Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread DZ
BTW, latest Apple Wireless compact BT keyboard works fine with N800 (it  
supports HID profile). This keyboard is very comfortable and has a long  
battery life. I am talking about this model:  
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=MB167LL/A
  
. Personally I have bought it already localized in Russian shop.

- Denis

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:20:26 +0300, Ryan Pavlik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:
 For my N800 I bought the StowAway (NOT the compact version which is
 crippled) and it works perfectly except



 a) the ESC gets intercepted by OS2007


 Very true.  Hopefully this is corrected in OS2008.  CTRL also doesn't  
 work.


 b) OS2007 requires lots of clicks to crank up BlueTooth and make it

 connect.

 Once the StowAway is paired, just turn it on and it will work.  An  
 excellent
 keyboard.

 ///Peter

 Nick.

 The easiest thing to do is when you get the keyboard, go into the
 bluetooth control panel, pair it, and choose to make it a preferred
 device.  Then, hitting any key and waiting a moment or two will
 auto-connect it from that point forward.

 Ctrl works fine for me (full-sized iGo/ThinkOutside Stowaway Bluetooth)
 - perhaps you mean Fn?  The layout on the N800 intercepts Fn and
 interprets it as a right-click, so if you want to use any Fn-whatever
 key combinations (in light blue on the keyboard), you need to set up a
 small change.  I saw the instructions either on this list or
 internettablettalk.com recently - I think they involved xmodmap, google
 shall certain find them.





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Re: SDHC 4 GB with n770

2007-12-10 Thread Karthik
On Dec 10, 2007 12:23 PM, Karthik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just to let you know that this is now available here
  http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#sdhc
 




Thanks Frantisek, This will be my Christmas holiday project.
 -karthik




  I have not tested SD cards personally but at least one person tested it
  with Sandisk 4GB micro SDHC card and it seems to work (see forum thread
  already linked). It may or may not improve also stability with some MMC
  cards so it may be worth of trying if you previously tested my older
  high speed MMC kernels without success. And now you can also get kernel
  with your preferred MMC bus frequency limit :-)
 
  Frantisek
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Re: python question

2007-12-10 Thread Luciano Miguel Wolf
Hi Zoran,

To do the update you have to remove all applications depending on 
python2.4, then python2.4-runtime itself. Just follow the instructions 
at PyMaemo webpage[1].

About package size it could be something with dependencies. For example, 
Python2.4 install some extra packages (libraries, etc). In the other 
hand, Python2.5 uses pre-installed packages. You don't miss any 
functionality. We are doing some changes in webpage contents and soon 
will be available a complete list of modules provided by PyMaemo2.5.

Another point: I recommend you to use OS2007-HackerEdition, since 
PyMaemo for OS2006 will be discontinued at OS2008's launch.

Regards,
Luciano Wolf

[1]
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/installation.html


ext Zoran Kolic wrote:
 Howdy!
 On 770 I have 3.2006.49-2. Default python version
 is 2.4. In extras repo version 2.5 could be found.
 Some apps obviously depend on 2.5. But, 2.4 is
 double in size than 2.5. What is the diffenerce
 and is it transparent to this os version to update
 to 2.5?
 I installed just python, not additional dev etc
 packages. Disproportion means I would miss libs
 in 2.5?
 Best regards
 
 Zoran
 
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Re: python question

2007-12-10 Thread Zoran Kolic
Hi Luciano!

 To do the update you have to remove all applications depending on 
 python2.4, then python2.4-runtime itself. Just follow the instructions 
 at PyMaemo webpage[1].

No maemo packages installed. Just some of my own scripts
and getmail/smtppush.

 About package size it could be something with dependencies. For example, 
 Python2.4 install some extra packages (libraries, etc). In the other 
 hand, Python2.5 uses pre-installed packages. You don't miss any 
 functionality. We are doing some changes in webpage contents and soon 
 will be available a complete list of modules provided by PyMaemo2.5.
 Another point: I recommend you to use OS2007-HackerEdition, since 
 PyMaemo for OS2006 will be discontinued at OS2008's launch.

Now I could breath again. Gonna try today.
Best regards

 Zoran

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RE: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
 Ctrl works fine for me (full-sized iGo/ThinkOutside Stowaway Bluetooth) 
 - perhaps you mean Fn?  The layout on the N800 intercepts Fn and 
 interprets it as a right-click, so if you want to use any Fn-whatever 
 key combinations (in light blue on the keyboard), you need to set up a 
 small change.  I saw the instructions either on this list or 
 internettablettalk.com recently - I think they involved xmodmap, google 
 shall certain find them.

Yes, Ryan, you're correct - I meant Fn.  I'll search for the required
changes! Thanks!

Nick.
 


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what exactly is the GPS management framework for N810?

2007-12-10 Thread Joshua Layne
I am continuing to have problems with the gps functionality on my N810. 
Please note the use of functionality here - from everything I can tell,
the gps hardware works fine - this looks to be a firmware/driver bug or a
problem somewhere else in the management stack of the gps 'subsystem'

The problem is this:
When newly booted, the GPS works basically fine - seems to take a little
long to get a fix, but workable.  If I then shut the GPS off (using the
panel applet, or by closing the map application.  When I try to start the
GPS back up, I get nothing.  A `cat /dev/pgps` gives absolutely nothing, so
there is a problem somewhere in the stack, not with getting a fix - when
the gps is activated and gpsd is running, /dev/pgps should ALWAYS be
emitting some form of data.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

`killall -HUP gpsdriver`
and
`killall -HUP gpsd`

do not solve the problem.  A reboot does (although sometimes the reboot
doesn't seem to entirely 'take' and has to be repeated)

My understanding of the gps stack (from forums and `ps -aef|grep gps` is:
---
SirfIII gps hardware

gpsd 1.0-23 (osso branded) (/usr/sbin/gpsd -n -N -F /tmp/.gpsd_ctrl_sock
/dev/pgp) -- I believe it is really /dev/pgps and is being truncated for
some reason in ps

gpsdriver (?proprietary? - no help available for runtime parametes) --
(/usr/sbin/gpsdriver)

[gpsd] -- ?what is this?  I have never seen anything like this with gpsd on
other systems

/usr/libexec/navicore-gpsd-helper (bundled 3rd party binary app that kick
starts the gps unit) OR the control panel applet.
---

How can I trace what is going when the gps subsystem fails?  Do I actually
have a bad unit?  I'm past the return from where I bought it so this would
be a warranty issue, but I really think it is a bug somewhere in the
software stack, not a problem in the hardware.

I would appreciate any pointers on troubleshooting this - when the GPS
works, it is great, but it is _extremely_ frustrating to have these kind of
issues on a $450 device.

Also, if there is (or can be made) any documentation available for how to
programmatically interface to the gps, that would be very helpful.  I did
not buy this unit for the built in mapping program and have no intention of
using it - I want to be able to control the gps (including power on and
power off) from the OS (and not using GUI applets or binary-only 3rd party
apps).

Thanks in advance,
josh

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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread Gary
DZ wrote:
 BTW, latest Apple Wireless compact BT keyboard works fine with N800 (it  
 supports HID profile). This keyboard is very comfortable and has a long  
 battery life.

I'll second this. I have Nokia's SU-8W because it fits in my camera 
(N800) bag for travel but the Apple one is much better for serious 
production work. And though it doesn't fold up, it's solidly built. When 
I first tried one that a friend bought for his MacBook, he took it out 
of his book bag, held it up in front of me, and gave it a strong flex. I 
cringed and closed my eyes but he just laughed and powered it on.

-Gary
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:02:11AM -0800, Gary wrote:
 DZ wrote:
  BTW, latest Apple Wireless compact BT keyboard works fine with N800 (it  
  supports HID profile). This keyboard is very comfortable and has a long  
  battery life.
 
 I'll second this. I have Nokia's SU-8W because it fits in my camera 
 (N800) bag for travel but the Apple one is much better for serious 
 production work. And though it doesn't fold up, it's solidly built. When 
 I first tried one that a friend bought for his MacBook, he took it out 
 of his book bag, held it up in front of me, and gave it a strong flex. I 
 cringed and closed my eyes but he just laughed and powered it on.

I third this.  It's the smallest keyboard I've seen that has full-size
keys in a sane layout.  I miss some of the keys a bit, e.g. PgUp/PgDn,
and the Fn-Up/Down alternative doesn't work on a N800.

I also admit that I cannot figure out how to turn it off.  The power
button always turns it on.  When I want to use the virtual keyboard, I
have to disconnect the Apple one from the Nokia's Bluetooth statusbar
applet.

FWIW connecting the two back together is unexpecedly easy: just start
typing and the keyboard will reconnect *without losing any of the
keystrokes*.  Brilliant.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Klein
Marius Gedminas wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:02:11AM -0800, Gary wrote:
   
 DZ wrote:
 
 BTW, latest Apple Wireless compact BT keyboard works fine with N800 (it  
 supports HID profile). This keyboard is very comfortable and has a long  
 battery life.
   
 I'll second this. I have Nokia's SU-8W because it fits in my camera 
 (N800) bag for travel but the Apple one is much better for serious 
 production work. And though it doesn't fold up, it's solidly built. When 
 I first tried one that a friend bought for his MacBook, he took it out 
 of his book bag, held it up in front of me, and gave it a strong flex. I 
 cringed and closed my eyes but he just laughed and powered it on.
 

 I third this.  It's the smallest keyboard I've seen that has full-size
 keys in a sane layout.  I miss some of the keys a bit, e.g. PgUp/PgDn,
 and the Fn-Up/Down alternative doesn't work on a N800.

 I also admit that I cannot figure out how to turn it off.  The power
 button always turns it on.  When I want to use the virtual keyboard, I
 have to disconnect the Apple one from the Nokia's Bluetooth statusbar
 applet.

 FWIW connecting the two back together is unexpecedly easy: just start
 typing and the keyboard will reconnect *without losing any of the
 keystrokes*.  Brilliant.

 Marius Gedminas
   
The apple wireless keyboard...while A+ in the looks department is more 
like a B- when it comes to actual work. The keys are NOT full-sized and 
don't have appropriate amount of travel. Larger keys would've made 
footprint larger though.

I can tough type  120wpm and the Apple keyboard brings me down to like 
30wpm...it isn't easy to type on when on your lap as it's so narrow. The 
HappyHacking keyboard is better example of small keyboard (although 
wired) with full-size keys and travel.


mike
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread david . hagood
 DZ wrote:

 I'll second this. I have Nokia's SU-8W because it fits in my camera

Does anybody know how to generate a function key from the SU-8W?
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Re: OS2008 on N800: probable bugs

2007-12-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 07 December 2007 01:17:12 am Neil MacLeod wrote:
 Laurent GUERBY wrote:
  - I've had three times after selecting lock touch screen in
  keys where after pressing power and seeing now press HOME the
  HOME button was inactive and I had to remove the battery or
  shutdown through remote ssh. This is with unmodified
  systemui.xml.
 
  I'll open bugzilla if I'm not alone in seeing this.

 You're not alone, check bug 2311[1] - N800 running OS2008 forgets
 it has any hardware buttons. Rather than pop the battery and
 reboot, a workaround which works for some people is to pop out the
 camera which sometimes reactivates the disabled buttons.

 1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2311


Why am I suddenly reminded of a Rat in a Skinner box back in my 
College days.  He had 'learned' that when his lever stopped giving 
food to pee on it, so it would start giving him food again.   

(just found this humorous is all, sorry.)

James
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Re: Noob Questions

2007-12-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 07 December 2007 07:45:52 am Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Urivan Saaib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  question is I'm wondering if it's possible to setup DNS suffix?
  I don't want to type the long domain every time I try to go to a
  box on my company's network.

 Yes, this is a missing feature in N800/N810. The problem is the
 usage of dnsmasq, we can't easily add support for search domains. I
 don't remember the details anymore, but I think the only way solve
 is to change dnsmasq to something else.

snip

Just so I can understand more clearly what you are saying, is the 
problem you are talking about the way dnsmasq is used or the fact 
that dnsmasq is used at all?

James

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Re: Noob Questions

2007-12-10 Thread Steve Yelvington
dnsmasq has all grown up since last time I looked at the manpage, but 
won't this do what you're seeking?


*S, --local, 
--server=[/[domain]/[domain/]][ipaddr[#port][@source[#port]]]*

   Specify IP address of upstream servers directly. Setting this flag
   does not suppress reading of /etc/resolv.conf, use -R to do that. If
   one or more optional domains are given, that server is used only for
   those domains and they are queried only using the specified server.
   This is intended for private nameservers: if you have a nameserver
   on your network which deals with names of the form
   xxx.internal.thekelleys.org.uk at 192.168.1.1 then giving the flag
   *-S /internal.thekelleys.org.uk/192.168.1.1 * will send all queries
   for internal machines to that nameserver, everything else will go to
   the servers in /etc/resolv.conf. An empty domain specification, *//
   * has the special meaning of unqualified names only ie names
   without any dots in them. A non-standard port may be specified as
   part of the IP address using a # character. More than one -S flag is
   allowed, with repeated domain or ipaddr parts as required.

   Also permitted is a -S flag which gives a domain but no IP address;
   this tells dnsmasq that a domain is local and it may answer queries
   from /etc/hosts or DHCP but should never forward queries on that
   domain to any upstream servers. *local* is a synonym for *server* to
   make configuration files clearer in this case.

   The optional second IP address after the @ character tells dnsmasq
   how to set the source address of the queries to this nameserver. It
   should be an address belonging to the machine on which dnsmasq is
   running otherwise this server line will be logged and then ignored.
   The query-port flag is ignored for any servers which have a source
   address specified but the port may be specified directly as part of
   the source address.



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Re: DVD to tablet

2007-12-10 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi, I'm using Debian, but never played on video encoding... There's lots of
tools in Debian to convert videos. But the question is... what is the best
solution for our 770 tablets? I mean the simplest and lightest (I don't mind
about video quality, but disk space...) So... what kind of format should I
choose as the final form for my DVD to be seen on my 770?

Salut,
Sebas.


2007/12/9, Paul Dundas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 DrFredC.com wrote:
  For Windows users interested in taking their DVDs with them on their
  tablets via a single pass encoding...  (Note : other options may be
  available for other OSs).
 
  * Get and install Handbrake  DVD43 (Free downloads -- search google for
  links)
 ...
 
  Note -- Handbrake (v 0.9.1) doesn't appear to properly handle encoding
  DVD TV episodes.  It only encodes the first show on the DVD.  A work
  around may be to queing individual files in the video_ts folder with
  Handbrake.
 

 Handbrake works well for me (not tried DVD43 - I used dvd decryptor).

 Manually selecting the correct title and chapters should allow you
 to get at other episodes on a DVD which has more than one.
 And for foreign language stuff, Handbrake lets you bake in the
 appropriate subtitles.

 Very handy for watching my DVDs while away from home.

 --
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Flynn
Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:
 For my N800 I bought the StowAway (NOT the compact version which is 
 crippled) and it works perfectly except
 
 a) the ESC gets intercepted by OS2007
 
 Very true.  Hopefully this is corrected in OS2008.  CTRL also doesn't work.

Hmmm. I haven't had that problem.

 b) OS2007 requires lots of clicks to crank up BlueTooth and make it
 connect.
 
 Once the StowAway is paired, just turn it on and it will work.  An excellent
 keyboard.

Not on mine. Just sits there.

///Peter
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Re: DVD to tablet

2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Dec 10, 2007 9:22 PM, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, I'm using Debian, but never played on video encoding... There's lots of
 tools in Debian to convert videos. But the question is... what is the best
 solution for our 770 tablets? I mean the simplest and lightest (I don't mind
 about video quality, but disk space...) So... what kind of format should I
 choose as the final form for my DVD to be seen on my 770?

For Linux users, may I (not so) humbly suggest my own tablet-encode:

htttp://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html

You can choose the trade-off between disk size  quality through a
series of presets. The smallest one takes up around 1MB a minute.

HTH,

Andrew

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Re: DVD to tablet

2007-12-10 Thread sebastian maemo
Pretty interesting... Thank you very much.

Salut,
Sebas.

2007/12/10, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Dec 10, 2007 9:22 PM, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hi, I'm using Debian, but never played on video encoding... There's lots
 of
  tools in Debian to convert videos. But the question is... what is the
 best
  solution for our 770 tablets? I mean the simplest and lightest (I don't
 mind
  about video quality, but disk space...) So... what kind of format should
 I
  choose as the final form for my DVD to be seen on my 770?

 For Linux users, may I (not so) humbly suggest my own tablet-encode:

 htttp://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html

 You can choose the trade-off between disk size  quality through a
 series of presets. The smallest one takes up around 1MB a minute.

 HTH,

 Andrew

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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Flynn
Ryan Pavlik wrote:
 The easiest thing to do is when you get the keyboard, go into the 
 bluetooth control panel, pair it, and choose to make it a preferred 
 device.  

I don't have an option for that. There's an option for Trusted Device 
which is set OK.

 Then, hitting any key and waiting a moment or two will 
 auto-connect it from that point forward.

Doesn't do that on mine. You have to open

Tools
Control Panel
Bluetooth (two taps)
Bluetooth On (check)
Visible (check)
Devices (tap)
Think Outside Keyboard (select)
Edit (tap)
Connect (tap)
OK
Close
OK
Close Control Panel

14 taps to do the job.

Methinks the designers were having a bad hair day when they did this.
The BT icon should be permanently up in the toolbar, and turning BT on
should auto enable all trusted devices in range by default.

 Ctrl works fine for me (full-sized iGo/ThinkOutside Stowaway Bluetooth) 
 - perhaps you mean Fn?  The layout on the N800 intercepts Fn and 
 interprets it as a right-click, so if you want to use any Fn-whatever 
 key combinations (in light blue on the keyboard), you need to set up a 
 small change.  I saw the instructions either on this list or 
 internettablettalk.com recently - I think they involved xmodmap, google 
 shall certain find them.

I seem to remember seeing that, but assumed it wasn't meaningful, as I 
don't have xmodmap on my N800.

///Peter
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:36:08PM +, Peter Flynn wrote:
:Ryan Pavlik wrote:
: The easiest thing to do is when you get the keyboard, go into the 
: bluetooth control panel, pair it, and choose to make it a preferred 
: device.  
:
:I don't have an option for that. There's an option for Trusted Device 
:which is set OK.

this unfortunately doesn't help you much but minne (ThinkOutSide
stowaway), just connects.  Well after the initial trust dance, which
you seem to have done.  You're not in offline mode are you?

My BlueTooth  icon is always there unless I'm in off line mode adn
does auto connect to any trusted device in range (my keyboard or GPS).

: Ctrl works fine for me (full-sized iGo/ThinkOutside Stowaway Bluetooth) 
: - perhaps you mean Fn?  The layout on the N800 intercepts Fn and 
: interprets it as a right-click, so if you want to use any Fn-whatever 
: key combinations (in light blue on the keyboard), you need to set up a 
: small change.  I saw the instructions either on this list or 
: internettablettalk.com recently - I think they involved xmodmap, google 
: shall certain find them.
:
:I seem to remember seeing that, but assumed it wasn't meaningful, as I 
:don't have xmodmap on my N800.

Again without any changes both Fn keys worked for me.  This under
OS2007 and OS2008.

-Jon
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SU-8W kbd question

2007-12-10 Thread Laurent GUERBY
Hi,

I have a qwerty SU-8W Nokia bluetooth keyboard which I pair with my
N800/OS2008 with US keyboard layout. I've been able to generate pretty
much every accented letter but eagrave; any idea on how to generate it?

eacute; is done by pressing the ' (near enter) then e
(or Alt-gr e) but when the backtick (near altgr) is pressed it generates
immediately a backtick and so cannot be used to accent letters
and I couldn't find an Alt-gr combo to generate eagrave;

Any help welcomed.

Laurent

N800+SU-8W (vga res) picture:

http://guerby.org/images/su8w.png

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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread Ryan Pavlik
Peter Flynn wrote:
 Ryan Pavlik wrote:
   
 The easiest thing to do is when you get the keyboard, go into the 
 bluetooth control panel, pair it, and choose to make it a preferred 
 device.  
 

 I don't have an option for that. There's an option for Trusted Device 
 which is set OK.
   
That's the one I meant.
   
 Then, hitting any key and waiting a moment or two will 
 auto-connect it from that point forward.
 

 Doesn't do that on mine. You have to open

 Tools
 Control Panel
 Bluetooth (two taps)
 Bluetooth On (check)
 Visible (check)
 Devices (tap)
 Think Outside Keyboard (select)
 Edit (tap)
 Connect (tap)
 OK
 Close
 OK
 Close Control Panel

 14 taps to do the job.

 Methinks the designers were having a bad hair day when they did this.
 The BT icon should be permanently up in the toolbar, and turning BT on
 should auto enable all trusted devices in range by default.
   
Except for the Visible checkbox (which is _not_ necessary - that's if 
you want the N800 to show up as a device on other peoples' 
Bluetooth-capable devices), what you described is exactly what I have, 
except I don't need to do that every time.  I'd remove the device from 
the list on the N800, remove the battery from the keyboard (so it 
forgets its pairings), then put the battery back in.  Now, push and hold 
the little white button on the keyboard until the light blinks.  You 
should be able to add the device in the bluetooth control panel 
devices screen - accept the PIN the Nokia gives you (that is, click OK 
on that screen after making sure trusted is checked), type the PIN on 
the keyboard while it is waiting and press enter on the keyboard.  It 
should fiddle about for a few seconds, then your bluetooth icon should 
turn blue and you should be good to go.  From then on, just don't turn 
off Bluetooth on the N800 - simply press any key on the keyboard to 
re-connect it.  (Don't press the little reset white switch thing!)  If 
you do turn off bluetooth on the N800, just turn it back on, then back 
out of the dialogs and hit a key on the keyboard, and it will work.

It's really that simple - it sounds like perhaps the keyboard never 
initially got paired right or something.  If I ever have trouble with 
mine (which is rare, but happens sometimes when the batteries are almost 
dead) I just follow these steps and it works again.
   
 Ctrl works fine for me (full-sized iGo/ThinkOutside Stowaway Bluetooth) 
 - perhaps you mean Fn?  The layout on the N800 intercepts Fn and 
 interprets it as a right-click, so if you want to use any Fn-whatever 
 key combinations (in light blue on the keyboard), you need to set up a 
 small change.  I saw the instructions either on this list or 
 internettablettalk.com recently - I think they involved xmodmap, google 
 shall certain find them.
 

 I seem to remember seeing that, but assumed it wasn't meaningful, as I 
 don't have xmodmap on my N800.

 ///Peter
   
Presumably that is available online, maemo.org/downloads or similar, or 
can be cross-compiled without modification in scratchbox.

Hope this helps!

Ryan

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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-10 Thread Norman Ramsey
  Anyone got a good USB keyboard for Maemo I have seen some youtube
  videos on making the Maemo more like a laptop. However it seems they
  use some converter to get it to work. I also read in the past that the
  PSP keyboard was a solution but couldn't get a confirmation on this.
  Finally the igo seemed to work as a bluetooth keyboard
  (http://www.igo.com/product.asp?sku=2524884) under TabletBlog.com
  (http://tabletblog.com/search?q=keyboard). So in the end I am still
  looking for more alternatives.

I'm quite happy with the small, 'crippled' igo stowaway; when I'm
doing real work I use a Kinesis countered and ssh into my N800.

But I am having one stupid problem with the keyboard, the key
with ' and  on it seems to act like some sort of stupid
accent-composition key.  Unfortunately there's no xev on the N800 so I
can't find out what events it thinks it's getting or what to say to
xmodmap (which is also not there).


Norman
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This may account for lack of ogg support by Nokia

2007-12-10 Thread james
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071210-nokia-wants-w3c-to-remove-out-ogg-from-upcoming-html5-standard.html

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