Re: Skype video?

2008-01-17 Thread Tilman Vogel
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Tim Ashman schrieb:
 Hmm, my n810 does flash video..  What am I missing here.

I think, this thread was about using the webcam which can also be done
in flash. Playing back video is a different story.

Tilman
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Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?]

2008-01-17 Thread Johan Helsingius
Matt,

 Why does Thunderbird always send to individuals rather than the list for
 this mailing list? Weird!

Not at all weird, and not in any way Thunderbird-specific. The mailing
list keeps the sender address in the From: field, so responses go
to the original sender. Use Reply All if you want to send to the
whole list too.

Julf

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Re: OT: Mailinglist Reply To All (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?])

2008-01-17 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Tilman Vogel wrote:
 I'd suggest to remove the individual recipients then (like I did now),
 because many people don't like to get individual duplicates on mailing
 list posts.

Is there some reasoning or RFC regarding this? I'm quite ambivalent on 
this and mostly leave people in. I only remove them when the topic 
changes so the original poster may not be interested anymore and also 
try to remove those with familiar names who are frequent to the list so 
I know they won't miss the reply.

Frantisek
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OT: Mailinglist Reply To All (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?])

2008-01-17 Thread Tilman Vogel
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Johan Helsingius schrieb:
 Use Reply All if you want to send to the
 whole list too.

I'd suggest to remove the individual recipients then (like I did now),
because many people don't like to get individual duplicates on mailing
list posts.

Some mail clients have a special Reply to list feature. Thunderbird
also has such an extension but it doesn't work in all versions.

http://alumnit.ca/wiki/?ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension

Tilman


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Re: Skype video?

2008-01-17 Thread Tim Ashman
Oh, I see.  Yes then that would be cool.

tim

On 01/17/2008 01:21, Tilman Vogel wrote:
 Tim Ashman schrieb:
  Hmm, my n810 does flash video..  What am I missing here.

 I think, this thread was about using the webcam which can also be done
 in flash. Playing back video is a different story.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?]

2008-01-17 Thread Tim Ashman
I use kmail, it has a feature where you setup a folder, mark it as a mailing 
list, set it reply to address once, then set a rule to move the messages from 
the inbox to the correct folder then when I use the reply it does the right 
thing.

tim

On 01/17/2008 06:15, Kevin T. Neely wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:09:04AM +, Matt Emson wrote:
  Why does Thunderbird always send to individuals rather than the list for
  this mailing list? Weird!

 It is the way this list is setup.  Thunderbird (and mutt in my case) is
 doing the right thing and replying as the headers specify.  If you want
 to get to the list, hit reply all. (like I did for this message  :)

 K

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?]

2008-01-17 Thread Kevin T. Neely
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:09:04AM +, Matt Emson wrote:
 Why does Thunderbird always send to individuals rather than the list for 
 this mailing list? Weird!

It is the way this list is setup.  Thunderbird (and mutt in my case) is doing 
the right thing and replying as the headers specify.  If you want to get to 
the list, hit reply all. (like I did for this message  :)

K

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Re: OT: Mailinglist Reply To All (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?])

2008-01-17 Thread Tilman Vogel
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Frantisek Dufka schrieb:
 Tilman Vogel wrote:
 I'd suggest to remove the individual recipients then (like I did now),
 because many people don't like to get individual duplicates on mailing
 list posts.
 
 Is there some reasoning or RFC regarding this? I'm quite ambivalent on 
 this and mostly leave people in. I only remove them when the topic 
 changes so the original poster may not be interested anymore and also 
 try to remove those with familiar names who are frequent to the list so 
 I know they won't miss the reply.

None that I knew of. I think it's rather a subject of frequent flaming
on mailing lists. Thus I have given up any strong opinion on this ;-) I
personally prefer not to get duplicates, so I advocate for this a bit.
But I would never really complain either.

Your policy also sounds reasonable to me. I think an RFC were very
beneficial.

Tilman

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Re: How to access the flash rootfs?

2008-01-17 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 09:41:20AM +0100, Frantisek Dufka wrote:
 Marius Gedminas wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:49:06PM +0100, Frantisek Dufka wrote:
  You don't need scratchbox, any linux distribution will do. Follow this 
  guide to unpack and recreate initfs  by Rodrigo Vivi 
  http://labs.vivi.eng.br/blog/?p=29
  
  And here's where it breaks down:
  
sudo modprobe mtdram total_size=65536 erase_size=256
  
  64 megs is not large enough for the OS2008 image.  Anything larger
  causes modprobe mtdram to fail (allocation failed: out of vmalloc space
  - use vmalloc=size to increase size.)
 
 Well this guide is for initfs which is ~2MB large.

Oops!

Yes, I encountered that error when I was looking at the rootfs, not
initfs.  My inattention.

 There are more ways 
 to do it. For rootfs you can use variation of this
 
 mkdir rootfs
 losetup /dev/loop0 rootfs.jffs2 
 
 modprobe mtd 
 
 modprobe mtd_blkdevs 
 
 modprobe mtdblock 
 
 modprobe block2mtd block2mtd=/dev/loop0,131072 
 
 modprobe jffs2 
 
 mount -t jffs2 /dev/loop0 rootfs 

Thanks for the instructions!

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Re: Can't Wifi since loading OS2008

2008-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Barish
Kalle Valo wrote:

 That's strange. Did you reboot the device in the mean time? Also, do
 you remember what channel your AP is configured to?

I'm not sure when the connection started working again, but I did reboot the
N800 and the WRT when I was experiencing the problem.  The WRT has Linksys
firmware. I upgraded the firmware about a year ago.  I had no problem with
the connection for months.  The only thing that changed was the upgrade to
OS2008.  I do not remember what channel the AP is configured to and I am
not at that location now so I can't check.  At my current location I am
also not experiencing any problems.  When I return to my previous location,
I will report if I again experience problems.
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Re: Hard to drag stuff on N800 OS2008 Desktop

2008-01-17 Thread Wayne Fiori
Have you tried using ``Lock touch screen and keys'' ??

Press the power button briefly and select it from the Device Mode menu.
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On Jan 17, 2008 10:50 AM, Russ Wenner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 PS...Of course, If I stick the N800 in my coat pocket and take it back
 out all the icons/windows will have moved all over the place ;-)

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Re: OT: Mailinglist Reply To All (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?])

2008-01-17 Thread Kevin T. Neely
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 12:45:13PM +0100, Tilman Vogel wrote:
 Johan Helsingius schrieb:
  Use Reply All if you want to send to the
  whole list too.
 
 I'd suggest to remove the individual recipients then (like I did now),
 because many people don't like to get individual duplicates on mailing

Ideally, the mail client you use should weed out duplicates for you.  It has 
been many years since I saw a duplicate in my Inbox.

Sometimes I take the time to remove recipients, but mostly that just takes a 
good bit of time, and I hope that they handle it on their end.  Anyway, them 
hitting 'd' is a lot quicker than me editing the headers.  :)

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?]

2008-01-17 Thread Michael R. Head

On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 06:24 -0800, Tim Ashman wrote:
 I use kmail, it has a feature where you setup a folder, mark it as a mailing 
 list, set it reply to address once, then set a rule to move the messages from 
 the inbox to the correct folder then when I use the reply it does the right 
 thing.

With evolution, I just hit Ctrl-L on any message that was sent to a
mailing list anywhere in my mail folders, and the address is set up
correctly.

 tim
 
 On 01/17/2008 06:15, Kevin T. Neely wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:09:04AM +, Matt Emson wrote:
   Why does Thunderbird always send to individuals rather than the list for
   this mailing list? Weird!
 
  It is the way this list is setup.  Thunderbird (and mutt in my case) is
  doing the right thing and replying as the headers specify.  If you want
  to get to the list, hit reply all. (like I did for this message  :)
 
  K
 
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Re: network priority and autoreconnect (OS2008)

2008-01-17 Thread Jonathan Greene
I posted about this exact same issue as it's how the iPhone works and
one of the very cool features of that device.

http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/10/23/maemo-feature-request-connection-switching/

In the comments is a link to the roadmap wishlist -
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/roadmapwishlist/ where I also added it
formally but have not heard anything since then.


On Jan 17, 2008 1:34 PM, Joshua Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am wondering if this is even possible, but is there a way to set up
 priorities (as in wpa_supplicant.conf, for example) for the different
 networking connections (including tethered BT)?  I am getting really sick
 of having to manually reconnect each connection.
 My personal setup:
 Home network: visible SSID, WPA-PSK, reconnects automatically
 Work network: hidden SSID, WPA-PEAP/MS-CHAPv2, does not reconnect
 automatically
 Phone network: HSDPA via BT (ATT), does not connect automatically

 The biggest problem for me is that if I am connected to my phone (say, on
 my commute...) it keeps the phone connection even if the Home wireless
 network is available.  Same is true of the work network, although the work
 network never autoconnects.  The real problem here is it drains my phone
 battery unnecessarily when a WLAN is available.

 I have no problem editing configuration files by hand, but is this even
 possible?  It is really a source of irritation for me.

 I also would rather not _ever_ be prompted to set up a new network - I will
 browse for one when I want to add something to my preferred network list.

 Any help greatly appreciated.

 Rgds,
 Josh

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exec errors

2008-01-17 Thread giskard
hello,

don't know if this is the right place where ask this kind of questions. 

i've built by myself powertop on my n810, but when i try to exec it i
get this error.

Nokia-N810-50-2:/media/mmc2/src/powertop-1.9# ./powertop
-sh: ./powertop: Permission denied

people told me that the mmc partition is mount with the noexec option. i
removed but i get the same error.

Nokia-N810-50-2:/media/mmc2/src/powertop-1.9# mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
/dev/root on /mnt/initfs type jffs2 (ro)
none on /mnt/initfs/proc type proc (rw)
none on /mnt/initfs/sys type sysfs (rw)
none on /mnt/initfs/tmp type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/mtdblock4 on / type jffs2 (rw,rpsize=1024,rpuid=0,rpuid=3)
none on /tmp type tmpfs (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
none on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/mmc2 type vfat
(rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=2,fmask=0133,dmask=,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8)

Nokia-N810-50-2:/media/mmc2/src/powertop-1.9# ./powertop
-sh: ./powertop: Permission denied
Nokia-N810-50-2:/media/mmc2/src/powertop-1.9#   

do you know how i can fix it?

thank you in advance,
riccardo

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Re: Hard to drag stuff on N800 OS2008 Desktop

2008-01-17 Thread Joshua Layne


On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:56:07 -0800, Wayne Fiori [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Have you tried using ``Lock touch screen and keys'' ??
 
 Press the power button briefly and select it from the Device Mode menu.
 --

It would be really nice to be able to lock the applets on the page.  I've
had them scrambled more than once, and they are a PITA to get realigned
properly.

I have an N810 and use the lock button, but somehow I forget occasionally
(or it unlocks itself because it is out to get me)

-josh

 =Wayne
 
 
 
 
 
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 PS...Of course, If I stick the N800 in my coat pocket and take it back
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Re: Hard to drag stuff on N800 OS2008 Desktop

2008-01-17 Thread Russ Wenner
I found that if I click Home  Select applets...  then un-check
the offending applet  OK.  Then repeat the process by re-selecting
the applets I want.  Only then, for a short time, can I drag windows
around. In time they will no longer drag willingly, if a fuss with
them they will drag, but I find it is quicker to do the above
mentioned, but it seems kludgey, perhaps I'm not going about it the
proper way...

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 Have you tried using ``Lock touch screen and keys'' ??

 Press the power button briefly and select it from the Device Mode menu.
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Re: Hard to drag stuff on N800 OS2008 Desktop

2008-01-17 Thread George Farris
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 13:50 -0500, Russ Wenner wrote:
 Is anyone else having trouble dragging icons/windows on their N800
 OS2008 desktop?

Icons?  Man I would love the ability to iconify an app on the desktop.
Surely you didn't mean icons?




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Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?]

2008-01-17 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 11:45:01AM +0100, Johan Helsingius wrote:
 Matt,
 
  Why does Thunderbird always send to individuals rather than the list for
  this mailing list? Weird!
 
 Not at all weird, and not in any way Thunderbird-specific. The mailing
 list keeps the sender address in the From: field, so responses go
 to the original sender. Use Reply All if you want to send to the
 whole list too.

I don't use Thunderbird, but from what I've rad on linux-user, 
thunderbird is broken, and in violation of the applicable standards.  A 
mailer is supposed to have a reply to list option, which is not the 
same as reply to all.  THis feature has been requeted ages ago, but 
last I heard, it's still not implemented.

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OT: Mailinglist Reply To All (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?])

2008-01-17 Thread Peter Flynn
Matt Emson wrote:
 Why does Thunderbird always send to individuals rather than the list for 
 this mailing list? Weird!

It's due to a grotesque misunderstanding.

It's an article of faith among strict mail gurus that replies should 
always go back to the sender, and any variance from this is regarded as 
meddling (see the rant at http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html)

A discussion list (where readers expect replies by default to go back to 
the whole list) should automatically set a Reply-To pointing at the list 
address, unless the sender has included an explicit Reply-To of their own.

A notification/announcement list should set the Reply-To back to the 
sender (again, unless otherwise specified by the sender).

The argument that readers should use Reply-to-all for the purpose of 
sending a reply to the list, or that they should use a mail program with 
a special Reply-to-list is entirely fallacious, and based on the 
assumption that only console mailers like ucb/mail or character-cell 
mailers like elm, pine, or mutt are real mailers and that anyone using 
GUI mailers is inherently in the wrong. The supporters of the 
reply-to-sender default regard adding a Reply-To to the list as 
pandering to the broken mailers of the world (of which there are many).

A normal mailing-list reader should NOT have to make a mental decision 
each time they write a reply: the Reply-To header ought to have been set 
appropriately by the mailing list.

But it won't change. It's up to the owners of mailing lists to set the 
appropriate default at the time the list is set up. All my LISTSERV 
lists, for example, are set appropriately for the type of list involved.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?]

2008-01-17 Thread Tim Ashman
Ok, I just checked in kmail and I can simply hit the L key all by itself to 
reply to the mailing list...  :-)

I think I like the folders because sometimes I keep certain messages around 
and I don't have to move them if I want to keep them.

tim

On 01/17/2008 09:01, Michael R. Head wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 06:24 -0800, Tim Ashman wrote:
  I use kmail, it has a feature where you setup a folder, mark it as a
  mailing list, set it reply to address once, then set a rule to move the
  messages from the inbox to the correct folder then when I use the reply
  it does the right thing.

 With evolution, I just hit Ctrl-L on any message that was sent to a
 mailing list anywhere in my mail folders, and the address is set up
 correctly.

  tim
 
  On 01/17/2008 06:15, Kevin T. Neely wrote:
   On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:09:04AM +, Matt Emson wrote:
Why does Thunderbird always send to individuals rather than the list
for this mailing list? Weird!
  
   It is the way this list is setup.  Thunderbird (and mutt in my case) is
   doing the right thing and replying as the headers specify.  If you
   want to get to the list, hit reply all. (like I did for this message 
   :)
  
   K
 
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Re: OT: Mailinglist Reply To All (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?])

2008-01-17 Thread Mike Lococo
Greetings,

 Why does Thunderbird always send to individuals rather than the
 list for this mailing list? Weird!
 
 It's an article of faith among strict mail gurus that replies should
 always go back to the sender, and any variance from this is regarded
 as meddling (see the rant at
 http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html)

This conversation has been had many times and is:

  a) Not productive, individuals on both sides of the debate
 have firmly made up their minds
  b) Not related to usage of the maemo platform

The basic points have been summarized for newcomers, which is as far as
the discussion need proceed. If you have further comments, please take
the discussion off-list.

Thanks,
Mike Lococo
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Re: OT: Mailinglist Reply To All (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?])

2008-01-17 Thread R. G. Newbury
Peter Flynn wrote:

 A normal mailing-list reader should NOT have to make a mental decision 
 each time they write a reply: the Reply-To header ought to have been set 
 appropriately by the mailing list.
 
 But it won't change. It's up to the owners of mailing lists to set the 
 appropriate default at the time the list is set up. All my LISTSERV 
 lists, for example, are set appropriately for the type of list involved.
 

And THIS list does not have a 'Reply to' header at allHow about it 
maemo-list-admins?

Geoff
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Re: Skype video?

2008-01-17 Thread Ryan Pavlik
Julian Toler wrote:
 I am not too worried about video with Skype (although of course it 
 would be nice!) - what I really miss compared with Desktop Skype is 
 the ability to send SMS text messages. This is a brilliant feature of 
 Skype and saves me a load of cash (I only have a PAYG mobile phone 
 account so SMS messages are comparatively expensive otherwise).
 Now this is one feature which would be a no brainer to add to the N800 
 N810 version of Skype - no excuses about processing power etc.
 Cheers
 J
You might be interested to know that on most mobile phone providers' web 
sites, you can send text messages for free.  Perhaps not as convenient 
as Skype, but since the N8xx has a web browser, it should work just as well.

Good luck!

Ryan
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