Re: WiFi Connection Problem - N800 OS2008

[Josh Z]

I'm still having trouble getting connected here.  and was given the following 
URL for reference, but I couldn't figure it out. 
http://lug.cs.uic.edu/wiki/doku.php?id=wifi 

How shall I translate that script on the URL into the setup of Connection 
config of OS2008 on my N800?

Please help!

Josh


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mike Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: WiFi Connection Problem - N800


> Thanks Mike!
> 
> Requirements: "If you would like to try using software (e.g. Dell Wireless 
> Utility, Intel ProSet Wireless, etc.) already installed on your computer, it 
> must be able to support 802.1X security with the TTLS authentication 
> protocol, and the TTLS inner authentication protocol of PAP. You must also 
> add the Thawte Premium Server CA to the Verify Server Certificates option."
> 
> I'm using OS2008, and i couldn't go through with the wireless setup without 
> inputing the WEP(SSID, Infrastructure, not hidden, WEP... ), which I have no 
> idea of. But I didn;t have to do that with my laptop setup. 
> 
> Josh
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Josh Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: WiFi Connection Problem - N800
> 
> 
>> Having "Odyssey" cannot be a real requirement. Most people download
>> odyssey because their WM/PocketPC wifi support sucks and Odyssey is more
>> robustodyssey also supports Enterprise WPA/WPA2, etc. and this is
>> another reason why people want it.
>> 
>> What are exact reqt's of wifi network? Wep, wpa2, wpa, wpa2Enterprise, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> mike
>> 
>> Josh Z wrote:
>>> Hi- I'm a newcomer here. Just got my N800 2 days ago. First post.
>>> Problem here is this: My dorm is 802.11g-equipped, and my laptop works
>>> well with the wireless network. However, they do require an Odyssey
>>> (by Juniper Networks ) be installed for wireless access, but with N800
>>> and Linux, that seems to be a bit of problem. Phenomenon is, I was
>>> constantly prompted to enter the WEP when trying to connect to the
>>> wireless network. Yes, N800 does a good job detecting the signal
>>> strength. Is there any way I can go around this to make it work on my
>>> N800? Thanks!
>>> Happy New Year!
>>> Josh
>>> 
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Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

[Zoran Kolic]

> > A lot of useful command line tools have gone to the mist.
> > Hope the same will not get perl, python, ruby...
> 
> So, what command-line tools do you miss?  I've got an idle scratchbox
> here.

None. I still have my 770 and it works fine. I made a mistake
and said my word or two about trend in device making. I am bsd
user and having dedicated box just for few apps is no go to me.
Sorry for the noise.

> I've built some today (less, links, mc, wget; made vim actually
> installable).  I don't have upload privileges to maemo extras yet, so
> you can find them only at http://mg.pov.lt/770/

Huts down! Ten point for you!

> Python is semi-installable on OS2008 today; for some packages you have
> to go through the kitten dance[1] to avoid broken CDN proxies.

Broken repository is a shame. And 2-3 weeks of broken repository
is something I cannot say on the list.

> [1] The kitten dance is this (needs root): 

I put all files in the same directory and it goes well.
I found your answers very helpfull. So thank you for the sake od
maemo users.

  Zoran

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Re: Playing MPEG-2 or .tivo files on N800 OS2008

[William Gordon Rutherdale]

Thanks for the info, Ryan.

I may be interested in trying to compile things myself.  The key though 
is that someone has already compiled both Free42 and MPlayer for OS2007, 
and (as you already indicated) I don't want to duplicate effort without 
finding out what their plans are.

How would I go about learning who the maintainers are?

-Will

Ryan Pavlik wrote:
> The install file is not the operative issue here - it is the fact that
> applications must be recompiled to run on OS 2008 (Chinook) and many
> require modifications before they do so.  The compiling and packaging
> produces a .deb - the .install is just a text file indicating where the
> .deb is (simplifying this a bit, but you get the point.)
>
> It might be best to contact the maintainers of the ports of those
> programs and see if they plan on offering a 2008/Chinook build soon
> before striking out on ones' own to port them again.
>
> Ryan
>
> William Gordon Rutherdale wrote:
>   
>> Hi.
>>
>> I'm new to the N800 and did an upgrade to the latest OS2008.
>>
>> I have discovered that OS2008 is not backwards compatible with OS2007 in 
>> terms of packages you can install.
>>
>> In particular there is a Media Player package ready to install on the 
>> OS2007 page but not on the OS2008 page.  If I try installing it anyway I 
>> get an error message.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what is involved in creating a version of the 
>> .install file that works for OS2008.  Or if someone is planning to put 
>> one up in the near future, please let us know.
>>
>> I am interested in at least one other package too:  Free42.  This is the 
>> emulation of the HP42 calculator.  I am able to install it easily to an 
>> ordinary Linux desktop.  I have confirmed that the version on the OS2007 
>> download page works when I have OS2007 installed but not when I have 
>> OS2008 installed.
>>
>> There is also another application I like to run on a Linux desktop that 
>> I haven't seen at all on the download pages.  Presumably other people 
>> aren't interested.  If I want to get it working, it sounds like I have 
>> to learn how to use Scratchbox and try to create the .install file 
>> myself.  Is that the correct direction?
>>
>> Should I be directing these questions to the developers list?
>>
>> -Will
>> 

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Re: Playing MPEG-2 or .tivo files on N800 OS2008

[Ryan Pavlik]

The install file is not the operative issue here - it is the fact that
applications must be recompiled to run on OS 2008 (Chinook) and many
require modifications before they do so.  The compiling and packaging
produces a .deb - the .install is just a text file indicating where the
.deb is (simplifying this a bit, but you get the point.)

It might be best to contact the maintainers of the ports of those
programs and see if they plan on offering a 2008/Chinook build soon
before striking out on ones' own to port them again.

Ryan

William Gordon Rutherdale wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'm new to the N800 and did an upgrade to the latest OS2008.
>
> I have discovered that OS2008 is not backwards compatible with OS2007 in 
> terms of packages you can install.
>
> In particular there is a Media Player package ready to install on the 
> OS2007 page but not on the OS2008 page.  If I try installing it anyway I 
> get an error message.
>
> Can anyone tell me what is involved in creating a version of the 
> .install file that works for OS2008.  Or if someone is planning to put 
> one up in the near future, please let us know.
>
> I am interested in at least one other package too:  Free42.  This is the 
> emulation of the HP42 calculator.  I am able to install it easily to an 
> ordinary Linux desktop.  I have confirmed that the version on the OS2007 
> download page works when I have OS2007 installed but not when I have 
> OS2008 installed.
>
> There is also another application I like to run on a Linux desktop that 
> I haven't seen at all on the download pages.  Presumably other people 
> aren't interested.  If I want to get it working, it sounds like I have 
> to learn how to use Scratchbox and try to create the .install file 
> myself.  Is that the correct direction?
>
> Should I be directing these questions to the developers list?
>
> -Will
>
> Russ Wenner wrote:
>   
>> Thank you.  I did not realize MPlayer was different than the built-in
>> Media Player.  It does play MPEG2 files.  It is not playing the .tivo
>> files, while playing from my internal SD card has little digital
>> squares jumping around and the audio is squeally.  I'm thinking that I
>> may try toning-down the recording quality on the Tivo which may make
>> the frame rate more manageable.  Thank you in advance for all help!
>> Below I am pasting text from the MPlayer report:
>> MPlayer 1.0rc1-maemo.23.n8x0 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
>>   
>> 
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Re: Fun crashes on OS2008

[Ryan Pavlik]

Use the Bugzilla - bugs.maemo.org

Marius Gedminas wrote:
> Two shell crashes on OS2008.  One is reproducible but mostly harmless:
>
>   $ type
>
> /bin/sh segfaults and your session ends.
>
> The other is not reproducible: while hitting the  key to go back in
> history I suddenly got this:
>
>   ~ $ pidof *** glibc detected *** -sh: double free or corruption (!prev): 
> 0x0004ed40 ***
>
> /bin/sh aborts and your session ends.  Scary.
>
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Re: Playing MPEG-2 or .tivo files on N800 OS2008

[William Gordon Rutherdale]

Hi.

I'm new to the N800 and did an upgrade to the latest OS2008.

I have discovered that OS2008 is not backwards compatible with OS2007 in 
terms of packages you can install.

In particular there is a Media Player package ready to install on the 
OS2007 page but not on the OS2008 page.  If I try installing it anyway I 
get an error message.

Can anyone tell me what is involved in creating a version of the 
.install file that works for OS2008.  Or if someone is planning to put 
one up in the near future, please let us know.

I am interested in at least one other package too:  Free42.  This is the 
emulation of the HP42 calculator.  I am able to install it easily to an 
ordinary Linux desktop.  I have confirmed that the version on the OS2007 
download page works when I have OS2007 installed but not when I have 
OS2008 installed.

There is also another application I like to run on a Linux desktop that 
I haven't seen at all on the download pages.  Presumably other people 
aren't interested.  If I want to get it working, it sounds like I have 
to learn how to use Scratchbox and try to create the .install file 
myself.  Is that the correct direction?

Should I be directing these questions to the developers list?

-Will

Russ Wenner wrote:
> Thank you.  I did not realize MPlayer was different than the built-in
> Media Player.  It does play MPEG2 files.  It is not playing the .tivo
> files, while playing from my internal SD card has little digital
> squares jumping around and the audio is squeally.  I'm thinking that I
> may try toning-down the recording quality on the Tivo which may make
> the frame rate more manageable.  Thank you in advance for all help!
> Below I am pasting text from the MPlayer report:
> MPlayer 1.0rc1-maemo.23.n8x0 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
>   

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Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

[James Knott]

Peter Flynn wrote:
> Marius Gedminas wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote:
>> 
 If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08.  There's
 enough 08 stuff for a new user that you'll spend a week or more
 exploring all that's available, and by then, even more stuff will be
 available.
 
>>> A lot of useful command line tools have gone to the mist.
>>> Hope the same will not get perl, python, ruby...
>>>   
>> So, what command-line tools do you miss?  I've got an idle scratchbox
>> here.
>> 
>
> ping and traceroute would be useful.
>
>   

Ping is there, but you have to be root to use it.


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Re: PhoneLink or CellPhoneTool or gnokii on OS2008

[Adam Nelson]

> Hi,
> Depending on the carrier you have, they may have it disabled. I
> use Verizon in the US and it's never worked. They purposely disable
> most of bluetooth's capability by flashing their own firmware onto the
> the handset.


Thanks for the response.  Any idea how I would determine that
conclusively?  Since I can't seem to get any meaningful error message
or debug logs it seems the problem could be anything at all...

Thanks,
Adam
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Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

[Peter Flynn]

Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote:
>>> If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08.  There's
>>> enough 08 stuff for a new user that you'll spend a week or more
>>> exploring all that's available, and by then, even more stuff will be
>>> available.
>> A lot of useful command line tools have gone to the mist.
>> Hope the same will not get perl, python, ruby...
> 
> So, what command-line tools do you miss?  I've got an idle scratchbox
> here.

ping and traceroute would be useful.

///Peter
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Re: Installing OS2008 on N800

[Peter Flynn]

Piotr Zagorowski wrote:
> what's the harm of using web search?

None, except that it's very unreasonable to expect a new user to do this.

> simple query leads you to nokia website, nokia website leads you to 
> os2008 website and on os2008 website there is maemo logo which leads you 
> to meamo website and there we are. it takes about 7 min..

That kind of chain really isn't something to expect a complete newcomer 
to do.

nokia.com should have a link to the wiki or wherever newcomers are 
expected to go. Failing to do this is a marketing error.

///Peter


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Fun crashes on OS2008

[Marius Gedminas]

Two shell crashes on OS2008.  One is reproducible but mostly harmless:

  $ type

/bin/sh segfaults and your session ends.

The other is not reproducible: while hitting the  key to go back in
history I suddenly got this:

  ~ $ pidof *** glibc detected *** -sh: double free or corruption (!prev): 
0x0004ed40 ***

/bin/sh aborts and your session ends.  Scary.

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Bluetooth keyboard weirdness?

[Marius Gedminas]

I used an Apple Wireless keyboard with the N800 with OS2007.  After a
certain period of inactivity the keyboard would go to sleep and the N800
would notice it and let me use the on-screen virtual keyboard.  When I
started typing on the Apple Wireless keyboard again, it would wake up,
reconnect and send all the keystrokes to the N800 without losing any
characters.

Today I've flashed OS2008 and re-paired the keyboard (somewhat
painfully).  When the BT keyboard goes to sleep, I can again use the
on-screen vkb, but the statusbar bluetooth icon still thinks it's still
connected.  When I start typing on the BT keyboard, nothing happens.
I have to use Bluetooth statusbad icon to disconnect the BT keyboard
manually, and then when I type it reconnects, losing the first few
characters I typed.

Has anyone else noticed a regression like this?  I did a quick bugzilla
seach, but other than a seemingly unrelated crash bug (2616) didn't find
anything.  Bug 2640 is what I experienced when I tried to pair, but I
somehow managed to get it done in the end.

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Getting root on OS2008

[Marius Gedminas]

Easy!

 1. Enable the Maemo Extras repository
 2. Install openssh
 3. Define a root password (openssh's installer prompts you for this)
 4. Open xterm
 5. ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Type the password you set in step 3.

No 3rd-party packages or R&D mode necessary.

For extra geeks like me (warning: vi knowledge necessary):

 6. visudo
 7. Add

  user ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
  root ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

at the end.

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OS2008 beautiful!

[Marius Gedminas]

Flashed OS2008 on my N800 today.  My heartfelt thanks to everyone who
participated in creating the beautiful theme, and all the user interface
improvements.

Also big thanks to those responsible for the enhanced osso-xterm in the
default install image, extras repository predefined in the app
installer, and openssh-server root password prompt.

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Re: Installing OS2008 on N800

[Marius Gedminas]

On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 02:21:48PM +, Peter Flynn wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
> > Aniruddha wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 26 December 2007 23:49:32 James Knott wrote:
> >>   
> >>> I have just downloaded the OS2008 image for the N800, but I don't see
> >>> any instructions for installing it.  Also, when I downloaded it, it was
> >>> saved as nokia_N800.php, instead of
> >>> RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin.  I had to rename it,
> >>> so that I could run md5sums.
> >>>
> >>> How do I install this update?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> tnx jk
> >>> 
> >>
> >> http://www.nokiausa.com/A4410958
> >>
> >>   
> > 
> > Thanks. I wonder if there's some logical reason why that info was not
> > provided on the download page?
> > Sometimes, I get the feeling Nokia deliberately tries to make things
> > difficult.
> 
> PHP-driven sites are notorious for defective filetyping. For some reason 
> PHP fails to inform Apache/IIS that the file being served is of media 
> type x/y so the server assumes the media type of the parent page (.php)

Should be easy to fix, no?  Set some HTTP headers (Content-Disposition,
IIRC?) and all works fine.

Is there a bug tracker for http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/?

(Heh, currently the page at that URL says

  The service is temporarily unavailable. We are very sorry for the
  inconvinience[sic] it may cause.

Misspelt error messages are always funny.)

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Re: Internet connection via mobile phone

[Marius Gedminas]

On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 12:14:18AM +0100, sebastian maemo wrote:
> I need some information, maybe somebody could help me on this... I need to
> know where's the configuration file for the bluetooth connection between the
> 770 and the mobile phone.

In gconf, under /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/.

You can always see/change the configuration (or the phone number) by
going to the Control Panel -> Connectivity -> Connections.

> In my debian PC it is in /etc/wvdial.conf, but 770
> doesn't use wvdial, so that I assume that it is some ppp file. Though I've
> yet not been able to find the one I'm looking for. I need the configuration
> file where it appears the line Phone=*99#...

Why do you need it?

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Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

[Marius Gedminas]

On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote:
> > If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08.  There's
> > enough 08 stuff for a new user that you'll spend a week or more
> > exploring all that's available, and by then, even more stuff will be
> > available.
> 
> A lot of useful command line tools have gone to the mist.
> Hope the same will not get perl, python, ruby...

So, what command-line tools do you miss?  I've got an idle scratchbox
here.

I've built some today (less, links, mc, wget; made vim actually
installable).  I don't have upload privileges to maemo extras yet, so
you can find them only at http://mg.pov.lt/770/

Python is semi-installable on OS2008 today; for some packages you have
to go through the kitten dance[1] to avoid broken CDN proxies.

[1] The kitten dance is this (needs root): 

cd /var/cache/apt/archives
sudo apt-get install whateveryouwant
  see which URLs failed with a size mismatch error
sudo wget -O package-filename-version.deb http://url/from/above?kitten
  for every URL that couldn't be downloaded normally, append
  ?kittens and save here under the normal filename
sudo apt-get install whateveryouwant
  actually install stuff

Credit goes to sp3000 on #maemo for the idea.

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Re: Unlocalised browser when launched from ssh (OS2008)

[Marius Gedminas]

On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 11:28:08PM +0200, Tuomas Kulve wrote:
> Marius Gedminas wrote:
> 
> >   browser --url http://www.google.com
> 
> > Bug?
> 
> WORKSFORME.

Aha!  ssh copies my locale settings from the laptop, and lt_LT.UTF-8 is not 
supported
on the tablet:

  ~ $ locale
  locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
  locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
  LANG=en_US
  LC_CTYPE=lt_LT.UTF-8
  LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
  LC_TIME="en_US"
  LC_COLLATE="en_US"
  LC_MONETARY="en_US"
  LC_MESSAGES=en_US
  LC_PAPER="en_US"
  LC_NAME="en_US"
  LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
  LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
  LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
  LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
  LC_ALL=

When I override LC_CTYPE, I get translated messages.  A bit strange
that LC_CTYPE affects them -- LC_MESSAGES is sensible.

Well, then, I'll just add

  export LC_CTYPE=en_GB

to ~/.profile.

Thanks for the quick answer!

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Re: Installing OS2008 on N800

[James Knott]

Piotr Zagorowski wrote:
> what's the harm of using web search?
> simple query leads you to nokia website, nokia website leads you to
> os2008 website and on os2008 website there is maemo logo which leads
> you to meamo website and there we are. it takes about 7 min..
>

And what's the harm of putting a link on the page where the image is
located?  Or on the Nokia page that points to it?  If a user goes to the
Nokia or maemo page, why should it be necessary to search for anything?
Put the link where someone will find it.  Don't expect someone to search
when the instructions should be where the update is.

What is so hard to understand about that?

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Re: Installing OS2008 on N800

[James Knott]

James Knott wrote:
> Piotr Zagorowski wrote:
>   
>> what's the harm of using web search?
>> simple query leads you to nokia website, nokia website leads you to
>> os2008 website and on os2008 website there is maemo logo which leads
>> you to meamo website and there we are. it takes about 7 min..
>>
>> 
>
> And what's the harm of putting a link on the page where the image is
> located?  Or on the Nokia page that points to it?  If a user goes to the
> Nokia or maemo page, why should it be necessary to search for anything? 
> Put the link where someone will find it.  Don't expect someone to search
> when the instructions should be where the update is.
>
> What is so hard to understand about that?
>
>   
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Re: Unlocalised browser when launched from ssh (OS2008)

[Tuomas Kulve]

Marius Gedminas wrote:

>   browser --url http://www.google.com

> Bug?

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Unlocalised browser when launched from ssh (OS2008)

[Marius Gedminas]

Flashed OS2008 on my N800.  Nice!

Weird thing: ssh to the tablet and run

  browser --url http://www.google.com

The browser window appears, but its title says "weba_ap_web_browser".
The other messages also appear to be untranslated.

Bug?

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Re: E: CPU transparency method 'qemu-arm-0.8.2-sb2' not found

[Marius Gedminas]

On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 05:27:32PM +0700, Jakov wrote:
> I installed Scratchbox, started it, then installed Maemo, but I got that
> error, "E: CPU transparency method 'qemu-arm-0.8.2-sb2' not found". I used
> the switch "-q qemu-0.9.0-5.fc8.x86_64" because I'm using Fedora 8 with that
> package installed. But it didn't accept. What's the right qemu for me to
> install on that Fedora 8, 64-bit environment? Thanks in advance!

I don't know, but why don't you try

  sb-conf show --cputransp

and pick the name that you see there?  If you don't see anything, well,
then something is wrong (most likely you'll find out that Scratchbox
doesn't support x86-64 and you need to figure out how to install a
32-bit version instead).

FWIW qemu itself doesn't provide a cputransp method for scratchbox;
there's a separate glue package.  It's named scratchbox-devkit-cputransp
on Debian/Ubuntu.

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Re: Playing MPEG-2 or .tivo files on N800 OS2008

[Kevin T. Neely]

On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 12:39:23PM -0500, Russ Wenner wrote:
> Thank you.  I did not realize MPlayer was different than the built-in
> Media Player.  It does play MPEG2 files.  It is not playing the .tivo


You may want to check out the great tablet-encode scripts available at 
garage.maemo.org.  I have not used them for tivo files, but have used them to 
convert DVDs to be played on my 770.  As it relies upon mplayer and mencoder, 
assuming you have the necessary codecs, you can probably convert those files to 
something mplayer on your tablet can play.

good luck,
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Re: Installing OS2008 on N800

[Piotr Zagorowski]

what's the harm of using web search?
simple query leads you to nokia website, nokia website leads you to os2008
website and on os2008 website there is maemo logo which leads you to meamo
website and there we are. it takes about 7 min..

regards
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>
> What's the harm of including instructions or at least a link to
> them, from the maemo site?
>
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Re: Installing OS2008 on N800

[James Knott]

Neil MacLeod wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
>   
>> Which takes me to
>> http://europe.nokia.com/A4579470, where I find "For updating your
>> software using a Linux computer, go to www.maemo.org
>> .",
>> which is exactly where I started from.
>>
>> 
>
> I have re-read your original post - does the above Wiki page fail to provide 
> the information you seek? If that is exactly where you started from, what is 
> it about the Wiki page that fails to describe how you install the update? The 
> Wiki page appears to describe the process for Linux in simple, easy to follow 
> steps - I'm not sure what it is you are missing, to be honest.
>
>   

An average consumer may not know about the wiki. They'll go to Nokia and
if they're looking for the Linux install, they'll be taken to the maemo
site, where there are no instructions for installing the image. Are
users supposed to be clairvoyant, so that they automatically know of the
wiki? What's the harm of including instructions or at least a link to
them, from the maemo site?


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Re: PhoneLink or CellPhoneTool or gnokii on OS2008

[Peter Bart]

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:40:14 -0500
"Adam Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just got a N810 for Christmas and am trying to send and receive SMS
> messages using my Bluetooth-enabled phone from the N810 using
> PhoneLink or CellPhoneTool.  Both of these apps use gnokii for the
> communication with the phone.
> 
> I've peered the N810 with my phone successfully, and can browse the
> stuff on my phone over Bluetooth using the File Manager.  However,
> whenever I try to launch CellPhoneTool (though I've had the same
> problem with PhoneLink), I get an error message saying:
> 
> Phone connection error.  Resource temporarily unavailable.
> 
> My ~/.gnokiirc follows:
> 
> [global]
> port = (My phone's MAC address)
> model = AT
> rfcomm_channel = 2
> initlength = default
> connection = bluetooth
> use_locking = yes
> serial_baudrate = 19200
> smsc_timeout = 10
> 
> [gnokiid]
> bindir = /usr/sbin/
> 
> [connect_script]
> TELEPHONE = 12345678
> 
> [disconnect_script]
> 
> [logging]
> debug = on
> rlpdebug = on
> xdebug = on
> 
> That file is as it was initialized by the PhoneTool installer, with
> the exception of the debug settings, which I changed to 'on' from
> 'off' in the hopes of getting some more meaningful debug output.
> 
> After reading gnokii.org, I thought it would help if I could run the
> actual 'gnokii' app from xterm to see what sort of diagnostic output I
> can get, but there's no installable gnokii package for OS2008; the
> only one I could find is dependent on 'adduser', which I read
> somewhere was deprecated for OS2008.
> 
> Has anyone been able to get anything gnokii-related working on OS2008
> version 50-2 with a Bluetooth phone in general, or a Motorola MOTOKRZR
> in particular?  Any hints on what I might be doing wrong or other
> places I might look?



Hi,
Depending on the carrier you have, they may have it disabled. I
use Verizon in the US and it's never worked. They purposely disable
most of bluetooth's capability by flashing their own firmware onto the
the handset.

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Re: Playing MPEG-2 or .tivo files on N800 OS2008

[Russ Wenner]

Thank you.  I did not realize MPlayer was different than the built-in
Media Player.  It does play MPEG2 files.  It is not playing the .tivo
files, while playing from my internal SD card has little digital
squares jumping around and the audio is squeally.  I'm thinking that I
may try toning-down the recording quality on the Tivo which may make
the frame rate more manageable.  Thank you in advance for all help!
Below I am pasting text from the MPlayer report:
MPlayer 1.0rc1-maemo.23.n8x0 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team

CPU: ARM

Internet Tablet OS version: RX-34+RX-44_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_MR0


Menu inited: /etc/mplayer/menu.conf


Playing /media/mmc2/test.TiVo.

MPEG-PS file format detected.

VIDEO: MPEG2 480x480 (aspect 2) 29.970 fps 9000.0 kbps (1125.0 kbyte/s)

[nokia770] Nokia N800 hardware detected

==

Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough

VDec: vo config request - 480 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Mpeg PES)

Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...

Opening video filter: [scale]

VDecoder init failed :(

Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b

Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm: libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2))

==

==

Trying to force audio codec driver family dspmp3...

Opening audio decoder: [dspmp3] MP3 audio pass-through for Nokia
770/N800 (fake decoder)

ADecoder init failed :(

Trying to force audio codec driver family libmad...

Opening audio decoder: [libmad] libmad mpeg audio decoder

AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 192.0 kbit/12.50% (ratio: 24000->192000)

Selected audio codec: [mad] afm: libmad (libMAD MPEG layer 1-2-3)

==

[AO SDL] Samplerate: 48000Hz Channels: Stereo Format s16le

AO: [sdl] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)

Starting playback...

VDec: vo config request - 480 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)

VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)

Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.

VO: [nokia770] 480x480 => 640x480 Planar YV12 [fs] [zoom]

[nokia770] Using ARM JIT YUV420 scaler (quality=2) to scale 480x480 => 480x480

Maybe you are playing a non-interleaved stream/file or the codec failed?

For AVI files, try to force non-interleaved mode with the -ni option.

Cannot sync MAD frame

On Dec 29, 2007 10:53 AM, Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can't do it from the file manager: open MPlayer (which is _not_ the
> built in Media Player) and choose your file from there.
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Re: Playing MPEG-2 or .tivo files on N800 OS2008

[Ryan Pavlik]

You can't do it from the file manager: open MPlayer (which is _not_ the
built in Media Player) and choose your file from there.

Ryan

Russ Wenner wrote:
> When I point File Manager at it, it says "Unable to recognise file
> type of: ".TiVo" Search for an application to open it?
> I select "OK" and choose "Media Player" from the list and it tries
> fires up and comes back with "Media codec not supported".
>
> --
> Russ
>
> On Dec 29, 2007 10:24 AM, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> have you tried MPlayer?  I don't have a Tivo to try this with, but worth a 
>> shot.
>>
>>
>> 
>
>   
>>> Has anyone found a way to play MPEG-2 or .tivo files on their Nokia tablet?
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Re: Playing MPEG-2 or .tivo files on N800 OS2008

[Russ Wenner]

When I point File Manager at it, it says "Unable to recognise file
type of: ".TiVo" Search for an application to open it?
I select "OK" and choose "Media Player" from the list and it tries
fires up and comes back with "Media codec not supported".

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On Dec 29, 2007 10:24 AM, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> have you tried MPlayer?  I don't have a Tivo to try this with, but worth a 
> shot.
>
>

> > Has anyone found a way to play MPEG-2 or .tivo files on their Nokia tablet?
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Re: Playing MPEG-2 or .tivo files on N800 OS2008

[Jonathan Greene]

have you tried MPlayer?  I don't have a Tivo to try this with, but worth a shot.

On Dec 29, 2007 10:03 AM, Russ Wenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Has anyone found a way to play MPEG-2 or .tivo files on their Nokia tablet?
>
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Playing MPEG-2 or .tivo files on N800 OS2008

[Russ Wenner]

Greetings,

Has anyone found a way to play MPEG-2 or .tivo files on their Nokia tablet?

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Re: WiFi Browsing Does Not Work OS2008

[Chris]

> re : "Do you know anyone else with a N800 who can try to connect? Can you
> connect with a notebook computer?"
> My laptop connects fine with this AP. Unfortunately, I do not know anyone
> else with an N800.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2007 7:51 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If I read this bug right, it has been fixed in OS2008 by providing the
> > "Power Savings Off" selection in Advanced Setting for the Connection. I
> > tried this setting and I still have the same issue.
> >
> > Anyone know if utilities that I can use to help determine what the issue
> > is?
> >
> > Chirs
> >
> >
> > On Dec 28, 2007 9:55 AM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is not my area, but it could be this issue:
> > >https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1147
> > >
> > > AFAIK this (along with bug 1170) is an issue with your access point
> > > power management not conforming to the standard.  Happily the bug
> > > report seems to have a workaround.
> > >
> > >
> > >- Eero
> > >
> > > ext Chris wrote:
> > > > Nope, still get the "Unable to Connect To Server" error.
> > > > BTW, I cannot even ping the N800 from either the router (D-link has
> > > Ping
> > > > built into the router) or from another lan PC.  I do see the Router
> > > assigns
> > > > an IP address 192.168.0.100
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 28, 2007 9:22 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >> BTW, I cannot even ping the N800 from either the router (D-link has
> > > Ping
> > > >> built into the router) or from another lan PC.  I do see the Router
> > > assigns
> > > >> an IP address 192.168.0.100
> > > >>
> > > >> On Dec 28, 2007 9:17 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>> Nope, still get the "Unable to Connect To Server" error.
> > >  Can you actually see anything from the AP? Like the configuration
> > > page
> > >  (usually at 192.168.0.1)?
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: WiFi Browsing Does Not Work OS2008

[Chris]

If I read this bug right, it has been fixed in OS2008 by providing the
"Power Savings Off" selection in Advanced Setting for the Connection. I
tried this setting and I still have the same issue.

Anyone know if utilities that I can use to help determine what the issue is?

Chirs

On Dec 28, 2007 9:55 AM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is not my area, but it could be this issue:
>https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1147
>
> AFAIK this (along with bug 1170) is an issue with your access point
> power management not conforming to the standard.  Happily the bug
> report seems to have a workaround.
>
>
>- Eero
>
> ext Chris wrote:
> > Nope, still get the "Unable to Connect To Server" error.
> > BTW, I cannot even ping the N800 from either the router (D-link has Ping
> > built into the router) or from another lan PC.  I do see the Router
> assigns
> > an IP address 192.168.0.100
> >
> > On Dec 28, 2007 9:22 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> BTW, I cannot even ping the N800 from either the router (D-link has
> Ping
> >> built into the router) or from another lan PC.  I do see the Router
> assigns
> >> an IP address 192.168.0.100
> >>
> >> On Dec 28, 2007 9:17 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Nope, still get the "Unable to Connect To Server" error.
>  Can you actually see anything from the AP? Like the configuration
> page
>  (usually at 192.168.0.1)?
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Re: Quick Launch for simple scripts

[Julian Toler]

Cool - will grab it and give it a whirl!
Cheers
Julian

On 29/12/2007, David Hautbois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi
> Try Kerez :
>
> http://david.hautbois.free.fr/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=43
>
> David.
>
>
> Julian Toler wrote:
> > I am looking for a way to quickly and easily run some simple scripts -
> > the most immediate example is the one line scripts for switching USB
> > host mode on and off:
> > echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
> > and
> > echo otg > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
> >
> > I really don't want to have to fire up the terminal and type these out
> > (and yes I know tab auto complete can speed this up, but this is still
> > not as easy as a menu item!)
> >
> > I am very much a noob so the following idea may be naive and may be
> > shot down immediately:
> > I am assuming I could create a menu item that would run a shell
> > script? Not sure whether these desktop files need to point at
> > executables or whether executable scripts are also OK?
> >
> > [Desktop Entry]
> > Version=1.0
> > Encoding=UTF-8 ?? needed?
> > Name=MyShinyScript
> > Exec=/usr/bin/myscript.sh (or .py or whatever)
> > Icon=MyNiceIcon (I can create the correct transparent png)
> > Type=Application ?? needed?
> > StartupWMClass= ?? needed?
> > X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable ?? needed?
> > X-Osso-Service=com.nokia. ?? needed?
> >
> > I am guessing MyShinyScript would look something like:
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> > echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
> > I know I must make the scripts executable with chmod +x
> >
> > Of course all this is probably going to be superceded by some kind
> > person who has set up Scratchbox and got their teeth into real
> > programming - a proper Maemo application which installs a simple host
> > mode on-off utility would seem to be a logical development, but in the
> > meanwhile, a scripted hack would be good for me!
> >
> > Please could somebody tell me if my mad idea will work or whether I
> > should go home and start proper application development?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > J
> >
> > 
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Re: Quick Launch for simple scripts

[David Hautbois]

Hi
Try Kerez :
http://david.hautbois.free.fr/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=43

David.


Julian Toler wrote:
> I am looking for a way to quickly and easily run some simple scripts - 
> the most immediate example is the one line scripts for switching USB 
> host mode on and off:
> echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
> and
> echo otg > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
>
> I really don't want to have to fire up the terminal and type these out 
> (and yes I know tab auto complete can speed this up, but this is still 
> not as easy as a menu item!)
>
> I am very much a noob so the following idea may be naive and may be 
> shot down immediately:
> I am assuming I could create a menu item that would run a shell 
> script? Not sure whether these desktop files need to point at 
> executables or whether executable scripts are also OK?
>
> [Desktop Entry]
> Version=1.0
> Encoding=UTF-8 ?? needed?
> Name=MyShinyScript
> Exec=/usr/bin/myscript.sh (or .py or whatever)
> Icon=MyNiceIcon (I can create the correct transparent png)
> Type=Application ?? needed?
> StartupWMClass= ?? needed?
> X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable ?? needed?
> X-Osso-Service=com.nokia. ?? needed?
>
> I am guessing MyShinyScript would look something like:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
> I know I must make the scripts executable with chmod +x
>
> Of course all this is probably going to be superceded by some kind 
> person who has set up Scratchbox and got their teeth into real 
> programming - a proper Maemo application which installs a simple host 
> mode on-off utility would seem to be a logical development, but in the 
> meanwhile, a scripted hack would be good for me!
>
> Please could somebody tell me if my mad idea will work or whether I 
> should go home and start proper application development?
>
> Cheers
>
> J
>
> 
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Quick Launch for simple scripts

[Julian Toler]

I am looking for a way to quickly and easily run some simple scripts - the
most immediate example is the one line scripts for switching USB host mode
on and off:
echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
and
echo otg > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode

I really don't want to have to fire up the terminal and type these out (and
yes I know tab auto complete can speed this up, but this is still not as
easy as a menu item!)

I am very much a noob so the following idea may be naive and may be shot
down immediately:
I am assuming I could create a menu item that would run a shell script? Not
sure whether these desktop files need to point at executables or whether
executable scripts are also OK?

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Encoding=UTF-8 ?? needed?
Name=MyShinyScript
Exec=/usr/bin/myscript.sh (or .py or whatever)
Icon=MyNiceIcon (I can create the correct transparent png)
Type=Application ?? needed?
StartupWMClass= ?? needed?
X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable ?? needed?
X-Osso-Service=com.nokia. ?? needed?

I am guessing MyShinyScript would look something like:

#!/bin/sh
echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
I know I must make the scripts executable with chmod +x

Of course all this is probably going to be superceded by some kind person
who has set up Scratchbox and got their teeth into real programming - a
proper Maemo application which installs a simple host mode on-off utility
would seem to be a logical development, but in the meanwhile, a scripted
hack would be good for me!

Please could somebody tell me if my mad idea will work or whether I should
go home and start proper application development?

Cheers

J
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Re: WiFi Connection Problem - N800

[Josh Z]

Thanks Mike!

Requirements: "If you would like to try using software (e.g. Dell Wireless 
Utility, Intel ProSet Wireless, etc.) already installed on your computer, it 
must be able to support 802.1X security with the TTLS authentication protocol, 
and the TTLS inner authentication protocol of PAP. You must also add the Thawte 
Premium Server CA to the Verify Server Certificates option."

I'm using OS2008, and i couldn't go through with the wireless setup without 
inputing the WEP(SSID, Infrastructure, not hidden, WEP... ), which I have no 
idea of. But I didn;t have to do that with my laptop setup. 

Josh

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Josh Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: WiFi Connection Problem - N800


> Having "Odyssey" cannot be a real requirement. Most people download
> odyssey because their WM/PocketPC wifi support sucks and Odyssey is more
> robustodyssey also supports Enterprise WPA/WPA2, etc. and this is
> another reason why people want it.
> 
> What are exact reqt's of wifi network? Wep, wpa2, wpa, wpa2Enterprise, etc.
> 
> 
> mike
> 
> Josh Z wrote:
>> Hi- I'm a newcomer here. Just got my N800 2 days ago. First post.
>> Problem here is this: My dorm is 802.11g-equipped, and my laptop works
>> well with the wireless network. However, they do require an Odyssey
>> (by Juniper Networks ) be installed for wireless access, but with N800
>> and Linux, that seems to be a bit of problem. Phenomenon is, I was
>> constantly prompted to enter the WEP when trying to connect to the
>> wireless network. Yes, N800 does a good job detecting the signal
>> strength. Is there any way I can go around this to make it work on my
>> N800? Thanks!
>> Happy New Year!
>> Josh
>> 
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Re: WiFi Connection Problem - N800

[Mike Klein]

Having "Odyssey" cannot be a real requirement. Most people download
odyssey because their WM/PocketPC wifi support sucks and Odyssey is more
robustodyssey also supports Enterprise WPA/WPA2, etc. and this is
another reason why people want it.

What are exact reqt's of wifi network? Wep, wpa2, wpa, wpa2Enterprise, etc.


mike

Josh Z wrote:
> Hi- I'm a newcomer here. Just got my N800 2 days ago. First post.
> Problem here is this: My dorm is 802.11g-equipped, and my laptop works
> well with the wireless network. However, they do require an Odyssey
> (by Juniper Networks ) be installed for wireless access, but with N800
> and Linux, that seems to be a bit of problem. Phenomenon is, I was
> constantly prompted to enter the WEP when trying to connect to the
> wireless network. Yes, N800 does a good job detecting the signal
> strength. Is there any way I can go around this to make it work on my
> N800? Thanks!
> Happy New Year!
> Josh
> 
>
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WiFi Connection Problem - N800

[Josh Z]

Hi- I'm a newcomer here.  Just got my N800 2 days ago.  First post.

Problem here is this: My dorm is 802.11g-equipped, and my laptop works well 
with the wireless network. However, they do require an Odyssey (by Juniper 
Networks ) be installed for wireless access, but with N800 and Linux, that 
seems to be a bit of problem. Phenomenon is, I was constantly prompted to enter 
the WEP when trying to connect to the wireless network. Yes, N800 does a good 
job detecting the signal strength.  Is there any way I can go around this to 
make it work on my N800?   Thanks!

Happy New Year!

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