Re: libraries for running os2007 apps under os2008

2007-12-05 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:20:59 pm Austin Che wrote:
 I made a script to allow me to run OS2007 apps directly under
 OS2008 by installing the appropriate libraries.
 http://austinche.name/maemo/compat-os2007.sh

 I hand picked the compatibility libraries to install mainly
 from just testing various apps to see what they needed, so it's
 quite possible more libraries are needed.

 I've tested and successfully run several bora compiled programs
 including osso-xterm (the old, more usable version), fmradio,
 and aisleriot. There are some noticeable bugs in many apps but most
 seem usable at least and seems to me to be a good solution until
 more apps are ported. Of course, all os2008 apps should still run
 normally.

 Works for me but use at your own risk. Your deb packages and
 dependencies could be seriously screwed up.

Austin,
  
   After a recent ooops with my n800 and a fresh install (I was 
alpha testing an app with an unanticipated Easter egg.)   Once 
maemo.org and it's children are back up (seems they had some server 
maintenance at their ISP that was announced.)  I'll take it for a 
spin and see what else I can break *grin*

James
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Re: further beating on OS2008 beta

2007-12-05 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 December 2007 12:25:54 am Eero Tamminen wrote:
 ext James Sparenberg wrote:
 Press Home key and thumb the terminal you want from the window
 list.  (it would be nice if the terminal would e.g. show the
 current directory name in the window title though)
 Not very practical actually.  If the screen updates (which if say
 I'm compiling remotely it's constantly doing) then as soon as the
 home widget pops up it closes and you can't use it.  (in full
 screen mode) plus to do this also requires that you

 1.  close the keyboard
 2.  put away the stylus
 3.  change hand position and minimize the screen
 The above steps are not needed.

 4.  use home key open the list
 5.  change windows
 If you have the full screen finger keyboard open, you need
 to press Home key twice (first press closes FKBD), otherwise
 one Home key press is enough.

 6.  re-maximize
 This step is not needed either.
 
 This is what I think you don't understand.  Using the thumkeyboard in 
 Xterm is a royal problem.  It just doesn't work right, period, 
 because you can't use it and see/read the screen at the same time.

Eh..?  When you specifically invoke a full screen keyboard,
it covers the whole screen...?


 No cut and paste, and heaven help you if you are doing e-macs or 
 vi ... because... depending on the remote system it often causes 
 problems in that data previously entered gets lost due to focus 
 change.  

So your problem is actually with thumb keyboard instead of
the tabs/windows issue?  Please add a feature request about
copy/paste support and bug about latter.


- Eero

PS. There's also a hack to use N800 as a keyboard for phone.
One colleague says it beats T9... :-)
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Re: libraries for running os2007 apps under os2008

2007-12-05 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 08:35:25 am Fred Chittenden wrote:
 Seems like a waste of time since it's likely that many of the 2007
 apps are likely to be ported over to 8OS pretty soon.  IMHO,
 there's other stuff to look at and work on.  Although perhaps
 providing  buggy old version on 8os may push the process along so
 their  namesake code does not get a bad rap.  That kind of stuff
 can be hard to over come.


Yes but first ... it is his time and his choice what to do with it.  
Second aspect.  If you have run Linux for long (I am assuming you 
have btw) you know that all of the distro's run compat libs.  If 
Austin is able to create such a creature for maemo this can only help 
the people at Nokia as it gives them greater freedom to innovate with 
less fear of the problems associated with legacy.  

On the other hand  something still isn't right for me as I'm still 
getting the refusal to install due to version.  Onward and upward.  

James


  I made a script to allow me to run OS2007 apps directly under
  OS2008 by installing the appropriate libraries.
  http://austinche.name/maemo/compat-os2007.sh
 
  I hand picked the compatibility libraries to install mainly
  from just testing various apps to see what they needed, so it's
  quite possible more libraries are needed.
 
  I've tested and successfully run several bora compiled
  programs including osso-xterm (the old, more usable version),
  fmradio, and aisleriot. There are some noticeable bugs in many
  apps but most seem usable at least and seems to me to be a good
  solution until more apps are ported. Of course, all os2008 apps
  should still run normally.
 
  Works for me but use at your own risk. Your deb packages and
  dependencies could be seriously screwed up.
 
Ye
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Re: Noob Questions

2007-12-05 Thread Urivan Saaib

 My last
 question is I'm wondering if it's possible to setup DNS suffix? I don't want
 to type the long domain every time I try to go to a box on my company's
 network.

This is a generic Linu networking question and you can accomplish that by
adding your company's network domain into /etc/resolv.conf as:

search company.com

If you already have a search statement, just add the company.com to the end 
of the search path. Note that this might slow some initial host resolution.

Regards,

-Urivan A. Flores Saaib


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Noob Questions

2007-12-05 Thread Mike Rose
Hi All,

I just got my N810, and couldn't be happier with it. While everything is
pretty user friendly and obvious, I was wondering if there is a user manual
for OS2008. I just want to be sure I'm using all the shortcuts and features
it has to offer. Another question is once I open rdesktop to my windows box,
the tablet goes into full screen. How do I exit rdesktop to get back to the
N810 desktop? The only way I know how is to turn it off and back on. My last
question is I'm wondering if it's possible to setup DNS suffix? I don't want
to type the long domain every time I try to go to a box on my company's
network.

Thanks for your help!
Mike
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Re: libraries for running os2007 apps under os2008

2007-12-05 Thread Fred Chittenden
Seems like a waste of time since it's likely that many of the 2007 apps
are likely to be ported over to 8OS pretty soon.  IMHO, there's other
stuff to look at and work on.  Although perhaps providing  buggy old
version on 8os may push the process along so their  namesake code
does not get a bad rap.  That kind of stuff can be hard to over come.

 I made a script to allow me to run OS2007 apps directly under
 OS2008 by installing the appropriate libraries.
 http://austinche.name/maemo/compat-os2007.sh
 
 I hand picked the compatibility libraries to install mainly from
 just testing various apps to see what they needed, so it's quite
 possible more libraries are needed. 
 
 I've tested and successfully run several bora compiled programs
 including osso-xterm (the old, more usable version), fmradio, and
 aisleriot. There are some noticeable bugs in many apps but most
 seem usable at least and seems to me to be a good solution until
 more apps are ported. Of course, all os2008 apps should still run
 normally.
 
 Works for me but use at your own risk. Your deb packages and
 dependencies could be seriously screwed up.
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Re: New, renamed version of 770-encode video converter now available

2007-12-05 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Andrew Flegg ha escrit:

 Many of you use my script 770-encode to transcode videos for your

Hi, I sent you off list a couple of patches for mediaserv and 
tablet-encode. Since I got no feedback (but then these last 2 days my 
adsl connection doesn't last for more than 5 minutes at a time) I fear 
they ended in your spam folder.
Did you receive them?

Bye
-- 
Luca

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Re: OS2008 on n800 - Nice Job

2007-12-05 Thread Michael Wetherell
On Wednesday 28 November 2007 08:55, Eero Tamminen wrote:
 The main reason why OS2008 is faster than OS2007 is that kernel now
 supports Dynamic Voltage Frequency Scaling (DVFS).  When only CPU is
 used, the frequency can be higher than in OS2007, when also DSP is
 used, it needs to be dropped to earlier speed (which transition was a
 real pain to get fast and reliable enough).  When neither is needed,
 frequency can be dropped even lower which improves battery usage.

Seems like really good work, the tablet is transformed. Congrats to all 
involved.

Regards,
Mike
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Re: OS2008 on n800 - Nice Job

2007-12-05 Thread Frédéric Crozat

Le jeudi 29 novembre 2007 à 22:42 +0100, Frédéric Crozat a écrit :
 Le jeudi 29 novembre 2007 à 21:28 +0100, Laurent GUERBY a écrit :
  On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 23:43 +0100, Frédéric Crozat wrote:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=667
   
   Well, documentation for enabling A2DP is extremely scarce atm, even in
   this bug report.
   
   I'm not sure if I'll keep my BT headset or ask for a refund.
  
  On IRC I was told there was work done on it, I suggest
  adding a comment with your model and problem on the
  above bugzilla.
 
 Well, I've spend part of this afternoon at Mandriva office into fixing /
 enabling Audio bluetooth on Mandriva cooker and I've been successful
 into directing using ALSA output to headset (either in HSP or A2DP) or
 using gstreamer a2dp sink (from bluez-utils).
 
 Some dbus queries are needed to enable a2dp, which is why it can't work
 out of the box on IT2008.
 
 I'll do more test on n800 this week-end and report here.

I haven't had time to test the dbus queries for A2DP, yet. 

However, my ISP has just give access to its private Wifi phone network
(Freephonie), which allows to use any SIP client as a local home client.

Of course, I tested my bluetooth headset and it is almost working fine :
-when a call is ringing, you get notification in the headset and you can
take the call. Unfortunately, audio is not routed correctly. You have to
disconnect the headset (audio is routed back to n800) and reconnect the
BT headset to get audio routed correctly.
-if you take the call from n800 interface and connect the headset, audio
is routed correctly to headset
-n800 bluez doesn't seem to support the refuse call BT command or the
recall last number BT command.

So, it works and it could be improved. I'll open bug reports for the
various issues.

-- 
Frédéric Crozat 

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Disabling password on user certificate for Wifi

2007-12-05 Thread Frédéric Crozat
Hi,

as I wrote in a previous post, my ISP (Free.fr) has just allow access to
its private Wifi network dedicated to VoIP (called Freephonie.net)
through EAP-TLS, with a set of certificate and public/private key.

It works fine (you need to do some openssl magic to convert the
certificate in pkcs12 format) but IT2008 is requiring a password to
store user certificate. This is extremely frustrating since it requires
typing this password each time you connect to the private Wifi network.
And since this network is provided from a lot of DSL modem provided by
this ISP (about 500 000 modems are already enabled in France), it
doesn't allow to use always connected feature of IT2007/2008, while
moving.

Is there a way to disable the password for some user certificates ?

PS : the nice consequence of accessing this private network, which
doesn't use NAT, is a workaround to bug
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699 (which is still prevent when
not using the private network, ie when using NAT).
-- 
Frédéric Crozat 

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