Re: Hard to drag stuff on N800 OS2008 Desktop

2008-01-18 Thread Jac Kersing
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Eero Tamminen wrote:

 Make a quick move with the stylus when you start to reposition
 an applet.  After the applet is moving, you can move stylus as
 slow as you want to.  The quick drag in the beginning is needed
 to distinguish between dragging an applet and trying to activate
 something (such as a button) within it.

Eero,

Is there any way to lock the desktop to prevent accidentally moving 
things around? It is probably me being clumsy, but I've unintentionally
moved things around on several occasions. Restoring the layout takes time 
I would rather spend otherwise.

Best regards,

Jac

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Re: Hard to drag stuff on N800 OS2008 Desktop

2008-01-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Jac Kersing wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Eero Tamminen wrote:
 
 Make a quick move with the stylus when you start to reposition
 an applet.  After the applet is moving, you can move stylus as
 slow as you want to.  The quick drag in the beginning is needed
 to distinguish between dragging an applet and trying to activate
 something (such as a button) within it.
 
 Eero,
 
 Is there any way to lock the desktop to prevent accidentally moving 
 things around? It is probably me being clumsy, but I've unintentionally
 moved things around on several occasions. Restoring the layout takes 
 time I would rather spend otherwise.

Not really, but remember to lock the device when you e.g. put it into
pocket or bag.  N810 has separate lock button, on N800 you can press
power key and then select[1] key to lock the keys+touchscreen, unlocking
is done the same way.  This will also save power because then the
display doesn't unnecessarily lit up when the touchscreen or other
keys are accidentally pressed in the pocket/bag.

Disabling the applets that you don't need also helps (if you reboot
after that, you will have minuscule amount of more memory available
for apps too :)).


 -Eero


[1] Select = the middle button in the 5-way rocker.
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Re: Hard to drag stuff on N800 OS2008 Desktop

2008-01-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Russ Wenner wrote:
 I found that if I click Home  Select applets...  then un-check
 the offending applet  OK.  Then repeat the process by re-selecting
 the applets I want.  Only then, for a short time, can I drag windows
 around. In time they will no longer drag willingly, if a fuss with
 them they will drag, but I find it is quicker to do the above
 mentioned, but it seems kludgey, perhaps I'm not going about it the
 proper way...

Make a quick move with the stylus when you start to reposition
an applet.  After the applet is moving, you can move stylus as
slow as you want to.  The quick drag in the beginning is needed
to distinguish between dragging an applet and trying to activate
something (such as a button) within it.


- Eero
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Re: Skype video?

2008-01-18 Thread Julian Toler
On 18/01/2008, Ryan Pavlik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Julian Toler wrote:
  I am not too worried about video with Skype (although of course it
  would be nice!) - what I really miss compared with Desktop Skype is
  the ability to send SMS text messages. snipped


You might be interested to know that on most mobile phone providers' web
 sites, you can send text messages for free.  Perhaps not as convenient
 as Skype, but since the N8xx has a web browser, it should work just as
 well.

 Good luck!

 Ryan


Cannot find free messaging on my service provider's site Virgin Mobile UK. I
am unlikely to change provider simply to use this service. It looks like
some other service providers offer this service - e.g. Orange UK, T-Mobile
etc. - but as I don't have a telephone number with these providers I cannot
register on their websites to use the service! If you know a way around this
minor inconvenience please let me know, or better still, why not post some
web addresses where free messaging is available - I am sure we are all
interested!
Skype is an excellent tool on my desktop - shame it doesn't have this
feature on the M810/N800 version.
Cheers
J
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Re: Skype video?

2008-01-18 Thread Dr Fred C
Hey gang, moaning here on a n8xx mailing list won't get Skype on the 
n8xx.  Please take your moaning to Skype... 

In the meantime -- use Gismo Project.  As far as getting some leverage 
for Skype on the n8xx goes, when you contact Skype, tell them until they 
get Skype (and Skype video) on the n8xx, you'll be promoting moving 
yourself and all of your Skype friends to Gismo Project. 

Julian Toler wrote:
 On 18/01/2008, *Ryan Pavlik* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Julian Toler wrote:
  I am not too worried about video with Skype (although of course it
  would be nice!) - what I really miss compared with Desktop Skype is
  the ability to send SMS text messages. snipped  


 You might be interested to know that on most mobile phone
 providers' web
 sites, you can send text messages for free.  Perhaps not as convenient
 as Skype, but since the N8xx has a web browser, it should work
 just as well.

 Good luck!

 Ryan


 Cannot find free messaging on my service provider's site Virgin Mobile 
 UK. I am unlikely to change provider simply to use this service. It 
 looks like some other service providers offer this service - e.g. 
 Orange UK, T-Mobile etc. - but as I don't have a telephone number with 
 these providers I cannot register on their websites to use the 
 service! If you know a way around this minor inconvenience please let 
 me know, or better still, why not post some web addresses where free 
 messaging is available - I am sure we are all interested!
 Skype is an excellent tool on my desktop - shame it doesn't have this 
 feature on the M810/N800 version.
 Cheers
 J
 

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Re: network priority and autoreconnect (OS2008)

2008-01-18 Thread Jesper Cheetah
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 07:08:27AM +0200, Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Joshua Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The biggest problem for me is that if I am connected to my phone (say, on
  my commute...) it keeps the phone connection even if the Home wireless
  network is available.  Same is true of the work network, although the work
  network never autoconnects.  The real problem here is it drains my phone
  battery unnecessarily when a WLAN is available.
 
  I have no problem editing configuration files by hand, but is this even
  possible?  It is really a source of irritation for me.
 
 Our current software implementation does not support this, not even
 with some tweaking. Sorry.

I believe I have seen wpa_supplicant for the N800 somewhere (probably
OS2007 at that time). Wouldn't that work, with the regular network
selection set to a dummy AP?

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Re: network priority and autoreconnect (OS2008)

2008-01-18 Thread Joshua Layne
Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Joshua Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 The biggest problem for me is that if I am connected to my phone (say, on
 my commute...) it keeps the phone connection even if the Home wireless
 network is available.  Same is true of the work network, although the work
 network never autoconnects.  The real problem here is it drains my phone
 battery unnecessarily when a WLAN is available.

 I have no problem editing configuration files by hand, but is this even
 possible?  It is really a source of irritation for me.
 

 Our current software implementation does not support this, not even
 with some tweaking. Sorry.

   
Hi Kalle,
Thanks for the reply.  Do you know if it is possible to use 
wpa_supplicant (I realize I might have to port it myself), just 
wondering about driver compatibility.  Otherwise, maybe something like 
gnome network manager to wrap it to get support for the BT DUN.

I saw the blog post and the feature request on maemo - any idea of 
whether this is in scope for a future release?

Regards,
Josh
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Re: Skype video?

2008-01-18 Thread Kevin T. Neely
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 09:24:03AM +, Julian Toler wrote:
 Cannot find free messaging on my service provider's site Virgin Mobile UK. I
 am unlikely to change provider simply to use this service. It looks like
 some other service providers offer this service - e.g. Orange UK, T-Mobile

Gizmo offers free outbound-only SMS messaging.  No registration required.

http://gizmosms.com

I wish they'd offer SMS as part of their services, so you could send/receive to 
your contacts as if it were an IM, but apparently that is not here yet.

Another much more limited option is to send to your http://30boxes.com contacts 
that have registered a phone.  This is kind of nice, but of course requires the 
whole social networking buy-in.

hope that helps,
K


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osip2

2008-01-18 Thread Chris Dobbs
All,
I am trying to install osip2 on my scratchbox environment but it wants libc 
=2.6.1 and I seems to have libc ==V2.5.0-osso7
Using libosip2-2_3.0.3-2-1_armel.deb

Will upgrading libc6 cause my environment to break - seem to remember that this 
can cause issues on Intel linux.
I note that.

If anyone can assist in suggesting the most painless route I would be very 
gratefull.
I found an armel port of libc6 on the Debian pkg site and it's for version 2.7
Cheers,
-Chris Dobbs
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Re: OT: Mailinglist Reply To All (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?])

2008-01-18 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:18:36PM -0500, Mike Lococo wrote:
 The basic points have been summarized for newcomers, which is as far as
 the discussion need proceed. If you have further comments, please take
 the discussion off-list.

Exactly.  To take a discussion offlist, you need an unmunged Reply-to 
field if the original poster is sending from a site where he does not 
normally receive mail.  That's what Reply-to is for.

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Re: MMC reported as read only

2008-01-18 Thread Kevin T. Neely
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 08:16:52PM +0100, Frantisek Dufka wrote:

 Yes, extract via tar (tar zxvf kernel-sdhc*gz) and flash kernel image 
 either via Nokia linux flasher over USB (flasher-3.0 -f -k zImage -R) or 
 if you don't have linux PC you can flash directly from the device via my 
 kernel flasher script http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#kernelflasher

I have continued my fight with the read-only MMC card.
Thanks to the above, I was able to flash the kernel with the MMC patches.  For 
some reaon, i couldn't get it done with the Linux flasher, but I had no problem 
using the above to do it directly on the device.  Thank you!

 If you have Kingston MMC 2GB card the 48MHz kernel should work and give 
 you best performance.

Part of my problem is that this might not be a real Kingston card.  RS-MMC is 
pretty much non-existent in stores, so I purchased a Hong Kong special on eBay. 
 On its own, it came back to a read/write state, but with only 1GB reporting.  
Then, I managed to put it back to read-only by downloading some mp3s to the 
card.

I put it in my linux laptop, and reformatted the card.  I think my command was:

mkdosfs -c -F 32 /dev/[mmcdevice]

this worked just fine, but again was only 1GB, not 2.  I put it in my 770 
(running the patched 4.2007.46-3) and it seemed to be working fine, but when 
gpodder had downloaded about 1/2 of 3 podcasts (average of 12MB each) gpodder 
quit because the card had gone read-only.  So, now I have the behavior pre and 
post kernel patch.

I am ready to blame the card, however, using a usb-based card reader, I was 
able to copy abotu 500MB of data to it last night, using both Linux and 
Windows.  So, the best I can tell, I have a decently-working 1GB rs-mmc card.

Until now, flash cards had just worked for me, so I am treading in unfamiliar 
water, and would appreciate any help or pointers you can give.  Also, is there 
a way to force the format to 2GB?  It might be interesting to try.

thank you in advance,
Kevin


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Re: Hard to drag stuff on N800 OS2008 Desktop

2008-01-18 Thread Russ Wenner
THANK YOU!

That was the *unknown* trick.  I was trying to drag too slowly.

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On Jan 18, 2008 3:04 AM, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 ext Russ Wenner wrote:
  I found that if I click Home  Select applets...  then un-check
  the offending applet  OK.  Then repeat the process by re-selecting
  the applets I want.  Only then, for a short time, can I drag windows
  around. In time they will no longer drag willingly, if a fuss with
  them they will drag, but I find it is quicker to do the above
  mentioned, but it seems kludgey, perhaps I'm not going about it the
  proper way...

 Make a quick move with the stylus when you start to reposition
 an applet.  After the applet is moving, you can move stylus as
 slow as you want to.  The quick drag in the beginning is needed
 to distinguish between dragging an applet and trying to activate
 something (such as a button) within it.


 - Eero
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Re: Skype video?

2008-01-18 Thread Julian Toler

 snipped Another much more limited option is to send to your
 http://30boxes.com contacts that have registered a phone.  This is kind of
 nice, but of course requires the whole social networking buy-in.
 /snipped

Unfortunately I am in the UK and 30boxes does not send sms messages to
Virgin Mobile UK. Doh (it would have been a bit far fetched to use this as a
technique though ;-)

The Gizmo sms service on the Gizmo website - looks interesting. I am a bit
worried there might be a charge for the recipients for receiving an sms sent
using this method. I will send one to myself as a guinea-pig to check.
Cheers
J
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Gizmo integration (was: Re: Skype video?

2008-01-18 Thread Peter Flynn
Kevin T. Neely wrote:
[...]
 I wish they'd offer SMS as part of their services, so you could
 send/receive to your contacts as if it were an IM, but apparently
 that is not here yet.

Does anyone know how to (if) I can make Gizmo use my GPE Contacts
as its contacts list?

///Peter
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