Re: Lock, sleep, power-down
Kevin T Neely twisted the bytes to say: Kevin On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:07:49PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: One thing I know happens now is that touching the screen turns on the backlight while locked. So sitting in the case in my bag may be turning Kevin That shouln't happen. Touching the screen should no bring the Kevin backlight up. However, hitting one of the hard buttons ought to Kevin bring it up, so the device can show you how to unlock it. I usually lock the keys and screen of my N800. When the Alarm clock application is triggered the screen turns on (a good thing), but if it is not attended the screen stays on until the battery dies! (bad thing) Is this a bug in the alarm software? --daniel -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Maemo IU locking up
Hi,
ext Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:26:56PM -0400, Torsten Hoefler wrote:
I am running the newest OS2008 on a N810. And I have problems with the
OS (I guess). The IU locks up from time to time with 100% CPU load (the
CPU load applet shows full system load) and pretty much stops
responding. I can not open any windows anymore (it just draws the white
background after a delay of 30 seconds but no widgets).
This happens from time to time (after several hours) also when I don't
use the device (also in offline mode), i.e., it's just sitting around
doing nothing. Something seems to use the CPU extensively because the
battery is drained quickly (2-3hrs) after it starts.
I tried to debug via ssh, and see a constant system load 2 but no
process besides maemo-launcher consuming about 20% (why does this
process run all the time? What does it do?). I also see Xomap from time
to time (what does this do?). It looks like top (running as root) is not
showing all the processes? Is this possible?
I've noticed that the kernel itself sometimes uses a lot of CPU to
perform JFFS2 garbage collection, a while after you write/delete a lot
of files. If I'm not mistaken, and that's the case, it could explain
why the CPU is 100% busy, but top doesn't see any process keeping it
that busy.
You should see the jffs2 gcd and pdflush kernel threads also in top.
(There's a bug about a thing like that in bugs.maemo.org and so far
the reason would seem to be having too much (for jffs2) file system
modifications too often. Unfortunately there's not too much that could
be done to improve that, jffs2 just works like that and there are not
yet good mature enough alternative file systems for flash. Only thing
you can do is reduce writing to the jffs2 root file system, switch off
or do less often automated rss and email fetching, make sure that you
have memory card with enough space when streaming youtube or other
videos so that they are not buffered to internal flash etc.)
so, after some debugging time, I finally found the problem. It were the
desktop applets (homeip and friends). I really liked them a lot because
I like to have different status information (so I had all of them
enabled). But they are kind of evil because:
1) they drain the battery (I never had more than one day standby, now,
after disabling them it's the 3-5 days that it should be)
2) they caused growing CPU load (by running maemo-launcher), I suspect
they executed scripts or sonething to gather their information
3) they caused the device to lock up UI-wise
4) they caused indeterministic reboots (watchdog) of the device
All those problems went away after I disabled the applets. Sad but true.
Thanks a lot for your help!
Best,
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Missing space on MMC2
Hi,
I'm missing about xxxMB os space on the internal MMC card.
df says 936.6 MiB used.
---
Nokia-N810-51-3:~# df -h
FilesystemSize Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mtdblock42.0M 2.0M 0 100% /mnt/initfs
none512.0k100.0k412.0k 20% /mnt/initfs/tmp
/dev/mtdblock4 251.5M203.9M 47.6M 81% /
none512.0k100.0k412.0k 20% /tmp
none 1.0M 20.0k 1004.0k 2% /dev
tmpfs 1.0M 0 1.0M 0% /dev/shm
/dev/mmcblk0p11.9G936.6M979.7M 49% /media/mmc2
/dev/mmcblk1p13.8G 1.0G 2.8G 27% /media/mmc1
---
but there are no files as du says:
---
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# du -sm /media/mmc2
202 /media/mmc2
---
Where are the missing 734.6 MiB? I am suspecting the Map application,
because I moved /media/mmc2/map to /media/mmc1/ in order to doanlowd
more maps. I guess, the US-East map was never freed on mmc2 :-/.
I was trying to unmount mmc2 (to fscheck or reformat) but it seems to be
busy ... lsof shows no open files. Same thing after a reboot:
---
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# umount mmc2
umount: cannot umount /media/mmc2: Device or resource busy
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# lsof|grep mmc2
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media#
---
How can I unmount the internal card? Or does anybody know the problem/a
solution. I don't like thie vfat FS anyway and would like to replace it
with ext3. But is the internal vfat better for SD memory (I hope it's
the SD-friendly version with a scatteres superblock?)?
Thanks and Best,
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Re: Maemo IU locking up
Hi, ext Torsten Hoefler wrote: so, after some debugging time, I finally found the problem. It were the desktop applets (homeip and friends). I really liked them a lot because I like to have different status information (so I had all of them enabled). But they are kind of evil because: 1) they drain the battery (I never had more than one day standby, now, after disabling them it's the 3-5 days that it should be) 2) they caused growing CPU load (by running maemo-launcher), I suspect they executed scripts or sonething to gather their information 3) they caused the device to lock up UI-wise 4) they caused indeterministic reboots (watchdog) of the device All those problems went away after I disabled the applets. Sad but true. Please file bugs for these applications if they have a bug tracker (or just complain at ITT forum if not :-)). You can monitor what the desktop applets do when the desktop should be idle with something like this: strace -p $(pidof hildon-desktop|cut -d' ' -f1) If they process files or run scripts, that should be fairly clear from the strace output. For example if device has anything that constantly wakes up about once a second or more often, that already reduces device use-time to one day even if they wouldn't use network or do anything else besides just waking up. And waking up once a sec doesn't show up in top so you need to use something like strace to see it on processes you suspect of bad behavior. Installing tools like strace is described here: http://maemo.org/development/tools/ You can also install use ltrace, but its library call tracing doesn't work properly for threaded or dlopen() using programs (ltrace -S does the same thing as strace and tracing just system calls doesn't have any issues). - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Missing space on MMC2
Hi, I was trying to unmount mmc2 (to fscheck or reformat) but it seems to be busy ... You can run dosfsck so that it doesn't modify the volume with the -n option. Then you don't need to unmount it to see whether there are issues. lsof shows no open files. Same thing after a reboot: --- Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# umount mmc2 umount: cannot umount /media/mmc2: Device or resource busy Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# lsof|grep mmc2 Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# --- Check also that no process is in disk sleep state: ps|grep D AFAIK it's possible that this happens internally to kernel, but I don't remember whether that was a bug or feature... How can I unmount the internal card? Or does anybody know the problem/a solution. I don't like thie vfat FS anyway and would like to replace it with ext3. But is the internal vfat better for SD memory (I hope it's the SD-friendly version with a scatteres superblock?)? - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Missing space on MMC2
Hi,
I was trying to unmount mmc2 (to fscheck or reformat) but it seems to be
busy ...
You can run dosfsck so that it doesn't modify the volume
with the -n option. Then you don't need to unmount it
to see whether there are issues.
hah, there it is:
--
Nokia-N810-51-3:~# dosfsck -n /dev/mmcblk0p1
dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
alleged total clusters: 490555
4906
9812
14718
19624
24530
29436
34342
39248
44154
49060
Reclaimed 188077 unused clusters (770363392 bytes).
Free cluster summary wrong (250798 vs. really 438875)
Auto-correcting.
checked clusters: 51680
Leaving file system unchanged.
/dev/mmcblk0p1: 257 files, 51680/490555 clusters
---
thanks! Ok, but I still can't unmount it :-/.
lsof shows no open files. Same thing after a reboot:
---
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# umount mmc2
umount: cannot umount /media/mmc2: Device or resource busy
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# lsof|grep mmc2
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media#
---
Check also that no process is in disk sleep state: ps|grep D
no, there isn't:
Nokia-N810-51-3:~# ps|grep D
PID UidVSZ Stat Command
1637 root 1892 RW grep D
AFAIK it's possible that this happens internally to kernel,
but I don't remember whether that was a bug or feature...
hmm, I just rebooted with init 6 (doing reboots with the UI is
sometimes weirdly fast and doesn't seem to do a full reboot).
Hmm, any more ideas? I heard people reporting that they reformatted the
internal SD card ... how does this work if you can't unmount it? Can you
disable mounting it completely? /etc/fstab only lists /media/mmc1 (weird
because this is the external card).
Thanks,
Torsten
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Re: Missing space on MMC2
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Re: Missing space on MMC2
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On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:12:07AM +0200, Frantisek Dufka wrote:
Torsten Hoefler wrote:
I was trying to unmount mmc2 (to fscheck or reformat) but it seems to be
busy ... lsof shows no open files. Same thing after a reboot:
---
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# umount mmc2
umount: cannot umount /media/mmc2: Device or resource busy
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# lsof|grep mmc2
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media#
---
maybe you have swapfile enabled?
# cat /proc/swaps
# swapoff /media/mmc2/.swap
ah, I forgot - that's it! Thanks!
Great - the dosfsck tool doesn't work. It asks me to fix the problem, I
say yes, but it doesn't fix it. Running with -a helped (the input seems
to be broken).
Btw. how can I change the location of the swapfile? It doesn't show up
in /etc/fstab?
Fixed the problem.
Best,
Torsten
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Re: Missing space on MMC2
Hi, ext Torsten Hoefler wrote: [ to the mailing-list admin: please reject my previous mail to the list (was sent from the wrong account) ] On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:12:07AM +0200, Frantisek Dufka wrote: Torsten Hoefler wrote: I was trying to unmount mmc2 (to fscheck or reformat) but it seems to be busy ... lsof shows no open files. Same thing after a reboot: --- Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# umount mmc2 umount: cannot umount /media/mmc2: Device or resource busy Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# lsof|grep mmc2 Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# --- maybe you have swapfile enabled? # cat /proc/swaps # swapoff /media/mmc2/.swap ah, I forgot - that's it! Thanks! Great - the dosfsck tool doesn't work. It asks me to fix the problem, I say yes, but it doesn't fix it. Running with -a helped (the input seems to be broken). Sorry, what means input seems to be broken? Dosfsck needs often to be run several times and it might run out of memory (depending on the FAT content, it may require more RAM than is available on the device). Easiest way is plug in USB cable and fix the card from the desktop though. Btw. how can I change the location of the swapfile? It doesn't show up in /etc/fstab? Fixed the problem. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Missing space on MMC2
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:55:54PM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
Hi,
ext Torsten Hoefler wrote:
[ to the mailing-list admin: please reject my previous mail to the list
(was sent from the wrong account) ]
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:12:07AM +0200, Frantisek Dufka wrote:
Torsten Hoefler wrote:
I was trying to unmount mmc2 (to fscheck or reformat) but it seems to be
busy ... lsof shows no open files. Same thing after a reboot:
---
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# umount mmc2
umount: cannot umount /media/mmc2: Device or resource busy
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# lsof|grep mmc2
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media#
---
maybe you have swapfile enabled?
# cat /proc/swaps
# swapoff /media/mmc2/.swap
ah, I forgot - that's it! Thanks!
Great - the dosfsck tool doesn't work. It asks me to fix the problem, I
say yes, but it doesn't fix it. Running with -a helped (the input seems
to be broken).
Sorry, what means input seems to be broken?
it asked me if I wat to fix it and offered something like:
1) do it
2) don't
It did not change the FS in both cases (i.e., I could enter 1 or 2;
it didn't evaluate the input correctly I guess). Running with -a omits
the question.
Dosfsck needs often to be run several times and it might run out of
memory (depending on the FAT content, it may require more RAM than is
available on the device). Easiest way is plug in USB cable and fix
the card from the desktop though.
nope, it just worked like a charm when I ran it with -a :), i.e.n no
memory problems.
Best,
Torsten
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Re: Missing space on MMC2
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 03:42:25AM -0400, Torsten Hoefler wrote: I'm missing about xxxMB os space on the internal MMC card. df says 936.6 MiB used. --- Nokia-N810-51-3:~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Available Use% Mounted on ... /dev/mmcblk0p11.9G936.6M979.7M 49% /media/mmc2 ... --- but there are no files as du says: --- Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# du -sm /media/mmc2 202 /media/mmc2 --- Where are the missing 734.6 MiB? Filesystem corruption. My N810 completely trashes the contents of the internal 2gb memory card every couple of weeks or so. I don't trust it *at all* any more. Marius Gedminas -- Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Missing space on MMC2
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 02:24:07PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 03:42:25AM -0400, Torsten Hoefler wrote:
I'm missing about xxxMB os space on the internal MMC card.
df says 936.6 MiB used.
---
Nokia-N810-51-3:~# df -h
FilesystemSize Used Available Use% Mounted on
...
/dev/mmcblk0p11.9G936.6M979.7M 49% /media/mmc2
...
---
but there are no files as du says:
---
Nokia-N810-51-3:/media# du -sm /media/mmc2
202 /media/mmc2
---
Where are the missing 734.6 MiB?
Filesystem corruption.
My N810 completely trashes the contents of the internal 2gb memory
card every couple of weeks or so. I don't trust it *at all* any more.
did you try to reformat? I'm kind of worried to do this because another
filesystem might lower the lifetime of the flash-stuff by exhibiting
different write patterns (and since it's soldered in, I don't want to
destroy it faster than necessary). I'm actually even wondering if Nokia
changed something in the vfat implementation or if this is standard vfat
with the superblock in the first device blocks (seems to be very bad for
flash-based memory).
Thanks Best,
Torsten
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Re: Missing space on MMC2
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:18:09AM -0400, Torsten Hoefler wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 02:24:07PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote: My N810 completely trashes the contents of the internal 2gb memory card every couple of weeks or so. I don't trust it *at all* any more. did you try to reformat? That's what I do: reformat the card with the File Manager on the N810, create a new swap file, then don't touch the card. Later I will notice that after a reboot my card is showing complete garbage: http://mg.pov.lt/n810-fs-corruption.png This has happened three or four times since I got my N810. Initially I also had the problem with the FAT partition being a bit larger than the device, but reformatting it with the file manager also recreates the partition table, and it does that correctly. Then I used the internal card to keep my valuable data. Once I started getting filesystem errors, rebooted and discovered that the partition table was overwritten by the contents of a text file. Since then I no longer keep valuable data on the card. I'm kind of worried to do this because another filesystem might lower the lifetime of the flash-stuff by exhibiting different write patterns (and since it's soldered in, I don't want to destroy it faster than necessary). I'm actually even wondering if Nokia changed something in the vfat implementation or if this is standard vfat with the superblock in the first device blocks (seems to be very bad for flash-based memory). I believe there's some balancing going on under the hood. You use JFFS2 on a MTD device on raw flash; SD cards pretend to be a regular block device that does write balancing in the hardware. I believe the N810 has the internals of a SD card soldered on the mainboard. Marius Gedminas -- A witty saying proves nothing. -- Voltaire signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Missing space on MMC2
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:18:09AM -0400, Torsten Hoefler wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 02:24:07PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote: My N810 completely trashes the contents of the internal 2gb memory card every couple of weeks or so. I don't trust it *at all* any more. did you try to reformat? That's what I do: reformat the card with the File Manager on the N810, create a new swap file, then don't touch the card. Later I will notice that after a reboot my card is showing complete garbage: http://mg.pov.lt/n810-fs-corruption.png This has happened three or four times since I got my N810. Initially I also had the problem with the FAT partition being a bit larger than the device, but reformatting it with the file manager also recreates the partition table, and it does that correctly. Then I used the internal card to keep my valuable data. Once I started getting filesystem errors, rebooted and discovered that the partition table was overwritten by the contents of a text file. Since then I no longer keep valuable data on the card. Some reasons why FAT may corrupt: - User disconnects the USB cable without safely unmount (similarly to re-inserting the memory card card, re-connecting the cable doesn't help, device and desktop OSes forget the changes once you disconnect the storage) - Device HW watchdog (not the SW one) rebooting the device Are you sure neither of these have happened? If you're sure, is an external card more reliable? I'm kind of worried to do this because another filesystem might lower the lifetime of the flash-stuff by exhibiting different write patterns (and since it's soldered in, I don't want to destroy it faster than necessary). I'm actually even wondering if Nokia changed something in the vfat implementation or if this is standard vfat with the superblock in the first device blocks (seems to be very bad for flash-based memory). I believe there's some balancing going on under the hood. You use JFFS2 on a MTD device on raw flash; SD cards pretend to be a regular block device that does write balancing in the hardware. I believe the N810 has the internals of a SD card soldered on the mainboard. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Missing space on MMC2
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:18:09AM -0400, Torsten Hoefler wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 02:24:07PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote: My N810 completely trashes the contents of the internal 2gb memory card every couple of weeks or so. I don't trust it *at all* any more. did you try to reformat? That's what I do: reformat the card with the File Manager on the N810, create a new swap file, then don't touch the card. Later I will notice that after a reboot my card is showing complete garbage: http://mg.pov.lt/n810-fs-corruption.png This has happened three or four times since I got my N810. Initially I also had the problem with the FAT partition being a bit larger than the device, but reformatting it with the file manager also recreates the partition table, and it does that correctly. Then I used the internal card to keep my valuable data. Once I started getting filesystem errors, rebooted and discovered that the partition table was overwritten by the contents of a text file. Since then I no longer keep valuable data on the card. I've been running two 8Gb full-size SD cards in my N800 since January and have never had a problem. I do all kinds of file swapping, copying and moving, both within the device itself and between it and my desktop. I've never reformatted them since I got them. I wonder if you're better off formatting them with a desktop in a separate reader, rather than in the device itself? I've been seeing lots of complaints from people who've reformatted their cards, but I haven't seen much of that from people who don't do a lot of formats. I know that the old floppy diskettes always worked better if you left the factory format on them, and tended to have more problems (especially if you tried to use them in a different machine) if you formatted them. I realize that a lot of that was due to physical issues rather than strictly electronic ones, but maybe there's something else going on with the common VFAT implementation that is causing conflicts with the internal logic of the cards. By the way, I've only ever had one memory card fail in any device (a CompactFlash), and now that I think about it I believe it was the only one that I've ever actually reformatted. When I want to empty a card, I delete the files rather than doing a format. If you think about it, that's a lot less stressful for the card, since a delete only changes a few bytes per file, whereas a format does a lot more writing, even if it's a quick format. I don't even want to think about what may happen if you try to use one of the file wiping utilities on a flash card. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Missing space on MMC2
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 05:38:40PM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: ext Marius Gedminas wrote: That's what I do: reformat the card with the File Manager on the N810, create a new swap file, then don't touch the card. Later I will notice that after a reboot my card is showing complete garbage: http://mg.pov.lt/n810-fs-corruption.png This has happened three or four times since I got my N810. Initially I also had the problem with the FAT partition being a bit larger than the device, but reformatting it with the file manager also recreates the partition table, and it does that correctly. Then I used the internal card to keep my valuable data. Once I started getting filesystem errors, rebooted and discovered that the partition table was overwritten by the contents of a text file. Since then I no longer keep valuable data on the card. Some reasons why FAT may corrupt: - User disconnects the USB cable without safely unmount (similarly to re-inserting the memory card card, re-connecting the cable doesn't help, device and desktop OSes forget the changes once you disconnect the storage) (1) I almost never use USB for transferring data. (2) When I do, I always eject the card. (3) You can't access the internal card over USB when you've got an active swap partition. - Device HW watchdog (not the SW one) rebooting the device This may have happened, but how exactly can a HW watchdog reboot scribble random data all over the partition table and/or root directory? I'd understand if the FAT weren't completely updated and I'd get cross-linked files or missing free space, but complete garbate in the root dir? Are you sure neither of these have happened? Watchdog resets have happened occasionally. And I usually notice FS corruption after one of those. Still, that doesn't explain the other experiments I did earlier. I created a 1.7 GB partition (to be really really sure I'm not accidentally trying to make the filesystem larger than the device), formatted it as VFAT and created a single large empty file (dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/mmc2/bigfile), and that caused vfat errors in dmesg and, at least once, caused the *partition table* to get overwritten with zeroes. See this (short) thread: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2008-March/020492.html If you're sure, is an external card more reliable? Yes. I haven't ever seen FS corruption on the external card, and I hadn't seen FS corruption on either of the two cards in my old N800. (Although one SD card died *completely* while in the external slot of the N800. So completely that it spews USB errors and is invisible in any SD reader I've tried.) Marius Gedminas -- Jim's Three Laws of Engineering: 1. F = ma 2. You can't solve a problem unless you know the answer 3. You can't push a rope signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
GPE calendar sync?
Hi! Just upgraded from a N770 to a N800, and are now trying to get gpe calendar to sync to evolution on a ubuntu laptop. On the laptop I have multisync 0.90, opensync 0.22, inlcuding the libopensync-gpe, and on the N800 the gpesyncd. I run gpe-calendar once, with an empty calendar on N800. Then I close gpe-calendar, run multisync on the laptop. It connects and reports that changes are sent to, and received on the N800, and then multisync reports that the sync was successful. However, from this point on gpe-calendar often reports that the database is locked. After several reboots of the N800, it sometimes works again. Anyone got ideas on this? Magnus Larsson ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE calendar sync?
Magnus Larsson wrote: Hi! Just upgraded from a N770 to a N800, and are now trying to get gpe calendar to sync to evolution on a ubuntu laptop. On the laptop I have multisync 0.90, opensync 0.22, inlcuding the libopensync-gpe, and on the N800 the gpesyncd. I run gpe-calendar once, with an empty calendar on N800. Then I close gpe-calendar, run multisync on the laptop. It connects and reports that changes are sent to, and received on the N800, and then multisync reports that the sync was successful. However, from this point on gpe-calendar often reports that the database is locked. After several reboots of the N800, it sometimes works again. Anyone got ideas on this? Can Evolution sync with Google Calendar? I use GC to sync my N800 with Thunderbird Lightning. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE calendar sync?
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Magnus Larsson wrote: Just upgraded from a N770 to a N800, and are now trying to get gpe calendar to sync to evolution on a ubuntu laptop. On the laptop I have multisync 0.90, opensync 0.22, inlcuding the libopensync-gpe, and on the N800 the gpesyncd. I came across this while looking for a SyncML client for my Chinook tablet. http://www.cleardefinition.com/page/Sync_Evolution_and_GPE_on_N800/ perhaps that will help you? I am not trying to sync that. I have GPEcal and Google Calendar syncing perfectly with Ermining. However, never one to be satisfied, I was looking at using ScheduleWorld to sync everything (ermining just does cal). I believe that all I would need is a SyncML client, point it to the GPE databases, and then point it to the resources at ScheduleWorld. No luck so far. hope that helps, Kevin -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE calendar sync?
James Knott Can Evolution sync with Google Calendar? I use GC to sync my N800 with Thunderbird Lightning. Yes -- Evolution Calendar can sync to Google Calendar -- at least the version I've got on Ubuntu 8.x does. As I recall, you copy and paste either the ical or html link in the settings page for the calendar in GC into Evolution Calendar's new calendar setup procedure. Also, there's a separate addon required in Thunderbird to get Google Calendar to work properly in Lighting. Lighting GC Fine print -- if something happens to one of the Google Calendar's you're linking to, you can end up in some sort of almost infinite loop of asking for login info for your Google Calendar when you load Thurderbird. TB keeps trying to log in to get the lastest GC calendar info and GC doesn't let you log in. It's happened to me a couple times in the last couple weeks -- kind of a pain. It possibly some sort of GC beta issue. To get out of it, click on the mail icon and TB may bypass the calendar login problem.Then go into the Calendar and uncheck the corrupted GCs. Or at least that's what worked for me earlier this week. What program do you use to sync your n800 with GC? I've installed GPE in my 800 and couldn't find anywhere to sync with GC. Claws Mail's calendar doesn't seem to have a GC link feature either. -- Always, Dr Fred C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE calendar sync?
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 07:04:20PM -0700, Lake Stevens Dental wrote: What program do you use to sync your n800 with GC? I've installed GPE in my 800 and couldn't find anywhere to sync with GC. Claws Mail's calendar doesn't seem to have a GC link feature either. I use Ermining. It works perfectly. there was a post to this list a couple emonths ago regarding two different ways to sync gCal with GPE on the tablet. I chose to go the Ermining route. It was easy to setup and I am syncing multiple calendars (mine and friends I have added to my gCal) without any problems. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Lock, sleep, power-down
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:26:31AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: and it spent the day in my shoulder bag, and when I unlocked it near bedtime to read for a little while (not having touched it since I took it off the charger in the morning), the battery was down to 3 days standby, 1 hour active. That's not normal. And relating to the ongoing integration -- possibly I'm seeing drastically shortened battery life from having both wifi and bluetooth enabled. Since they're alternative connection profiles I think it should only use one at a time, but maybe it doesn't. No: I have both bluetooth and wifi enabled (and autoconnecting to any known access points). My tablet is normally not discoverable over Bluetooth, for security-by-obscurity purposes. The battery life is normal: if I don't use it the whole day, it still shows 100% in the applet. Good. Mine is apparently somehow aberrant. So the question now is hardware or software. I'm voting for software. I see ke-recv occupying 50% of cpu and 25% of memory when nothing is happening (it's connected to local wifi, no web browser open) and hald-addon-something occupying 50% of memory. And everything I try to do is terribly slow. Even after what I think of as a reboot, though I'm not sure which options *really* are equivalent to what. Software is a good answer, in that I can conceivably fix this myself somehow. Someday. I've heard that there are some wifi accesspoints that don't support power savings properly, and make the tablet use much more power when connected. When I'm at work, I'm not connected to Wif. -- David Dyer-Bennet, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Lock, sleep, power-down
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:26:31AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: And relating to the ongoing integration -- possibly I'm seeing drastically shortened battery life from having both wifi and bluetooth enabled. Since they're alternative connection profiles I think it should only use one at a time, but maybe it doesn't. Sounds to me like you may be assuming that network connectivity is Bluetooth's only function... What about getting online via wifi while using a Bluetooth keyboard? It would really suck if turning on your keyboard made the internet connection drop and vice-versa. I'm not forgetting it (and in fact I have a bluetooth keyboard bought primarily for use with the N800), just, it's not part of the current problem. -- David Dyer-Bennet, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Lock, sleep, power-down
Andrew Daviel wrote: I hadn't realized that the AP is part of the power-saving scheme; there is a power-save option on the tablet under advanced/other in the connection manager. If unchecked, battery life drops from 100 hours to 7 hours on my APs (Dlink at home, Proxim at work). I tried setting the WiFi to 10mW but it didn't make much difference. In Os2008 I find no such option. In fact I find no advanced option anywhere. Be more specific? However, with bluetooth and wifi turned off and nothing but one xterm (running top) open, I see a load average of 4.4 consistently, with ke-recv, dbus-daemon, and hald being among the processes most often receiving processor time. Something's wrong here, right? -- David Dyer-Bennet, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
