N800 Hardware question
Has Nokia revealed its hardware design specs (chip-level)of the N series especially the N800? Would be good for the developers who want to develop new drivers and applications on the devices. Any idea? Josh ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Hardware question
I don't think there are any official specs, but it's quite easy to find all the interesting data. Search the Maemo Wiki and Google. Should get you all the specs and photos from the chips. General specs: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9981902594.html This tells me the type of FM-radio http://linux.omap.com/pipermail/linux-omap-open-source/2007-February/009067.html Collin On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 17:10 +0800, Josh Z wrote: Has Nokia revealed its hardware design specs (chip-level)of the N series especially the N800? Would be good for the developers who want to develop new drivers and applications on the devices. Any idea? -- Collin R. Mulliner [EMAIL PROTECTED] BETAVERSiON Systems [www.betaversion.net] info/pgp: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife. --Star Trek: Rule of Acquisition #48 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Unlocalised browser when launched from ssh (OS2008)
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 11:12:07PM +0300, Mikhail Sobolev wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 11:41:48PM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 11:28:08PM +0200, Tuomas Kulve wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: browser --url http://www.google.com Aha! ssh copies my locale settings from the laptop, and lt_LT.UTF-8 is not supported on the tablet: ~ $ locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=en_US LC_CTYPE=lt_LT.UTF-8 ... LC_MESSAGES=en_US ... LC_ALL= When I override LC_CTYPE, I get translated messages. A bit strange that LC_CTYPE affects them -- LC_MESSAGES is sensible. Well, then, I'll just add export LC_CTYPE=en_GB to ~/.profile. This is somewhat strange: LC_CTYPE has nothing to do with messages... :( Are you really sure that the line above helps? :) Yes. Try it yourself: ssh into your tablet (or open xterm) and compare $ browser -:3: Invalid color constant 'SelectionColor' -:3: error: invalid string constant SelectionColor, expected valid string constant (window title sane) with $ LC_CTYPE=nosuchlocale browser browser[3439]: GLIB WARNING ** Gtk - Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. browser[3439]: GLIB WARNING ** Gdk - locale not supported by C library browser[3439]: Enable Debug mode browser[3439]: GLIB WARNING ** Gdk - locale not supported by C library browser[3439]: External use of libcertmanui, new osso context needed browser[3439]: OK, Gconf key for certs filename is set: /usr/share/certs/certman.cst browser[3439]: TRYING to open certificate store browser[3439]: lib_init_flag = TRUE .. browser[3439]: _open_certificate_store(): cst_file-str: /usr/share/certs/certman.cst -:3: Invalid color constant 'SelectionColor' -:3: error: invalid string constant SelectionColor, expected valid string constant (window title is a msgid) If it does, probably the situation still is worth a bug... Even if it's a bug, it's a minor one. Hm. I guess it would be an upstream Gnome/Gtk bug in this case. If it cannot find locale for one of the locale settings, it sets everything to C locale... It should set only the given locale setting to C locale (or to what LC_ALL has if that is set). - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
there are news on the question Discount Code?
Hello, because it is not talking more I wanted to know if there are news regarding the issue of discount code of nokia n810. I wanted to know if you know a certain date of authorization codes discount. bye Antonio rafanto.wordpress.com skype:rafanto ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08. There's enough 08 stuff for a new user that you'll spend a week or more exploring all that's available, and by then, even more stuff will be available. A lot of useful command line tools have gone to the mist. Hope the same will not get perl, python, ruby... So, what command-line tools do you miss? I've got an idle scratchbox here. The best place for the command line tools is this: http://maemo.org/development/tools/ For ping, I think best solution would be to take it out of Busybox and provide it as a separate package (including ping6) in the tools repo. This is discussed in following Busybox feature requests: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700 - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Getting root on OS2008
On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 14:42 +0200, ext Ari Yrjölä wrote: Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Easy! 1. Enable the Maemo Extras repository 2. Install openssh 3. Define a root password (openssh's installer prompts you for this) Doesn't ask anything here with N800. It asks only when you install openssh-server first time. -- Ed Bartosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nokia-M/Helsinki ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Swap space: how is it allocated / released?
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 01:58 -0800, ext Denis DeLaRoca wrote: Hi, How's swap space allocated on the internal SD card on IT OS? I thought it was by means of a separate partition but when mounting the SD card on Destop linux system (via USB) only a single 'msdos' partition is shown. There's a swapfile called .swap on the card. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk$ ls -alh .swap -rwx-- 1 tigert root 128M 2007-10-25 08:51 .swap //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: there are news on the question Discount Code?
It is not working in Spain, yet :'-( So, it seems that my working colleges (devices have been bought without discount code) will have it faster than me since theirs will arrive in 2 days. 2008/1/2, Antonio Di Cello [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, because it is not talking more I wanted to know if there are news regarding the issue of discount code of nokia n810. I wanted to know if you know a certain date of authorization codes discount. bye Antonio rafanto.wordpress.com skype:rafanto ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fun crashes on OS2008
Hi, ext James Sparenberg wrote: On Saturday 29 December 2007 03:29:05 pm Marius Gedminas wrote: Two shell crashes on OS2008. One is reproducible but mostly harmless: $ type /bin/sh segfaults and your session ends. The other is not reproducible: while hitting the Up key to go back in history I suddenly got this: ~ $ pidof *** glibc detected *** -sh: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0004ed40 *** /bin/sh aborts and your session ends. Scary. Marius Gedminas Marius. I can't get the first one to crash mine. it instead lists out the busybox info. As for the second ... I get random crashes form the current xterm (less advanced) version that I can't repeat. More often than not with more than one window open. But the one you can get to work regularly doesn't seem to happen. Also just curious but does anyone know why the clear command wasn't compiled into busybox? Was up until 2008. Perhaps an oversite? Why you need it? clear command comes from ncurses-bin package on Debian along with e.g. terminfo database manipulation programs. ncurses-bin is a Debian essential and clear is also in posix standard so it would probably be good if it would be in the device by default. Busybox package doesn't provide ncurses-bin and from the binaries included into that package Busybox binary could be configured to provided only clear and reset. I'm not sure how nice it would be to have that limited ncurses-bin package in the device... The terminfo database tools shouldn't be necessary there. :-) - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Unlocalised browser when launched from ssh (OS2008)
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 12:44 +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote: Hm. I guess it would be an upstream Gnome/Gtk bug in this case. If it cannot find locale for one of the locale settings, it sets everything to C locale... It should set only the given locale setting to C locale (or to what LC_ALL has if that is set). gtk does if (!setlocale(LC_ALL, )) g_warning (Locale not supported by C library.\n\tUsing the fallback 'C' locale.); On error case (invalid locale) setlocale does nothing -- which practically is same as setting everything to C. As documented in setlocale(3) In any case you should probably use 'run-standalone.sh browser [..]' to start applications from command line. http://linux.die.net/man/3/setlocale char *setlocale(int category, const char *locale); If locale is , each part of the locale that should be modified is set according to the environment variables. The details are implementation dependent. For glibc, first (regardless of category), the environment variable LC_ALL is inspected, next the environment variable with the same name as the category (LC_COLLATE, LC_CTYPE, LC_MESSAGES, LC_MONETARY, LC_NUMERIC, LC_TIME) and finally the environment variable LANG. The first existing environment variable is used. If its value is not a valid locale specification, the locale is unchanged, and setlocale() returns NULL. -- Tommi Komulainen[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Swap space: how is it allocated / released?
On Jan 2, 2008 4:58 AM, Denis DeLaRoca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How's swap space allocated on the internal SD card on IT OS? I thought it was by means of a separate partition but when mounting the SD card on Destop linux system (via USB) only a single 'msdos' partition is shown. You need to open the Memory control panel and check Extend virtual memory. This will create the swap file. -- James Taji http://jamestaji.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: WiFi Browsing Does Not Work OS2008
ext Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have tried for the last 3 days to browse the internet via WiFI. What WiFi Access Point you have? I would like to know at least make and model, but firmware version would be nice to have (because firmware upgrades sometime introduce or fix serious bugs in APs). I initially ran into connection issues (failed to Connect), but was able to overcome these. How did you overcome the connection fail problem? Please be precise as possible. Now I'm able to hold a connection (Connection Manager stays connected). However, any time I try to browse a site, the browser times out. I have successfully connected to 3 different routers and with all I cannot browse the internet. Tried reflashing, recreating the connections, nothing works. I need more information to help you with this. Here are few questions: o What device you have? N800 or N810? o If the previous answer is N800, did you use OS2007 before? Did it work? (That is, has your tablet ever worked with your network?) o What's your network setup? (DHCP, DSL router, WLAN encryption method, IP address of the gateway, network netmask etc.) I also need the output from 'ifconfig -a' and 'route -n' after you have established the connection to your WLAN network. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: MPlayer and Free42 for OS 2008
- Original message - Here is the command line I used to create it: $ mencoder dvd://4 -o the_way_c.avi -srate 44100 -oac copy -ovc lavc [snip] I personally don't know what all those options mean, but I got them from playing with the script tablet-encode. tablet-encode failed, but I adapted its parameters and ran the above command by hand. For instance I put dvd://4 near the beginning myself. What version of tablet-encode and how did it fail? My guess is that the existing audio stream was unplayable and in some weird format, but for some reason, tablet-encode is copying that audio stream. Please feel free to,send me details, or raise a bug in the tablet-encode tracker on garage. TIA, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: WiFi Browsing Does Not Work OS2008
ext Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I read this bug right, it has been fixed in OS2008 by providing the Power Savings Off selection in Advanced Setting for the Connection. I tried this setting and I still have the same issue. Good that you tried that so we can rule out Power Saving problems. BTW, have you ever managed to get WiFi working with your device? I'm just thinking that is this a hardware or a software problem. But if you manage to get the network address using DHCP I doubt this is a hardware issue. Anyone know if utilities that I can use to help determine what the issue is? The best would be to use a wireless sniffer to capture the WLAN packets sent through the air. But that's quite difficult to setup unless you're a Linux hacker. You could also try to use a ethernet sniffer before your gateway, but that's also quite tricky. My guess is that this an IP level problem, but I don't yet have any facts to confirm this. My recommendation is that you change the setting on the internet tablet to use manual IP and then try pinging both from the network to the tablet and from the tablet to the network and send the results here. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: WiFi Browsing Does Not Work OS2008
Thanks for your help, but I have since returned the device (n800) back to the store, convinced I had a hardware problem. I had the same issue with any access point I tried. I even visited a mall and tried a few open hot spots. Same bad results. I did order another N800 , should be arriving in a few days, so I hope to be back with positive results. Chris On Jan 2, 2008 8:06 AM, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have tried for the last 3 days to browse the internet via WiFI. What WiFi Access Point you have? I would like to know at least make and model, but firmware version would be nice to have (because firmware upgrades sometime introduce or fix serious bugs in APs). I initially ran into connection issues (failed to Connect), but was able to overcome these. How did you overcome the connection fail problem? Please be precise as possible. Now I'm able to hold a connection (Connection Manager stays connected). However, any time I try to browse a site, the browser times out. I have successfully connected to 3 different routers and with all I cannot browse the internet. Tried reflashing, recreating the connections, nothing works. I need more information to help you with this. Here are few questions: o What device you have? N800 or N810? o If the previous answer is N800, did you use OS2007 before? Did it work? (That is, has your tablet ever worked with your network?) o What's your network setup? (DHCP, DSL router, WLAN encryption method, IP address of the gateway, network netmask etc.) I also need the output from 'ifconfig -a' and 'route -n' after you have established the connection to your WLAN network. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: WiFi Browsing Does Not Work OS2008
ext Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for your help, but I have since returned the device (n800) back to the store, convinced I had a hardware problem. I had the same issue with any access point I tried. I even visited a mall and tried a few open hot spots. Same bad results. I did order another N800 , should be arriving in a few days, so I hope to be back with positive results. Ok, let's hope for the best. If the new one doesn't work either, ask for help from here. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 11:42:01PM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: Hendrik, Actually ping requires root on all systems. Since in order to do icmp you need to put the nic into a different mode than it runs in normally. The way it is normally done on every other linux distro is to do (as root) chmod u+s /usr/bin/ping (or /bin/ping on busybox enabled systems) This will, yes, set ping as setuid root. If you look at any other Linux you see that they all run ping setuid root. If you do that with /bin/ping on busybox-enabled systems, it will set *all* busybox utils (including /bin/sh) setuid root. Gun. Foot. Safety off. Good luck, Marius Gedminas -- Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. -- David Sawford signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Which scratchbox you used for Maemo?
Hi all, I'm trying to install Maemo but as you see, at first we need to have scratchbox installed already. But there're at least 3 verions of scratchbox: - 1. standard scratchbox: at www.scratchbox.org, for 32-bit environment only - 2. unofficial scratchbox 64-bit: http://scratchbox.org/download/files/sbox-releases/x86_64/ - 3. scratchbox2: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/sbox2 - a new branch of sb, 64-bit support. I'm using Fedora x86_64, and I tried all of them but got no success (got crazy only, hic) - case 1: realize that it's for 32-bit. Then quit. Look like I might have to chroot to install 32-bit on my 64-bit but not try yet. - case 2: it's old stuff. (2005). Don't remember exactly - I was stuck with this problem last week, it was related to qemu problem - case 3: almost successfully. But I couldn't install debian etch successfully (error: gcc: /etch_root/lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by gcc)- trying again and again. Please tell me which scratchbox you're using on the same environment (Fedora 8, AMD 64-bit) for me to go on the right way. Thank you very very much! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Which scratchbox you used for Maemo?
Thank you, Luostarinen Mika! I'm using Nokia N800 Tablet. Fedora + maemo is to simulate. According to you, I should use scratchbox 1.08 ( http://scratchbox.org/download/files/sbox-releases/apophis/tarball), is it right? I still have to use Fedora, and 64-bit. There're also 2 problems to me: 32/64-bit, and Fedora/Ubuntu Look like I have to use chroot to install 32-bit Scratchbox on Fedora 64-bit. I need your help indeed. I get stuck too late with this problem :( Best regards, Jakov On Jan 2, 2008 9:51 PM, Luostarinen Mika (Nokia-M/Helsinki) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, First, you dont use scratchbox-2 unless if you want to use maemo SDK+. Scratchbox-1 is used in maemo chinook SDK and maemo bora SDK. Please tell me which scratchbox you're using on the same environment (Fedora 8, AMD 64-bit) for me to go on the right way. What is the Internet Tablet and the Tablet OS version you want to develop your software? I am not using Fedora. Majority of maemo developer use Ubuntu or Debian. Br, -ML On 1/2/08 4:30 PM, ext Jakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to install Maemo but as you see, at first we need to have scratchbox installed already. But there're at least 3 verions of scratchbox: - 1. standard scratchbox: at www.scratchbox.org, for 32-bit environment only - 2. unofficial scratchbox 64-bit: http://scratchbox.org/download/files/sbox-releases/x86_64/ - 3. scratchbox2: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/sbox2 - a new branch of sb, 64-bit support. I'm using Fedora x86_64, and I tried all of them but got no success (got crazy only, hic) - case 1: realize that it's for 32-bit. Then quit. Look like I might have to chroot to install 32-bit on my 64-bit but not try yet. - case 2: it's old stuff. (2005). Don't remember exactly - I was stuck with this problem last week, it was related to qemu problem - case 3: almost successfully. But I couldn't install debian etch successfully (error: gcc: /etch_root/lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by gcc)- trying again and again. Please tell me which scratchbox you're using on the same environment (Fedora 8, AMD 64-bit) for me to go on the right way. Thank you very very much! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GIMP on n800?
Thomas Armagost wrote: http://kalle.vahlman.googlepages.com/gimp-on-n800.png Is this screenshot a fake? The application seems to project over the useless border area on the right of the screen. I thought hildonized applications couldn't write to that part of the screen? Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GIMP on n800?
Hi, ext Paul Dundas wrote: Thomas Armagost wrote: http://kalle.vahlman.googlepages.com/gimp-on-n800.png Is this screenshot a fake? The application seems to project over the useless border area on the right of the screen. I thought hildonized applications couldn't write to that part of the screen? Based on the screenshot, the Gimp is not Hildonized. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N800 suddenly unable to update
Dear friends, Today when I launched my application manager to check for updates on my N800 (running OS 2007 version 3.2007.10-7), which used to work perfectly, I got a 'unable to refresh list message. Should I worry about this? What causes this? Thanks, Andrei ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 suddenly unable to update
Did you fake in the broken repositories. It looks like they are fixed now. Put the i back in and see if that helps. tim On 01/02/2008 09:14, andrei raevsky wrote: Dear friends, Today when I launched my application manager to check for updates on my N800 (running OS 2007 version 3.2007.10-7), which used to work perfectly, I got a 'unable to refresh list message. Should I worry about this? What causes this? Thanks, Andrei ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
ssh -x screen control
I've got a little problem that I hope someone can help me with. I'm using the n810 with latest firmware. I like to ssh (openssh not dropbear) into my home linux machine and run various apps, etc. I use the command ssh -p [EMAIL PROTECTED] -X I then run commands like so kmail knode etc. When I run apps they all work great especially now that the builtin keyboard is recognized by the remote. However I have one last problem... If I minimize or in anyway move away from the remoted app I can't get back. If I goto the terminal session it is still at the command prompt. I can't find my X session anywhere. Can someone help. tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
OS2008 Video converter
The Video converter on Nokia's website does seem to work well... Do you guys have any Windows-based converter to recommend? I've got some RM VBR videos on my laptop, and I intend to watch some on my N800 on the go. Thanks! p.s. no video at all, only audio works while playing those RM VBR on default Mediaplayer or the ported Mplayer on N800. Josh___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Map applications - N800 OS2008
You are correct. Go into the map app, then the menu, maps, available maps and select and download one. Keep in mind the US west coast map alone is almost 700M tim On 01/02/2008 16:05, Josh Z wrote: I think the map on n800 is empty by default... Do I need to download free maps from somewhere on the web and then copy them to the relevant folder? Would appreciate specifics. Josh ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
