RE: Java for Maemo 5?

2010-03-20 Thread Gunter Ohrner
Aldon Hynes wrote:
 I finally got a chance to sit down and write up some of my experiences
 and what I did.  You can read it at

 Running Java on an #N900
 http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/4013

I just wanted to add my experiences with Java Embedded and Cambridge 
Labs OpenJDK on the N900 as well as with running J2ME midlets / 
applications using MicroEmulator (http://www.microemu.org/) but I 
somehow hit the wrong key which caused my browser to open a new URL, and 
after pressing back everything I had already entered was gone. :-/

Using extremely smart magic JavaScript for the comment feature which 
destroys a commentors text if he makes a tiny mistake is not really 
optimal, had it been a standard static textarea my text would have 
survied the mistake I made. :-(

Long story short, Sun's Java Embedded runs *much* faster than Cambridge 
Lab's OpenJDK (Which doesn't use a JIT, as far as I understand.) and 
MicroEmu seems to work as well, althought I've not yet tested it 
throughoutly.

Greetings,

  Gunter

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RE: Java for Maemo 5?

2010-03-20 Thread Aldon Hynes
Gunter wrote:
 Aldon Hynes wrote:
 I just wanted to add my experiences with Java Embedded and Cambridge
 Labs OpenJDK on the N900 as well as with running J2ME midlets /
 applications using MicroEmulator (http://www.microemu.org/) but I
 somehow hit the wrong key which caused my browser to open a new URL, and
 after pressing back everything I had already entered was gone. :-/

 Using extremely smart magic JavaScript for the comment feature which
 destroys a commentors text if he makes a tiny mistake is not really
 optimal, had it been a standard static textarea my text would have
 survied the mistake I made. :-(

  Sorry that you had problems with the comment system.  I actually support
two different comment systems, and no matter what, people complain.  One
uses Disqus which is a shared comment system and defaults to funky
JavaScript, which some people dislike.  The other is standard Drupal
comments, but I require registration.  Can't please everyone.

 Long story short, Sun's Java Embedded runs *much* faster than Cambridge
 Lab's OpenJDK (Which doesn't use a JIT, as far as I understand.) and
 MicroEmu seems to work as well, althought I've not yet tested it
 throughoutly.

Anyway, thanks for the comments.  Others have commented on ways to to
automate the 90 day replacement of the Sun Java, concerns about AWT/Swing
appearing in italicson the OpenJDK version etc.  I'm interesting in hearing
more about people's experiences with MicroEmulator.  I haven't tried that
yet.

However, the thing that seems to have gotten a lot of resonance is that
while all of this is probably fine for developers, it really isn't great for
end users and not having Java easily installable on the N900 seems to
relegate it to the realms of a nice developers toy, but limits its potential
in the smartphone market, which is really unfortunate.

Aldon

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Buzz client for Maemo

2010-03-20 Thread Kahlil Johnson
anyone have seen a client for buzz or wave on maemo.

also if there was a way to build a widget.

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RE: Buzz client for Maemo

2010-03-20 Thread Aldon Hynes
For wave, I would encourage you to check out QWaveClient
http://code.google.com/p/qwaveclient

It is still very early code, but I've tested it on my N900 with some luck.
The downside is that QWave Client works with federated wave servers, but not
with the Google Preview Wave server.

For a little more on this, check out my blog post from last December
Programming the Nokia #N900
http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/3876
where I talk a little bit more about compiling QWaveClient for the N900

Other than that, I don't know of any clients other than the browsers which
seem to work fine.  The same applies to Buzz.

For Buzz, there have been requests that Buzz support XMPP.  (As an aside,
Wave's internals are based on XMPP).  Currently Buzz does not support XMPP.
However, Facebook Chat now does, and I've had some great chats with people
on Facebook using the Nokia N900 Conversations client.

Aldon

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 anyone have seen a client for buzz or wave on maemo.

 also if there was a way to build a widget.

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Re: Buzz client for Maemo

2010-03-20 Thread Kahlil Johnson
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Aldon Hynes
aldon.hy...@orient-lodge.com wrote:
 For wave, I would encourage you to check out QWaveClient
 http://code.google.com/p/qwaveclient

 It is still very early code, but I've tested it on my N900 with some luck.
 The downside is that QWave Client works with federated wave servers, but not
 with the Google Preview Wave server.

 For a little more on this, check out my blog post from last December
 Programming the Nokia #N900
 http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/3876
 where I talk a little bit more about compiling QWaveClient for the N900

 Other than that, I don't know of any clients other than the browsers which
 seem to work fine.  The same applies to Buzz.

Sounds great, althought for most of the BUZZ even if they don't
support XMPP being able to buzz should be rather simple. Acording to
the buzz api this consist on google standard technology
http://code.google.com/apis/buzz/documentation/#connect

According to the documentation:
Over the next several months Google Buzz will introduce an API for
developers, including full/read write support for posts with the Atom
Publishing Protocol, rich activity notification with Activity Streams,
delegated authorization with OAuth, federated comments and activities
with Salmon, distributed profile and contact information with
WebFinger, and much, much more.

 For Buzz, there have been requests that Buzz support XMPP.  (As an aside,
 Wave's internals are based on XMPP).  Currently Buzz does not support XMPP.
 However, Facebook Chat now does, and I've had some great chats with people
 on Facebook using the Nokia N900 Conversations client.

 Aldon

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 anyone have seen a client for buzz or wave on maemo.

 also if there was a way to build a widget.

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