Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 09:54 +0200, Igor Stoppa wrote: > That's weird - N800 and 770 have practically the same chargin interface > - HW, SW and battery - and when doing idle chargin their current is > comparable. > > Unless the N800 sw recognises the fake charger and simply refuses to use > it :-) > > Does it show any message, like "Not Charging", when you plug in the fake > charger? Yeah, it said "not charging". It *could be* that I remember wrong. And of course I have thrown that one away already since I lost the converter cable from large to small plug, and the charger was cheaper than a new one :) - would have been useful to check the specs on the label. //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Disappearing Widgets.
Hi, I have seen the same on my N800 with OS 2008 beta. It happens when dialog windows popup. The dialogs still work fine but are plain white without anything in it. The device might be low on memory in this situation. Maybe Cairo simply refuses to render widgets if it's low on memory? Cheers, Martin 2007/12/18, Tuomas Kuosmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 18:26 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > > Nope right now just running the stock 0S2008 BAF themes (Big A** Font) > > the 2007 ones wouldn't even install if I tried as dependencies don't > > match. > > > > You just go along for hours ... and have to restart to switch > > batteries for example or any other reason and suddenly sans widgets. > > Visual only the function remains. > > Yeah, like Eero said, this sounds really strange. I have not seen this > ever lately (and I have seen quite a few interesting effects while we > were hacking on the theme config stuff when developing it) > > If the theme configuration file contains some errors, this will cause > nasty breakage, but it would most likely require that you installed > something that touched the theme files. > > You mean it just comes up with blank widgets after a reboot, or does it > happen while it runs? I guess the only way to figure this out is to try > to narrow down the cases when it happens..? > > The only idea I have right now is that you reflash the device, and note > down *everything* you install and see if it happens again. > > //Tuomas > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Disappearing Widgets.
ext Martin Grimme wrote: > Hi, > > I have seen the same on my N800 with OS 2008 beta. It happens when > dialog windows popup. The dialogs still work fine but are plain white > without anything in it. The device might be low on memory in this > situation. Maybe Cairo simply refuses to render widgets if it's low on > memory? > > Do these dialog's still have borders or is it just a white rectangle on screen? > Cheers, > Martin > > > 2007/12/18, Tuomas Kuosmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 18:26 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: >> >>> Nope right now just running the stock 0S2008 BAF themes (Big A** Font) >>> the 2007 ones wouldn't even install if I tried as dependencies don't >>> match. >>> >>> You just go along for hours ... and have to restart to switch >>> batteries for example or any other reason and suddenly sans widgets. >>> Visual only the function remains. >>> >> Yeah, like Eero said, this sounds really strange. I have not seen this >> ever lately (and I have seen quite a few interesting effects while we >> were hacking on the theme config stuff when developing it) >> >> If the theme configuration file contains some errors, this will cause >> nasty breakage, but it would most likely require that you installed >> something that touched the theme files. >> >> You mean it just comes up with blank widgets after a reboot, or does it >> happen while it runs? I guess the only way to figure this out is to try >> to narrow down the cases when it happens..? >> >> The only idea I have right now is that you reflash the device, and note >> down *everything* you install and see if it happens again. >> >> //Tuomas >> >> >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> >> > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > // Tapani Pälli -- Software Engineer Open Source Software Operations ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
En/na Peter Flynn ha escrit: > These chargers seem to be very fragile, which is disappointing for > something that cannot be replaced easily (not in stores), and the > closest (N95 charger) costs €25. They also cannot be opened for a > simple rewiring repair, even after removing the two retaining screws, as > they appear to be sealed. Not to mention the plug and the socket: two days ago I inadvertently left my n800 charging while my roomba was working, so dear old roomba decided to eat the cable, throwing my n800 on the floor (from a height of around 50cm). The n800 wasn't damaged, but both the charger plug and the socket were. Now the plug (both the damaged one and the brand new car charger one) wouldn't fit as snugly in the socket as before, so it will start charging but if I breathe in its direction it's enough to unseat the plug :-( I tried to lift the ground contact in the socket with a pin but it doesn't help, as soon as I insert the plug it goes back. Why didn't nokia stay with the previous, sturdier, connector? It doesn't seem that big to me. And, is the socket easy to find or do I have to buy a complete replacement back cover? Bye -- Luca ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Disappearing Widgets.
Hi, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > On Monday 17 December 2007 07:02:57 am you wrote: >> ext James Sparenberg wrote: >>>First, Yes I understand 2008 is a beta. So please don't >>> anyone get defensive. But I think I have a case somehow of >>> application vs 2008 and I'm trying to track it down. Can't file a >>> bug until I can say "do this and that happens" or at least say >>> what is happening. >>> >>> I'm about to do a 3rd re-install this weekend. Each one is >>> promted by the same thing. After a restart (last on promted by a >>> need to change battery for a charged one while out) I loose all >>> visible widgets. No buttons (I've the text) no progress or scroll >>> bars, nothing. Now the functionality is still there. If I guess >>> the location of a scroll button it will scroll, Buttons though >>> only defined by the text that was on them still push. Did you see this issue right after boot, or only after using the device for a while? >>> I seem to recall someone having this kind of event in the past >>> and a cure existing. Though for the life of me I can't remember >>> what it was. >>> >>> Any suggestions would be appreciated as this is #3 event in 3 >>> days. Though the "remember what was installed" feature of 2008 is >>> working well. >> I've never heard of this issue, so I assume it's 3rd party SW >> issue. >> >> What you have installed? Any 3rd party themes for example? Hm. I just remembered that I saw an effect like this in some devel version of ITOS2006 on N770. The reason was that some process had used all the file descriptors and therefore Gtk apps couldn't get shared memory segments with the X server and sapwood server couldn't load new theme images. However, Chinook has a large enough amount of file descriptors that you can have all the pre-installed apps in use and one that has leaked as many file descriptors as a single process can (thousand) and the device still works. So, this might not be the cause. But to make sure, please mail what this gives: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr > Not yet. Havent found any for 2008. Though I am begining to suspect > either Xournal or OMWeather. (or both.) OMWeather was earlier leaking very badly (and because it's a Desktop plugin and Desktop is OOM-protected, the applet could force device to get very slow and eventually to reboot). Please attach /proc/meminfo file contents from the situation when this happens. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Dec 18, 2007 8:54 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 09:51 +0200, ext Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 20:56 -0800, ext Joshua Layne wrote: > > > they have had warranty issues on it. However, a brief search on google > > > shows some fly-by-night places that have it for really cheap (like a few > > > dollars), so I may just pick up a replacement and a spare for the > > > office./; > > > > Beware that some of the cheap noname ones might have different voltages > > - one of my 12V car chargers for example does not charge my N800 at all. > > It charges 770's and phones just fine. > > That's weird - N800 and 770 have practically the same chargin interface > - HW, SW and battery - and when doing idle chargin their current is > comparable. > > Unless the N800 sw recognises the fake charger and simply refuses to use > it :-) I object :) With my 770, I could use my Nokia 6021 charger ACP-7E (with the plug adapter CA-44) nicely. Unfortunately, it is no longer possible with n800, probably because the output power of the charger is too low. A collegue is able to charge his n800 (and 770) with his 6230 charger (ACP-12E) and the adapter. -- Frederic Crozat ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 10:19 +0100, ext Frédéric Crozat wrote: > On Dec 18, 2007 8:54 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 09:51 +0200, ext Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 20:56 -0800, ext Joshua Layne wrote: > > > > they have had warranty issues on it. However, a brief search on google > > > > shows some fly-by-night places that have it for really cheap (like a few > > > > dollars), so I may just pick up a replacement and a spare for the > > > > office./; > > > > > > Beware that some of the cheap noname ones might have different voltages > > > - one of my 12V car chargers for example does not charge my N800 at all. > > > It charges 770's and phones just fine. > > > > That's weird - N800 and 770 have practically the same chargin interface > > - HW, SW and battery - and when doing idle chargin their current is > > comparable. > > > > Unless the N800 sw recognises the fake charger and simply refuses to use > > it :-) > > I object :) > > With my 770, I could use my Nokia 6021 charger ACP-7E (with the plug > adapter CA-44) nicely. Unfortunately, > it is no longer possible with n800, probably because the output power > of the charger is too low. > > A collegue is able to charge his n800 (and 770) with his 6230 charger > (ACP-12E) and the adapter. It depends also on the sw version you are running on the tablet. Different OS versions have different versions of charging sw. Anyway, it shouldn't fail silently, but show some message. -- Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Nokia Multimedia - CP - OSSO / Helsinki, Finland) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Dec 18, 2007 10:22 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 10:19 +0100, ext Frédéric Crozat wrote: > > On Dec 18, 2007 8:54 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 09:51 +0200, ext Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 20:56 -0800, ext Joshua Layne wrote: > > > > > they have had warranty issues on it. However, a brief search on > > > > > google > > > > > shows some fly-by-night places that have it for really cheap (like a > > > > > few > > > > > dollars), so I may just pick up a replacement and a spare for the > > > > > office./; > > > > > > > > Beware that some of the cheap noname ones might have different voltages > > > > - one of my 12V car chargers for example does not charge my N800 at all. > > > > It charges 770's and phones just fine. > > > > > > That's weird - N800 and 770 have practically the same chargin interface > > > - HW, SW and battery - and when doing idle chargin their current is > > > comparable. > > > > > > Unless the N800 sw recognises the fake charger and simply refuses to use > > > it :-) > > > > I object :) > > > > With my 770, I could use my Nokia 6021 charger ACP-7E (with the plug > > adapter CA-44) nicely. Unfortunately, > > it is no longer possible with n800, probably because the output power > > of the charger is too low. > > > > A collegue is able to charge his n800 (and 770) with his 6230 charger > > (ACP-12E) and the adapter. > > It depends also on the sw version you are running on the tablet. At the time I did the test, it was OS 2006 on 770 and 2007 on n800. > Different OS versions have different versions of charging sw. > > Anyway, it shouldn't fail silently, but show some message. Yes, there was an error (not very explanatory IIRC). But it renders my CA-44 adapter useless :( Sound like a regression for paying Nokia customers.. -- Frederic Crozat ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Disappearing Widgets.
The dialogs still have borders and titles. Cheers, Martin 2007/12/18, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > ext James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Monday 17 December 2007 07:02:57 am you wrote: > >> ext James Sparenberg wrote: > >>>First, Yes I understand 2008 is a beta. So please don't > >>> anyone get defensive. But I think I have a case somehow of > >>> application vs 2008 and I'm trying to track it down. Can't file a > >>> bug until I can say "do this and that happens" or at least say > >>> what is happening. > >>> > >>> I'm about to do a 3rd re-install this weekend. Each one is > >>> promted by the same thing. After a restart (last on promted by a > >>> need to change battery for a charged one while out) I loose all > >>> visible widgets. No buttons (I've the text) no progress or scroll > >>> bars, nothing. Now the functionality is still there. If I guess > >>> the location of a scroll button it will scroll, Buttons though > >>> only defined by the text that was on them still push. > > Did you see this issue right after boot, or only after using > the device for a while? > > > >>> I seem to recall someone having this kind of event in the past > >>> and a cure existing. Though for the life of me I can't remember > >>> what it was. > >>> > >>> Any suggestions would be appreciated as this is #3 event in 3 > >>> days. Though the "remember what was installed" feature of 2008 is > >>> working well. > >> I've never heard of this issue, so I assume it's 3rd party SW > >> issue. > >> > >> What you have installed? Any 3rd party themes for example? > > Hm. I just remembered that I saw an effect like this in some devel > version of ITOS2006 on N770. The reason was that some process had > used all the file descriptors and therefore Gtk apps couldn't get > shared memory segments with the X server and sapwood server couldn't > load new theme images. > > However, Chinook has a large enough amount of file descriptors that you > can have all the pre-installed apps in use and one that has leaked as > many file descriptors as a single process can (thousand) and the device > still works. So, this might not be the cause. But to make sure, > please mail what this gives: > cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr > > > > Not yet. Havent found any for 2008. Though I am begining to suspect > > either Xournal or OMWeather. (or both.) > > OMWeather was earlier leaking very badly (and because it's a Desktop > plugin and Desktop is OOM-protected, the applet could force device to > get very slow and eventually to reboot). > > Please attach /proc/meminfo file contents from the situation when > this happens. > > > - Eero > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 01:56:43AM +, Peter Flynn wrote: > These chargers seem to be very fragile, which is disappointing for > something that cannot be replaced easily (not in stores), and the This just happened to me, as well. I use my N770 on the cradle it came with and plugged into the charger. It seems that the pinch to which the cable is exposed in that position has ruined the cabel right at the joint where it connects to the plug. An l-shaped plug would be nice. Another option for you is that the iTips people make a plug for the N-series. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
n810 dpad menu buttons
Tim Ashman wrote: > I have to agree I don't like the d-pad or menu button next to the keyboard. > It needs to be on the front like the last two. IMHO, Nokia ought to consider N8xx faceplate button designs that would allow the option for the n8xx devices to evolve into a PSP like gamer for users inclined towards that sort of thing. The n8xx has all sorts of power to play quality PC games with a poor to mediocre button interface. There's no reason that 'regular' n8xx users couldn't easily adapt to use a couple faceplate gamer buttons to do their business thing. Especially given that the current faceplate button layouts are not particularly intuitive for either the n800 or n810 business users. Besides, the next frontier for personal devices appears to be media/computing/internet/phone/gamer. No device currently does it all very well, but there's plenty of movement in this direction with the Iphone/Touch, wifi PSP and others. The n8xx probably comes as close as any device in having all the hardware and software capabilities lined up. A couple more months of game software development and it's there, except for the piss poor gamer button interface. Hmm, I suppose something like the n810 with it's keyboard option might even allow for a personal WC wifi gamer device, complete with headset doing battle in WC cyberspace. I suppose we all could get used to stepping over and around the millions of WC zombies hanging out at every wifi hot spot they run into. After all, we're adapting to using the n8xx buttons... :S -- Always, Dr Fred C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
What is "2nd" piece in N800 FIASCO image?
Hello, Because I have a powerpc with linux I need to use 0x to flash images. 0x doesn't yet have the ability to flash the entire image but it can unpack the image and then install the individual pieces. The pieces are: 2nd, initfs, kernel, rootfs, secondary, and xloader. I can successfully flash all the pieces except "2nd" The N800 seems to operate fine without it. However, hat does that piece do and what am I missing? Thanks, digger ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
solved(ish) Re: WPA-Enterprise (PEAP-MSCAPv2) problem with N810/OS2008
I finally got some time to work with the RADIUS administrator and troubleshoot this. In the end, I was able to get authenticated, but there are some definite bugs in the wireless connection manager, because I shouldn't have had this much trouble. Our network (to briefly re-summarize): Cisco LWAPs (Light-Weight Access Points) (1131 and 1242) Cisco Wireless Controllers (WISM blades for Cisco 6500 chassis) MS Internet Authentication Service RADIUS with PEAP/MS-CHAPv2 over WPA1 (TKIP) and WPA2(CCMP) with named user authentication. The setup that worked: --- WLAN :) --- Network Name (SSID): blah Network is hidden: checked (and true) Network Mode: Infrastructure Security Method: WPA with EAP --- EAP type: PEAP --- Select Certificate: None (we don't use client certs) EAP method: EAP MSCHAPv2 --- User name: WHATEVER (doesn't matter as it doesn't seem to actually use this field) Password: password Prompt for password: UNCHECKED --- Advanced:EAP - Use Manual user name: checked Manual user name: username Require Client Authentication: unchecked --- Ok, so this looks pretty normal, except for a few things: 1) if you don't enter the manual username in the advanced properties, it sends totally garbled credentials which (obviously) fail authentication and the log shows the EAP type as undetermined: --- User qQVHj2kwcIhtnSA6QhmpIm was denied access. Fully-Qualified-User-Name = OBFUSCATED\qQVHj2kwcIhtnSA6QhmpIm NAS-IP-Address = OBFUSCATED NAS-Identifier = OBFUSCATED Called-Station-Identifier = OBFUSCATED Calling-Station-Identifier = OBFUSCATED Client-Friendly-Name = OBFUSCATED Client-IP-Address = OBFUSCATED NAS-Port-Type = Wireless - IEEE 802.11 NAS-Port = 29 Proxy-Policy-Name = Use Windows authentication for all users Authentication-Provider = Windows Authentication-Server = Policy-Name = Authentication-Type = EAP EAP-Type = Reason-Code = 8 Reason = The specified user account does not exist. --- 2) if you select prompt for password AND you have manual user name checked AND you have an entry for the manual username, you will get a password prompt, which will fail and nothing will even make it to the RADIUS logs... Basically: as far as I can tell, the username field is not used in the main configuration tab, only the 'manual user name' is used in the advanced settings. Secondarily, the 'prompt for password' option does does not seem to authenticate properly, as it didn't even show in the RADIUS logs. So I guess the result is mixed - _I_ have my issue fixed (and hopefully these steps help somebody else), but this doesn't seem to be proper behavior on the part of the wireless configuration manager. On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:20:10 -0700, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua, > > Please add your comments/experiences here: > > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1017 I will add the text of this email to the bug, need to set up an account. Rgds, Josh ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
Joshua Layne wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:56:43 +, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> I have the identical problem, and some poking around revealed that the >> wire from the charger to the unit is internally broken close to (or >> within) the rat-tail that comes out of the charger plug. >> >> These chargers seem to be very fragile, which is disappointing for >> something that cannot be replaced easily (not in stores), and the >> closest (N95 charger) costs €25. They also cannot be opened for a >> simple rewiring repair, even after removing the two retaining screws, as >> they appear to be sealed. >> >> How do I buy a replacement charger (or 3 or 4 of them if they are >> fragile)? > > having gotten a full charge by leaving my N810 in the car for a few hours > (my DC adapters stayed powered with the car off, thankfully), I can say > with a fair assurance that I have the same problem as Peter. I will be > getting the power adapter replaced under warranty if at all possible. If > nothing else, Nokia is more likely to acknowledge it as an actual issue if > they have had warranty issues on it. I bought mine from eBay, so I am flying without a warranty. Is there somewhere I can report this kind of failure separately? Although IMHE large companies probably aren't interested in things like charger failures unless they are a health/safety hazard :-) I just bought a Europlug (old Nokia) to microEuro (N800) adapter, so I'm hunting for a suitable old Nokia charger that delivers 5v at the right rating. Fred wrote: > A collegue is able to charge his n800 (and 770) with his 6230 charger > (ACP-12E) and the adapter. I'll go look for one... ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:57:15 +, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua Layne wrote: >> >> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:56:43 +, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> with a fair assurance that I have the same problem as Peter. I will be >> getting the power adapter replaced under warranty if at all possible. > If >> nothing else, Nokia is more likely to acknowledge it as an actual issue > if >> they have had warranty issues on it. > > I bought mine from eBay, so I am flying without a warranty. > Is there somewhere I can report this kind of failure separately? > Although IMHE large companies probably aren't interested in things > like charger failures unless they are a health/safety hazard :-) I think you are spot on about the lack of interest - certainly in the customer rep I talked to, so not sure what the warranty is worth. I have to ship the charger to them at my expense and then wait for a replacement (if they see a problem with it). Seems really silly for a piece of gear that I can buy for under $20. OTOH, the car chargers (the DC-4) seem to be really robust and I doubt I will ever have an issue with them (I bought two: one to hack apart for USB power) -josh ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 04:16:42PM -0800, Joshua Layne wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:57:15 +, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joshua Layne wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:56:43 +, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> with a fair assurance that I have the same problem as Peter. I > >> will be getting the power adapter replaced under warranty if at all > >> possible. If nothing else, Nokia is more likely to acknowledge it > >> as an actual issue if they have had warranty issues on it. > > > > I bought mine from eBay, so I am flying without a warranty. > > Is there somewhere I can report this kind of failure separately? > > Although IMHE large companies probably aren't interested in things > > like charger failures unless they are a health/safety hazard :-) > > I think you are spot on about the lack of interest - certainly in the > customer rep I talked to, so not sure what the warranty is worth. I have > to ship the charger to them at my expense and then wait for a replacement > (if they see a problem with it). Seems really silly for a piece of gear > that I can buy for under $20. Mine arrived broken. I was told I would have to return the entire package (n800 and all) since it came as a whole unit. But eventually Nokia relented and sent me just a new charger. So you might have luck if you are persistent. -- Paul Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pjcj.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Disappearing Widgets.
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 12:00:15 am Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 18:26 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > > Nope right now just running the stock 0S2008 BAF themes (Big A** > > Font) the 2007 ones wouldn't even install if I tried as > > dependencies don't match. > > > > You just go along for hours ... and have to restart to switch > > batteries for example or any other reason and suddenly sans > > widgets. Visual only the function remains. > > Yeah, like Eero said, this sounds really strange. I have not seen > this ever lately (and I have seen quite a few interesting effects > while we were hacking on the theme config stuff when developing it) > > If the theme configuration file contains some errors, this will > cause nasty breakage, but it would most likely require that you > installed something that touched the theme files. > > You mean it just comes up with blank widgets after a reboot, or > does it happen while it runs? I guess the only way to figure this > out is to try to narrow down the cases when it happens..? > > The only idea I have right now is that you reflash the device, and > note down *everything* you install and see if it happens again. > > //Tuomas > Agreed on all of the above. If it hadn't happened 3 times I wouldn't have worried. One thing though hasn't happened since Sunday and the last install I did I intentionally left OMWeather and Xournal off. It is blanking after a reboot and the first sign of problem is that the lock panel coms up as a white square with numbers. (nobuttons no colors) Then when it starts the left panel is gone (but icons are there) colors are all wonky in the menu as the highlight doesn't work right. Added to that all internal borders/buttons and progress bars are MIA. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 12:08:38 am Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 09:54 +0200, Igor Stoppa wrote: > > That's weird - N800 and 770 have practically the same chargin > > interface - HW, SW and battery - and when doing idle chargin > > their current is comparable. > > > > Unless the N800 sw recognises the fake charger and simply refuses > > to use it :-) > > > > Does it show any message, like "Not Charging", when you plug in > > the fake charger? > > Yeah, it said "not charging". > > It *could be* that I remember wrong. And of course I have thrown > that one away already since I lost the converter cable from large > to small plug, and the charger was cheaper than a new one :) - > would have been useful to check the specs on the label. > > //T > > That may be it, as some large plug Nokia chargers had a lower voltage/MA rating than the small plug ones do. (We've owned more than one Nokia phone in our family...) James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Disappearing Widgets.
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 12:37:11 am Tapani Pälli wrote: > ext Martin Grimme wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have seen the same on my N800 with OS 2008 beta. It happens > > when dialog windows popup. The dialogs still work fine but are > > plain white without anything in it. The device might be low on > > memory in this situation. Maybe Cairo simply refuses to render > > widgets if it's low on memory? > > Do these dialog's still have borders or is it just a white > rectangle on screen? Best example is the lock screen when starting up. black background with numbers on a white square. James > > > Cheers, > > Martin > > > > 2007/12/18, Tuomas Kuosmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 18:26 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > >>> Nope right now just running the stock 0S2008 BAF themes (Big > >>> A** Font) the 2007 ones wouldn't even install if I tried as > >>> dependencies don't match. > >>> > >>> You just go along for hours ... and have to restart to switch > >>> batteries for example or any other reason and suddenly sans > >>> widgets. Visual only the function remains. > >> > >> Yeah, like Eero said, this sounds really strange. I have not > >> seen this ever lately (and I have seen quite a few interesting > >> effects while we were hacking on the theme config stuff when > >> developing it) > >> > >> If the theme configuration file contains some errors, this will > >> cause nasty breakage, but it would most likely require that you > >> installed something that touched the theme files. > >> > >> You mean it just comes up with blank widgets after a reboot, or > >> does it happen while it runs? I guess the only way to figure > >> this out is to try to narrow down the cases when it happens..? > >> > >> The only idea I have right now is that you reflash the device, > >> and note down *everything* you install and see if it happens > >> again. > >> > >> //Tuomas > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> maemo-users mailing list > >> maemo-users@maemo.org > >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > // Tapani Pälli ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Monday 17 December 2007 08:56:21 pm Joshua Layne wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:56:43 +, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I have the identical problem, and some poking around revealed > > that the wire from the charger to the unit is internally broken > > close to (or within) the rat-tail that comes out of the charger > > plug. > > > > These chargers seem to be very fragile, which is disappointing > > for something that cannot be replaced easily (not in stores), and > > the closest (N95 charger) costs €25. They also cannot be opened > > for a simple rewiring repair, even after removing the two > > retaining screws, as they appear to be sealed. > > > > How do I buy a replacement charger (or 3 or 4 of them if they are > > fragile)? > > having gotten a full charge by leaving my N810 in the car for a few > hours (my DC adapters stayed powered with the car off, thankfully), > I can say with a fair assurance that I have the same problem as > Peter. I will be getting the power adapter replaced under warranty > if at all possible. If nothing else, Nokia is more likely to > acknowledge it as an actual issue if they have had warranty issues > on it. However, a brief search on google shows some fly-by-night > places that have it for really cheap (like a few dollars), so I may > just pick up a replacement and a spare for the office./; > > My power cord had not moved from where it had been originally > plugged in when I bought the unit, so it shouldn't have failed. > > Apologies for my panicked initial post - I was worried I would be > without my baby ;P IF the n810 uses the same power supply/charger as the n800 then one way to get 'official' Nokia chargers is buy going to t-maobile or other phone dealer and buying a charger designed to fit a Nokia 6103 phone. I have that phone and the chargers for my 770 n800 and phone are all the same. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: What is "2nd" piece in N800 FIASCO image?
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 12:22:45 pm digger vermont wrote: > Hello, > > Because I have a powerpc with linux I need to use 0x to flash > images. > > 0x doesn't yet have the ability to flash the entire image but > it can unpack the image and then install the individual pieces. > The pieces are: 2nd, initfs, kernel, rootfs, secondary, and > xloader. > > I can successfully flash all the pieces except "2nd" The N800 > seems to operate fine without it. However, hat does that piece do > and what am I missing? > > > Thanks, > > digger Though it is binary a bit of poking at it leads me to believe it is some kind of control file for fiasco images (the .bin file you have to open up) that tells the flash installers how to handle all the parts and in what order. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: What is "2nd" piece in N800 FIASCO image?
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 19:28 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > On Tuesday 18 December 2007 12:22:45 pm digger vermont wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Because I have a powerpc with linux I need to use 0x to flash > > images. > > > > 0x doesn't yet have the ability to flash the entire image but > > it can unpack the image and then install the individual pieces. > > The pieces are: 2nd, initfs, kernel, rootfs, secondary, and > > xloader. > > > > I can successfully flash all the pieces except "2nd" The N800 > > seems to operate fine without it. However, hat does that piece do > > and what am I missing? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > digger > > Though it is binary a bit of poking at it leads me to believe it is > some kind of control file for fiasco images (the .bin file you have > to open up) that tells the flash installers how to handle all the > parts and in what order. No, 2nd, secondary and xloader are parts of the bootloader. Flashing them can brick the device, should something go wrong, since they provide the tablet-side interface to the pc-side flasher program. In general one shouldn't care too much about the bootloader, since it does basic board-specific initialisation, such as pad muxing. -- Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Nokia Multimedia - CP - OSSO / Helsinki, Finland) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
