Re: what exactly is the GPS management framework for N810?

2007-12-11 Thread Jukka Rissanen
On Dec 12, 2007 12:20 AM, Joshua Layne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original message -
> > How can I trace what is going when the gps subsystem fails? Do I actually
> > have a bad unit? I'm past the return from where I bought it so this would
> > be a warranty issue, but I really think it is a bug somewhere in the
> > software stack, not a problem in the hardware.

There are bug fixes to GPS subsystem in OS2008 final release that is
coming soon, probably the bugs you are seeing are already fixed there.


> I spoke prematurely here.  I apologize.  I just found today the information 
> here:
> http://maemo.org/development/documentation/apis/4-x/
>
> and specifically, this:
> http://maemo.org/api_refs/4.0/gpsmgr/index.html
>
> which is exactly what I was looking for.

You might also want to look http://gps-saver.garage.maemo.org/
sources, it shows how to use the gpsbt and gpsmgr APIs.


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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:

I really hate our mail servers and their From line mangling...

> If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in 
> the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)

Excellent, I will certainly try it.

>   - IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE ("push-email")

IMAP-IDLE is very nice. What kind of traffic pattern would you expect
with the IDLE mode when there is no new email? For example, is there
any polling and if so, what's the interval?

I'm just thinking about the WLAN power consumption here.

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Re: what exactly is the GPS management framework for N810?

2007-12-11 Thread Joshua Layne

- Original message -
> I am continuing to have problems with the gps functionality on my N810.
> Please note the use of "functionality" here - from everything I can tell,
> the gps hardware works fine - this looks to be a firmware/driver bug or a
> problem somewhere else in the management stack of the gps 'subsystem'
>
> The problem is this:
> When newly booted, the GPS works basically fine - seems to take a little
> long to get a fix, but workable.  If I then shut the GPS off (using the
> panel applet, or by closing the map application.  When I try to start the
> GPS back up, I get nothing.  A `cat /dev/pgps` gives absolutely nothing, so
> there is a problem somewhere in the stack, not with getting a fix - when
> the gps is activated and gpsd is running, /dev/pgps should ALWAYS be
> emitting some form of data.  Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> `killall -HUP gpsdriver`
> and
> `killall -HUP gpsd`
>
> do not solve the problem.  A reboot does (although sometimes the reboot
> doesn't seem to entirely 'take' and has to be repeated)
>
> My understanding of the gps stack (from forums and `ps -aef|grep gps` is:
> ---
> SirfIII gps hardware
>
> gpsd 1.0-23 (osso branded) (/usr/sbin/gpsd -n -N -F /tmp/.gpsd_ctrl_sock
> /dev/pgp) -- I believe it is really "/dev/pgps" and is being truncated for
> some reason in ps
>
> gpsdriver (?proprietary? - no help available for runtime parametes) --
> (/usr/sbin/gpsdriver)
>
> [gpsd] -- ?what is this?  I have never seen anything like this with gpsd on
> other systems
>
> /usr/libexec/navicore-gpsd-helper (bundled 3rd party binary app that kick
> starts the gps unit) OR the control panel applet.
> ---
>
> How can I trace what is going when the gps subsystem fails?  Do I actually
> have a bad unit?  I'm past the return from where I bought it so this would
> be a warranty issue, but I really think it is a bug somewhere in the
> software stack, not a problem in the hardware.
>
> I would appreciate any pointers on troubleshooting this - when the GPS
> works, it is great, but it is _extremely_ frustrating to have these kind of
> issues on a $450 device.

disabling the gps (using the checkbox in the applet control) and re-enqabling 
it seems to kick it back to working when it fails.

I still think something is wrong either at the firmware or driver level and 
would be interested in helping troubleshoot it further, but I need some help on 
this.  I'll submit a bugreport tomorrow, as I think I finally have enough info 
to make it useful.

>
> Also, if there is (or can be made) any documentation available for how to
> programmatically interface to the gps, that would be very helpful.  I did
> not buy this unit for the built in mapping program and have no intention of
> using it - I want to be able to control the gps (including power on and
> power off) from the OS (and not using GUI applets or binary-only 3rd party
> apps).

I spoke prematurely here.  I apologize.  I just found today the information 
here:
http://maemo.org/development/documentation/apis/4-x/

and specifically, this:
http://maemo.org/api_refs/4.0/gpsmgr/index.html

which is exactly what I was looking for.
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Fw: Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Joshua Layne
apologies - I really thought I had replied all, this probably breaks threading 
for this message...

- Original message -
From: Joshua Layne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:  Tue Dec 11 2007 08:39:23 PM GMT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

>
> - Original message -
> > Dear Maemo-Users,
> >
> > If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in
> > the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)
> >
> > [ Scroll down for the install file (but please read this mail
> > first!). ]
> >
> > We've been working on "Modest" for a while now, with great
> > contributions from Igalia (http://www.igalia.com/news/modest),
> > Philip Van Hoof (Tinymail), Openismus and others. And while
> > it's not finished or bugfree yet, you might want to give
> > it a try. We'll be blogging on Planet Maemo with news and
> > updates.
> >
> > Some highlights:
> >     - the basics: POP/IMAP/SMTP (normal/secure);
> >     - IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE ("push-email")
> >     - easy setup of new accounts
> >     - send and receive of rich text-emails
> >     - managing mail with your fingers
> >     - 100% open-source with a BSD-like license
> >    
>
> It works great in general, 'beta' maybe, but better than the included client.
>
> A few nits:
> 1) respect the 'subscribed folders' aspect of IMAP -- I have a lot of folders,
> but they aren't all active so I don't clutter my clients. 2) have 'reply-all' 
> as
> one of the default bar icons in addition to the reply - I would rather not 
> have
> to use the menu when replying to this list (for example). 3) just replace the
> included client already!!! :)
>
> Question - does it tie into the system notifications in the same way as the
> included app?
>
> Thanks much (sent using modest mail from my N810
> josh
>
> > Some important notes:
> >     - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program
> >     - it does have the same name/icon in the menus, so don't
> >         get confused!
> >     - modest uses English, regardless of your settings
> >     - modest works great with Gmail; don't forget to use
> >         '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as your username, not just 'user'.
> >
> > You can find an install file here:
> > http://modest.garage.maemo.org/repos/modest-chinook.install
> >
> > This is for OS2008 (Chinook), and will *not* work on OS2007.
> > It's bèta release, not for production use, so use at your own
> > risk!
> >
> > If you do, please let us know what you think of modest. Please
> > refer  to our webpage to see the various communication
> > channels that are available -- thanks.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > The Modest Team.
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> > maemo-users@maemo.org
> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>


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Re: Noob Questions

2007-12-11 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext Steve Yelvington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> dnsmasq has all grown up since last time I looked at the manpage, but
> won't this do what you're seeking?
>
> *S, --local,
> --server=[/[]/[domain/]][[#][@[#]]]*
>Specify IP address of upstream servers directly. Setting this flag
>does not suppress reading of /etc/resolv.conf, use -R to do that. If
>one or more optional domains are given, that server is used only for
>those domains and they are queried only using the specified server.
>This is intended for private nameservers: if you have a nameserver
>on your network which deals with names of the form
>xxx.internal.thekelleys.org.uk at 192.168.1.1 then giving the flag
>*-S /internal.thekelleys.org.uk/192.168.1.1 * will send all queries
>for internal machines to that nameserver, everything else will go to
>the servers in /etc/resolv.conf.

That's not it (if I understood it correctly). What we are after is
domain search functionality, that is we if a DNS query fails the DNS
resolver would need to to expand the query with the domain. Here's a
simplified example where domain search contains 'example.com':

-> DNS query server1.
<- no answer
-> DNS query server1.example.com1.
<- server1.example.com1 is at 123.122.121.120

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Re: Noob Questions

2007-12-11 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext James Sparenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Yes, this is a missing feature in N800/N810. The problem is the
>> usage of dnsmasq, we can't easily add support for search domains. I
>> don't remember the details anymore, but I think the only way solve
>> is to change dnsmasq to something else.
>>
>>
>
> Just so I can understand more clearly what you are saying, is the 
> problem you are talking about the way dnsmasq is used or the fact 
> that dnsmasq is used at all?

I mean the latter (used at all).

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Re: Disabling password on user certificate for Wifi

2007-12-11 Thread Kalle Valo
[please try to CC me for a faster reply]

ext Frédéric Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Yes, the automatic WLAN connection does not work with EAP connections.
>> That's a feature which should be changed.
>
> Argg :(

Yes, I share the pain :/

> I've just filled https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2503 for this issue

Thanks.

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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Austin Che

> I'd like to kill / not use the built in mail app as well.  I thought I
> recall a post from Quim here that said the mail app will be
> replaceable in the same way that the microb browser was released
> within OS2007.

Try:
apt-get remove osso-email-engine osso-email-ui osso-email-*l10n*
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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Norman Ramsey
 > If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in 
 > the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)

I'm not ready for the bleeding edge of Chinook, but would love to try
modest using OS2007 (bora).  I've been meaning to compile it for the
last week or two but have had other distractions.  Now suddenly it is
no longer promised to work on OS2007!  O pain! 

Since the beta release, has anyone tried to compile modest for OS2007?


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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Jonathan Greene
You don't have to use OSX Mail.app... I only open it on rare occasion
to archive from Gmail.  I can do mailto with the google notifier (menu
bar).

I'd like to kill / not use the built in mail app as well.  I thought I
recall a post from Quim here that said the mail app will be
replaceable in the same way that the microb browser was released
within OS2007.



On Dec 11, 2007 10:11 PM, Steve Yelvington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >> - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program
>
> I would very much like to ditch the official email program in every
> possible way. Can it be uninstalled? I'm willing to edit files in order
> to do so.
>
> One of my biggest complaints against OSX is the inability to rid one's
> self of the truly awful standard Apple email program. Nokia/Maemo should
> not make the same mistake.
>
>
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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Steve Yelvington
 >> - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program

I would very much like to ditch the official email program in every 
possible way. Can it be uninstalled? I'm willing to edit files in order 
to do so.

One of my biggest complaints against OSX is the inability to rid one's 
self of the truly awful standard Apple email program. Nokia/Maemo should 
not make the same mistake.


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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 04:48:21 pm James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 03:26:50 pm Jose Antonio Vacas Martinez
>
> wrote:
> > Grande
> >
> > On Dec 11, 2007 11:24 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > > I really love it!
> > > So fast even on gprs!
> > >
> > > The way mail reading was meant to be.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for this gem. It deserves a place in the next os
> > > release.
> > >
> > > - Original message -
> > >
> > > > Dear Maemo-Users,
> > > >
> > > > If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in
> > > > the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)
> > > >
> > > > [ Scroll down for the install file (but please read this mail
> > > > first!). ]
> > > >
> > > > We've been working on "Modest" for a while now, with great
> > > > contributions from Igalia
> > > > (http://www.igalia.com/news/modest), Philip Van Hoof
> > > > (Tinymail), Openismus and others. And while it's not finished
> > > > or bugfree yet, you might want to give it a try. We'll be
> > > > blogging on Planet Maemo with news and updates.
> > > >
> > > > Some highlights:
> > > > - the basics: POP/IMAP/SMTP (normal/secure);
> > > > - IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE ("push-email")
> > > > - easy setup of new accounts
> > > > - send and receive of rich text-emails
> > > > - managing mail with your fingers
> > > > - 100% open-source with a BSD-like license
> > > >
> > > > Some important notes:
> > > > - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program
> > > > - it does have the same name/icon in the menus, so don't
> > > > get confused!
> > > > - modest uses English, regardless of your settings
> > > > - modest works great with Gmail; don't forget to use
> > > > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as your username, not just 'user'.
> > > >
> > > > You can find an install file here:
> > > > http://modest.garage.maemo.org/repos/modest-chinook.install
> > > >
> > > > This is for OS2008 (Chinook), and will *not* work on OS2007.
> > > > It's bèta release, not for production use, so use at your own
> > > > risk!
> > > >
> > > > If you do, please let us know what you think of modest.
> > > > Please refer to our webpage to see the various communication
> > > > channels that are available -- thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > > The Modest Team.
> > > > ___
>
> Looks great... tried it out with IMAP and SSL connectiing to an
> exchange server.
>
> not fun
>
> Seems that MS has the deleted pile ... the really deleted pile the
> "I know you said to delete it but I'm keeping it anyway pile" and
> the "Just in case you lied the 1st 3 times" pile.  (Ok the last one
> I haven't found yet.)
>
> Seems  that modest mail is trying now to download every mail I've
> received in the last 6 months or so, including all  of my
> previously discarded junk etc.  All 29,938 mails.   Not cool.
>
> Any idea how I can get it to stop doing this without pissing off
> the win-admin and shooting the exchange server?  ;)
>
> On the up side.  everything else works like a charm.. Beta's
> should always be this smooth.
>
> James
>

Ok Jonathan was kind enough to point out where the setting was to set 
a limit on the number of e-mails it will grab.  This is progress.  

James
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Mono

2007-12-11 Thread Phillip Neumann
Hello all!..

I was wondering is there is avaible somewhere a mono instalation for
OS2008.

good luck!
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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Jonathan Greene
does your exchange server have remote imap activated or I have missed native 
exchange support?

in account settings you can choose the number of messages and k size limits as 
well.


- Original message -
 ___

Looks great... tried it out with IMAP and SSL connectiing to an
exchange server. 

not fun

Seems that MS has the deleted pile ... the really deleted pile the "I
know you said to delete it but I'm keeping it anyway pile" and
the "Just in case you lied the 1st 3 times" pile.  (Ok the last one I
haven't found yet.)

Seems  that modest mail is trying now to download every mail I've
received in the last 6 months or so, including all  of my previously
discarded junk etc.  All 29,938 mails.  Not cool. 

Any idea how I can get it to stop doing this without pissing off the
win-admin and shooting the exchange server?  ;)

On the up side.  everything else works like a charm.. Beta's
should always be this smooth.

James



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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 03:26:50 pm Jose Antonio Vacas Martinez 
wrote:
> Grande
>
> On Dec 11, 2007 11:24 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > I really love it!
> > So fast even on gprs!
> >
> > The way mail reading was meant to be.
> >
> > Thanks a lot for this gem. It deserves a place in the next os
> > release.
> >
> > - Original message -
> >
> > > Dear Maemo-Users,
> > >
> > > If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in
> > > the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)
> > >
> > > [ Scroll down for the install file (but please read this mail
> > > first!). ]
> > >
> > > We've been working on "Modest" for a while now, with great
> > > contributions from Igalia (http://www.igalia.com/news/modest),
> > > Philip Van Hoof (Tinymail), Openismus and others. And while
> > > it's not finished or bugfree yet, you might want to give
> > > it a try. We'll be blogging on Planet Maemo with news and
> > > updates.
> > >
> > > Some highlights:
> > > - the basics: POP/IMAP/SMTP (normal/secure);
> > > - IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE ("push-email")
> > > - easy setup of new accounts
> > > - send and receive of rich text-emails
> > > - managing mail with your fingers
> > > - 100% open-source with a BSD-like license
> > >
> > > Some important notes:
> > > - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program
> > > - it does have the same name/icon in the menus, so don't
> > > get confused!
> > > - modest uses English, regardless of your settings
> > > - modest works great with Gmail; don't forget to use
> > > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as your username, not just 'user'.
> > >
> > > You can find an install file here:
> > > http://modest.garage.maemo.org/repos/modest-chinook.install
> > >
> > > This is for OS2008 (Chinook), and will *not* work on OS2007.
> > > It's bèta release, not for production use, so use at your own
> > > risk!
> > >
> > > If you do, please let us know what you think of modest. Please
> > > refer to our webpage to see the various communication
> > > channels that are available -- thanks.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > The Modest Team.
> > > ___

Looks great... tried it out with IMAP and SSL connectiing to an 
exchange server.  

not fun

Seems that MS has the deleted pile ... the really deleted pile the "I 
know you said to delete it but I'm keeping it anyway pile" and 
the "Just in case you lied the 1st 3 times" pile.  (Ok the last one I 
haven't found yet.) 

Seems  that modest mail is trying now to download every mail I've 
received in the last 6 months or so, including all  of my previously 
discarded junk etc.  All 29,938 mails.   Not cool.  

Any idea how I can get it to stop doing this without pissing off the 
win-admin and shooting the exchange server?  ;)

On the up side.  everything else works like a charm.. Beta's 
should always be this smooth.

James



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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-11 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 02:02:08 pm Peter Flynn wrote:
> Ryan Pavlik wrote:
> > Except for the "Visible" checkbox (which is _not_ necessary -
> > that's if you want the N800 to show up as a device on other
> > peoples' Bluetooth-capable devices), what you described is
> > exactly what I have, except I don't need to do that every time. 
> > I'd remove the device from the list on the N800, remove the
> > battery from the keyboard (so it forgets its pairings), then put
> > the battery back in.  Now, push and hold the little white button
> > on the keyboard until the light blinks.  You should be able to
> > "add" the device in the bluetooth control panel devices screen -
> > accept the PIN the Nokia gives you (that is, click OK on that
> > screen after making sure "trusted" is checked), type the PIN on
> > the keyboard while it is waiting and press enter on the keyboard.
> >  It should fiddle about for a few seconds, then your bluetooth
> > icon should turn blue and you should be good to go.
>
> That's pretty much what I did when I got it, to set it up first
> time.
>
> > From then on, just don't turn off Bluetooth on the N800
>
>=

Actually there isn't  a big difference between turning BT off  and 
having BT on but not connected to any device.  When connected yes 
there is a drain.  When it's on but not connected to anything it's no 
more of a drain than having WiFi available but not connected.  

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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Jose Antonio Vacas Martinez
Grande

On Dec 11, 2007 11:24 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I really love it!
> So fast even on gprs!
>
> The way mail reading was meant to be.
>
> Thanks a lot for this gem. It deserves a place in the next os release.
>
> - Original message -
> > Dear Maemo-Users,
> >
> > If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in
> > the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)
> >
> > [ Scroll down for the install file (but please read this mail
> > first!). ]
> >
> > We've been working on "Modest" for a while now, with great
> > contributions from Igalia (http://www.igalia.com/news/modest),
> > Philip Van Hoof (Tinymail), Openismus and others. And while
> > it's not finished or bugfree yet, you might want to give
> > it a try. We'll be blogging on Planet Maemo with news and
> > updates.
> >
> > Some highlights:
> > - the basics: POP/IMAP/SMTP (normal/secure);
> > - IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE ("push-email")
> > - easy setup of new accounts
> > - send and receive of rich text-emails
> > - managing mail with your fingers
> > - 100% open-source with a BSD-like license
> >
> > Some important notes:
> > - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program
> > - it does have the same name/icon in the menus, so don't
> > get confused!
> > - modest uses English, regardless of your settings
> > - modest works great with Gmail; don't forget to use
> > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as your username, not just 'user'.
> >
> > You can find an install file here:
> > http://modest.garage.maemo.org/repos/modest-chinook.install
> >
> > This is for OS2008 (Chinook), and will *not* work on OS2007.
> > It's bèta release, not for production use, so use at your own
> > risk!
> >
> > If you do, please let us know what you think of modest. Please
> > refer to our webpage to see the various communication
> > channels that are available -- thanks.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > The Modest Team.
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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
I really love it!
So fast even on gprs!

The way mail reading was meant to be.

Thanks a lot for this gem. It deserves a place in the next os release.

- Original message -
> Dear Maemo-Users,
>
> If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in
> the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)
>
> [ Scroll down for the install file (but please read this mail
> first!). ]
>
> We've been working on "Modest" for a while now, with great
> contributions from Igalia (http://www.igalia.com/news/modest),
> Philip Van Hoof (Tinymail), Openismus and others. And while
> it's not finished or bugfree yet, you might want to give
> it a try. We'll be blogging on Planet Maemo with news and
> updates.
>
> Some highlights:
>     - the basics: POP/IMAP/SMTP (normal/secure);
>     - IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE ("push-email")
>     - easy setup of new accounts
>     - send and receive of rich text-emails
>     - managing mail with your fingers
>     - 100% open-source with a BSD-like license
>    
> Some important notes:
>     - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program
>     - it does have the same name/icon in the menus, so don't
>        get confused!
>     - modest uses English, regardless of your settings
>     - modest works great with Gmail; don't forget to use
>        '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as your username, not just 'user'.
>
> You can find an install file here:
> http://modest.garage.maemo.org/repos/modest-chinook.install
>
> This is for OS2008 (Chinook), and will *not* work on OS2007.
> It's bèta release, not for production use, so use at your own
> risk!
>
> If you do, please let us know what you think of modest. Please
> refer  to our webpage to see the various communication
> channels that are available -- thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
> The Modest Team.
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-11 Thread Peter Flynn
Ryan Pavlik wrote:
> Except for the "Visible" checkbox (which is _not_ necessary - that's if 
> you want the N800 to show up as a device on other peoples' 
> Bluetooth-capable devices), what you described is exactly what I have, 
> except I don't need to do that every time.  I'd remove the device from 
> the list on the N800, remove the battery from the keyboard (so it 
> forgets its pairings), then put the battery back in.  Now, push and hold 
> the little white button on the keyboard until the light blinks.  You 
> should be able to "add" the device in the bluetooth control panel 
> devices screen - accept the PIN the Nokia gives you (that is, click OK 
> on that screen after making sure "trusted" is checked), type the PIN on 
> the keyboard while it is waiting and press enter on the keyboard.  It 
> should fiddle about for a few seconds, then your bluetooth icon should 
> turn blue and you should be good to go.  

That's pretty much what I did when I got it, to set it up first time.

> From then on, just don't turn off Bluetooth on the N800 

Ah. But that is a serious pull on battery life.

> simply press any key on the keyboard to 
> re-connect it.  (Don't press the little reset white switch thing!) 

Ah again. I assumed you needed to press the little white button to start 
the keyboard.

OK, device deleted from N800, cold battery restart on keyboard, 
re-paired OK. So far so good.

Fold up keyboard, wait, and the BT icon goes white, and a tap on a text 
field now invokes the on-screen keyboard. So far so better.

Unfold the keyboard, hit Enter, and it's back in action. Excellent!

Fold up keyboard, wait for depairing, turn BT off.

Turn BT back on using the Switch On BT applet, which I put in the 
Utilities menu. Unfold the keyboard, hit Enter...and Yay! It connects.

Very many thanks!

> It's really that simple - it sounds like perhaps the keyboard never 
> initially got paired right or something. 

I was pressing the white button each time. If I'd bothered to RTFM 
properly I'd have spotted that it's sliding in the keyboard sides that 
turns it on, not clicking the button.

>> I seem to remember seeing that, but assumed it wasn't meaningful, as I 
>> don't have xmodmap on my N800.
>>   
> Presumably that is available online, maemo.org/downloads or similar, or 
> can be cross-compiled without modification in scratchbox.

I haven't got a toolchain set up to compile stuff yet: I'm hoping to 
avoid that path.

OK, next up...Emacs :-)

///Peter
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-11 Thread Peter Flynn
Jonathan D. Proulx wrote:
> My BlueTooth  icon is always there unless I'm in off line mode adn
> does auto connect to any trusted device in range (my keyboard or GPS).

Hmm. Mine disappears when you click Switch Off Bluetooth.
I just downloaded the Start BT applet, maybe this will help.

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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Jonathan Greene
Great work everyone!  I've been enjoying this for a while now and it's
been well worth the wait!

Just posted on Maemoapps...

On Dec 11, 2007 3:30 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Maemo-Users,
>
> If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in
> the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)
>
> [ Scroll down for the install file (but please read this mail
> first!). ]
>
> We've been working on "Modest" for a while now, with great
> contributions from Igalia (http://www.igalia.com/news/modest),
> Philip Van Hoof (Tinymail), Openismus and others. And while
> it's not finished or bugfree yet, you might want to give
> it a try. We'll be blogging on Planet Maemo with news and
> updates.
>
> Some highlights:
> - the basics: POP/IMAP/SMTP (normal/secure);
> - IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE ("push-email")
> - easy setup of new accounts
> - send and receive of rich text-emails
> - managing mail with your fingers
> - 100% open-source with a BSD-like license
>
> Some important notes:
> - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program
> - it does have the same name/icon in the menus, so don't
> get confused!
> - modest uses English, regardless of your settings
> - modest works great with Gmail; don't forget to use
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as your username, not just 'user'.
>
> You can find an install file here:
> http://modest.garage.maemo.org/repos/modest-chinook.install
>
> This is for OS2008 (Chinook), and will *not* work on OS2007.
> It's bèta release, not for production use, so use at your own
> risk!
>
> If you do, please let us know what you think of modest. Please
> refer  to our webpage to see the various communication
> channels that are available -- thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
> The Modest Team.
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-11 Thread Nick Phillips
On 11/12/2007, at 8:24 AM, Mike Klein wrote:
>
> I can tough type > 120wpm and the Apple keyboard brings me down to  
> like
> 30wpm...it isn't easy to type on when on your lap as it's so narrow.  
> The
> HappyHacking keyboard is better example of small keyboard (although
> wired) with full-size keys and travel.

Tough Typing... I like it. Perhaps referring to use of qwerty rather  
than dvorak, or just wearing camo trousers, warpaint, flexing the  
biceps and going "grrr!" while typing?


Cheers,


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Incoming IMs refused in OS 2006

2007-12-11 Thread ktneely

I have just noticed that there is no real notification for incoming IMs when 
using the built-in Gtalk IM client.  I am running 2.2006.39-14

I can initiate IM messages to contacts just fine.  And, I noticed that the IM 
is received, as when I was testing with a friend, I pulled up the IM client to 
send the contact a message, and there the tests were, just waiting for me to 
find them.

Is there a way to have the incoming IM message pop up on the screen when I am 
logged in and marked as available?

thank you,
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OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Dirk-Jan.Binnema
Dear Maemo-Users,

If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in 
the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)

[ Scroll down for the install file (but please read this mail 
first!). ]

We've been working on "Modest" for a while now, with great
contributions from Igalia (http://www.igalia.com/news/modest),
Philip Van Hoof (Tinymail), Openismus and others. And while
it's not finished or bugfree yet, you might want to give 
it a try. We'll be blogging on Planet Maemo with news and 
updates.

Some highlights:
- the basics: POP/IMAP/SMTP (normal/secure);
- IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE ("push-email")
- easy setup of new accounts
- send and receive of rich text-emails
- managing mail with your fingers
- 100% open-source with a BSD-like license

Some important notes:
- modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program
- it does have the same name/icon in the menus, so don't 
get confused!
- modest uses English, regardless of your settings
- modest works great with Gmail; don't forget to use
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as your username, not just 'user'.

You can find an install file here:
http://modest.garage.maemo.org/repos/modest-chinook.install

This is for OS2008 (Chinook), and will *not* work on OS2007.
It's bèta release, not for production use, so use at your own
risk!

If you do, please let us know what you think of modest. Please 
refer  to our webpage to see the various communication 
channels that are available -- thanks. 

Best wishes,
The Modest Team.
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Re: maemo.org login problem

2007-12-11 Thread Ognen Duzlevski
Oddly enough, mine just worked too.

digger vermont wrote:
> What ever the problem was, I just tried and it has been resolved for me.
>
> On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 09:52 -0500, Ognen Duzlevski wrote:
>   
>> Levi Bard wrote:
>> 
 Anyone else experiencing login problems to the maemo.org site? I created
 a garage username on Dec 8th and still cannot login to maemo.org. It
 keeps telling me that the username or password is invalid with a note
 that if I created a garage account, it should be active in 15 min or so.
 No link on the page to anywhere to complain about the issue. I am trying
 to access
 https://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_4-0_porting_guide.html
 
 
>>> If your login has any uppercase characters, try logging in with its
>>> lowercase version.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> Nope, the username has only lowercase characters.
>> Ognen
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Re: maemo.org login problem

2007-12-11 Thread digger vermont
What ever the problem was, I just tried and it has been resolved for me.

On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 09:52 -0500, Ognen Duzlevski wrote:
> Levi Bard wrote:
> >> Anyone else experiencing login problems to the maemo.org site? I created
> >> a garage username on Dec 8th and still cannot login to maemo.org. It
> >> keeps telling me that the username or password is invalid with a note
> >> that if I created a garage account, it should be active in 15 min or so.
> >> No link on the page to anywhere to complain about the issue. I am trying
> >> to access
> >> https://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_4-0_porting_guide.html
> >> 
> >
> > If your login has any uppercase characters, try logging in with its
> > lowercase version.
> >
> >   
> Nope, the username has only lowercase characters.
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Re: maemo.org login problem

2007-12-11 Thread digger vermont

On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 09:52 -0500, Ognen Duzlevski wrote:
> Levi Bard wrote:
> >> Anyone else experiencing login problems to the maemo.org site? I created
> >> a garage username on Dec 8th and still cannot login to maemo.org. It
> >> keeps telling me that the username or password is invalid with a note
> >> that if I created a garage account, it should be active in 15 min or so.
> >> No link on the page to anywhere to complain about the issue. I am trying
> >> to access
> >> https://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_4-0_porting_guide.html
> >> 
> >
> > If your login has any uppercase characters, try logging in with its
> > lowercase version.
> >
> >   
> Nope, the username has only lowercase characters.
> Ognen

You are not alone.  I tried creating a second account just to make sure
and it's the same problem.

Another reply I got regarding it said it may be due to a server
relocation.

As far as the link you want for the porting guide, try changing https:
to http: I believe it will work.


digger

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Re: New, renamed version of 770-encode video converter now available

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Dec 5, 2007 11:41 AM, Luca Olivetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi, I sent you off list a couple of patches for mediaserv and
> tablet-encode.

Your enhancements to VDR support have been included in v2.15, which
also features a simple GUI mode if gtk2-perl bindings are installed.
Screenshots at:

http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html#screenshots

http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2007/12/11/tablet_encode_v2_15_now_with_gui

This is entirely optional, though, and will work exactly as before
(well, *better* than before ;-)) on headless boxes, or ones without
the bindings installed.

Cheers,

Andrew

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Re: maemo.org login problem

2007-12-11 Thread Ognen Duzlevski
Levi Bard wrote:
>> Anyone else experiencing login problems to the maemo.org site? I created
>> a garage username on Dec 8th and still cannot login to maemo.org. It
>> keeps telling me that the username or password is invalid with a note
>> that if I created a garage account, it should be active in 15 min or so.
>> No link on the page to anywhere to complain about the issue. I am trying
>> to access
>> https://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_4-0_porting_guide.html
>> 
>
> If your login has any uppercase characters, try logging in with its
> lowercase version.
>
>   
Nope, the username has only lowercase characters.
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Re: maemo.org login problem

2007-12-11 Thread Levi Bard
> Anyone else experiencing login problems to the maemo.org site? I created
> a garage username on Dec 8th and still cannot login to maemo.org. It
> keeps telling me that the username or password is invalid with a note
> that if I created a garage account, it should be active in 15 min or so.
> No link on the page to anywhere to complain about the issue. I am trying
> to access
> https://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_4-0_porting_guide.html

If your login has any uppercase characters, try logging in with its
lowercase version.

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maemo.org login problem

2007-12-11 Thread Ognen Duzlevski
Anyone else experiencing login problems to the maemo.org site? I created 
a garage username on Dec 8th and still cannot login to maemo.org. It 
keeps telling me that the username or password is invalid with a note 
that if I created a garage account, it should be active in 15 min or so. 
No link on the page to anywhere to complain about the issue. I am trying 
to access 
https://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_4-0_porting_guide.html

Thanks,
Ognen
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Re: DVD to tablet

2007-12-11 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 14:08 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> > Btw, I had the audio become noise when encoding on linux/ppc (ubuntu) -
> > I guess mencoder has some endian issue in some audio codecs? IIRC this
> > was an older version of the script though - I'll try remember to have a
> > look at this again once I am at home.
> 
> There are now some instructions in the README in the tarball on how to
> fix this issue. Please let me know if they don't work for you.

Ok, cool!

Will check, thanks a lot! :-)

//T

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Re: DVD to tablet

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Dec 11, 2007 2:03 PM, Tuomas Kuosmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:27:02PM +, Andrew Flegg wrote:
> > >
> > > > htttp://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html
>
> Btw, I had the audio become noise when encoding on linux/ppc (ubuntu) -
> I guess mencoder has some endian issue in some audio codecs? IIRC this
> was an older version of the script though - I'll try remember to have a
> look at this again once I am at home.

There are now some instructions in the README in the tarball on how to
fix this issue. Please let me know if they don't work for you.

Cheers,

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Re: DVD to tablet

2007-12-11 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 13:51 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Dec 10, 2007 11:45 PM, Brian Litzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:27:02PM +, Andrew Flegg wrote:
> >
> > > htttp://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html
> >
> > I had to comment out the line that starts
> >
> > #die "mplayer doesn't support lavc encoder\n" unless

Btw, I had the audio become noise when encoding on linux/ppc (ubuntu) -
I guess mencoder has some endian issue in some audio codecs? IIRC this
was an older version of the script though - I'll try remember to have a
look at this again once I am at home.

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Re: DVD to tablet

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Dec 10, 2007 11:45 PM, Brian Litzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:27:02PM +, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
> > htttp://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html
>
> I had to comment out the line that starts
>
> #die "mplayer doesn't support lavc encoder\n" unless

That's peculiar. But it still transcoded video properly?

Could you send me the output of `mencoder -ovc help' and `mencoder -oac help'?

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

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Re: N810: available in UK web shop

2007-12-11 Thread A J Thew
Expansys have been selling it for a while but appear to have run out.

www.expansys.co.uk

A Thew

On 11/12/2007, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now, you can buy N810 @ shop.nokia.co.uk. Discount codes do not work yet.
>
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-11 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:24:15AM -0800, Mike Klein wrote:
> The apple wireless keyboard...while A+ in the looks department is more 
> like a B- when it comes to actual work. The keys are NOT full-sized and 
> don't have appropriate amount of travel. Larger keys would've made 
> footprint larger though.

It's exactly the same size as the keyboard on my T-series ThinkPad,
which is the same size as the alphanumeric section of a random USB
keyboard I have by my desk.  Vertically, no, the keys are not that deep,
but I always assumed "full-size" meant the size and relative positions
of the keys rather than their depth.

> I can tough type > 120wpm and the Apple keyboard brings me down to like 
> 30wpm...it isn't easy to type on when on your lap as it's so narrow. The 
> HappyHacking keyboard is better example of small keyboard (although 
> wired) with full-size keys and travel.

Right, the Apple keyboard is too small for comfortable typing while
holding it on your lap.

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N810: available in UK web shop

2007-12-11 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Now, you can buy N810 @ shop.nokia.co.uk. Discount codes do not work yet.

Sergey
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