Re: n810 Internal Memory Read Only?

[Peter Bart]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:18:07 -0700
lakestevensdental  wrote:

> I gather you don't have a recent backup/restore option?  There is a
> reason for this utility  :)

Yes there is! And I have several recent backups ;) The problem
is; because Claws isn't the built in client; I can't selectivly
restore just the email files. Because the "other" backup
category also lumps in; for ex; my GPE files which have been
updated since the backup, which the restore would then wipe out
my current GPE files.

> 
> I don't know if this will work, but I kind of vaguely recall having
> something like it happen to me. 
> 
> * Make a backup, include everything. 
> * Try copying the claw files to your external card. 
> * Then delete them on the internal card,
> * then (perhaps after uninstalling and reinstalling?) start Claws to
> see if it works. 
> * If it works, then (shut down Claws) and save a copy of the new
> working folder somewhere (not the same as the old folder -- in case
> the next step messes things up).
> * Copy the appropriate old files back into the working Claws folder.
> If it's one folder that is corrupt, it might mess things up for
> everything, so you might test one folder at a time until your sure it
> works. 
> * Boot Claws and see if it reads your old files.  If it works fine,
> clean up the extra folders.  If it doesn't work, delete the old files
> and restore the new ones and relegate yourself to losing your old
> emails. 

Essentially that's what I did. I've relegated myself to losing
the emails, but I'd like to see if I can learn how to possibly
retrieve them for the day when it's critical.

> 
> Caveat, I think this worked to clear up a problem I had with Claws,
> but can't be sure.  My Claws works now, I can't exactly recall how I
> got pass the problem but this is what I recall.  
>

Mine works well again so in the ends alls well. 
 
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Re: n810 Internal Memory Read Only?

[Peter Bart]

On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 16:02 -0500, William Dowden wrote:
> I have seen problems that sound similar.

Yes, so have I. I remember Eero explained it in another thread so very
well. That saved an old RS MMC card from the recycling bin.

>Certainly if the system thinks the card is still in use, especially
> if it freezes with the files' attributes marked as in use, you will
> not be able to access them unless you use the technique you used. 

Crude as they were, yes.

>How large is your N810's internal memory?My son and I were
> discussing the N800 versus the N810.We currently have N800's with
> 8GB cards both internal and external.Space has not been an issue.

Internal memory; not user removable; is 2gb. File manager reports
1.87gb total size with swap of 128mb enabled on it. Mine reports 128.7mb
used with 1.75gb available. All I have on the internal card is swap and
Claws folders. All my other data files are on an 8gb external sdhc card.
If it helps your discussion, I finally pulled the trigger on a n810 some
months ago and upgraded from an n800. I can't believe I waited so long.
I use it daily, very heavily and it's a huge improvement from the n800.
YMMV

> I suspect that CLAWS may have some temporary files taking up space
> that are usually invisible after the transaction completes normally,
> since they would be deleted and the space released.But if the
> application froze up, then this space would not be released and you
> would be stuck with the technique you used to resolve the issue.
> Does that sound plausible?

That is what I'm thinking/hoping. What usually happens is: I come home
from work, print out what forms I have completed, update my calendar
etc, get my latest emails, etc. Then I usually shut down some apps but I
usually have several still running along with feed circuit which updates
my rss feeds during the night. I let the n810 run on battery until
morning, when I plug it in as I get ready. I'm guessing I had a lot of
feeds update, along with Claws fetching mails every few minutes and the
battery gave out just as swap and Claws was active. I have not yet taken
the time to fsck the old files as suggested, but Claws has happily
created new folders and is working properly as far as I can tell. The
old emails are essentially of no consequence, I'm going to use that
opportunity to learn from my mistakes and try and recover them. It might
come in handy some day.

Best Regards,
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Re: GPE and Pimlico

[Peter Flynn]

lakestevensdental wrote:
> I haven't heard of or tried Pimlico, have heard of and use GPE, 

I too had never heard of Pimlico (apart from the London suburb of the 
same name, and the old Ealing comedy "Passport to Pimlico" :-) but it 
doesn't appear in my Apps list, so presumably there is a repo to add.

However, GPE is working fine for me right now, apart from its 
incompatibility with the LCARS theme (which I posted about before) and 
the fact that it cannot properly handle timezones.

This last one is a close-to-showstopper for anyone who travels a lot: I 
need to be able to put in my flight and set the timezone of the arrival 
time (and the times of my meetings in the destination zone) so that when 
I arrive and change the timezone in the (poor) Clock applet, they all 
show up correctly. This was available even on the otherwise lowly PIM 
apps in my old Sharp Zaurus.

The Clock applet also needs a boost: it can only handle two zones, home 
and away, which is not good.

///Peter
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Re: omweather weirdness

[Peter Flynn]

Peter Flynn wrote:
> Karl Kobel wrote:
>> Tim & Peter,
>>
>> I also had this 'problem'.
>>
>> Check your App-Manager repositories. Make sure the ...Devel repositories 
>> are disabled. There is a 'test only' version in there.
>>
>> Un-install, disable the Devel repository, and reinstall.
> 
> I don't seem to have Devel. Extras-Devel is there so I disabled that.
> Now there is no omweather in the list of installable apps...

Aha. Having installed the "new" upgrades to abiword and a bunch of other 
stuff it just offered me (which are probably downgrades, seeing as I had 
Extras-Devel active), omweather has returned to the list, so I installed 
it and rebooted. It appears on the screen -- yay -- but when I go to add 
the stations-db and the shiny icons, they both fail to download. Maybe 
the server just crashed a few seconds ago...

///Peter
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Re: omweather weirdness

[Peter Flynn]

Karl Kobel wrote:
> Tim & Peter,
> 
> I also had this 'problem'.
> 
> Check your App-Manager repositories. Make sure the ...Devel repositories 
> are disabled. There is a 'test only' version in there.
> 
> Un-install, disable the Devel repository, and reinstall.

I don't seem to have Devel. Extras-Devel is there so I disabled that.
Now there is no omweather in the list of installable apps...

///Peter
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Multi-select

[Peter Flynn]

Just out of curiosity, is there a way to multi-select from a list (eg 
the App Mgr Installable Apps list) using the screen and stylus, or do I 
have to attach my keyboard?

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Re: Wiki Page on Navigation Tools for Maemo

[Christoph Eckert]

Hi,

> have you been able to start GPS w/o running maemo-mapper?

No :) . Try to install and use gpxview to instantiate the GPS subsystem. Then 
start Navit. Works well for me.

Cheers,

ce
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Re: Wiki Page on Navigation Tools for Maemo

[Christoph Eckert]

Hi,

> which guy are you using? internal or gtk? I did not get that working with
> internal.

well, "this depends" :) .

Using the internal GUI, on the map, navigate to a location. Go to the menu, 
action, globe, set as position. Then go back to the map and do the same for 
the destination. Should give you a nice route.

> > Navit looks promising, but it requires some extra coding for the tablets
> > still. Editing the XML file is not "acceptable" for the average user, but
> > this theoretically could be solved by providing an adjusted config file
> > via the nightly builds. However, someone then needs to keep the default
> > and the adjusted config file in sync. Or the nightly build must do some
> > sed magic.
>
> I would think that maintaining a custom xml file is worthwile. Could the
> nightly build script pull one from a server (e.g. maemo wiki)?

IMO this is pretty useless. This would work for a while, until the file format 
changes somehow.

It would be better to prepare the config file for the tablets as much as 
possible and then change a couple of lines during build time. This will break 
one day as well, but could then be fixed much easier as updating/syncing a 
custom config wilf with the main config file.

Cheers,

ce
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Re: omweather weirdness

[Peter Bart]

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:00:04 +0100
Peter Flynn  wrote:

> I've had omweather on-screen ever since I got my N800 and it's been 
> great. There was an update to the stations database the other day,
> and suddenly omweather has vanished from the screen, and it's no
> longer in the applet setup menu.
> 
> So I uninstalled it (and the stations database) and reinstalled both, 
> but I can't find a way to get it back into the applet menu, and when
> I run it standalone, there are no stations to select from.
> 
> Has something happened that I have missed?
> 
FWIW, I'm using an n810 running ITOS 5.2008.43-7. I have
Omweather v 0.21.11, along with the station database v 0.2 and
icons-shiny v 0.2. I remember the app manager telling me some
days ago about an upgrade that I upgraded to. I have had no
trouble with Omweather since.

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