Re: [Fwd: XOHM is Live in Baltimore]

2008-09-29 Thread Matt Emson
John Holmblad wrote:
> This makes me wonder if Nokia is hedging its bets on the success of WIMAX/
>   

Had a meeting with a provider of microwave based internet last week. He 
mentioned they were involved in the rollout of WiMax in the UK. 
Unfortunately, he also made it sound like it was unlikely to be 
available before 2010. By then the N810 will be old technology.

I guess, "I wouldn't hold my breath" would be the turn of phrase I'd 
use. Outside of the US, the spectrum used by WiMax is often highly 
regulated. I'm not sure of other European countries, but the UK is 
having some kind of auction at some point (or maybe had one?) but either 
way, it's not something that looks likely to happen within the lifetime 
of the N810.

M

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Re: N800 RIP?

2008-09-29 Thread Matt Emson
Martin Grimme wrote:
> 2008/9/26, Jeffrey Barish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   
>>  The N800 was
>> manufactured in Korea.  Anyone know by what company?
>> 
>
> Not all units were manufactured in Korea. The units sold in Europe
> were manufactured in Finland (at least mine was). 
>   

Confirmed. Mine is a product of Finland also. If you lift the back and 
look at the sticker mine reads "made in Finland" in English, French and 
Spanish.This is just under the CE mark (I'm guessing non European 
versions don't have/require a CE mark?)

M


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Re: USB keyboard on n800?

2008-09-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:56:10 +0100, Matt Emson wrote:

>> How does it recognise a keyboard, anyway?
> 
> Hardware manufacturer id, device id and device class (e.g. Mass storage,
> input device, etc)

So I suppose there's a faint hope that it doesn't know the particular 
manufacturer or device ID and I just need a table entry ... the hope is 
faint because the keyboard works just fine on other Linux systems, and 
I'd imagine they'd all use the same list of IDs and classes.

I guess the next things to try are an ordinary USB keyboard, and the 
Alphasmart with a powered hub.  The Alphasmart Neo has its own power 
supply -- you can use it to write an entire novel on one set of AAA 
batteries without ever connecting to a computer (so I can't imagine it 
drains much power form anywhere), but I suppose I can't rule out that it 
might take power from the USB as part of a signalling convention to 
determine that it's talking to a host.

> 
>> Does that driver have to be installed specially?
> 
> No, nothing needs to be installed in Chinook and Diablo, it just
> "works".

Too bad. If something did need to be installed, I could install it.

> 
>> -- hendrik
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Re: XOHM is Live in Baltimore

2008-09-29 Thread John Holmblad
Gary,

well,  if your speculation is correct, then that is a missed opportunity 
for Nokia and Sprint because earlier this year I did offer my company's 
services to help them field test the N810 Wimax on their testbed network.

 I am also well aware that Sprint has faced big financial challenges in 
the period since the Sprint-Nextel merger which may have limited their 
options to hire outside talent to help them out on this project.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

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Gary wrote:
> Their USB device isn't available yet either -- nor are laptops with
> WiMAX chipsets. It could be something as simple as Sprint Nextel not
> having resources yet to support more than the two devices they're
> launching in their test-bed city. So I wouldn't jump to any conclusions
> just yet re Nokia et al... q.v.
> http://www.xohm.com/en_US/shop/service-options/pick-two.html
>
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Re: XOHM is Live in Baltimore

2008-09-29 Thread Gary
Their USB device isn't available yet either -- nor are laptops with
WiMAX chipsets. It could be something as simple as Sprint Nextel not
having resources yet to support more than the two devices they're
launching in their test-bed city. So I wouldn't jump to any conclusions
just yet re Nokia et al... q.v.
http://www.xohm.com/en_US/shop/service-options/pick-two.html

-Gary
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Re: Another annoyance: bluetooth icon disappears

2008-09-29 Thread Quim Gil


ext Mark wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> ext Mark wrote:
>>> Wonderful... yet another "wontfix" response to usability issues...
>> If I understood this correctly, the enhancement requested that
>> for a set of users who use separate bluetooth keyboard, the
>> pre-installed device software usability would be improved by
>> changing the UI as proposed in the bug.
>>
>> This was replied with:
>> ---
>> However, we have a strong requirement to reduce the amount of permanent
>> Status bar indicators.

That was the answer on May 2007. See
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=971#c30 to know about the
Fremantle implementation. Basically, users will be able to switch BT
on/off after a single tap, without the long way through Control Panel.

The whole status bar UI is being revamped. If there are other bugs filed
relating to it now it's a good time to revisit them.

-- 
Quim Gil
marketing manager, open source
Maemo Software @ Nokia
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Re: N800 RIP?

2008-09-29 Thread Peter Bart
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:20:07 -0700
"Wayne Fiori" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> All early Nokia units tend to be manufactured in Finland.
> --
> =Wayne
> 
> On 9/28/08, Martin Grimme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2008/9/26, Jeffrey Barish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >>  The N800 was
> >> manufactured in Korea.  Anyone know by what company?
> >
> > Not all units were manufactured in Korea. The units sold in Europe
> > were manufactured in Finland (at least mine was). Maybe Nokia
> > produces in Europe for the European market and in Asia for the
> > Asian and American markets.

I had two 770 that I want to say were manufactured in Hungary?
I remember noting that they were made in central Europe for sale in
north america.

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Re: [Fwd: XOHM is Live in Baltimore]

2008-09-29 Thread atmasphere
it does seem pretty weak though launch with only a pc card... With or
without Nokia.  Too bad the wimax tablet did not make it in for launch
... Not like there not enough delays with the network to allow for
further testing .

On 9/29/08, John Holmblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matt,
>
> Wimax will find success as a fixed line replacement technology in those
> geographic areas that are not well served by the broadband wireline
> service providers.
>
> Whether it succeeds as a mobile technology depends upon many factors
> including the speed with which the world's mobile service providers
> deploy 4g/Long Term Evolution (LTE) technology.
>
> As you are probably aware WIMAX and LTE are both "all IP/all the time"
> technologies (aka All IP Network or AIPN) and the ITU has agreed to
> include IEEE 802.16e (the version of WIMAX that supports mobility) in
> its portfolio of standards for 4g,^1
>
>
> What surprises me about the non-availability of the N80 Wimax edition
> for today's XOHM launch is that Nokia is once again missing the
> leadership boat by not having a 4g product available for sale on the
> several times delayed launch date for the XOHM service.
>
> A cynic might assert that Nokia is bowing to the pressure of Mobile
> Service Operators who are going to be squarely behind, not WIMAX, but
> LTE, which, as a standard, has been championed by Nokia's and
> Nokia-Siemens archirivals Sony-Ericsson and Ericsson. In fact the
> reality may be that the N810 Wimax Edition product is simply not ready
> for prime time.
>
>
> 1. http://ltewatch.blogspot.com/2008/07/itu-approves-new-4g-specs.html
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
> * *
>
> Matt Emson wrote:
>> John Holmblad wrote:
>>> This makes me wonder if Nokia is hedging its bets on the success of
>>> WIMAX/
>>>
>>
>> Had a meeting with a provider of microwave based internet last week.
>> He mentioned they were involved in the rollout of WiMax in the UK.
>> Unfortunately, he also made it sound like it was unlikely to be
>> available before 2010. By then the N810 will be old technology.
>>
>> I guess, "I wouldn't hold my breath" would be the turn of phrase I'd
>> use. Outside of the US, the spectrum used by WiMax is often highly
>> regulated. I'm not sure of other European countries, but the UK is
>> having some kind of auction at some point (or maybe had one?) but
>> either way, it's not something that looks likely to happen within the
>> lifetime of the N810.
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>>
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Re: N800 RIP?

2008-09-29 Thread Wayne Fiori
All early Nokia units tend to be manufactured in Finland.
--
=Wayne

On 9/28/08, Martin Grimme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/9/26, Jeffrey Barish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>  The N800 was
>> manufactured in Korea.  Anyone know by what company?
>
> Not all units were manufactured in Korea. The units sold in Europe
> were manufactured in Finland (at least mine was). Maybe Nokia produces
> in Europe for the European market and in Asia for the Asian and
> American markets.
>
>
> Regards,
> Martin
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Re: [Fwd: XOHM is Live in Baltimore]

2008-09-29 Thread John Holmblad
Matt,

Wimax will find success as a fixed line replacement technology in those 
geographic areas that are not well served by the broadband wireline 
service providers. 

Whether it succeeds as a mobile technology depends upon many factors 
including the speed with which the world's mobile service providers 
deploy 4g/Long Term Evolution (LTE) technology.

As you are probably aware WIMAX and LTE are both "all IP/all the time" 
technologies (aka All IP Network or AIPN) and the ITU has agreed to 
include IEEE 802.16e (the version of WIMAX that supports mobility) in 
its portfolio of standards for 4g,^1


What surprises me about the non-availability of the N80 Wimax edition 
for today's XOHM launch is that Nokia is once again missing the 
leadership boat by not having a 4g product available for sale on the 
several times delayed launch date for the XOHM service.

A cynic might assert that Nokia is bowing to the pressure of Mobile 
Service Operators who are going to be squarely behind, not WIMAX, but 
LTE, which, as a standard, has been championed by Nokia's and 
Nokia-Siemens archirivals Sony-Ericsson and Ericsson. In fact the 
reality may be that the N810 Wimax Edition product is simply not ready 
for prime time.


1. http://ltewatch.blogspot.com/2008/07/itu-approves-new-4g-specs.html


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

* *

Matt Emson wrote:
> John Holmblad wrote:
>> This makes me wonder if Nokia is hedging its bets on the success of 
>> WIMAX/
>>   
>
> Had a meeting with a provider of microwave based internet last week. 
> He mentioned they were involved in the rollout of WiMax in the UK. 
> Unfortunately, he also made it sound like it was unlikely to be 
> available before 2010. By then the N810 will be old technology.
>
> I guess, "I wouldn't hold my breath" would be the turn of phrase I'd 
> use. Outside of the US, the spectrum used by WiMax is often highly 
> regulated. I'm not sure of other European countries, but the UK is 
> having some kind of auction at some point (or maybe had one?) but 
> either way, it's not something that looks likely to happen within the 
> lifetime of the N810.
>
> M
>
>
>
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Re: USB keyboard on n800?

2008-09-29 Thread Mark
On 9/28/08, Matt Emson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > How does it recognise a keyboard, anyway?
>
>
> Hardware manufacturer id, device id and device class (e.g. Mass storage, 
> input device, etc)
>
>
>  > Does that driver have to be installed specially?
>
>
> No, nothing needs to be installed in Chinook and Diablo, it just "works".
>
>
>  > -- hendrik

There's another possibility: maybe your keyboard requires a little
extra juice for the non-standard components inside and the tablet
doesn't supply enough. You might try connecting it through a powered
USB hub to rule that out. I have yet to find a USB memory drive that
will work without a hub. IIRC it gives the same error message when
connected directly to the tablet.

Mark
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Re: N800 RIP?

2008-09-29 Thread Martin Grimme
2008/9/26, Jeffrey Barish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  The N800 was
> manufactured in Korea.  Anyone know by what company?

Not all units were manufactured in Korea. The units sold in Europe
were manufactured in Finland (at least mine was). Maybe Nokia produces
in Europe for the European market and in Asia for the Asian and
American markets.


Regards,
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[Fwd: XOHM is Live in Baltimore]

2008-09-29 Thread John Holmblad
All,

fyi. Today is the formal launch date for Sprint's (soon to be 
Sprint-Clearwire JV) XOHM Wimax service. When I navigated to the www 
page to select devices, although the Nokia Internet Tablet is shown, its 
status is shown as

"Coming Soon"

This makes me wonder if Nokia is hedging its bets on the success of WIMAX/

Here is the url to the www page at the XOHM www site to which I refer:

http://www.xohm.com/en_US/service-guide/

Best Regards,

John Holmblad

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

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