Running older applications under maemo5

2009-12-12 Thread Luis Listas
Hello

I have a few specific questions. Is there any link that explains those?

1) Is it possible to install and run packages built for from older 
versions of tablets under Maemo5? For example, I see a lot of things for 
OS2008 that I would like to try (i.e KOffice, Easy Debian, etc).

2) What should a user expect when trying to install an older version? 
(example: has to correct symlinks, minor errors, major errors and 
problems, etc)

3) What is the recommended way to have access to those packages? 
(configuring apt? Using some scripts? Only rebuilding from source?)

Thanks,

Luis
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Re: New N900 user - Few ideas...

2009-12-12 Thread Timo Pelkonen
Please keep in mind that you just can't take the symbian version and install
it to maemo. If I remember correctly there was no ovi maps for maemo 6
months ago.

And N95 had maps 1.x, N95 was released 2007...


Ossipena

2009/12/11 Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com

 I'm sad Ovi maps is so lacking on the N900 because it works great on
 Symbian.  That's kind of a dealbreaker for me as far as the N900 being a
 usable, main device.  hopefully they're working on it heavily, or hopefully
 we'll see a google maps client soon.

 actually, how well does Google maps work on the browser?  does it know
 location?

 thanks,
 K


 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.comwrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 23:11 -0500, Craig Woodward wrote:
  There are bug trackers for garage projects, but there's none for the
  core (haldon?) and it's shipped apps that I could find.

 See bugs.maemo.org (and feel welcome to search for existing tickets
 first).

  Needing a network on to get Ovi to start up (especially after
  pre-loading maps) makes it almost useless.

 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5337

  And while talking about Ovi, I'm disappointed in how lacking it is.

 It's actually Ovi Maps. Ovi has several meanings in the Nokia
 world...

  No turn by turn, no spoken instructions (despite me downloading maps
  and voice files), no ability to save points or use saved points as
  route-to addresses.

 Feel free to file/check for/vote for enhancement ideas in Brainstorm at
 http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/ .

 andre

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Re: N900 features

2009-12-12 Thread Mark Haury
sebastian maemo wrote:
 Hi everybody:

 One of my clients has recently asked me about the possibility to get a 
 portable computer like my N770... :-)

 I've talked him about the N900, and despite the price of the unlocked 
 device, he has asked me to check whether its features would satisfy 
 his needs...

 I know how N770 works... but I have almost no idea about N900...

 I have read the full specs at the Nokia website 
 http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900/specifications, 
 though I'd like to know whether there's any application that enables a 
 user to open a M$ Office file, (doc or xls type, for example).
 I think that the answer is no, though that wouldn't be a problem if 
 the PDF reader works well enough...


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 Salut,
 Sebas
OpenOffice.org is available for the N8x0 through Easy Debian, but I 
don't know if it will work with the N900 yet.
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/easy-deb-chroot/
Maybe it will be available for the N900 soon?

Mark
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Re: N900 features

2009-12-12 Thread Mark Haury
Peter Flynn wrote:
 sebastian maemo wrote:
   
 Hi everybody:

 One of my clients has recently asked me about the possibility to get a 
 portable computer like my N770... :-)

 I've talked him about the N900, and despite the price of the unlocked 
 device, he has asked me to check whether its features would satisfy his 
 needs...

 I know how N770 works... but I have almost no idea about N900...

 I have read the full specs at the Nokia website 
 http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900/specifications, 
 though I'd like to know whether there's any application that enables a 
 user to open a M$ Office file, (doc or xls type, for example).
 I think that the answer is no, though that wouldn't be a problem if the 
 PDF reader works well enough...
 

 I don't know about the N900, but AbiWord on the N800 has no problem 
 opening .doc and .docx files. And the PDF reader works fine.
Abiword doesn't work for me. I can't get it to open anything other than 
its native proprietary format. I've tried the maemo version, the linux 
version and the Windows version, all with the same results. Maybe your 
experience will be different.

Mark
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Re: can't type numbers in contact phone/cell slots

2009-12-12 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:12, Jeffrey Mark Siskind q...@purdue.edu wrote:
 On the N900, if I click Contacts|All Contacts|New contact click on the entry
 bar for Cell then type blue arrow and a number key nothing happens. I can't
 figure out how to enter a number into any contact phone/cell slot. Is this a
 bug or have I just not figured out how this is supposed to be done?

The developer can mark a field as being numerical; and this is used
for the phone number entry fields through the system.

This means you can type + and 0-9 without having to hold down the blue
shift arrow (indeed, holding down the blue shift arrow will make it
NOT work, as you have found - this makes it go from convenient
shortcut into unobvious and obstructive).

Hope that helps,

Andrew

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where can I get a complete list of UI gestures, keystrokes, etc.

2009-12-12 Thread Jeffrey Mark Siskind
Where can I get complete user documentation for all of the UI gestures,
keystrokes, etc. for the N900?

Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi)
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Re: where can I get a complete list of UI gestures, keystrokes, etc.

2009-12-12 Thread Reggie Suplido
Here: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Shortcuts_and_Gestures

Here's the link to the power search page just in case you need to look
for some more things: http://talk.maemo.org/msearch.php


- Reggie

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Jeffrey Mark Siskind q...@purdue.edu wrote:
 Where can I get complete user documentation for all of the UI gestures,
 keystrokes, etc. for the N900?

    Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi)
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Re: can't type ~ in browser

2009-12-12 Thread Josef Assad
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 07:14:16PM +, Andrew Flegg wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:07, Jeffrey Mark Siskind q...@purdue.edu wrote:
  In the URL entry bar in the Web browser on the N900, I can't type a ~. If I
  type th eblue arrow, Sym the virtual keyboard comes up. I can click on ~ and
  it gets highlighted. But unlike in the X terminal, it doesn't then deexpose 
  and
  enter the ~ in the URL entry bar. Is this a bug or have I just not figured 
  out
  how to do this the intended way?
 
 Tap the ~, press space and then join the ranks of people upset by the
 broken, unobvious, unintuitive and just plain crazy behaviour of the
 character palette.

I can see the point when the special character is necessary as a
modifier to a regular character for languages that need them.

If there's a more straightforward way to accomodate people who need ñ,
ô, ü, etc. then I can't think of it.

 I'd say vote for the bug, but can't find it (perhaps the easiest way
 of finding it would be to raise it again and let Andre mark it as a
 dupe ;-))

Here:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5314



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Re: can't type ~ in browser

2009-12-12 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:33, Josef Assad j...@donassad.com wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 07:14:16PM +, Andrew Flegg wrote:

 Tap the ~, press space and then join the ranks of people upset by the
 broken, unobvious, unintuitive and just plain crazy behaviour of the
 character palette.

 I can see the point when the special character is necessary as a
 modifier to a regular character for languages that need them.

Absolutely. I'm not arguing that there doesn't need to be a way of
composing characters...

 If there's a more straightforward way to accomodate people who need ñ,
 ô, ü, etc. then I can't think of it.

...what I'm arguing is that it doesn't make sense for it to look and
(from a button point-of-view) feel similarly to the other buttons in
the palette; it doesn't make sense for it to be the third row (when
rows 1, 2 and 4 act the same) and that it's unobvious even for people
who are *used* to composing characters.

 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5314

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Re: can't type ~ in browser

2009-12-12 Thread Josef Assad
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 07:48:49PM +, Andrew Flegg wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 19:33, Josef Assad j...@donassad.com wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 07:14:16PM +, Andrew Flegg wrote:
 
 ...what I'm arguing is that it doesn't make sense for it to look and
 (from a button point-of-view) feel similarly to the other buttons in
 the palette; it doesn't make sense for it to be the third row (when
 rows 1, 2 and 4 act the same) and that it's unobvious even for people
 who are *used* to composing characters.
 

I'll say it confused me too, even though I need those modified
characters and am used to deadkeys.

Apart from making the character modifier palette buttons more distinct
(maybe a different button color?) what might have unconfuzzled me
would have been a system notification instructing me to type one more
character, or a space; the thin yellow bar across the top. There's
probably better ideas out there though.

 
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patch to (re)add support for bluetooth keyboards on N900

2009-12-12 Thread Jeffrey Mark Siskind
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6685

has a recent post that contains a patch to xkb-data to (re)add support for
bluetooth keyboards. I would like to apply the patch but to build the patch
you need scratchbox and I don't have scratchbox set up (and don't know how to
set it up). If someone has scratchbox set up, can you build the patch and send
me the resulting .deb to install?

Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi)
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