Re: Windows Flasher

2008-04-22 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Jonathan Herriott wrote:
> I'm looking for a flasher as flexible as the linux version, but all
> I've found is:
> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithWindows/
> 
> Is there a windows command-line version that is just as flexible as
> the linux flasher?

No, there isn't. Easiest would be to port http://www.nopcode.org/0x/ 
to Windows but so far nobody did it. Should be relatively easy with 
mingw or cygwin and libusb for Windows.

You can also use the linux version from VMWare running linux in virtual 
machine (or boot some live CD directly).

Frantisek
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Re: Windows Flasher

2008-04-22 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 18:34 -0700, ext Jonathan Herriott wrote:
> I'm looking for a flasher as flexible as the linux version, but all
> I've found is:
> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithWindows/
> 
> Is there a windows command-line version that is just as flexible as
> the linux flasher?

I don't expect the windows flasher to have been designed with power
users / hackers in mind. Why bother with windows?


-- 
Cheers, Igor

---

Igor Stoppa
Next Generation Software
Nokia Devices R&D - Helsinki
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Re: Wireless Status Icons

2008-04-22 Thread Patrik Flykt

Hi,

On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 21:21 +0100, ext Leon Stringer wrote:
> wireless status icon had a dot above the normal symbol. Can anyone tell 
> me what this means?

The dot above the normal symbol mean a WLAN ad-hoc network. If the
device can't get a IP address with DHCP, it will fall back to
autoconfigured link-local IPv4 addresses. When a link-local address is
assigned, there won't be any default route set up, meaning no
connectivity anywhere except that link-local network.

> Oddly, when I went to try again, the battery was dead I'm not sure if 
> that's related.

No, that's not related except that WLAN ad-hoc mode consumes more power
and thus drains battery faster.

Cheers,

Patrik

-- 
Patrik Flykt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: gpe contacts import

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Mark Haury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jonathan Markevich wrote:
>  > Strong words, 
>
>  Yeah, I apologize about that to the innocent bystanders on the list.
>  However, that insulting, sarcastic attitude of many developers and
>  "experts" gets very old very quickly, especially when one is bending
>  over backwards to try to help.

Way to bite the hand that feeds you. Developers and "experts" are not
your slaves and have priorities and processes of their own. If your
goal is to have their priorities align better with your priorities,
verbally abusing them is not a sound tactic. I think you may have just
taken the express route to people's "ignore list".

/Mike
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Re: gpe contacts import

2008-04-22 Thread Mark Haury
Jonathan Markevich wrote:
> Strong words, 

Yeah, I apologize about that to the innocent bystanders on the list. 
However, that insulting, sarcastic attitude of many developers and 
"experts" gets very old very quickly, especially when one is bending 
over backwards to try to help.

Mark
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Re: gpe contacts import

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathan Markevich
Strong words, but I agree with the intent.  I am recently rather annoyed
with forum software that requires you to register to *read or search* the
posts.  Wha??  Forget it. I'll not bother with the product these days
instead.

60 seconds to report a bug?  Maybe... but it's only 10 seconds to uninstall
the program and move on.  I do appreciate you're doing *something*, and if I
had the resources I'd do something too, but open source needs to be really
open.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
> >  It worked for me: I took the time to actually try it before sending the
> email.
> >  I guess I hoped you would take a similar 60 seconds to log the bug
> report.
> >  But if it isn't bothering you enough to take the time to report the bug
> with
> >  a test case to reproduce it I don't suppose anyone is going to spend
> time
> >  trying to guess how to reproduce it.
> >
>
> ...and all the other people having the same problem as me will end up
> dumping gpe just like me. I (and most other people) have better ways
> to spend my time than logging onto a multitude of different Web sites
> just to tell people how worthless their apps are. Gpe is just one of
> many apps that I've tried. I'll just stick with what works, and dump
> what doesn't.
>
> You're missing the most important point: if the *process* of
> submitting bugs weren't such a PITA, more people would do it.
>
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Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems (was: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions)

2008-04-22 Thread Norman Ramsey
 > Don't just stew, vote for the bug here:
 > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2850 Let Nokia know this is happening
 > to more people and you're not pleased.  I can't believe we have only 5 votes
 > for this killer bug.

Thank you so much for the pointer.  I have tried and failed to vote
for this bug.  Perhaps my experience will explain why it has received
so few votes:

  1. Voting requires an account on yet another bugzilla.  I overcome
 my annoyance and inertia and apply for an account.
  2. Applying for an account sends a challenge message to my email
 address.
  3. My employer's email server runs amavisd antivirus software, which
 misidentifies the challenge as a virus and refuses to deliver it.
  4. I cannot vote.

 > There is a possible workaround too - turn on your bluetooth icon in the
 > taskbar.  Leave it on... It may not be a 100% cure but it seems to help a
 > lot for most people.

My bluetooth icon is always on; no luck there, I'm afraid.
I've also tried turning it off and on again.


Norman
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Re: OS 2008 Bluetooth keyboard problems

2008-04-22 Thread Norman Ramsey
 > >   1. Based on random criteria I haven't been able to figure out, the
 > >  Bluetooth keyboard sometimes activates the word-completion
 > >  feature ...
 > > 
 > >   2. THE KILLER: Once I have connected a bluetooth keyboard, the
 > >  on-screen stylus keyboard and thumb keyboard no longer work
 > 
 > Which bug(s) did you report on these issues?

None.  On average I file about 20 bug reports a month.  I have a
backlog.  Debian bugs get highest priority because they are easiest to
report.  Bugzilla bugs get lowest priority because they often require
a challenge/response in order to report a bug, I must remember a
password, and I have to use the mouse, which hurts my hands.

If you want bug reports, make bugs easy to report!


Norman
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Windows Flasher

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathan Herriott
I'm looking for a flasher as flexible as the linux version, but all
I've found is:
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithWindows/

Is there a windows command-line version that is just as flexible as
the linux flasher?
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Re: gpe contacts import

2008-04-22 Thread Mark
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  It worked for me: I took the time to actually try it before sending the 
> email.
>  I guess I hoped you would take a similar 60 seconds to log the bug report.
>  But if it isn't bothering you enough to take the time to report the bug with
>  a test case to reproduce it I don't suppose anyone is going to spend time
>  trying to guess how to reproduce it.
>

...and all the other people having the same problem as me will end up
dumping gpe just like me. I (and most other people) have better ways
to spend my time than logging onto a multitude of different Web sites
just to tell people how worthless their apps are. Gpe is just one of
many apps that I've tried. I'll just stick with what works, and dump
what doesn't.

You're missing the most important point: if the *process* of
submitting bugs weren't such a PITA, more people would do it.

I went through a great deal of effort and spent a good deal of time
going out of my way to install AbiWord on my desktop because one
developer on this list (with an attitude just like yours) demanded
that I submit a bug. After I went to all that trouble, AbiWord is
still completely unusable for me, and yet they had the nerve to
announce the bug "solved" and are doing exactly nothing about it.
After an experience like that, no, I'm not going to bother again. Not
with AbiWord, and not with you. You know there's a problem. You can
choose to deal with it, or you can cop an attitude and demand that
other people deal with it for you. One of those choices is a lot more
effective than the other. You figure out which.

My mother has a phrase for your attitude: "you're cutting off your
nose to spite your face."

The fundamental error in your logic is that you think your time (and
effort) is more valuable than mine. It isn't. If you don't have time
to test your own product with different scenarios, then why do you
think I have time to report dozens of different bugs to different
developers? You're worse than Micro$oft...

Mark
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Re: gpe contacts import

2008-04-22 Thread lakestevensdental
Ditto here.  At least when there's wifi access, you can use Gmail for a 
PIM of sorts.  It would be nice to have a platform independent software 
app that synced with Gmail to coordinate everything. 
>>  > I wish there were a usable PIM for the Internet Tablets. I've tried
>>  > the gpe suite, and it will only import a single vCard at a time, and
>>  > that's an extreme PITA. Gpe won't import csv files at all.
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Re: gpe contacts import

2008-04-22 Thread Graham Cobb
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 20:32:25 Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  gpe-contacts -i 
> >
> >  or the Tools->Import menu entry
> >
> >  should import a multiple-entry vCard.  If it doesn't work for you please
> >  report a bug in the GPE bugzilla (http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/).
> >
> >  Graham
>
> It doesn't work. I tried that many times, but the import only worked
> with vCard files containing a single entry. Even two entries would
> result in failure.

It worked for me: I took the time to actually try it before sending the email.  
I guess I hoped you would take a similar 60 seconds to log the bug report.  
But if it isn't bothering you enough to take the time to report the bug with 
a test case to reproduce it I don't suppose anyone is going to spend time 
trying to guess how to reproduce it.

If you wanted a workround, it would also be very easy to create a script which 
takes a multiple entry vCard and splits it into individual files and then 
imports those (or which prefixes each BEGIN:VCARD line with ADD VCARD , adds 
QUIT at the end and feeds it to gpesyncd).  But I guess those are too much 
trouble as well.  Easier to spend time trying to make a Palm app work.

Graham
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Re: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Mark
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are running from the launcher, it will probably be /home/user/.gvm
> If you're running as root, you might have created it in /root/.gvm - I
> really don't know where else it could be?
>
> Try running this in a terminal:
>  find / -name gvm.store
> You should find something that way... That's the brute force way :)
>

Let me clarify: that directory and file are there when Garnet VM is
installed... but not there when it's been uninstalled. Therefore,
regardless of that directory/file's existance or function, it can't be
responsible for containing the settings or data that persist when it's
uninstalled. The offending files have to be somewhere that still
exists even when the app doesn't.

However, thanks for that command line. It will be very useful in other
situations. :-)

Mark
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RE: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
>> 2) No serious PIM on the platform.  GPE is "conceptware".  It doesn't
even handle alarms acceptably.  No icons for events.  No categories in todo.
Sync through erminig is a great hack but a nasty implementation.
>> Gene Cash developed some scripts in python that are better, but still
miles from a good Palm PIM, and kinda slow.  He had trouble installing
OS2008 so abandoned all the OS2008 users.  Another great hack, of >> course,
but not professional at all.

 

I forgot. J I've become used to using GPE.  Last year I posted a few issues
such as categories aren't sorted, and there's no real way to accurately sort
contacts (tried using 'Name:' for people and 'Company' for business'
thinking that 'Name' would sort by last name (assuming last name is the last
entry) while Company would sort by first name (assuming it's the first
entry) but that doesn't seem to be the case).  Other than that, I've come to
depend upon GPE (todo, contacts, and calendar).

 

Dr. Nicholas Shaw

MAJ, USA Retired

 

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RE: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
>> 1) Access is running a horrible beta program.  It's "teaseware".  No user
feedback, no developer feedback.  No hint of future support.  No
documentation.



I totally agree.  I keep wondering when Access is going to go from "horrible
beta" to reliable tool.  I keep sending in my issues with installed software
and never get anything back except a thank you and with no subsequent betas
being releases, there's no way to know if Access is even working on Garnet.
It's a bit frustrating and I agree it's "teaseware".  There's great
potential here though.

 

Nick.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jonathan Markevich
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:15
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
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Wireless Status Icons

2008-04-22 Thread Leon Stringer
Hi,

I tried to join a public Wi-Fi network today on my N810. Although it 
seemed to join OK, I couldn't browse the web. I then noticed that the 
wireless status icon had a dot above the normal symbol. Can anyone tell 
me what this means?

Oddly, when I went to try again, the battery was dead I'm not sure if 
that's related.

(I hope it's acceptable to post these sort of questions here?)

Thanks in advance,

Leon...
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Re: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathan Markevich
If you are running from the launcher, it will probably be /home/user/.gvm
If you're running as root, you might have created it in /root/.gvm - I
really don't know where else it could be?

Try running this in a terminal:
find / -name gvm.store
You should find something that way... That's the brute force way :)

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Markevich
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > Note that it is a hidden directory - check with emelFM2 and tap the big
> "H"
> > on the toolbar to see it.
> >
>
> Nope, it's not there at all. The offending file(s) have to be somewhere
> else.
>
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Re: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Mark
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Markevich
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note that it is a hidden directory - check with emelFM2 and tap the big "H"
> on the toolbar to see it.
>

Nope, it's not there at all. The offending file(s) have to be somewhere else.

Mark
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gpe contacts import

2008-04-22 Thread Mark
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 April 2008 16:26:30 Mark wrote:
>  > The Garnet VM is of no use to me if I can't use it to access my Palm
>  > address book. (That's also my #1 gripe with the Nokia tablet, by the
>  > way - there's yet to be any app for it that can sucessfully import my
>  > contacts in *any* format, including multiple-entry vCard and .csv.)
>  > I wish there were a usable PIM for the Internet Tablets. I've tried
>  > the gpe suite, and it will only import a single vCard at a time, and
>  > that's an extreme PITA. Gpe won't import csv files at all. I could
>  > retype all the entries just as easily, but since I have hundreds of
>  > entries that's not going to happen.
>
>  gpe-contacts -i 
>
>  or the Tools->Import menu entry
>
>  should import a multiple-entry vCard.  If it doesn't work for you please
>  report a bug in the GPE bugzilla (http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/).
>
>  Graham
>
It doesn't work. I tried that many times, but the import only worked
with vCard files containing a single entry. Even two entries would
result in failure.

I'm sick of creating accounts and entering bugs in zillions of
different bugzillas. If they would let me enter a bug without having
to set up an account, then fine. I don't mind entering my email
address with a bug or comment, but as it is, no thanks. Making it a
hassle to submit bugs is a good way to ensure that few people do it.
Once I enter a bug on the Web site (*without* having to actually
create an account), I should be automatically updated by email and be
able to simply "reply" with my email client to make updates or respond
to questions. The current bugzilla process is a huge PITA when one is
dealing with many different apps at once.

Mark
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Fennec

2008-04-22 Thread Mark
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Michael Wiktowy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I did run into the same issue. But only with a few sites and not all
>  of them. I never drew the connection between my problems and
>  installing/uninstalling fennec. I guess it was the sites that I
>  visited using fennec that got their settings clobbered in MicroB. I
>  will try to delete and remake the stored passwords and see it that
>  helps.
>
YMMV, but that didn't help in my case. I tried more than once.

Part of the problem is that MicroB is just too stripped down. I fully
understand the need/desire to save space, but there are quite a few
settings and options that should not have been dropped.

Hopefully, the release version of fennec will not only be fully
functional, but will replace MicroB completely in some future version
of ITOS.

Mark
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Re: Can't become root :-(

2008-04-22 Thread Mark
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Michael Wiktowy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I did run into the same issue. But only with a few sites and not all
>  of them. I never drew the connection between my problems and
>  installing/uninstalling fennec. I guess it was the sites that I
>  visited using fennec that got their settings clobbered in MicroB. I
>  will try to delete and remake the stored passwords and see it that
>  helps.
>
>  Not to be unsympathetic (because I am and believe that this sort of
>  thing shouldn't happen), but if you are installing something as raw as
>  fennec, you are living out on the bleeding edge. Expect to be cut once
>  in a while.

Of course you're right, but note that I wasn't particularly
complaining about the damage that fennec caused, I only made
observations about its effects. The *real* problems I was dealing with
were totally unrelated to fennec. It was a reflash and *attempted
restore* that caused the major headaches. Those problems are a direct
result of the implementation of the IT OS.

>
>  I don't recall warnings to that effect on the fennec installation.
>  Just the default warning about third-party apps which everyone has
>  been trained to ignore since you can't install much without that
>  popping up.
>
If MicroB and a few of the other built-in apps were separately
(un)installable packages, it would make situations like mine much less
serious.

>  Having said that, the warning is sound. If you install stuff from
>  third-party repos, you have to accept some responsibility of breakage.
>  The QA that goes on in most of the repos needs to improve but for now
>  you have to be aware that it is minimal.
>
>  /Mike
>
I'm perfectly willing to accept the consequences of my actions.
However, when certain consequences are caused not by my actions but by
poor OS implementation, I do get a bit upset. If I installed FF3 beta
on Ubuntu, it would not require a complete OS reinstall (and all the
other programs) in order to recover from any problem that it may
cause, and I don't have that idiotic root permission issue to deal
with in any event.

Mark
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Re: Failure Getting Kernel Source

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathan Herriott
The following line usually doesn't appear when I try to do an apt-get update:

>  qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting

It's the rest of the lines I'm trying to fix.  I tried putting in the
IP address instead of the hostname, but that didn't make any
difference.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Jonathan Herriott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  I'm trying to get the kernel source through scratchbox.  I installed
>  scratchbox according to the directions at:
>
>  http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/4.0/INSTALL.txt
>
>  Then I went to follow the directions here:
>
>  
> http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/kernel_guide_for_maemo.html
>
>  When I go to do the Getting Kernel Sources portion of the how-to, The
>  "apt-get update" fails with the following:
>
>  [sbox-MaemoKernel: ~] > apt-get update
>  qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting
>  Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook Release.gpg
>   Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  Ign http://repository.maemo.org chinook Release
>  Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Packages
>   Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/non-free Packages
>   Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Sources
>   Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/non-free Sources
>   Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting
>  Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/Release.gpg
>  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  Failed to fetch
>  http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz
>   Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  Failed to fetch
>  http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/non-free/binary-armel/Packages.gz
>   Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  Failed to fetch
>  http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/free/source/Sources.gz
>  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  Failed to fetch
>  http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/non-free/source/Sources.gz
>  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
>  Reading package lists... Done
>  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://repository.maemo.org
>  chinook/free Packages
>  
> (/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_dists_chinook_free_binary-armel_Packages)
>  - stat (2 No such file or directory)
>  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://repository.maemo.org
>  chinook/non-free Packages
>  
> (/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_dists_chinook_non-free_binary-armel_Packages)
>  - stat (2 No such file or directory)
>  W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
>  E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
>  ones used instead.
>
>  Any idea how to fix this issue?
>
>  Thanks,
>  Jonathan Herriott
>
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Failure Getting Kernel Source

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathan Herriott
Hi,

I'm trying to get the kernel source through scratchbox.  I installed
scratchbox according to the directions at:

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/4.0/INSTALL.txt

Then I went to follow the directions here:

http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/kernel_guide_for_maemo.html

When I go to do the Getting Kernel Sources portion of the how-to, The
"apt-get update" fails with the following:

[sbox-MaemoKernel: ~] > apt-get update
qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting
Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook Release.gpg
  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
Ign http://repository.maemo.org chinook Release
Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Packages
  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/non-free Packages
  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free Sources
  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/non-free Sources
  Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting
Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/Release.gpg
Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz
 Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/non-free/binary-armel/Packages.gz
 Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/free/source/Sources.gz
Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/non-free/source/Sources.gz
Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://repository.maemo.org
chinook/free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_dists_chinook_free_binary-armel_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://repository.maemo.org
chinook/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_dists_chinook_non-free_binary-armel_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.

Any idea how to fix this issue?

Thanks,
Jonathan Herriott
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Re: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Graham Cobb
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 16:26:30 Mark wrote:
> The Garnet VM is of no use to me if I can't use it to access my Palm
> address book. (That's also my #1 gripe with the Nokia tablet, by the
> way - there's yet to be any app for it that can sucessfully import my
> contacts in *any* format, including multiple-entry vCard and .csv.)
> I wish there were a usable PIM for the Internet Tablets. I've tried
> the gpe suite, and it will only import a single vCard at a time, and
> that's an extreme PITA. Gpe won't import csv files at all. I could
> retype all the entries just as easily, but since I have hundreds of
> entries that's not going to happen.

gpe-contacts -i 

or the Tools->Import menu entry

should import a multiple-entry vCard.  If it doesn't work for you please 
report a bug in the GPE bugzilla (http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/).

Graham
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Re: Can't become root :-(

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I made the mistake of trying fennec on my N800. *BIG* mistake! Not
>  only was it completely unusable without a hardware keyboard, it
>  screwed up MicroB as well. Without access to settings in fennec, I
>  could no longer access any web functions that require javascript. It
>  also screwed up the login memory function - now I have to fill in the
>  username manually, even though I've already chosen it out of the list,
>  before it will fill in the password, thereby defeating the whole
>  purpose of that function. (Through all this, the settings in the
>  dialogs in MicroB remained the same, although I did try changing them
>  and then changing them back to see if that would reset things.)

I did run into the same issue. But only with a few sites and not all
of them. I never drew the connection between my problems and
installing/uninstalling fennec. I guess it was the sites that I
visited using fennec that got their settings clobbered in MicroB. I
will try to delete and remake the stored passwords and see it that
helps.

Not to be unsympathetic (because I am and believe that this sort of
thing shouldn't happen), but if you are installing something as raw as
fennec, you are living out on the bleeding edge. Expect to be cut once
in a while.

I don't recall warnings to that effect on the fennec installation.
Just the default warning about third-party apps which everyone has
been trained to ignore since you can't install much without that
popping up.

Having said that, the warning is sound. If you install stuff from
third-party repos, you have to accept some responsibility of breakage.
The QA that goes on in most of the repos needs to improve but for now
you have to be aware that it is minimal.

/Mike
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Re: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Tony Green
On Tuesday 22 Apr 2008, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Markevich
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It's contained all in one big file in the /home/user/.gvm/ folder called
> > gvm.store. you can't really access it easily.  It could be a loopback
> > device, but even if it is, they haven't said anything about what 
filesystem
> > is on there.
> >
> This directory doesn't seem to exist on my device. It has to be
> storing data somewhere else that doesn't get deleted when the app is
> uninstalled. Otherwise, an uninstall and reinstall should bring it
> back to working order.

Not necessarily. If the package is just removed (dpkg -r "packagename"), 
configuration files are left in place. If the package is subsequently 
re-installed, dpkg assumes those files will still be there so doesn't 
re-install them. To be certain that the next re-install will definitely 
install config files you need to purge the package (dpkg -P "packagename").

I don't know for certain which option the application manager uses, but I have 
a feeling it's only remove rather than purge.



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Re: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathan Markevich
Note that it is a hidden directory - check with emelFM2 and tap the big "H"
on the toolbar to see it.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Markevich
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > It's contained all in one big file in the /home/user/.gvm/ folder called
> > gvm.store. you can't really access it easily.  It could be a loopback
> > device, but even if it is, they haven't said anything about what
> filesystem
> > is on there.
> >
> This directory doesn't seem to exist on my device. It has to be
> storing data somewhere else that doesn't get deleted when the app is
> uninstalled. Otherwise, an uninstall and reinstall should bring it
> back to working order.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Mark
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Markevich
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's contained all in one big file in the /home/user/.gvm/ folder called
> gvm.store. you can't really access it easily.  It could be a loopback
> device, but even if it is, they haven't said anything about what filesystem
> is on there.
>
This directory doesn't seem to exist on my device. It has to be
storing data somewhere else that doesn't get deleted when the app is
uninstalled. Otherwise, an uninstall and reinstall should bring it
back to working order.

Mark
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Re: Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathan Markevich
It's contained all in one big file in the /home/user/.gvm/ folder called
gvm.store. you can't really access it easily.  It could be a loopback
device, but even if it is, they haven't said anything about what filesystem
is on there.

So there are several very valid complaints here:
1) Access is running a horrible beta program.  It's "teaseware".  No user
feedback, no developer feedback.  No hint of future support.  No
documentation.

2) No serious PIM on the platform.  GPE is "conceptware".  It doesn't even
handle alarms acceptably.  No icons for events.  No categories in todo.
Sync through erminig is a great hack but a nasty implementation.
Gene Cash developed some scripts in python that are better, but still miles
from a good Palm PIM, and kinda slow.  He had trouble installing OS2008 so
abandoned all the OS2008 users.  Another great hack, of course, but not
professional at all.

3) No serious contact app.  GPE contacts is not bad for accessing, but
insanity to try and format things just so so that it figures out first and
last names.  Is it really that hard to put in 2 fields for that?  Nothing is
integrated with anything else.  Skype and Gizmo are given huge prominence,
and have no connection with the system contacts list.  At least the Google
Talk client has some kind of integration...

I've pretty much given up using the tablet for PIM use for now.  I'd pay
good money for something like Pocket Informant, if they ported it. You're
almost better off getting the smallest Palm handheld you can find and
carrying that alongside.

4) Data exchange is buggy across the board.  gpesyncd can do it, but you
have to fuss with your file for a long time before it's happy.  Check the
ITT forums for some people that have done it, in a few different ways.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anybody know where the Garnet VM keeps its user files? I can't
> get it to import any of  my files from my Palm device, and after a
> "successful" hotsync, the VM won't launch at all, even after
> uninstalling and reinstalling the Garnet VM. There's obviously
> something incompatible in my files, but I can't find out what without
> being able to try my files one at a time, and the Garnet launcher
> won't allow me to install or otherwise access any of my Palm databases
> or other user files, only applications.
> The Access Web site isn't any help, and it won't even let me submit a
> compatibility report. I've tried manually searching my N800's
> directories with emelFM2, but I'm not finding anything that looks like
> Palm files, and the "Search" app is just as worthless as the built-in
> file manager because it won't search the whole file system and doesn't
> show the path to files.
> The Garnet VM is of no use to me if I can't use it to access my Palm
> address book. (That's also my #1 gripe with the Nokia tablet, by the
> way - there's yet to be any app for it that can sucessfully import my
> contacts in *any* format, including multiple-entry vCard and .csv.)
> I wish there were a usable PIM for the Internet Tablets. I've tried
> the gpe suite, and it will only import a single vCard at a time, and
> that's an extreme PITA. Gpe won't import csv files at all. I could
> retype all the entries just as easily, but since I have hundreds of
> entries that's not going to happen.
> Mark
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Re: Can't become root :-(

2008-04-22 Thread Mark
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:28 AM, sebastian maemo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Mark. It's very easy to avoid your problem.
>
> Have a look at the warning message:
>
> " Offending key in /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts:5 "
>
> If you edit the file "/home/user/.ssh/known_hosts" and delete the 5th line,
> then your problem will be solved. You don't need to be root to do that...
>
> Salut,
> Sebas.
>
That's good to know for future reference. Unfortunately, that wasn't
the whole problem. It kept choking on the restore anyway, so even with
the root problem solved I still would have had to reinstall most
everything by hand anyway. Doing it all from scratch was a PITA, but
maybe my system is a little cleaner now. I left off a bunch of stuff
that I really wasn't using and didn't need.

Mark
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Garnet VM & PIM

2008-04-22 Thread Mark
Does anybody know where the Garnet VM keeps its user files? I can't
get it to import any of  my files from my Palm device, and after a
"successful" hotsync, the VM won't launch at all, even after
uninstalling and reinstalling the Garnet VM. There's obviously
something incompatible in my files, but I can't find out what without
being able to try my files one at a time, and the Garnet launcher
won't allow me to install or otherwise access any of my Palm databases
or other user files, only applications.
The Access Web site isn't any help, and it won't even let me submit a
compatibility report. I've tried manually searching my N800's
directories with emelFM2, but I'm not finding anything that looks like
Palm files, and the "Search" app is just as worthless as the built-in
file manager because it won't search the whole file system and doesn't
show the path to files.
The Garnet VM is of no use to me if I can't use it to access my Palm
address book. (That's also my #1 gripe with the Nokia tablet, by the
way - there's yet to be any app for it that can sucessfully import my
contacts in *any* format, including multiple-entry vCard and .csv.)
I wish there were a usable PIM for the Internet Tablets. I've tried
the gpe suite, and it will only import a single vCard at a time, and
that's an extreme PITA. Gpe won't import csv files at all. I could
retype all the entries just as easily, but since I have hundreds of
entries that's not going to happen.
Mark
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Re: Can't become root :-(

2008-04-22 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi Mark. It's very easy to avoid your problem.

Have a look at the warning message:
" Offending key in /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts:5 "

If you edit the file "/home/user/.ssh/known_hosts" and delete the 5th line,
then your problem will be solved. You don't need to be root to do that...

Salut,
Sebas.

2008/4/21 Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Thanks for the suggestions, but many of them were chicken-and egg
> problems, and I had already tried all the "become root" methods on
> maemo.org.
>
> My previous upgrade from OS2008-1 to OS2008-2 had gone painlessly,
> including restoring all the settings and apps. It's beyond me why the
> restore choked when I was only reflashing the exact same OS version.
>
> Anyway, I finally just reflashed again and restored everything the
> hard, slow way, by doing it one thing at a time. Huge PITA, but at
> least I'm back in business.
>
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