply, Screen doesn't even light up. When I plug it now it blinks
once goes out and I get nothing. Anyone have any ideas, I am hoping
there is something I am missing.

Thanks
Frank
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Re: Sprint's N800 with WiMAX

[Acadia Secure Networks]

Mike,

here are some comments and observations about Verizon Wireless EVDO 
usage policy and its (and ATT's) new Mobile TV service which provides an 
alternate means for delivering broadcast (but not on demand) network 
content to a mobile device.

1.I don't think that Verizon, at least, is filtering its EVDO packet
traffic explicitly based on the protocol or TCP/UDP port #. Verizon
Wireless has settled on an Acceptable Use Policy for its EVDO
broadband service that imposes a 5gb/month threshold limit, above
which the contract is deemed eligible for cancellation/termination
by Verizon Wireless.  

In my opinion, it would be better for Verizon Wireless to impose a
surcharge for such excess usage than to cancel the users contract.

2. Here is the url to a www page at the EVDO info www site that
refers to that limit imposed by Verizon Wireless and provides a
table of how much "content", on average, a user could receive and
still remain within that 5gb monthly envelope.

http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/846/63/


VOIP, for example,  is a relatively narrowband application so,
unless you were using VOIP all day/all the time via, say Skype or
some other service, you would not be likely to hit the
aforementioned 5 gb limit because of that application alone, or, for
that matter, streaming audio either. Video is the "killer app" in
this case which, if used will "kill" the user's service contract
with Verizon Wireless.

3. The setting of a monthly usage cap is probably the least-costly
way for Verizon Wireless to police usage since they can, if they so
choose, only perform the usage check at the end of the month, which
is a lot easier for them to implement than a real-time packet by
packet rate limit check.

4. Earlier this year I attended an event sponsored by the (US)
Congressional Internet Caucus Advisory Committee on the future of
the Internet. This event was attended by all of the major interested
parties (wireless and wired telcos, Google, Microsoft, etc.) and I
spoke to one of the Verizon Wireless marketing execs about their 
EVDO broadband service, and  their usage limitation policy. He
followed the "party line" in responding to the effect that Verizon
Wireless imposes the 5gb rule to "assure the quality of their
overall EVDO service".

5. More recently I met an individual at Google in the Washington
 D.C. area who is part of the recently formed Google lobbying
organization. This is the group that made the case to the FCC (with
partial success) to make sure that the upcoming auction in the us of
the upper 700 mhz band allows open access. I briefly demoed the N800
tethered via Bluetooth to a handset that was on-net with the Verizon
EVDO service.

5. Verizon Wireless as well as ATT is launching a live (QVGA
quality) broadcast video service using 700mhz channel acquired by
Qualcomm. Qualcomm converted the channel to digital using a patented
(its Qualcomm of course) OFDM derivative technology marketed by
Qualcomm as MediaFlo^1,2,3,4,5 Mediaflow capable handsets^6 (Samsung
SCH-u620 and the LG VX9400) are already on the market and Verizon
has started rolling this service out in selected markets in the U.S.
under the service name VCAST Mobile TV^7 .

Verizon Wireless, and now ATT  thus each have a built incentive to 
limit the range of capabilities of their broadband data service
(EVDO in the case of Verizon wireless and HSDPA in the case of ATT) 
when it comes to video so that users will have an incentive  to
instead purchase the  Mobile TV service. Of course with Mediaflo,
the user is limited to the channels (8 currently but with capacity
for up to 20 channels) and content that is being broadcast  by the
networks at each point in time and, as far as I know, there is not
yet any DVR capability in the aforementioned handsets for
time-shifting content playback.

 It remains to be seen whether or not mobile TV service will be
successful in the U.S. or elsewhere (I think it will be) and which
technology, Mediaflo or DVB-H (backed by the EU) will win out.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaFLO
2. http://www.qualcomm.com/mediaflo/index.shtml

3. http://www.qualcomm.com/mediaflo/news/pdf/network_diagram.pdf
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Mobility
5. http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=136850
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi53R2CDIgg
7. http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?id=mobileTV#grid

Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks




Mike Klein wrote:
> For use other than simple voice (gsm, 3g) a cellular chip would present
> some REAL political obstacles in US of course.
>
> Most US carriers (except Sprint) terms of service (tos) forbid anything
> other than straight html and pop/imap with ssl all ar

Re: GPE 2.8 released

[liz quinn]

THANKS FOR THAT, note that when I flashed to the prior 2007 release, I
dudm't losethe data. I'll research the info you gave and let everyone know
what happened.

On 8/9/07, George Farris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 22:27 +0100, Graham Cobb wrote:
> > The first stable release of GPE for the Maemo environment is now
> available.
> >
> > GPE for Maemo includes the following applications: gpe-calendar,
> gpe-contacts,
> > gpe-todo, gpe-timesheet, gpe-filemanager, starling (audio player) and
> > gpesyncd.
> >
> > The most important changes since 2.7 are:
> >
> > * A heavily improved gpe-calendar and related libraries
> > * Improved import/export and synchronisation support
> > * Starling - a new audio player for GPE
> > * Improved support for the Maemo platform (gpe-timesheet,
> gpe-filemanager,
> > gpe-calendar, Starling)
> >
> > For more information please see:
> http://www.linuxtogo.org/gpe-2-8-is-released.
>
> Does gpe-filemanger handle ssh now?  I tried ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED] but can't
> seem to get it to work.
>
>
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Re: GPE 2.8 released

[George Farris]

On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 22:27 +0100, Graham Cobb wrote:
> The first stable release of GPE for the Maemo environment is now available.
> 
> GPE for Maemo includes the following applications: gpe-calendar, 
> gpe-contacts, 
> gpe-todo, gpe-timesheet, gpe-filemanager, starling (audio player) and 
> gpesyncd.
> 
> The most important changes since 2.7 are:
> 
> * A heavily improved gpe-calendar and related libraries
> * Improved import/export and synchronisation support
> * Starling - a new audio player for GPE
> * Improved support for the Maemo platform (gpe-timesheet, 
> gpe-filemanager, 
> gpe-calendar, Starling) 
> 
> For more information please see: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gpe-2-8-is-released.

Does gpe-filemanger handle ssh now?  I tried ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED] but can't
seem to get it to work.


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Re: GPE 2.8 released

[Ryan Pavlik]

Flashing your operating system will delete all data and programs!  (It's 
as if you just unboxed the device, brand new.) So, I'd recommend the Red 
Pill method.  To back up your data, you need to back up the hidden 
directory /home/user/.gpe/ - I'm not sure if the backup and restore app 
now handles this directory properly.

Ryan

liz quinn wrote:
> I was afraid you'd say that! I have never used the command line and
> don't know how to get there. I Have not used red pill mode either. I
> can learn or ... if I do flash the latestt op sys will that do it?
> Does 2.8 look for the files in the same place.
>
> In eIther case how do you get to the command line?
>
> thanks
> On 8/9/07, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On Thursday 09 August 2007 13:39, liz quinn wrote:
>> 
>>> I am a use of the GPE Suite and really enjoy it. In trying to install the
>>> 2.7 update (calendar, contacts, timesheet, to-do) from Application Manager
>>> I am getting"unable to update, Conflicting Application packages",  Details
>>> show "Conflict with application packages: libgpevtype0"
>>>   
>> There is no need to re-flash!  Unfortunately, if you had a previous version 
>> of
>> GPE installed, the Application Manager cannot handle the package renames.
>>
>> The easiest option is to uninstall all the previous GPE packages.  This will
>> not destroy your GPE data.
>>
>> If you have root access then use apt-get to remove the packages.  The 
>> complete
>> apt-get command would be (all on one line, of course):
>>
>> apt-get remove gpe-calendar gpe-contacts gpe-icons gpe-timesheet gpe-todo
>> libcontactsdb0 libeventdb0 libgcrypt11 libgnutls11 libgpepimc0 libgpevtype0
>> libgpewidget1 libhandoff0 libmimedir0 libopencdk8 libsoup2 libsqlite0
>> libtododb0 libxsettings-client0
>>
>> If you do not have some of those packages installed, apt-get will complain --
>> just take them out of the command.  Actually, you probably don't have to
>> remove everything -- the key packages to remove before the upgrade are:
>> libeventdb0, libgnutls11, libgpevtype0, libmimedir0 , libsoup2.
>>
>> If you don't have root access, you will have to enable "red pill mode" in the
>> Application Manager in order to see the library packages which have to be
>> removed.
>>
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Re: GPE 2.8 released

[Graham Cobb]

On Thursday 09 August 2007 15:00, liz quinn wrote:
> I was afraid you'd say that! I have never used the command line and
> don't know how to get there. I Have not used red pill mode either. I
> can learn or ... if I do flash the latestt op sys will that do it?
> Does 2.8 look for the files in the same place.

You can certainly re-flash.  However, that will, of course, destroy all your 
data.  The backup utility is supposed to save and restore GPE data but that 
feature was broken in some versions of GPE (it is working again in the latest 
version).  So, I do not recommend re-flashing.

If you have not used the command line before I suggest your best option is to 
use the Application Installer.  See 
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/applicationmanagerredpillmode/ for 
instructions on how to enable red pill mode.  Once you have red pill mode 
enabled, click on the button to show all installed applications -- quite a 
long list.  Go through the packages I mentioned below (gpe-calendar, 
gpe-contacts, etc.), click on each one and select "uninstall".  

I may not have the right order, in which case you may not be able to uninstall 
some of them until you have uninstalled some later ones.  It is also possible 
that some of these packages are used by other applications as well: when you 
get the "Unable to uninstall" dialog box, click on "details" to see which 
other packages depend on the one you are trying to uninstall.

Once you have them all uninstalled, you should be able to install GPE.  You 
can disable red pill mode (select blue pill mode) once the uninstallation is 
complete.

> In eIther case how do you get to the command line?

See http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_easily_becomeroot/.  However, be 
aware that it is possible, using the command line, to damage your software 
configuration so that your tablet won't boot and will need to be re-flashed 
(destroying all your data).

Graham

Here is the list of packages to remove, from my earlier email:

> > gpe-calendar gpe-contacts gpe-icons gpe-timesheet gpe-todo
> > libcontactsdb0 libeventdb0 libgcrypt11 libgnutls11 libgpepimc0
> > libgpevtype0 libgpewidget1 libhandoff0 libmimedir0 libopencdk8 libsoup2
> > libsqlite0 libtododb0 libxsettings-client0
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Re: GPE 2.8 released

[liz quinn]

I was afraid you'd say that! I have never used the command line and
don't know how to get there. I Have not used red pill mode either. I
can learn or ... if I do flash the latestt op sys will that do it?
Does 2.8 look for the files in the same place.

In eIther case how do you get to the command line?

thanks
On 8/9/07, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 09 August 2007 13:39, liz quinn wrote:
> > I am a use of the GPE Suite and really enjoy it. In trying to install the
> > 2.7 update (calendar, contacts, timesheet, to-do) from Application Manager
> > I am getting"unable to update, Conflicting Application packages",  Details
> > show "Conflict with application packages: libgpevtype0"
>
> There is no need to re-flash!  Unfortunately, if you had a previous version of
> GPE installed, the Application Manager cannot handle the package renames.
>
> The easiest option is to uninstall all the previous GPE packages.  This will
> not destroy your GPE data.
>
> If you have root access then use apt-get to remove the packages.  The complete
> apt-get command would be (all on one line, of course):
>
> apt-get remove gpe-calendar gpe-contacts gpe-icons gpe-timesheet gpe-todo
> libcontactsdb0 libeventdb0 libgcrypt11 libgnutls11 libgpepimc0 libgpevtype0
> libgpewidget1 libhandoff0 libmimedir0 libopencdk8 libsoup2 libsqlite0
> libtododb0 libxsettings-client0
>
> If you do not have some of those packages installed, apt-get will complain --
> just take them out of the command.  Actually, you probably don't have to
> remove everything -- the key packages to remove before the upgrade are:
> libeventdb0, libgnutls11, libgpevtype0, libmimedir0 , libsoup2.
>
> If you don't have root access, you will have to enable "red pill mode" in the
> Application Manager in order to see the library packages which have to be
> removed.
>
> Graham
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Re: GPE 2.8 released

[Graham Cobb]

On Thursday 09 August 2007 13:39, liz quinn wrote:
> I am a use of the GPE Suite and really enjoy it. In trying to install the
> 2.7 update (calendar, contacts, timesheet, to-do) from Application Manager
> I am getting"unable to update, Conflicting Application packages",  Details
> show "Conflict with application packages: libgpevtype0"

There is no need to re-flash!  Unfortunately, if you had a previous version of 
GPE installed, the Application Manager cannot handle the package renames.

The easiest option is to uninstall all the previous GPE packages.  This will 
not destroy your GPE data.

If you have root access then use apt-get to remove the packages.  The complete 
apt-get command would be (all on one line, of course):

apt-get remove gpe-calendar gpe-contacts gpe-icons gpe-timesheet gpe-todo 
libcontactsdb0 libeventdb0 libgcrypt11 libgnutls11 libgpepimc0 libgpevtype0 
libgpewidget1 libhandoff0 libmimedir0 libopencdk8 libsoup2 libsqlite0 
libtododb0 libxsettings-client0

If you do not have some of those packages installed, apt-get will complain -- 
just take them out of the command.  Actually, you probably don't have to 
remove everything -- the key packages to remove before the upgrade are: 
libeventdb0, libgnutls11, libgpevtype0, libmimedir0 , libsoup2.

If you don't have root access, you will have to enable "red pill mode" in the 
Application Manager in order to see the library packages which have to be 
removed.

Graham
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Re: GPE 2.8 released

[liz quinn]

And, went to Maemo where the 2.8 apps are shown, go to them and click
install and get moved to a page with the [install] repo name etc, NOT an
auto install to the App Manager? What is the recommended next step? Thanks
for working out this thread - just trying to get the most current GPE.
Thanks.

On 8/9/07, liz quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One more option: should I flash the new op system, lose all apps and then
> install 2.8? Thanks.
>
> On 8/9/07, liz quinn < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I am a use of the GPE Suite and really enjoy it. In trying to install
> > the 2.7 update (calendar, contacts, timesheet, to-do) from Application
> > Manager I am getting"unable to update, Conflicting Application packages",
> > Details show "Conflict with application packages: libgpevtype0"
> >
> > Should I 1) find and remove libgpevtype0 or 2) try to skip 2.7 and
> > install 2.8.
> >
> > I haven't flashed the latest op system. I don't know if I should
> > uninstall current GPE apps. If I unistall, do I lose the data?
> >
> > Liz Quinn
> >
> > On 8/8/07, Graham Cobb < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > The first stable release of GPE for the Maemo environment is now
> > > available.
> > >
> > > GPE for Maemo includes the following applications: gpe-calendar,
> > > gpe-contacts,
> > > gpe-todo, gpe-timesheet, gpe-filemanager, starling (audio player) and
> > > gpesyncd.
> > >
> > > The most important changes since 2.7 are:
> > >
> > > * A heavily improved gpe-calendar and related libraries
> > > * Improved import/export and synchronisation support
> > > * Starling - a new audio player for GPE
> > > * Improved support for the Maemo platform (gpe-timesheet,
> > > gpe-filemanager,
> > > gpe-calendar, Starling)
> > >
> > > For more information please see: 
> > > http://www.linuxtogo.org/gpe-2-8-is-released
> > > .
> > >
> > > To download, either use the maemo.org downloads page or see
> > > http://www.cobb.uk.net/770/.  Bugs should be reported at
> > > http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/ and the GPE discussion list can be accessed
> > > from
> > > http://linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/gpe-list .
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Re: GPE 2.8 released

[liz quinn]

One more option: should I flash the new op system, lose all apps and then
install 2.8? Thanks.

On 8/9/07, liz quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am a use of the GPE Suite and really enjoy it. In trying to install the
> 2.7 update (calendar, contacts, timesheet, to-do) from Application Manager
> I am getting"unable to update, Conflicting Application packages",  Details
> show "Conflict with application packages: libgpevtype0"
>
> Should I 1) find and remove libgpevtype0 or 2) try to skip 2.7 and install
> 2.8.
>
> I haven't flashed the latest op system. I don't know if I should uninstall
> current GPE apps. If I unistall, do I lose the data?
>
> Liz Quinn
>
> On 8/8/07, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The first stable release of GPE for the Maemo environment is now
> > available.
> >
> > GPE for Maemo includes the following applications: gpe-calendar,
> > gpe-contacts,
> > gpe-todo, gpe-timesheet, gpe-filemanager, starling (audio player) and
> > gpesyncd.
> >
> > The most important changes since 2.7 are:
> >
> > * A heavily improved gpe-calendar and related libraries
> > * Improved import/export and synchronisation support
> > * Starling - a new audio player for GPE
> > * Improved support for the Maemo platform (gpe-timesheet,
> > gpe-filemanager,
> > gpe-calendar, Starling)
> >
> > For more information please see: 
> > http://www.linuxtogo.org/gpe-2-8-is-released
> > .
> >
> > To download, either use the maemo.org downloads page or see
> > http://www.cobb.uk.net/770/.  Bugs should be reported at
> > http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/ and the GPE discussion list can be accessed
> > from
> > http://linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/gpe-list.
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> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
> >
>
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Re: GPE 2.8 released

[liz quinn]

I am a use of the GPE Suite and really enjoy it. In trying to install the
2.7 update (calendar, contacts, timesheet, to-do) from Application Manager I
am getting"unable to update, Conflicting Application packages",  Details
show "Conflict with application packages: libgpevtype0"

Should I 1) find and remove libgpevtype0 or 2) try to skip 2.7 and install
2.8.

I haven't flashed the latest op system. I don't know if I should uninstall
current GPE apps. If I unistall, do I lose the data?

Liz Quinn

On 8/8/07, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The first stable release of GPE for the Maemo environment is now
> available.
>
> GPE for Maemo includes the following applications: gpe-calendar,
> gpe-contacts,
> gpe-todo, gpe-timesheet, gpe-filemanager, starling (audio player) and
> gpesyncd.
>
> The most important changes since 2.7 are:
>
> * A heavily improved gpe-calendar and related libraries
> * Improved import/export and synchronisation support
> * Starling - a new audio player for GPE
> * Improved support for the Maemo platform (gpe-timesheet,
> gpe-filemanager,
> gpe-calendar, Starling)
>
> For more information please see:
> http://www.linuxtogo.org/gpe-2-8-is-released.
>
> To download, either use the maemo.org downloads page or see
> http://www.cobb.uk.net/770/.  Bugs should be reported at
> http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/ and the GPE discussion list can be accessed
> from
> http://linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/gpe-list.
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Re: GPE 2.8 released

[Florian Boor]

Hi,

Graham Cobb schrieb:
> To download, either use the maemo.org downloads page or see 
> http://www.cobb.uk.net/770/.  Bugs should be reported at 
> http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/ and the GPE discussion list can be accessed from 
> http://linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/gpe-list.

I have one link to add:
There are updated install files that are quite useful for OS/2007 located here:
http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/index.html

Greetings

Florian

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Re: No MP3 still, but found error msg

[Simon Pickering]

> When I attempt to play any mp3's on my N800 running the latest
> OS I get
>
> [ 7884.390808] omapdsp: tadd address is ABORTADR.
> [ 7884.390899] omapdsp: task attach failed for mp3dec!
> [ 7886.147644] omapdsp: tadd address is ABORTADR.
> [ 7886.147735] omapdsp: task attach failed for mp3dec!
> [ 7888.402557] omapdsp: tadd address is ABORTADR.
> [ 7888.402618] omapdsp: task attach failed for mp3dec!
> [ 7890.338684] omapdsp: tadd address is ABORTADR.
> [ 7890.338775] omapdsp: task attach failed for mp3dec!
> [ 7890.494537] EAC mode: play disabled, rec disabled
> [ 7890.588256] EAC mode: play enabled, rec enabled
> [ 7892.154693] omapdsp: tadd address is ABORTADR.
> [ 7892.154754] omapdsp: task attach failed for mp3dec!
> [ 7894.137054] omapdsp: tadd address is ABORTADR.
> [ 7894.137145] omapdsp: task attach failed for mp3dec!
>
> I can play mpeg video/audio clips.  Just mp3's seem to be
> hated.  A fresh power cycle does not help.
>
> The other sorts of audio type things the N800 does work
> as expected.

Interesting. Can you play pcm (wav) data (or anything else that uses 
the DSP)? When you say you can play MPEG video/audio do you mean you 
can play mp2 files or videos with audio (not sure if this uses the DSP 
for the audio)?

I've looked at the dspgateway/kernel code related to this, and the 
message is produced in plat-omap/dsp/task.c, what I can't work out is 
where this value might be set. The code looks like this:

if (adr == TADD_ABORTADR) {
/* aborting tadd intentionally */
printk(KERN_INFO "omapdsp: tadd address is ABORTADR.\n");
goto fail_out;
}

The definition of TADD_ABORTADR is in dsp.h, but I can't find any code 
that sets adr to this value (I've not searched for the hex value, 
0x, just the DEFINE'd name).

The value adr is of type dsp_long_t. This is defined in 
plat-omap/dsp/dsp_common.h like so:

extern dsp_long_t dspmem_base, dspmem_size,
  daram_base, daram_size,
  saram_base, saram_size;

dsp_tadd_minor() calls dsp_tadd() where the error message is generated. 
I've no idea where dsp_tadd_minor() is called from, it doesn't appear 
to be from anywhere in the kernel source at least. You'll need to find 
this to track down the problem.

It's curious that this memory information is passed for every new task, 
unless it's task dependent, in which case you might try looking at the 
.cmd file in /lib/dsp/modules/ to see if there's something in there 
causing a problem. The other one to try is the kernel configuration 
file (in /lib/dsp/avs_kernelcfg.cmd iirc). These are just guesses based 
on the variable names though.

That probably hasn't helped much, but it might give you an idea of 
where to start looking. Anyone else have any insight?


Simon

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maemo wiki reorganization

[Quim Gil]

We are cleaning and reorganizing the community wiki at maemo.org. You
will see that there is a special focus on information for the regular
end users landing for any reason in the maemo website, and also for the
power users willing to make the most from their tablet.

http://maemo.org/community/wiki/

You can help putting in shape the wiki:

http://maemo.org/community/wiki/wikireorg/

-- 
Quim Gil - http://maemo.org

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Re: a2dp not working, any help appreciated

[Simon Pickering]

> You might also like to try installing the a2dp binaries and scripts 
> using these simplified and mostly automated instructions[1]. You can 
> probably jump straight to step 5 as it sounds like you have all the 
> pre-requisites covered. :)

Your scripts worked a treat, many thanks. It looks like when I created 
the ~/.asound directory I was root so that may have caused my issues.

> I would suggest that you uninstall your current mplayer before trying 
> to install the a2dp debs, and also delete any .mplayer configuration 
> directories that may be lying about in /home/user/

Yes, I also did this to be sure.

All works now, though I must admit that music sounds funny (random 
variation in tempo), but that's moving off topic.

Many thanks,


Simon

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